"I was told there were fires in the Church Street area, near Surrey Street Market. "By the time I drove towards it, I could already see the fires from my windscreen," "There were six or seven people screaming and crying outside, and they looked like they lived at the flats that were burning. The flats were above small independent shops. A man in a white shirt was screaming that a girl was at the window and that she was ready to jump. He ran towards her but riot police had appeared and pulled him back, and they went to her instead.
"As soon as she dropped, the crowds pushed back and there was no way to see what happened to her."
I'm about to have to go out into Salford, where trouble's already kicked off tonight, so that I can escort a young lady home. Already had a bloody close call on the drive home. Could get interesting..
Don't be thinking anything foolish like "only criminals will be on there" either. The police are perfectly willing to tell people what you were once arrested for, no matter how wrong that arrest might have been, or comically what you were once accused of, without even mentioning that the person accusing you has a history of lying about such things and there was insufficient evidence to even inform you of the accusation, let alone make an arrest.
What about the civil rights of the millions of people that didn't go out and riot, but are now getting their personal private messages trawled through by a corrupt, incompetent and malicious police force?
Thing is, my small light car is safer than the bigger heavier car it replaced, the two bigger heavier cars I owned before that, the big heavier car before that and the bigger but similar weight car before that.
It's also every bit as safe as a F350. It's far far less likely to crash, far less likely to kill someone else (because it weighs so much less) and (using Euro NCAP ratings for the Ford Ranger as a comparison) it's significantly less likely to kill the occupants if they do have an accident.
So no, fuel economy has not compromised safety. I am seriously stating that having a smaller, lighter car does not mean compromising safety, especially within reasonable tolerances.
Formula 1 cars are not allowed on the streets at all and all the accidents happen on specially designed tracks with only other 600kg cars and tire walls to collide with
May I introduce you to the small principality of Monaco, where they drive Formula 1 cars on the street, and (when it's wet) they drive them by accident into concrete walls at 150mph.
I'm sure there's evidence on Youtube, if you want to see the effects - although because it's twisty streets, the more spectacular crashes occur elsewhere.
A tire blew out and, as luck would have it, we were in semi-tight traffic at speed, and my only choice was to go off the road.
Interesting. You didn't have the choice of, I don't know, just slowing down gradually, before coming to a halt by the side of the road so that you could change your tyre?
I've been in cars that have had tyres blow out. I've had a tyre go from full to empty in under a second while doing close to 100mph. I've yet to see anybody actually have to dramatically swerve off the road and crash.
Cars can actually drive quite fast on three wheels. They don't corner too well, but it doesn't take long to slow down.
It depends on the time of day. During commute times people are good drivers; at weekends and during the day the level of driving skill drops horrendously, even if the number of cars on the road are the same.
The median may be higher, but it's the idiots at the bottom end of the scale that mostly matter, and I don't think our idiots are going to be any better than US ones.
Lose a prototype iPhone: Get into shit at work Lose a USB drive with 800 banking records: Get into shit at work Sell someone else's property: Get investigated for receiving stolen goods, money laundering, etc. Hand in USB drive found in pub to police: Get thanked.
Welcome to the world of contracting, where you charge a high daily rate because you "get things done".
What you don't mention is that you get things done because you ignore all of the regulations, internal policies and procedures and other mechanisms designed to keep companies operating within the law and looking after their customers' data properly.
Sometimes you fuck up and get asked to leave your current contract - but don't worry, there'll be another one available within a week or two.
And contractors wonder why permanent employees hate the overpaid lying cheating bastards.
I personally don't understand the appeal, but I'm deaf enough that pubs are horrendous conversation blackspots for me and I don't buy the "it's fun to get drunk" angle.
Then again, I bought a litre of vodka an hour ago..:)
The UK does appear to drink differently to most other European nations. I personally put it down to the puritans and their fucked up approach to life - by demonising alcohol they influenced the country into a lifestyle that doesn't introduce children to alcohol in a gentle, progressive and controlled way. Instead of kids having a glass of wine with their dinner at the age of ten, they get to see their parents stagger in pissed out of their faces, told they aren't allowed any at all and so learn about alcohol on cheap cider in the company of their friends who are equally incapable of coping with it.
Will you just fuck off and find another website to be a lazy useless cunt on?
If you disagree then engage in constructive discussion. Challenge prejudice, use your own references and see if you can break through the decades of experience people have of police brutality and the consistent constant inability of the police to prosecute their own.
The irony being, I know the flaws in that previous paragraph. I can dig out the references. I can't be arsed. I know of many instances where police officers in the UK have been prosecuted for breaking the law. Two very senior ones are on bail right now.
And yet.. nobody was charged for executing an unarmed Brazilian on the tube. Instead the video evidence was "unavailable". Nobody was charged for killing an unarmed, peaceful, confused newspaper salesman, attacked by the police as he walked home - until multiple people provided video evidence that demonstrated that the police lied multiple times about it, did physically assault him without cause, did not give him the support he needed when he collapsed as a result.
There's too much evidence that the police can't be trusted, so until you can come up with something a damn sight better than Citation fucking Needed will you just fuck off and get out of our conversation. You're not adding any value.
How about.. buying BEA and fucking over the best app server on the market. How about.. buying Sun and fucking over Java and OpenOffice How about.. buying 18 different companies leaving themselves fragmented to hell with internally competing software products that don't interoperate making it impossible to choose what to actually buy from them, leaving you forced to give your money to IBM who aren't a whole lot better but at least have competent salespeople
Trust me, Oracle deserve a hell of a lot of bashing.
You appear to be a member of the "Give me all your money" club, with a stunning inability to comprehend other viewpoints, factor in societal and economic considerations or accept that the effort/cost to create something is under many circumstances completely fucking irrelevant and something many people just don't give a shit about.
If you don't like that, don't put the effort in, and don't try and make money off it. We wont mind.
What sort of fucking idiot compares wired broadband to the home to free wireless access as you're mobile?
Yes, 10Mbps mobile is blistering, especially when it's at no extra cost and doesn't require you to drag a 28 mile long cable behind you connected to your own home.
When downloading offpeak from a server that can handle it, I'm getting sustained 2.1 megabytes/sec on my 20mbps Virgin Media service.
Add in TCP overheads and that's close enough to 100% to keep me very happy with it. Happy enough that I've just upgraded to their 50mbps service..
VM get a lot of things wrong, but where I live they deliver on their broadband promises. That puts them way ahead of every xDSL provider I've ever encountered.
As for "blazing 10 Mbps", where does the author live that he calls that blazing? Malawi?
Where the fuck do you live that you can get substantially better than 10Mbps on a mobile device as you walk around? Let alone for no increase in charge beyond your normal home broadband fee?
I have no issue with people that have Jewish ethnicity. I have no issue with people that are Israeli (and not all of them are Jewish, by ethnicity or religion).
I have major issues with people that practice the Jewish religion.
Unfortunately it's difficult to slag off the theist cunts without being accused of racism, due to the arbitrary linkage between ethnicity and religion.
Does that make me intolerant? No more than in relation to any other religion, and there's nothing bigoted or xenophobic about it at all.
The UK lottery pays out approx. 45-50% if you buy enough tickets.
Buy a million tickets, you win 500k. There's your fucking audit trail, right there.
The losing tickets would be to deflect suspicion that you had 500k of winning tickets without ever losing.
I'll happily admit that buying a winning ticket is a less lossy way of doing it, but has the disadvantage that you have to find someone with a winning ticket to buy from. That doesn't mean the mechanism I suggested wouldn't work - or rather, your interpretation of it was so utterly twattish that you failed to explain why it wouldn't work, because you were so busy trying to a superior cunt explaining why some random scheme wont work when nobody had suggested it in the first place.
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They managed to put 6,000 police on the streets last night, tonight they're hoping for 16,000 and they'll still be outnumbered.
All those police had to come from somewhere. It's not coincidence that other cities in the UK are suffering violence already tonight..
See pics of woman leaping from first floor window
This made me cry, at work.
"I was told there were fires in the Church Street area, near Surrey Street Market.
"By the time I drove towards it, I could already see the fires from my windscreen,"
"There were six or seven people screaming and crying outside, and they looked like they lived at the flats that were burning. The flats were above small independent shops. A man in a white shirt was screaming that a girl was at the window and that she was ready to jump. He ran towards her but riot police had appeared and pulled him back, and they went to her instead.
"As soon as she dropped, the crowds pushed back and there was no way to see what happened to her."
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023874-0D5B629200000578-550_964x639.jpg
I'm about to have to go out into Salford, where trouble's already kicked off tonight, so that I can escort a young lady home. Already had a bloody close call on the drive home. Could get interesting..
Where is the black list that stops people from employing you? This must be one hell of a list
Oh, it is. It even has its own website:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/agencies-public-bodies/crb/
Don't be thinking anything foolish like "only criminals will be on there" either. The police are perfectly willing to tell people what you were once arrested for, no matter how wrong that arrest might have been, or comically what you were once accused of, without even mentioning that the person accusing you has a history of lying about such things and there was insufficient evidence to even inform you of the accusation, let alone make an arrest.
Yeah, it's one hell of a list.
What about the civil rights of the millions of people that didn't go out and riot, but are now getting their personal private messages trawled through by a corrupt, incompetent and malicious police force?
Thing is, my small light car is safer than the bigger heavier car it replaced, the two bigger heavier cars I owned before that, the big heavier car before that and the bigger but similar weight car before that.
It's also every bit as safe as a F350. It's far far less likely to crash, far less likely to kill someone else (because it weighs so much less) and (using Euro NCAP ratings for the Ford Ranger as a comparison) it's significantly less likely to kill the occupants if they do have an accident.
So no, fuel economy has not compromised safety. I am seriously stating that having a smaller, lighter car does not mean compromising safety, especially within reasonable tolerances.
Right. You couldn't slow down because someone was tailgating you, but you could swerve off the road at 70mph.
Do your future passengers a favour and stop driving while you still can.
If you're not going offroad (no matter what you think, you're not)
The biggest irony for me being, that I am, but can't find a small light 4x4 that's road legal, cheap and fuel efficient.
(and no, quad bikes don't count unless you can find one that gives me comfortable protection from the weather)
Formula 1 cars are not allowed on the streets at all and all the accidents happen on specially designed tracks with only other 600kg cars and tire walls to collide with
May I introduce you to the small principality of Monaco, where they drive Formula 1 cars on the street, and (when it's wet) they drive them by accident into concrete walls at 150mph.
I'm sure there's evidence on Youtube, if you want to see the effects - although because it's twisty streets, the more spectacular crashes occur elsewhere.
A tire blew out and, as luck would have it, we were in semi-tight traffic at speed, and my only choice was to go off the road.
Interesting. You didn't have the choice of, I don't know, just slowing down gradually, before coming to a halt by the side of the road so that you could change your tyre?
I've been in cars that have had tyres blow out. I've had a tyre go from full to empty in under a second while doing close to 100mph. I've yet to see anybody actually have to dramatically swerve off the road and crash.
Cars can actually drive quite fast on three wheels. They don't corner too well, but it doesn't take long to slow down.
Except that small light cars _are_ generally built to be reasonably safe.
Shit, my 2 door coupe has eight airbags in it. It has front and rear crumple zones. It has side impact protection built into the structure.
Assumption 2 however does stand, and no, I don't think I'd walk away from the wreck if I drove into a bridge at 100mph.
Fuel economy is however fuck all to do with that.
It depends on the time of day. During commute times people are good drivers; at weekends and during the day the level of driving skill drops horrendously, even if the number of cars on the road are the same.
The median may be higher, but it's the idiots at the bottom end of the scale that mostly matter, and I don't think our idiots are going to be any better than US ones.
Lose a prototype iPhone: Get into shit at work
Lose a USB drive with 800 banking records: Get into shit at work
Sell someone else's property: Get investigated for receiving stolen goods, money laundering, etc.
Hand in USB drive found in pub to police: Get thanked.
I'm not seeing any major issues here.
Welcome to the world of contracting, where you charge a high daily rate because you "get things done".
What you don't mention is that you get things done because you ignore all of the regulations, internal policies and procedures and other mechanisms designed to keep companies operating within the law and looking after their customers' data properly.
Sometimes you fuck up and get asked to leave your current contract - but don't worry, there'll be another one available within a week or two.
And contractors wonder why permanent employees hate the overpaid lying cheating bastards.
A country one. Every generation goes through it.
I personally don't understand the appeal, but I'm deaf enough that pubs are horrendous conversation blackspots for me and I don't buy the "it's fun to get drunk" angle.
Then again, I bought a litre of vodka an hour ago.. :)
The UK does appear to drink differently to most other European nations. I personally put it down to the puritans and their fucked up approach to life - by demonising alcohol they influenced the country into a lifestyle that doesn't introduce children to alcohol in a gentle, progressive and controlled way. Instead of kids having a glass of wine with their dinner at the age of ten, they get to see their parents stagger in pissed out of their faces, told they aren't allowed any at all and so learn about alcohol on cheap cider in the company of their friends who are equally incapable of coping with it.
It's a long and noble tradition, or something :)
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Will you just fuck off and find another website to be a lazy useless cunt on?
If you disagree then engage in constructive discussion. Challenge prejudice, use your own references and see if you can break through the decades of experience people have of police brutality and the consistent constant inability of the police to prosecute their own.
The irony being, I know the flaws in that previous paragraph. I can dig out the references. I can't be arsed. I know of many instances where police officers in the UK have been prosecuted for breaking the law. Two very senior ones are on bail right now.
And yet.. nobody was charged for executing an unarmed Brazilian on the tube. Instead the video evidence was "unavailable". Nobody was charged for killing an unarmed, peaceful, confused newspaper salesman, attacked by the police as he walked home - until multiple people provided video evidence that demonstrated that the police lied multiple times about it, did physically assault him without cause, did not give him the support he needed when he collapsed as a result.
There's too much evidence that the police can't be trusted, so until you can come up with something a damn sight better than Citation fucking Needed will you just fuck off and get out of our conversation. You're not adding any value.
Usual Oracle bashing?
How about.. buying BEA and fucking over the best app server on the market.
How about.. buying Sun and fucking over Java and OpenOffice
How about.. buying 18 different companies leaving themselves fragmented to hell with internally competing software products that don't interoperate making it impossible to choose what to actually buy from them, leaving you forced to give your money to IBM who aren't a whole lot better but at least have competent salespeople
Trust me, Oracle deserve a hell of a lot of bashing.
You appear to be a member of the "Give me all your money" club, with a stunning inability to comprehend other viewpoints, factor in societal and economic considerations or accept that the effort/cost to create something is under many circumstances completely fucking irrelevant and something many people just don't give a shit about.
If you don't like that, don't put the effort in, and don't try and make money off it. We wont mind.
Me either. I'll use my wifi enabled mobile phone.
Much like I do now, but without worrying about getting a 3G signal.
What sort of fucking idiot compares wired broadband to the home to free wireless access as you're mobile?
Yes, 10Mbps mobile is blistering, especially when it's at no extra cost and doesn't require you to drag a 28 mile long cable behind you connected to your own home.
When downloading offpeak from a server that can handle it, I'm getting sustained 2.1 megabytes/sec on my 20mbps Virgin Media service.
Add in TCP overheads and that's close enough to 100% to keep me very happy with it. Happy enough that I've just upgraded to their 50mbps service..
VM get a lot of things wrong, but where I live they deliver on their broadband promises. That puts them way ahead of every xDSL provider I've ever encountered.
As for "blazing 10 Mbps", where does the author live that he calls that blazing? Malawi?
Where the fuck do you live that you can get substantially better than 10Mbps on a mobile device as you walk around? Let alone for no increase in charge beyond your normal home broadband fee?
It does make life complicated though.
I have no issue with people that have Jewish ethnicity. I have no issue with people that are Israeli (and not all of them are Jewish, by ethnicity or religion).
I have major issues with people that practice the Jewish religion.
Unfortunately it's difficult to slag off the theist cunts without being accused of racism, due to the arbitrary linkage between ethnicity and religion.
Does that make me intolerant? No more than in relation to any other religion, and there's nothing bigoted or xenophobic about it at all.
Money laundering: YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
I'm not doing it at all! (As should be pretty apparent ;)
The UK lottery pays out approx. 45-50% if you buy enough tickets.
Buy a million tickets, you win 500k. There's your fucking audit trail, right there.
The losing tickets would be to deflect suspicion that you had 500k of winning tickets without ever losing.
I'll happily admit that buying a winning ticket is a less lossy way of doing it, but has the disadvantage that you have to find someone with a winning ticket to buy from. That doesn't mean the mechanism I suggested wouldn't work - or rather, your interpretation of it was so utterly twattish that you failed to explain why it wouldn't work, because you were so busy trying to a superior cunt explaining why some random scheme wont work when nobody had suggested it in the first place.
But hey, feel free to keep being smug.
Hmm, fair point, well made. I withdraw my objection. :)