While undoubtably people with a sub-100 IQ voted for Trump, equally people with a sub-100 IQ voted against him too.
This does not mean his election victory is because of stupid people.
Now you just go on proving your intelligence.
Are you shitting me? Small uneducated children could counter your arguments, this isn't a sign of intelligence.
You're wasting my time, feel free to reply but don't go expecting me to read it. Hunt down a small child if you want another response that points out the flaws in your argument.
Oh, I am sure you don't want a basic intelligence test to vote, because that would eliminate a few voting blocks that the Democrats actually depend upon.
I think you'll find that stupid people will vote for candidates from both major parties in the US.
We don't need Facebook to be good for democracy, and they certainly shouldn't need to prove that they are.
Even if someone can prove that Facebook is bad for democracy, that should merely inform a debate on whether that even fucking matters.
What does seem to be clear is that social media is fucking terrible for totalitarian states. Assuring those fail is a fine start towards helping democracy succeeds.
Without knowing anything about pjmedia, your comment does reek of racism.
Based on the comment to which you replied, highlighting that advocating painful murder isn't against Facebook policies is relevant to this discussion and fuck all to do with white supremacy.
Well, Steam implemented their curator system and it's led to a wide and varied choice of game recommendations.
Why not offer something similar for news curation? Yes, there'll be a large number of highly partisan curators. But the market will choose whether to stay with those, or to use the people with a more balanced perspective.
If people only want news that matches their views then that's going to happen anyway. What Twitter have done is mandate that, and restricted it to a specific viewpoint.
No, and establishing up front (through relaxed courtesy) that they don't helps remind them of this.
They can "interpret" your act of putting your hand into your pocket as a material threat to their lives, if they choose, and not be punished for killing you in response. Hell, I'm sure they could even claim they thought you were trying to pull a gun out of your nose, if they had to.
Being a mindless thug doesn't make someone superior.
Congratulations, you found isolated incidents that aren't indicative of the broader British population. You fucking hero.
There are more 'minority on minority' hate crimes than 'white british on minority' hate crimes, and just as many 'minority on white british' hate crimes. Again, that's not indicative of the population at large.
I also note that nobody batted an eye when Barak Obama not only made very pro-Brexit comments, but also made it very clear that if Britain elected to vote to leave, then Britain would be put to "the back of the queue" when it came to negotiating a trade deal with the US.
Actually his comments were published and commented on by groups representing both sides in the debate. People wanting to remain in the EU used his comments to suggest that the Leave campaigns were overly optimistic in their "We can trade with other countries" statements, and the Leave campaigners attacked Obama for trying to influence an internal UK decision.
t the government of the day spent literally millions of pounds of Tax-Payers money to fund their part of the campaign, by physically posting their views to every single household in the country via a mail-dropped leaflet
Yeah, I'm still pissed off about that. Although they did at least fuck up the timing of it, any initial benefiit would have worn off by the date of the referendum.
If the UK caves then there is nothing to stop the EU from becoming a totalitarian state - which might sound a bit melodramatic
It is melodramatic. The EU is becoming a totalitarian state anyway. The only question is how long it takes its populace to rise against it.
Reversing the UK's decision to leave the EU will merely accelerate that event.
And if the UK or other countries want to make material improvements, then there is nothing to stop them from putting more effort into stamping out voting fraud, is there? Don't see much on that topic...
The UK does do a lot to minimise voter fraud already. There is still an opportunity to do more, but it's a challenging area. I do worry that some attempts to reduce fraud are being inhibited by the fear of being accused of racism, much as the police in Rotherham failed to protect vulnerable children for the same reason.
Britain ran an empire based on manipulating internal affairs of unsuspecting colonies.
Oh please, don't be stupid. The colonies were pretty fucking aware, what with Britain taking a direct hand in ruling them.
It still uses subtle levers of influence and plausible deniability to set people against each other all the while putting "mother england" on some sort of pedestal.
We call this diplomacy. Everybody does it, but that doesn't stop everybody from also decrying everybody else doing it.
England lives chiefly through its alliances.
England barely legally exists. I think you mean the UK, and I think you'll find the alliances, trade and military projection are intertwined and collectively establish the nation and its position in the world. Much the same as every other country out there.
BBC meddles in internal affairs of former colonies on regular basis under the guise of covering "foreign affairs"
Trust me, the BBC meddles in foreign affairs at nothing like the rate with which it meddles in internal UK ones.
The fact that Russian IT companies are being used by anonymous foreign interests to launder (anonymize) their information campaign is in no way an indication of Russia itself using an influence. Russia simply doesn't have anything to gain from it.
Ah. Now you lose all credibility. Of course Russia benefits from a destabilised and less effective EU. Shit, their whole Ukrainian strategy is driven by their desire not to have a stronger EU right up against their border.
The Brits say a lot that's xenophobic, especially regarding the French, but if you look at their actions there's remarkably little xenophobia going on.
The population of London is down to 45% White British, that doesn't exactly sound to me like foreigners are unwelcome. That sounds to me like the capital of my own country is more foreign than native.
Where are the gangs of Brits roaming the cities across the nation, hunting down foreigners and assaulting them? They don't exist. Where are the managers and company owners refusing to hire foreign workers? They don't exist. Where are the people demanding forced repatriation of anybody not born in the UK? They're meeting in small pub rooms, decried by the general population, gaining no traction politically.
While Brits may seem xenophobic it's mainly because we have the confidence to take the piss out of everybody, including ourselves. We're actually one of the most welcoming countries on the planet.
The thing is, I suspect most people that voted to leave the EU don't follow Russian twitter accounts. I voted to leave and I follow no twitter accounts.
Meanwhile there were a large number of British politicians and other public figures speaking very eloquently (and/or talking out of their arse) about leaving the EU. The vote to leave happened because a large number of British people were genuinely unhappy with the state of the country and didn't need Russia or anybody else to tell them that something needed to change.
Had the EU shown even the slightest willingness to change then the vote could easily have turned out differently. That's not Russia's influence.
It's only the fucking idiots that keep telling everybody they're racist that think that.
Perhaps if the country had been able to properly debate the impacts of immigration and bring it under control without being accused of racism then people wouldn't have felt disenfranchised and used their one opportunity to vote against a status quo that didn't recognise or represent their interests.
Plus on this occasion, other than the forced entry there doesn't seem to have been an undue level of force.
I think the police should be responsible for repairs to the property but the arrest itself was legal as per the warrant and while inconvenient was reversed reasonably fast.
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While undoubtably people with a sub-100 IQ voted for Trump, equally people with a sub-100 IQ voted against him too.
This does not mean his election victory is because of stupid people.
Now you just go on proving your intelligence.
Are you shitting me? Small uneducated children could counter your arguments, this isn't a sign of intelligence.
You're wasting my time, feel free to reply but don't go expecting me to read it. Hunt down a small child if you want another response that points out the flaws in your argument.
Wait, are you referring to the election in which 82% of voters supported a party that backs leaving the EU?
You're right, it did turn out differently. Far far greater support than at the referendum.
But keep touting your intellectual superiority.
Hey, I'm not the fuckwit that thinks he's intellectually superior by suggesting that Trump won because stupid people voted for him.
That's you.
Yes, I keep spelling it out in simple terms for you because you've provided no indication you could understand otherwise.
Oh, I am sure you don't want a basic intelligence test to vote, because that would eliminate a few voting blocks that the Democrats actually depend upon.
I think you'll find that stupid people will vote for candidates from both major parties in the US.
We don't need Facebook to be good for democracy, and they certainly shouldn't need to prove that they are.
Even if someone can prove that Facebook is bad for democracy, that should merely inform a debate on whether that even fucking matters.
What does seem to be clear is that social media is fucking terrible for totalitarian states. Assuring those fail is a fine start towards helping democracy succeeds.
People that think Trump won the election because people that voted for him are stupid are revealing their own inability to grasp the actual reasons.
Yes, I'm saying you've just proven your own stupidity.
Without knowing anything about pjmedia, your comment does reek of racism.
Based on the comment to which you replied, highlighting that advocating painful murder isn't against Facebook policies is relevant to this discussion and fuck all to do with white supremacy.
Well, Steam implemented their curator system and it's led to a wide and varied choice of game recommendations.
Why not offer something similar for news curation? Yes, there'll be a large number of highly partisan curators. But the market will choose whether to stay with those, or to use the people with a more balanced perspective.
If people only want news that matches their views then that's going to happen anyway. What Twitter have done is mandate that, and restricted it to a specific viewpoint.
Cops absolutely DO have superiority over you.
No, and establishing up front (through relaxed courtesy) that they don't helps remind them of this.
They can "interpret" your act of putting your hand into your pocket as a material threat to their lives, if they choose, and not be punished for killing you in response. Hell, I'm sure they could even claim they thought you were trying to pull a gun out of your nose, if they had to.
Being a mindless thug doesn't make someone superior.
Collective punishment is bad, do not do it.
Congress didn't vote to open the place. All Obama had to do was order the military not to prevent people leaving, and it was over.
He chose not to do that. I blame him, not Congress. Fuck him, the lying shit.
Well, OK, but please let's be fair. The lyrics I link to, above, are those of the original writer.
The lyrics you link to aren't even the correct fucking song, you nincompoop.
Did you raise an official complaint? Sounds like harassment to me.
Police officer or not, I'd cause them grief over shit like that.
Congratulations, you found isolated incidents that aren't indicative of the broader British population. You fucking hero.
There are more 'minority on minority' hate crimes than 'white british on minority' hate crimes, and just as many 'minority on white british' hate crimes. Again, that's not indicative of the population at large.
Perhaps you could look in the right place? I suspect he refers to the second verse:
https://play.google.com/music/...
Ah, sorry, no. This one:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u...
I also note that nobody batted an eye when Barak Obama not only made very pro-Brexit comments, but also made it very clear that if Britain elected to vote to leave, then Britain would be put to "the back of the queue" when it came to negotiating a trade deal with the US.
Actually his comments were published and commented on by groups representing both sides in the debate. People wanting to remain in the EU used his comments to suggest that the Leave campaigns were overly optimistic in their "We can trade with other countries" statements, and the Leave campaigners attacked Obama for trying to influence an internal UK decision.
t the government of the day spent literally millions of pounds of Tax-Payers money to fund their part of the campaign, by physically posting their views to every single household in the country via a mail-dropped leaflet
Yeah, I'm still pissed off about that. Although they did at least fuck up the timing of it, any initial benefiit would have worn off by the date of the referendum.
If the UK caves then there is nothing to stop the EU from becoming a totalitarian state - which might sound a bit melodramatic
It is melodramatic. The EU is becoming a totalitarian state anyway. The only question is how long it takes its populace to rise against it.
Reversing the UK's decision to leave the EU will merely accelerate that event.
And if the UK or other countries want to make material improvements, then there is nothing to stop them from putting more effort into stamping out voting fraud, is there? Don't see much on that topic...
The UK does do a lot to minimise voter fraud already. There is still an opportunity to do more, but it's a challenging area. I do worry that some attempts to reduce fraud are being inhibited by the fear of being accused of racism, much as the police in Rotherham failed to protect vulnerable children for the same reason.
Britain ran an empire based on manipulating internal affairs of unsuspecting colonies.
Oh please, don't be stupid. The colonies were pretty fucking aware, what with Britain taking a direct hand in ruling them.
It still uses subtle levers of influence and plausible deniability to set people against each other all the while putting "mother england" on some sort of pedestal.
We call this diplomacy. Everybody does it, but that doesn't stop everybody from also decrying everybody else doing it.
England lives chiefly through its alliances.
England barely legally exists. I think you mean the UK, and I think you'll find the alliances, trade and military projection are intertwined and collectively establish the nation and its position in the world. Much the same as every other country out there.
BBC meddles in internal affairs of former colonies on regular basis under the guise of covering "foreign affairs"
Trust me, the BBC meddles in foreign affairs at nothing like the rate with which it meddles in internal UK ones.
The fact that Russian IT companies are being used by anonymous foreign interests to launder (anonymize) their information campaign is in no way an indication of Russia itself using an influence. Russia simply doesn't have anything to gain from it.
Ah. Now you lose all credibility. Of course Russia benefits from a destabilised and less effective EU. Shit, their whole Ukrainian strategy is driven by their desire not to have a stronger EU right up against their border.
Theresa May wasn't Prime Minister in the run-up to the referendum, or indeed for a few days after.
The Brits say a lot that's xenophobic, especially regarding the French, but if you look at their actions there's remarkably little xenophobia going on.
The population of London is down to 45% White British, that doesn't exactly sound to me like foreigners are unwelcome. That sounds to me like the capital of my own country is more foreign than native.
Where are the gangs of Brits roaming the cities across the nation, hunting down foreigners and assaulting them? They don't exist.
Where are the managers and company owners refusing to hire foreign workers? They don't exist.
Where are the people demanding forced repatriation of anybody not born in the UK? They're meeting in small pub rooms, decried by the general population, gaining no traction politically.
While Brits may seem xenophobic it's mainly because we have the confidence to take the piss out of everybody, including ourselves. We're actually one of the most welcoming countries on the planet.
The thing is, I suspect most people that voted to leave the EU don't follow Russian twitter accounts. I voted to leave and I follow no twitter accounts.
Meanwhile there were a large number of British politicians and other public figures speaking very eloquently (and/or talking out of their arse) about leaving the EU. The vote to leave happened because a large number of British people were genuinely unhappy with the state of the country and didn't need Russia or anybody else to tell them that something needed to change.
Had the EU shown even the slightest willingness to change then the vote could easily have turned out differently. That's not Russia's influence.
Brexit is nothing more than the voice of racism
It's only the fucking idiots that keep telling everybody they're racist that think that.
Perhaps if the country had been able to properly debate the impacts of immigration and bring it under control without being accused of racism then people wouldn't have felt disenfranchised and used their one opportunity to vote against a status quo that didn't recognise or represent their interests.
Wait, that was phony stereotype German?
I mean, sure, there was a 'ze' in there, but that was an anomaly in the broader statement.
Germans do it for the fatherland anyway. The whole Eastern front was basically a custody battle.
In the *entire* EU it is illegal to arrest you without proof
Bullshit.
I mean, look at the phrasing. "You are under arrest on suspicion of ..."
No proof required.
Plus on this occasion, other than the forced entry there doesn't seem to have been an undue level of force.
I think the police should be responsible for repairs to the property but the arrest itself was legal as per the warrant and while inconvenient was reversed reasonably fast.
Most small arms is woefully inadequate vs all armor systems
Bollocks.
While I'd much rather be tucked behind thick armour if someone's shooting at me, it's rather better to be not getting shot at.
Armour isn't perfect and can be penetrated.