I would have to say they were excellent, any more documentation and it would not be the simple step by step docs that it is today.
I do not know what the internal dev sturctor of the team is like however that should be easy to see for any one who looks.
The only thing that I would have to say against gentoo is that it is not intergrated enough, yea everything is fast and works nicely and the distro can only be as stable as the software it is based on however the packagers do not think about how their package is going to effect the whole distro, best example, menu entries! There is no way in this day and age I should have to be editing the menu entries for blackbox. Debian has a great solution for this and maybe one of the gentoo people should have a look at bringing it accross.
Here we have things called cheque gaurntee cards and you must use them every time you use a cheque in a store.
The bank issues them and they have set ammounts that are an upper limit that you can write cheques to.
Also if you are with a good bank like rbs they will put your photo on it so there is no doubt the person using the card (which is always a debit/credit card as well) is you.
Another great thing about these is that no matter how much money you have in your account becuause the cheque was presented with a card the bank must pay up on it so it is really useful if you are a poor starving strudent.
However for the wonderful UK this is not enough, I mean ffs having your photo on the card is not enough so they are testing this system out here as well!!
I think on this one that/. might be a little behind the times. SMS has been going for years now and is now a very mature service that has been used for quite a while for these sorts and lots of other applications.
Ok, I don't know what ISP you work for (I have the feeling it may be AOL, don't know why) but why the hell do you not have access to network status.
My ISP Blueyonder (their web page sucks) has excellent tech support staff and they always know when something is wrong with the network, hell, they have messages at the start of the call if it is something major.
My suggestion to anyone using an ISP like this would be to dump them and go with one with decent support, before signing up to a test on their support!
I meant have Linux/UNIX/anything else that can auth against LDAP and then have samba do the same. Then have NT auth against SAMBA.
It is prob my English that is at fault, what can I say, I could code before I could read or write English (and yea, English is my first spoken language)
But couldn't you use GNU/Linux and Samba to do this?
What you could have is everything that can authing against LDAP and then for NT have it authing against Samba and then samba using pam which in turn is using LDAP?
Making plugins that generic would be excellent, there is an Free OSCAR lib so anyone can add that to their client. I wish all of the IM client maintainers could agree on an API, but it is NEVER going to happen.
I still however can't understand why other clients use OSCAR, AOL has been nice enough to provide the TOC servers and the bandwidth for those servers for any 3rd party client wanting to access the AIM service but everyone seems to want to be using OSCAR and then they have the cheek to complain when it stops working.
BTW, just incase anyone was wondering (and you did not guess from my homepage setting) I am the maintainer of Everybuddy, and this standpoint has come from many user discussions relating to EB. EB currently uses TOC and I have never had the sort of problems all of the OSCAR clients are having.
Ok, lets be honest, half way through the question I thought of posting the above, but then I read the whole question, unlike the person above, and decided that would be the totally wrong thing to do.
Think about it dude, he has spent time reading the FAQ's and such, he wants personal stories, so that is what he should get, sadly though, I don't have that many, well not of the type he wants.
I wish people would read the Ask/. before posting, mods, please mod the above (and this if you really want to.
I second the choice of blackbox, it is what I am using at the moment and what I have used on my old hardware as well which was a p166 with 32Mb ram for a long time, I was using that as a devel box for a long time, it has now been retired to a server.
May I also suggest galeon as a browser, it is fast, light and should be ok on that hardware, as long as you are running mot much else.
I am now the maintainer of Everybuddy but it was not always so.
The previous maintainer was a man called Torrey Searle, and he was also one of the people who have helped with GAIM (our projects are very intertwined, I really should write a history some day). The way is worked for us was something like this.
Torrey was like your selfs way too busy to keep up work on the project, I was always working away, reporting bugs and such, as I seemed like the most active devel on the project it must have seemed to him that I was the logical choice. The story goes pritty much the same with GAIM incase anyone was wondering.
However, in your case there are no other active devels, but I am sure that this/. apperence will help with that, then you will be able to choose who will take the project in the direction you want it to go.
Also in my case, Torrey looks in every so often and wakes me up, he has moved a lot closer to me as well (he used to be in the US, he has now moved to Europe, and I live in the UK) so we are planning to meet up some time soon, so I am sure we will have a chat about eb then.
The last thing I would have to say is make sure you get along with this person, it would be very hard if you a few months down the line find you have given 'your baby' to someone who is nothing like you and you don't get along with.
VR did not die, it just took a sideways step, look at 3D graphics these days, I think this is where it all went, not into bring the user into the enviroment.
Then again, I could just be mad, but I think this is where it all went.
I tend to believe a product does not ship until it is finished, I put out beta versions, but a stable version is not going to go out until the product is rock solid stable, yea, we can miss bugs, beta should take care of that, any more we get done asap, on that version, not wait until the next stable version.
Take care - Robert Lazzurs, new Everybuddy maintainer
Resources are not the issue, it is the banner ad's thing prob, or the fact that they just don't want you using OSCAR, they have been very nice in giving us TOC, I think we should say thanks by using TOC and not by saying fsck you and using OSCAR.
Ok, yea, is would be nice if the let us access OSCAR, but they are not, so boopah, they get to, at least they have given us OSCAR which provides us with a way to chat to AIM users, that is a lot more than MSN/Yahoo and ICQ have done.
As for TOC not being powerful enough, eh, it is IM, you can message people and see that people are online/offline/away, what more do you need. That is like complaining that your e-mail server will not let you send HTML e-mail!
As for this being illegal, I am not sure about the US, but he in the UK it would be, you are accessing their servers and using that servers services without consent, that is illegal, yea, they gave us toc to access oscar, we have right to access toc, this does not allow us to access the oscar machine directly though!
Plug time, if you want a chat client that you can rely on and that uses the wonderful open source service, Jabber and that will let you access MSN, Yahoo, ICQ and Zephyr then visit the Everybuddy website.
Take care - Robert Lazzurs - Everybuddy Maintainer
Hmm, this is pritty how my current g/f and I met up......we were on a mailing list with similar interests (rock music) then she phoned me....we chatted for a month or two after that on the phone and the list then she came up to Scotland (she lives in England) in the summer. We hit it off straight away.
That was last summer, we are still going out and we see each other every few weeks, it is not an ideal situation but it is more than worth it for her!
I have to agree on the two above points, the first one about going to meet people at bars never worked out for me, the only people I found at the kind of place I was going only wanted one night stands and I wanted more, it was just not going to work that way.
Also the point on dating geeks is true, well I know I could never stand a geek, I know what the competiton is like between me and my friends, I hate to think what it would be like between me and a geek g/f. My current g/f is an arty person and we get along great because we can discuss each others areas of interests and it is always exciting to learn about something new.
Well, I hope you find the perfect person for you man, and the same goes out to everyone out there, I know I have! (Love you Soph).
Hmm, I think you miss the point if this was to be done as a book.
If this was to be done as a book then the admins would have to do the thinking about what had to be done. It has been done in this form because this shows what the students are thinking and like all good peices of work lets you make up you mind for yourself.
I have left school a few years ago, but my girlfriend is still in school. She is really having a hard time at the moment because of the admins at her school, they are real basterds to her just because she is the only 'mosher' at her school.....this in turn has sent the teachers against her which in turn has made her life more stressful which means she is not doing as well at school as she should be.
What makes this even worse is this is in a private school, which means you have to pay for it, which over here is rare..........she should be getting better support there, not worse.
However seeing this set or articals has made life a bit better for her, I just hope it does not get too bad.
If you think this is a problem for schools we also have the same problems in some uni's over here in the UK!
I have a friend, he was using Linux before he left but now he is totally a windows guy, it is not like he is enjoying using windows, he hates it, but he still loves windows!
I think there has to be some kind of mind bending program going on here!
I totally agree, as one of my non geek friends put it "People use windows for the pretty colors"
It is a sad truth, and I am not saying linux is not as or even more nice as windows (I have E with the aqua theme, that is what I call nice!), however, windows users see it that way
"Not to mention, how could one be computer literate these days and not know life outside of Microsoft."
I wish this was true, but the truth is that many people do not know what linux is, even system admins, it is sad but true, some people just don't care!
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> The install docs are quite lacking
I would have to say they were excellent, any more documentation and it would not be the simple step by step docs that it is today.
I do not know what the internal dev sturctor of the team is like however that should be easy to see for any one who looks.
The only thing that I would have to say against gentoo is that it is not intergrated enough, yea everything is fast and works nicely and the distro can only be as stable as the software it is based on however the packagers do not think about how their package is going to effect the whole distro, best example, menu entries! There is no way in this day and age I should have to be editing the menu entries for blackbox. Debian has a great solution for this and maybe one of the gentoo people should have a look at bringing it accross.
Take care
Here we have things called cheque gaurntee cards and you must use them every time you use a cheque in a store.
:)
The bank issues them and they have set ammounts that are an upper limit that you can write cheques to.
Also if you are with a good bank like rbs they will put your photo on it so there is no doubt the person using the card (which is always a debit/credit card as well) is you.
Another great thing about these is that no matter how much money you have in your account becuause the cheque was presented with a card the bank must pay up on it so it is really useful if you are a poor starving strudent.
However for the wonderful UK this is not enough, I mean ffs having your photo on the card is not enough so they are testing this system out here as well!!
Just my 2 gb pennies
Oh yes Well I know it helped me, to be honest I find it strange when I don't have mod points.
This is why VPN was created so we can all VPN into home and use that connecting to get to hotmail.
You mean for the people in Linux who use GNOME2!
I think on this one that /. might be a little behind the times. SMS has been going for years now and is now a very mature service that has been used for quite a while for these sorts and lots of other applications.
How can this be considered news, this is history.
Ok, I don't know what ISP you work for (I have the feeling it may be AOL, don't know why) but why the hell do you not have access to network status.
My ISP Blueyonder (their web page sucks) has excellent tech support staff and they always know when something is wrong with the network, hell, they have messages at the start of the call if it is something major.
My suggestion to anyone using an ISP like this would be to dump them and go with one with decent support, before signing up to a test on their support!
Take care - RL
No, I think you mis-understand me.
I meant have Linux/UNIX/anything else that can auth against LDAP and then have samba do the same. Then have NT auth against SAMBA.
It is prob my English that is at fault, what can I say, I could code before I could read or write English (and yea, English is my first spoken language)
But couldn't you use GNU/Linux and Samba to do this?
What you could have is everything that can authing against LDAP and then for NT have it authing against Samba and then samba using pam which in turn is using LDAP?
Hope this helps!
Making plugins that generic would be excellent, there is an Free OSCAR lib so anyone can add that to their client. I wish all of the IM client maintainers could agree on an API, but it is NEVER going to happen.
I still however can't understand why other clients use OSCAR, AOL has been nice enough to provide the TOC servers and the bandwidth for those servers for any 3rd party client wanting to access the AIM service but everyone seems to want to be using OSCAR and then they have the cheek to complain when it stops working.
BTW, just incase anyone was wondering (and you did not guess from my homepage setting) I am the maintainer of Everybuddy, and this standpoint has come from many user discussions relating to EB. EB currently uses TOC and I have never had the sort of problems all of the OSCAR clients are having.
Take care all - RL
Ok, lets be honest, half way through the question I thought of posting the above, but then I read the whole question, unlike the person above, and decided that would be the totally wrong thing to do.
/. before posting, mods, please mod the above (and this if you really want to.
Think about it dude, he has spent time reading the FAQ's and such, he wants personal stories, so that is what he should get, sadly though, I don't have that many, well not of the type he wants.
I wish people would read the Ask
Take care - RL
I second the choice of blackbox, it is what I am using at the moment and what I have used on my old hardware as well which was a p166 with 32Mb ram for a long time, I was using that as a devel box for a long time, it has now been retired to a server.
:) Take care - RL
May I also suggest galeon as a browser, it is fast, light and should be ok on that hardware, as long as you are running mot much else.
Good luck
I am now the maintainer of Everybuddy but it was not always so.
/. apperence will help with that, then you will be able to choose who will take the project in the direction you want it to go.
The previous maintainer was a man called Torrey Searle, and he was also one of the people who have helped with GAIM (our projects are very intertwined, I really should write a history some day). The way is worked for us was something like this.
Torrey was like your selfs way too busy to keep up work on the project, I was always working away, reporting bugs and such, as I seemed like the most active devel on the project it must have seemed to him that I was the logical choice. The story goes pritty much the same with GAIM incase anyone was wondering.
However, in your case there are no other active devels, but I am sure that this
Also in my case, Torrey looks in every so often and wakes me up, he has moved a lot closer to me as well (he used to be in the US, he has now moved to Europe, and I live in the UK) so we are planning to meet up some time soon, so I am sure we will have a chat about eb then.
The last thing I would have to say is make sure you get along with this person, it would be very hard if you a few months down the line find you have given 'your baby' to someone who is nothing like you and you don't get along with.
Take care all - Robert Lazzurs
How about thinking about it this way
VR did not die, it just took a sideways step, look at 3D graphics these days, I think this is where it all went, not into bring the user into the enviroment.
Then again, I could just be mad, but I think this is where it all went.
Take care all - Robert Lazzurs
I tend to believe a product does not ship until it is finished, I put out beta versions, but a stable version is not going to go out until the product is rock solid stable, yea, we can miss bugs, beta should take care of that, any more we get done asap, on that version, not wait until the next stable version.
Take care - Robert Lazzurs, new Everybuddy maintainer
Resources are not the issue, it is the banner ad's thing prob, or the fact that they just don't want you using OSCAR, they have been very nice in giving us TOC, I think we should say thanks by using TOC and not by saying fsck you and using OSCAR.
/dev/brain > slashdot
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Take care - Robert Lazzurs, Everybuddy Maintainer
Ok, yea, is would be nice if the let us access OSCAR, but they are not, so boopah, they get to, at least they have given us OSCAR which provides us with a way to chat to AIM users, that is a lot more than MSN/Yahoo and ICQ have done.
As for TOC not being powerful enough, eh, it is IM, you can message people and see that people are online/offline/away, what more do you need. That is like complaining that your e-mail server will not let you send HTML e-mail!
As for this being illegal, I am not sure about the US, but he in the UK it would be, you are accessing their servers and using that servers services without consent, that is illegal, yea, they gave us toc to access oscar, we have right to access toc, this does not allow us to access the oscar machine directly though!
Plug time, if you want a chat client that you can rely on and that uses the wonderful open source service, Jabber and that will let you access MSN, Yahoo, ICQ and Zephyr then visit the Everybuddy website.
Take care - Robert Lazzurs - Everybuddy Maintainer
I suggest a web based interface, most users are not really used to using mail for much, but they are used to using web based forms and the such.
Hmm, this is pritty how my current g/f and I met up......we were on a mailing list with similar interests (rock music) then she phoned me....we chatted for a month or two after that on the phone and the list then she came up to Scotland (she lives in England) in the summer. We hit it off straight away.
That was last summer, we are still going out and we see each other every few weeks, it is not an ideal situation but it is more than worth it for her!
I have to agree on the two above points, the first one about going to meet people at bars never worked out for me, the only people I found at the kind of place I was going only wanted one night stands and I wanted more, it was just not going to work that way.
Also the point on dating geeks is true, well I know I could never stand a geek, I know what the competiton is like between me and my friends, I hate to think what it would be like between me and a geek g/f. My current g/f is an arty person and we get along great because we can discuss each others areas of interests and it is always exciting to learn about something new.
Well, I hope you find the perfect person for you man, and the same goes out to everyone out there, I know I have! (Love you Soph).
Hmm, I think you miss the point if this was to be done as a book.
If this was to be done as a book then the admins would have to do the thinking about what had to be done. It has been done in this form because this shows what the students are thinking and like all good peices of work lets you make up you mind for yourself.
Take care - Rab
I have left school a few years ago, but my girlfriend is still in school. She is really having a hard time at the moment because of the admins at her school, they are real basterds to her just because she is the only 'mosher' at her school.....this in turn has sent the teachers against her which in turn has made her life more stressful which means she is not doing as well at school as she should be.
What makes this even worse is this is in a private school, which means you have to pay for it, which over here is rare..........she should be getting better support there, not worse.
However seeing this set or articals has made life a bit better for her, I just hope it does not get too bad.
Take care - Rab
Just a small sugestion, but ReiserFS on it, it would then have and idiot proof file system :)
If you think this is a problem for schools we also have the same problems in some uni's over here in the UK!
I have a friend, he was using Linux before he left but now he is totally a windows guy, it is not like he is enjoying using windows, he hates it, but he still loves windows!
I think there has to be some kind of mind bending program going on here!
I totally agree, as one of my non geek friends put it "People use windows for the pretty colors"
It is a sad truth, and I am not saying linux is not as or even more nice as windows (I have E with the aqua theme, that is what I call nice!), however, windows users see it that way
"Not to mention, how could one be computer literate these days and not know life outside of Microsoft."
I wish this was true, but the truth is that many people do not know what linux is, even system admins, it is sad but true, some people just don't care!