You are doing it wrong. If you really want to karma-whore properly, you need to start the post with "I know I will probably be modded down for this, but "
"I don't know any way of finding out the dependencies (besides trial and error)"
When you open up the services in Windows and you select one of the services, the tab labeled "Dependencies" will tell you which serives depend on it, and which services it depends on to run. You don't even need to look at any code or scripting to determine dependencies. And the convenience of managing all services from one central console....
"Who knows what half of those listening services actually do and what depends on them."
People that are serious about security and don't want their boxes compromised.... For instance, me. An OS service is an OS service - figuring out *nix services is no easier or harder than figuring out Windows services.
XP SP2 comes with built-in firewall turned on by default, the XP CDs out now are slipstreamed XP2 version. So, to answer your (albeit facetious)question, the firewall is already enabled before you go online to get the rest of the patches. Not bulletproof but better than nothing.
That's right, because this is Slashdot and Microsoft is responsible for 100% of the world's problems. Amazing how some folks have less than 1 degree of separation between a problem of ANY sort and Microsoft...
I did read the article, and that is why I am wondering - how do you go about informing people when you are not sure who or the extent of the data affected? Do they have to inform you of a "maybe" incident if they even suspect something?
When a breach like this happens, is the company legally obligated to inform those who may have had their information compromised?? If so, how the hell do you do that with 45 million people?
"And by the way - what the hell is with labeling the entire tech industry as a bunch of misogynists because of this guy? The internet is anonymous. How do we know this guy isn't a burger flipper somewhere or a school teacher or a lawyer? Just because he's posting on a tech related blog doesn't mean he's some industry insider somewhere venting his sickening Freudian rage toward women or something."
How do we know it is even a male for that matter? How do we know some man hating femenist didn't cook this whole thing up to point out how "violent and psychopathic" men are?? How do we know the blogger didn't post them herself to gain popularity and the "victim" status?? I'm not defending the posts made, but every time someone says "I wish you were dead" it isn't automatically a credible and real death threat...
True to a point, but you never sell 107 million records if the music is utter crap. And I seriously doubt if any of the other bands selling well will be mentioned in the "did they change the very face of music" discussions the Beatles are the cornerstone of. Like you, I don't judge music solely by it's popularity or revenues generated, but in the Beatles case they also have influenced many other bands - something that can hardly be said about the current group of chart toppers.
"Someone please tell me were the issue is?"
You answer your own question (at least it's MY issue with this) - "the tax payer funds spent on this effort"
I don't want to pay for cops investigating people who like/dislike certain political parties/ideas. If they want to revert to a freedomless state, don't expect me to pay for it (or support it)... Why wasn't the Democratic Convention equally investigated? If it had been I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this, but using public money to further political agendas is not okay with me.
Just because it can doesn't mean it has to. Producing CDs is cheap these days - the band I manage gets a barcoded, full color artwork, shrink-wrapped CD for $1 in quantities as few as 2000. Now marketing and promoting is where the big bucks can be spent, but it depends on your target market. You can hire independent marketers/promoters without needing a label - most bands just can't afford the upfront costs involved, so they sign on the dotted line even though they don't want to.
When any other band spends 175 weeks in the number one song position, get back to me. When another "boy band" has 15 number one songs, let me know.
When some other band for THREE weeks has:
The number 1 and 2 top singles.
The number 1 and 2 top E.P.'s
The number 1 and 2 top albums.
please tell me all about it.
When another band has sold 107 million records in the US alone, I'd love to hear about it.
Have you ever tried to give support to a technical newbie who decided to "try Linux out" on a suggestion from one of his geek friends?? I have, and it was hell - much more hell than any of my "Windows people" ever throw at me. As stated in my post, Linux is great if you really like knowing the inner workings of an OS and you like to tinker. But 99% of the people could care less how it works and hate to tinker. Windows (or even OS X) are the more logical choice for such people. Claiming anything else is flamebait as well.
Touché. Wish I had mod points to give you. Maybe the commonwealth of Massachusets can just tell Diebold that doing so would reveal "trade secrets" so they are not going to comply...
"Ever since I told family and friends who needed computer support I won't fix windows and gave them the option of buying a mac or switching to Linux, I'm having much more fun on my days off."
Walking my family through command line installs of libraries and helping them chmod permissions so they can access the files they saved. I love the fact that all my dumbshit realtives are now running Linux, I mean who needs time off on weekends anyways!!! Now when my mom wants to install a new printer, insead of just plugging it in, now we get a 3 hour long session fighting with generic Gimp drivers and it still won't print 100% correctly. And my parents were really stoked that the thousands of dollars they had spent on Windows software was now mostly worthless! Yep, if there is one thing Grandma really loves digging into it's compiling her own Linux kernel - she really just can't get enough of it! All and all I'd say that an OS designed for geeks who really love tinkering with their systems is working out terrific for the average computer illiterate masses...
This is the most unfactual, biased, pulled-out-of-your-ass statement I have read in a while. Do you have anything, ANYTHING at all to back up any of your wild claims? What exactly is "a significant portion of men" - 18%, 46%, 86%?? I hate to tell you, but there are men and women who don't "indulge in a porography habbit" who look at others as objects instead of equals. There are also men and women who look at porn that are completely well adjusted and don't view others as merely objects. Just because YOU have an aversion to something doesn't make it wrong.
The only reason psychiatrists need a MD is because they write prescriptions. Psychology is not really considered a "pseudo-science" unless you are a Scientologist - but I'd say a good rule of thumb is to consider every person that thinks psychology is pseudo-science to be bullshit. Now if you had said "counselor" or "therapist" I may agree with you more - but to be called a "psychologist" you need to go to school for at least 8 years and get an actual degree.
Straw Man - look it up, it's on Wikipedia too man! I never said he was a saint, or that he didn't have ulterior motives. I simply refuted that he only donated Microsoft stocks, as he actually donates cash to charities.
But seeing as you like to answer my questions with unrelated answers, I'll do it for you.
So the thousands of computers he donated to libraries and schools all across the country is actually Microsoft stock?
Nope, as it turns out, they were actually computers, as you pointed out yourself! As a matter of fact, there is such a thing as the Microsoft Educational Discount, where schools and students can buy Microsoft products at a largely discounted rate. At the University where I work, students can buy XP or Office 2003 for well under $100.
How many schools has Sam Walton started??
That would be none. I didn't ask how much he gave away to right-wing conservative charities, or how many foreign kids he tried to brainwash.
Sucks to eat your own words, doesn't it?
Not really, as they were your words, and I didn't eat any of them. I had Thai food for lunch, but thanks for asking.
Really? So the thousands of computers he donated to libraries and schools all across the country is actually Microsoft stock? Won't the kids using them be disappointed when they find out! And those schools he opened, I guess they pay their bills and buy their books with Microsoft stocks, because every store and utility company accepts MS stocks as payment. Your statement is so moronic it's no wonder you posted it anonymously. Do some simple research - yes sometimes stocks are donated (which are turned around and, my god!, sold for cash) but most of the time it is cash donations. I know you think Bill G and MS are evil, but don't try to find evil in every single action he does. If you want to bag on him, there are far better things to do it on than his charity work. How many schools has Sam Walton started??
Yep, and even the 10th richest man in the world is only worth 18 billion, so I doubt he would be able to give away 5. Most billionaires don't have that much liquid cash around. So really if a hypothetical (and it is only hypothetical in this conversation) 5 billion dollar donation was made, I would say the list of potential donors would be around 5 or 6. Wouldn't be too hard to go down that list and figure out who was most likely. (Donation to Muslim mosque - probably oil sheik. Donation of thousands of computers - Gates or Allen) Just because you don't attach your name to something doesn't mean someone else won't. And a dummy LLC isn't going to fool anyone. Give an investigator a few hours (and some bribe money) and you can find out who photocopied their ass at the last company christmas party if you want - greed is an excellent motivator. Now a 5 million dollar donation could probably be made anonymously. And if there are any rich philanthropists reading this, I would totally accept a 5 million dollar donation AND keep your name out of the papers!
Yeah, because if someone makes a 5 billion dollar donation, the list of potential donors is practically limitless. I mean who doesn't have 5 billion to give to charity??? Besides apparently you and Bill Gates... And I think your "anonymous" cover has been blown.
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"Mods, mod this insightful."
You are doing it wrong. If you really want to karma-whore properly, you need to start the post with "I know I will probably be modded down for this, but "
"I don't know any way of finding out the dependencies (besides trial and error)"
When you open up the services in Windows and you select one of the services, the tab labeled "Dependencies" will tell you which serives depend on it, and which services it depends on to run. You don't even need to look at any code or scripting to determine dependencies. And the convenience of managing all services from one central console....
Please mod:Flogging Dead Horse
"Who knows what half of those listening services actually do and what depends on them."
People that are serious about security and don't want their boxes compromised.... For instance, me.
An OS service is an OS service - figuring out *nix services is no easier or harder than figuring out Windows services.
XP SP2 comes with built-in firewall turned on by default, the XP CDs out now are slipstreamed XP2 version. So, to answer your (albeit facetious)question, the firewall is already enabled before you go online to get the rest of the patches. Not bulletproof but better than nothing.
That's right, because this is Slashdot and Microsoft is responsible for 100% of the world's problems. Amazing how some folks have less than 1 degree of separation between a problem of ANY sort and Microsoft...
I did read the article, and that is why I am wondering - how do you go about informing people when you are not sure who or the extent of the data affected? Do they have to inform you of a "maybe" incident if they even suspect something?
When a breach like this happens, is the company legally obligated to inform those who may have had their information compromised?? If so, how the hell do you do that with 45 million people?
"And by the way - what the hell is with labeling the entire tech industry as a bunch of misogynists because of this guy? The internet is anonymous. How do we know this guy isn't a burger flipper somewhere or a school teacher or a lawyer? Just because he's posting on a tech related blog doesn't mean he's some industry insider somewhere venting his sickening Freudian rage toward women or something."
How do we know it is even a male for that matter? How do we know some man hating femenist didn't cook this whole thing up to point out how "violent and psychopathic" men are?? How do we know the blogger didn't post them herself to gain popularity and the "victim" status?? I'm not defending the posts made, but every time someone says "I wish you were dead" it isn't automatically a credible and real death threat...
True to a point, but you never sell 107 million records if the music is utter crap. And I seriously doubt if any of the other bands selling well will be mentioned in the "did they change the very face of music" discussions the Beatles are the cornerstone of. Like you, I don't judge music solely by it's popularity or revenues generated, but in the Beatles case they also have influenced many other bands - something that can hardly be said about the current group of chart toppers.
"Someone please tell me were the issue is?"
You answer your own question (at least it's MY issue with this) -
"the tax payer funds spent on this effort"
I don't want to pay for cops investigating people who like/dislike certain political parties/ideas. If they want to revert to a freedomless state, don't expect me to pay for it (or support it)... Why wasn't the Democratic Convention equally investigated? If it had been I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this, but using public money to further political agendas is not okay with me.
"eComStation preloaded
http://www.curtissystemssoftware.com/preloads.htm "
$1500 for a single core Athalon 3800+, 1GB memory, and 120GB SATA drive and no monitor??
I'll pay the "Microsoft Tax" thank you.
"If we're serious about combating terrorism"
We are not serious about combating terrorism, we are serious about appearing to combat terrorists.
Just because it can doesn't mean it has to. Producing CDs is cheap these days - the band I manage gets a barcoded, full color artwork, shrink-wrapped CD for $1 in quantities as few as 2000. Now marketing and promoting is where the big bucks can be spent, but it depends on your target market. You can hire independent marketers/promoters without needing a label - most bands just can't afford the upfront costs involved, so they sign on the dotted line even though they don't want to.
When any other band spends 175 weeks in the number one song position, get back to me. When another "boy band" has 15 number one songs, let me know. :
When some other band for THREE weeks has
The number 1 and 2 top singles.
The number 1 and 2 top E.P.'s
The number 1 and 2 top albums.
please tell me all about it.
When another band has sold 107 million records in the US alone, I'd love to hear about it.
http://www.jpgr.co.uk/stats_trivia_a.html
And no, I don't think sales number are the only indication of a good band, but you just can't argure with numbers as impressive as that.
Have you ever tried to give support to a technical newbie who decided to "try Linux out" on a suggestion from one of his geek friends?? I have, and it was hell - much more hell than any of my "Windows people" ever throw at me. As stated in my post, Linux is great if you really like knowing the inner workings of an OS and you like to tinker. But 99% of the people could care less how it works and hate to tinker. Windows (or even OS X) are the more logical choice for such people. Claiming anything else is flamebait as well.
"I remember when slashdot was the place to go to get away from the BS."
That didn't happen to be "a long time ago a in a galaxy far, far away", did it?
Touché. Wish I had mod points to give you. Maybe the commonwealth of Massachusets can just tell Diebold that doing so would reveal "trade secrets" so they are not going to comply...
"Ever since I told family and friends who needed computer support I won't fix windows and gave them the option of buying a mac or switching to Linux, I'm having much more fun on my days off."
Walking my family through command line installs of libraries and helping them chmod permissions so they can access the files they saved. I love the fact that all my dumbshit realtives are now running Linux, I mean who needs time off on weekends anyways!!! Now when my mom wants to install a new printer, insead of just plugging it in, now we get a 3 hour long session fighting with generic Gimp drivers and it still won't print 100% correctly. And my parents were really stoked that the thousands of dollars they had spent on Windows software was now mostly worthless! Yep, if there is one thing Grandma really loves digging into it's compiling her own Linux kernel - she really just can't get enough of it! All and all I'd say that an OS designed for geeks who really love tinkering with their systems is working out terrific for the average computer illiterate masses...
This is the most unfactual, biased, pulled-out-of-your-ass statement I have read in a while. Do you have anything, ANYTHING at all to back up any of your wild claims? What exactly is "a significant portion of men" - 18%, 46%, 86%?? I hate to tell you, but there are men and women who don't "indulge in a porography habbit" who look at others as objects instead of equals. There are also men and women who look at porn that are completely well adjusted and don't view others as merely objects. Just because YOU have an aversion to something doesn't make it wrong.
The only reason psychiatrists need a MD is because they write prescriptions. Psychology is not really considered a "pseudo-science" unless you are a Scientologist - but I'd say a good rule of thumb is to consider every person that thinks psychology is pseudo-science to be bullshit. Now if you had said "counselor" or "therapist" I may agree with you more - but to be called a "psychologist" you need to go to school for at least 8 years and get an actual degree.
Straw Man - look it up, it's on Wikipedia too man! I never said he was a saint, or that he didn't have ulterior motives. I simply refuted that he only donated Microsoft stocks, as he actually donates cash to charities.
But seeing as you like to answer my questions with unrelated answers, I'll do it for you.
So the thousands of computers he donated to libraries and schools all across the country is actually Microsoft stock?
Nope, as it turns out, they were actually computers, as you pointed out yourself! As a matter of fact, there is such a thing as the Microsoft Educational Discount, where schools and students can buy Microsoft products at a largely discounted rate. At the University where I work, students can buy XP or Office 2003 for well under $100.
How many schools has Sam Walton started??
That would be none. I didn't ask how much he gave away to right-wing conservative charities, or how many foreign kids he tried to brainwash.
Sucks to eat your own words, doesn't it?
Not really, as they were your words, and I didn't eat any of them. I had Thai food for lunch, but thanks for asking.
Sucks to eat your own fallacy, doesn't it?
Really? So the thousands of computers he donated to libraries and schools all across the country is actually Microsoft stock? Won't the kids using them be disappointed when they find out! And those schools he opened, I guess they pay their bills and buy their books with Microsoft stocks, because every store and utility company accepts MS stocks as payment. Your statement is so moronic it's no wonder you posted it anonymously. Do some simple research - yes sometimes stocks are donated (which are turned around and, my god!, sold for cash) but most of the time it is cash donations. I know you think Bill G and MS are evil, but don't try to find evil in every single action he does. If you want to bag on him, there are far better things to do it on than his charity work. How many schools has Sam Walton started??
Yep, and even the 10th richest man in the world is only worth 18 billion, so I doubt he would be able to give away 5. Most billionaires don't have that much liquid cash around. So really if a hypothetical (and it is only hypothetical in this conversation) 5 billion dollar donation was made, I would say the list of potential donors would be around 5 or 6. Wouldn't be too hard to go down that list and figure out who was most likely. (Donation to Muslim mosque - probably oil sheik. Donation of thousands of computers - Gates or Allen) Just because you don't attach your name to something doesn't mean someone else won't.
And a dummy LLC isn't going to fool anyone. Give an investigator a few hours (and some bribe money) and you can find out who photocopied their ass at the last company christmas party if you want - greed is an excellent motivator. Now a 5 million dollar donation could probably be made anonymously. And if there are any rich philanthropists reading this, I would totally accept a 5 million dollar donation AND keep your name out of the papers!
Yeah, because if someone makes a 5 billion dollar donation, the list of potential donors is practically limitless. I mean who doesn't have 5 billion to give to charity??? Besides apparently you and Bill Gates... And I think your "anonymous" cover has been blown.