Contact the band and tell them to play an all ages show. A lot of the bands that play where I live do this - they play an early all ages show, and a later "drunk" show. Or some shows are 18+ and you get a wristband if you are over 21 so you can drink. Bands make more money at bars because they get a cut of the liqour sales. (Sorry, but kids just don't drink up $40 worth of Coke at all ages shows.) I was once under 21 too and I still managed to make it to at least 5 or more shows a month back then. (Or invest in a fake, like I did, to see 21+ shows)
No, they would actually rather have you come to their shows and buy stuff. That way they get 100% of the profit. I manage bands and talk to musicians all the time. They would rather you illegaly download their music and have you exposed to it - that increases the chance that you will come to see them live, where they can actually make money. Most bands I know don't see CDs as money makers, but as the way to get you to the money maker.
"you get all the music without giving a penny to those selfish artists who have the audacity to record music you like to listen to."
You really don't have an understanding of how the music industry works do you?? The biggest artists on a label are extemely lucky to ever see 10% of the profit form record sales. That's profit, not gross. After all other bills are paid and everyone else gets their cut (managers, promoters, advertisers, pressers, radio station payola, etc.), if there is anything left, it goes to the artist. Typically a "big name" band will make less than 50 cents from every CD sold. If you want to support an artist or band, go see their live shows and buy merch directly from them. Thoses are the two biggest money makers for the actual musicians. If you buy a CD or T-shirt from a band at a show , they will typically make a few dollars - way more than the label selling their CD.
Or I could have just been joking - but let's over analyze it anyways, shall we? Oh, but not right now, because Project Runway is on and after that The Real Wives of Orange County...
"My (inkjet) printers tend to last 2+ years each. Ditto for several other people I know."
Congrats! You've got a very rare gem there - one that sits extremely far out on the right hand end of the bell curve.
"That's an assumption - not a fact."
Nope, that's a fact. I have had at least 5 inkjet printers and they have usually lasted around 1 1/2 years average.
"Which is more economical depends on your print volume and the nature of your printing."
Wow, really? Thanks for the tip. Of course it does. I can only speak from my personal experience on the dozen printers I have had at home, plus the 35 or so printers I have maintained, repaired and replaced over the years at work, both laser and inkjets from high to low end. That YMMV is a given, so I didn't bring it up..
"You tossed out some numbers - I merely actually performed the calculations you implied, and found that the actual answers were quite different than what you assumed."
Big deal TCO for one year, my whole point was the long run costs - how about TCO for the lifetime? Do the math out to 5 or 6 years and see how your injkets do.
"You live in a fools paradise if you think any consumer grade equipment is anything other than disposable."
And you are exactly the kind of sucker customer the inkjet industry depends on.
Out of curiousity, how long have you had it, and what kind of volume printing do you do? I bought my laserjet when I was in school and had to print things out constantly. (Now the wife is in school and it is doing a higher volume again.) The inkjet was just too slow and went though way to much ink. Never had a Samsung - but I have seen a ton of cheap Brother printers die after about a year and a half of moderate usage...
Except I've been using the same Laserjet 4050 for 5 1/2 years - meaning my cost per year in hardware is under $75 so far - and parts are cheap if it breaks (crossing my fingers, but so far good luck) - and I expect to get at least another 3-4 (or more) years from it. At apporoximately 1 toner cartridge at $40 per year - sometimes they last longer depending on my printing volume - it is still less than the 2 - 3 ink refills at $25-$35 I was going through with my old cheap inkjets. And given that most cheap inkjets give out after 1 -2 years of use, (longest I ever got was 2 1/2 years, I had a $89 epson that didn't make it 10 months) you are going to be buying at least 3 - 4 in the same time period. I have had both inkjets and lasers and the lasers are far more economical in the long run. I don't give a rats ass about calculations for tax purposes, I just care about how long the thing will work. Injets are made to be disposable. They want you to just buy their newest model when the old one dies.
I just checked Ebay and used laserjets similar to the model I have (mine is a 4050dn with duplexer and network card) were going for over $100 and up to $300 for refurbed models. How much do you think a 2 year old used inkjet would fetch?
Yeah, I bought a HP Color Laserjet 3500 for about $750 a few years back - and it came with 4 "real" toner cartridges (not the 1/4 capacity "starter" toners that a lot of lasers include with purchase) - 1 black and 3 color - that cost over $500 retail - so really I only paid $250 for the printer... It also came with an external jetdirect controller to make it a real easy network printer.
My general rule of thumb is - the more you spend initially on the printer, the less the consumables usually are. That $80 inkjet will use $100 worth of ink in a year, but my $400 laser printer uses about $40 of toner a year...You can either pay now, or pay later...
Yeah, some condos on Nicollet and 38th were giving away "Free Plasma TV with purchase of condo" - I hope those folks are enjoying their "quality" Daewoo TVs... I can't understand why someone would want to live somewhere that they have neighbors 5 feet away and pay what you could get a decent house for, not to mention the fact that even after your condo is paid off you still have a stupid association fee to pay...
Slashdot Mirror
And for every U2 there are hundreds of bands who make nothing.
"but other than that, it's a big hunk of rock we just haven't put to good use yet."
What do you have against seeing at night time without the use of artificial lighting?
Although the "broken moon" in Thundar the Barbarian was pretty cool.. http://www.thundarr.com/
"Best....Headline...Ever"
If anyone wants your calling info, they can just ask the NSA... (or steal one of their unencrypted, non-password protected laptops...)
Contact the band and tell them to play an all ages show. A lot of the bands that play where I live do this - they play an early all ages show, and a later "drunk" show. Or some shows are 18+ and you get a wristband if you are over 21 so you can drink. Bands make more money at bars because they get a cut of the liqour sales. (Sorry, but kids just don't drink up $40 worth of Coke at all ages shows.) I was once under 21 too and I still managed to make it to at least 5 or more shows a month back then. (Or invest in a fake, like I did, to see 21+ shows)
No, they would actually rather have you come to their shows and buy stuff. That way they get 100% of the profit. I manage bands and talk to musicians all the time. They would rather you illegaly download their music and have you exposed to it - that increases the chance that you will come to see them live, where they can actually make money. Most bands I know don't see CDs as money makers, but as the way to get you to the money maker.
"you get all the music without giving a penny to those selfish artists who have the audacity to record music you like to listen to."
You really don't have an understanding of how the music industry works do you?? The biggest artists on a label are extemely lucky to ever see 10% of the profit form record sales. That's profit, not gross. After all other bills are paid and everyone else gets their cut (managers, promoters, advertisers, pressers, radio station payola, etc.), if there is anything left, it goes to the artist. Typically a "big name" band will make less than 50 cents from every CD sold. If you want to support an artist or band, go see their live shows and buy merch directly from them. Thoses are the two biggest money makers for the actual musicians. If you buy a CD or T-shirt from a band at a show , they will typically make a few dollars - way more than the label selling their CD.
Ok, that makes a little more sense then. Bad headline authors!
Maybe it would just be easier to get another wife...
and the headline never stated this. It says "iTunes v6 FairPlay DRM Cracked". Jeez, most people don't read TFA but come on, at least read TFH.
Wait a second, you mean that Linux was abouve ground at one time??
Or I could have just been joking - but let's over analyze it anyways, shall we? Oh, but not right now, because Project Runway is on and after that The Real Wives of Orange County...
"My (inkjet) printers tend to last 2+ years each. Ditto for several other people I know."
Congrats! You've got a very rare gem there - one that sits extremely far out on the right hand end of the bell curve.
"That's an assumption - not a fact."
Nope, that's a fact. I have had at least 5 inkjet printers and they have usually lasted around 1 1/2 years average.
"Which is more economical depends on your print volume and the nature of your printing."
Wow, really? Thanks for the tip. Of course it does. I can only speak from my personal experience on the dozen printers I have had at home, plus the 35 or so printers I have maintained, repaired and replaced over the years at work, both laser and inkjets from high to low end. That YMMV is a given, so I didn't bring it up..
"You tossed out some numbers - I merely actually performed the calculations you implied, and found that the actual answers were quite different than what you assumed."
Big deal TCO for one year, my whole point was the long run costs - how about TCO for the lifetime? Do the math out to 5 or 6 years and see how your injkets do.
"You live in a fools paradise if you think any consumer grade equipment is anything other than disposable."
And you are exactly the kind of sucker customer the inkjet industry depends on.
Out of curiousity, how long have you had it, and what kind of volume printing do you do? I bought my laserjet when I was in school and had to print things out constantly. (Now the wife is in school and it is doing a higher volume again.) The inkjet was just too slow and went though way to much ink. Never had a Samsung - but I have seen a ton of cheap Brother printers die after about a year and a half of moderate usage...
No, it's okay. I always wear my tinfoil hat whenever I am around the computer or printer. You can never be safe enough brother...
Except I've been using the same Laserjet 4050 for 5 1/2 years - meaning my cost per year in hardware is under $75 so far - and parts are cheap if it breaks (crossing my fingers, but so far good luck) - and I expect to get at least another 3-4 (or more) years from it. At apporoximately 1 toner cartridge at $40 per year - sometimes they last longer depending on my printing volume - it is still less than the 2 - 3 ink refills at $25-$35 I was going through with my old cheap inkjets. And given that most cheap inkjets give out after 1 -2 years of use, (longest I ever got was 2 1/2 years, I had a $89 epson that didn't make it 10 months) you are going to be buying at least 3 - 4 in the same time period. I have had both inkjets and lasers and the lasers are far more economical in the long run. I don't give a rats ass about calculations for tax purposes, I just care about how long the thing will work. Injets are made to be disposable. They want you to just buy their newest model when the old one dies.
I just checked Ebay and used laserjets similar to the model I have (mine is a 4050dn with duplexer and network card) were going for over $100 and up to $300 for refurbed models. How much do you think a 2 year old used inkjet would fetch?
Yeah, I bought a HP Color Laserjet 3500 for about $750 a few years back - and it came with 4 "real" toner cartridges (not the 1/4 capacity "starter" toners that a lot of lasers include with purchase) - 1 black and 3 color - that cost over $500 retail - so really I only paid $250 for the printer... It also came with an external jetdirect controller to make it a real easy network printer.
My general rule of thumb is - the more you spend initially on the printer, the less the consumables usually are. That $80 inkjet will use $100 worth of ink in a year, but my $400 laser printer uses about $40 of toner a year...You can either pay now, or pay later...
I'll let you know in 2012...
"You're allowed to make jokes about senators' computer knowledge (or lack thereof) when you can tell us what "cloture" is - without Googling for it."
Culture for blood clots?
"up, for a mere $200K, you too can have every reality TV program and/or naughty picture at your fingertips"
It would only be worth the $200K if that included the rights to all reality shows - so I could pull the plug on all of them...
Actually, I think blackmail is a much more serious crime...
Yeah, some condos on Nicollet and 38th were giving away "Free Plasma TV with purchase of condo" - I hope those folks are enjoying their "quality" Daewoo TVs... I can't understand why someone would want to live somewhere that they have neighbors 5 feet away and pay what you could get a decent house for, not to mention the fact that even after your condo is paid off you still have a stupid association fee to pay...
Sweet, now all we need is for someone to design a system where everyone downloads but nobody uploads!
Star Wars was never billed as science fiction - it's a space fantasy/serial movie.