It is a veiled challenge which recieved the the desired results.
What do you want your computer to do, expect it to do? Fun, porn, build a business, record music, draft a manifesto, stalk people? Only with such answers could software be suggested.
What can you do with Windows that you can't with a Mac?
What can you do with Linux that you can't with Windows?
What can you do with a Mac...?
Too many questions, instead you need to work on what an analogy is. However I will clarify my meaning.
I love the task of computing more than the instrument of computing, to limit myself to a single instrument of computing could mean I miss the advances in the scope of the task.
"There is something rather disturbing about this analogy. You seem to be suggesting (consciously or not) that you enjoy what you do with people more than you enjoy the people themselves. Are people just tools to you as well? Or did i just take the analogy too far?"
People? I thought we were discussing computing platforms? However, upon reflection some people are indeed tools... but that's far from my former analogy.
"The remarks in the teaser that points to the article have a certain zenophobic tone to them. It has been a long standing tradition of nations to protect certain markets from competition. For examples, America, Inc. has been protecting the auto industry (tarrifs on trucks), farmers and ranchers, and other politically connected businesses from foreign competition. Why should we care if China protects some little segment?"
Who cares really? Given the nature of the Chinese Government I strongly doubt this product was intended to compete with Blackberry. It was intended to supply a platform that they control the encryption and flow of data on. I'm sure Blackberry will never be a popular product in China nor will Redberry be popular for global business.
"Corporate buzz words on the other hand are a pile of smoldering bullshit. touch base? blip on the radar? total cost of ownership? put the ball in their court? mission critical? synergy? bleeding edge? think outside the box? out of the loop?"
Wouldn't any group assigned to converse intelligently regarding a task be adapt to jargonize somewhat? You seem to accept it for one group over another. Perhaps this is the root of your frustration not the suits in management.
"touch base? blip on the radar? total cost of ownership? put the ball in their court? mission critical? synergy? bleeding edge? think outside the box? out of the loop?"
These words while a bit dated do have a place, except for synergy which can get you fired in many cases.
I see the "us vs. them" attitude as the smoldering bullshit that needs to be sidestepped. That and IT staff that say paradigm more than 3 times a week.
"I think Mac users just really like using their computers compared to your average PC user. It is like people who really enjoy their job/career compared people who are just in it for a paycheck. It isn't so much that the people who like their jobs consider it a "lifestyle." They just really like their jobs and accept it as part of who they are. Any why not? If you are spending 8+ hours a day doing something, it really is part of who you are... whether you like it or not."
I agree somewhat with what you say, I also use a Mac in addition to a PC. I do love what I do, much more than what I do it on... To limit my scope to one platform would be like, getting married when there still so many faces to see.
"Or do look at it another way. We "geeks" tend to have something of an (not necessarily erroneous) inflated intellectual opinion of ourselves, especially when compared against our corporate masters. If this is true then we should have little trouble mastering their silly little pidgin and translating the bs into an efficient productive tongue. Pride yourself on being an effective translator. Though its not likely to get you a position at the UN it is something that is needed in today's dysfunctional corporate economy."
How Dilbert, truly this is the flash back thread.
Masters, pidgin, dysfunctional... Those of you often passed over may want to frame this post.
If you think "Corporate speech" is part of advancing in the IT or any other department you need cowboy boots. As a kid I was shown that these things are great for getting thru bull crap.
I almost feel as if I've hit a time warp into the 80's.
Newsflash, corporate speech died around the time we all started to make casual Friday's everyday wear. Every industry has its own terminology and you should be aware of that, but the task of IT is to explain to partnerships or management what they have, what they need, how best to use it and what should be done to protect it, in words that everyone, regardless to technological experience can understand.
To many times I've seen blog catch phrases used to project knowledge that frankly was not there.
"Now you too can be amazed how fast your mac can turn from a sleek machine into a pop up filled zombie email machine."
What else would you expect from a user base that prides themselves on not knowing what a dll is?
"I agree totally. There is a fair share of users out there that almost never use Windows. I, myself, use Linux at home, most of my friends use Linux, BSD or OS X and we use Sun Solaris at school."
Sun Solaris at school."
Regardless to the continent they come from, bank or family they represent, when guests come to our offices they will bring their data or concerns on a windows laptop. Ok, once two and half years ago someone brought in a MAC, but he still used powerpoint.
I find it a bit silly to ignore the economic reality of Windows penetration in the business world.
I've worked with a lot design firms where the artsy crowd insists everything is done only on a Mac and had to lie when I did projects with a Windows box.
What I don't understand about the "I'm Mac only" crowd is how proud they are of being ignorant of an O/S used by 96% of PC users.
But then I see computers as tools not lifestyles...
I'm a Mac user; I currently have a G4, a G5 and an iMac G5. They are all obsolete as they use the IBM processor. The G5 has 2 processors, 3GBs of Ram and gets booted up only for MIDI usage about three times a week. The other two haven't been booted in a few months.
I'm a Windows user; I currently have a HP 64-bit Intel workstation with 3GBs of Ram running XP Pro 64. It is always on as it hosts my productivity software and VPN/RDC link to my office where I manage a Windows network. I'm a bit peeved about the lack of 64-bit support from both MS and people like RIM, but overall I'm happy with the machine. What games I play I do on this box mostly various Silent Hills, Postal2 and Alice as I'm sick twist.
I'm a Linux user; I currently have an IBM A60 and a ThinkPad. The A60 runs Red Hat Enterprise and the ThinkPad runs SuSE. I use the A60 more than the G5 but only use the ThinkPad once a year at SANs classes.
Each computer has its quirks, as does each O\S. None are any more secure than I make them.
However, having twice had Apple turns my investment in their hardware into junk as they hopped toward what they claimed to be inferior processors... I will never again by a MAC
Apple customer service? Is there such a thing? I'm not biased against apple, linux or windows as they all have bad support but...
When I bought a G5 to replace my G4 I hooked my Apple Cinema display to it and the dang thing blew out. It wouldn't work on the G4; it would not work at all. It was under warranty so I called Apple and was informed I voided the warranty when I hooked up the display to the G5. I made a joke and said, "Things like this would never happen with Windows", the tech rep then called me an arsehole. But then this was the SOHO (New York City) store which is actually staffed by silhouettes.
I had another incident with apple support when I was incorporating a few iMac G5s in our reception area, it was a simple matter of interfacing with a windows network and the "support rep" was clueless about the simplest of network protocols and was befuddled at the concept that I would be running PowerPoint presentations on them.
But then perhaps they support iPods very well...
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What do you want your computer to do, expect it to do? Fun, porn, build a business, record music, draft a manifesto, stalk people? Only with such answers could software be suggested.
What can you do with Windows that you can't with a Mac? What can you do with Linux that you can't with Windows? What can you do with a Mac...?
What can you do?
Too many questions, instead you need to work on what an analogy is. However I will clarify my meaning.
I love the task of computing more than the instrument of computing, to limit myself to a single instrument of computing could mean I miss the advances in the scope of the task.
People? I thought we were discussing computing platforms? However, upon reflection some people are indeed tools... but that's far from my former analogy.
Who cares really? Given the nature of the Chinese Government I strongly doubt this product was intended to compete with Blackberry. It was intended to supply a platform that they control the encryption and flow of data on. I'm sure Blackberry will never be a popular product in China nor will Redberry be popular for global business.
Wouldn't any group assigned to converse intelligently regarding a task be adapt to jargonize somewhat? You seem to accept it for one group over another. Perhaps this is the root of your frustration not the suits in management.
"touch base? blip on the radar? total cost of ownership? put the ball in their court? mission critical? synergy? bleeding edge? think outside the box? out of the loop?"
These words while a bit dated do have a place, except for synergy which can get you fired in many cases. I see the "us vs. them" attitude as the smoldering bullshit that needs to be sidestepped. That and IT staff that say paradigm more than 3 times a week.
I agree somewhat with what you say, I also use a Mac in addition to a PC. I do love what I do, much more than what I do it on... To limit my scope to one platform would be like, getting married when there still so many faces to see.
How Dilbert, truly this is the flash back thread.
Masters, pidgin, dysfunctional... Those of you often passed over may want to frame this post.
I almost feel as if I've hit a time warp into the 80's.
Newsflash, corporate speech died around the time we all started to make casual Friday's everyday wear. Every industry has its own terminology and you should be aware of that, but the task of IT is to explain to partnerships or management what they have, what they need, how best to use it and what should be done to protect it, in words that everyone, regardless to technological experience can understand. To many times I've seen blog catch phrases used to project knowledge that frankly was not there.
"Now you too can be amazed how fast your mac can turn from a sleek machine into a pop up filled zombie email machine." What else would you expect from a user base that prides themselves on not knowing what a dll is?
Regardless to the continent they come from, bank or family they represent, when guests come to our offices they will bring their data or concerns on a windows laptop. Ok, once two and half years ago someone brought in a MAC, but he still used powerpoint.
I find it a bit silly to ignore the economic reality of Windows penetration in the business world.
"Windows Free since '93" Living a shamelessly capitalistic life pimping Windows to investment bankers since 92, and I sleep very well at night...
I've worked with a lot design firms where the artsy crowd insists everything is done only on a Mac and had to lie when I did projects with a Windows box. What I don't understand about the "I'm Mac only" crowd is how proud they are of being ignorant of an O/S used by 96% of PC users. But then I see computers as tools not lifestyles...
I'm a Windows user; I currently have a HP 64-bit Intel workstation with 3GBs of Ram running XP Pro 64. It is always on as it hosts my productivity software and VPN/RDC link to my office where I manage a Windows network. I'm a bit peeved about the lack of 64-bit support from both MS and people like RIM, but overall I'm happy with the machine. What games I play I do on this box mostly various Silent Hills, Postal2 and Alice as I'm sick twist.
I'm a Linux user; I currently have an IBM A60 and a ThinkPad. The A60 runs Red Hat Enterprise and the ThinkPad runs SuSE. I use the A60 more than the G5 but only use the ThinkPad once a year at SANs classes.
Each computer has its quirks, as does each O\S. None are any more secure than I make them.
However, having twice had Apple turns my investment in their hardware into junk as they hopped toward what they claimed to be inferior processors... I will never again by a MAC
Apple customer service? Is there such a thing? I'm not biased against apple, linux or windows as they all have bad support but... When I bought a G5 to replace my G4 I hooked my Apple Cinema display to it and the dang thing blew out. It wouldn't work on the G4; it would not work at all. It was under warranty so I called Apple and was informed I voided the warranty when I hooked up the display to the G5. I made a joke and said, "Things like this would never happen with Windows", the tech rep then called me an arsehole. But then this was the SOHO (New York City) store which is actually staffed by silhouettes. I had another incident with apple support when I was incorporating a few iMac G5s in our reception area, it was a simple matter of interfacing with a windows network and the "support rep" was clueless about the simplest of network protocols and was befuddled at the concept that I would be running PowerPoint presentations on them. But then perhaps they support iPods very well...