Thanks for sharing the baseline latency. I work for a rather prominent wireless manufacturer and I just don't see the latency you're talking about. Voice over wifi would be impossible with that level of latency and we see customers deploy that everyday. Is this limited to Linux?
The latency measurements in the article are meaningless. Reducing seconds of latency to milliseconds! Where is point a and b? The driver layer adds ten seconds of latency? None of this makes sense.
How is building a website with a database back end a complex project? How does 240 million get spent and they couldn't afford a project manager?
I know there are ridiculous integration requirement but this isn't exactly rocket surgery.
you know.... well.... I just don't know how to respond to this. You spend too much time on the internet formulating theories. Actually that should read, absorbing other people's theories.
Yes, China is doing well right now. It probably is not from an overarching scheme to take over the world. Look at Japan in the eighties. They did well.
Maybe China is doing well because they are making some right decisions. The are fucked up in many ways but they seem to be figuring stuff out economically. This is not a bad thing. Jingoistic shit like the tripe you are spewing just doesn't make any sense. Look at how dependent they are on our economy.
You might want to look up, "THE FUCKING REAL WORLD AND HOW IT WORKS."
(But Eka and the other judges concluded that simply endorsing the principles of copyright law was no grounds for disqualification in a trial; copyright was written into Swedish law, and judges can't be called "biased" simply because they support existing laws. "The Court of Appeal has come to the conclusion that none of the circumstances set out, individually or taken together, means that there are legitimate doubts about the judge's impartiality in this case. There has not been any bias," concluded the court. The decision cannot be appealed")
Imagine the hideous analogies we can come up with. Judge A belongs to the bar association. Can he rule on lawyer misconduct? I am playing devil's advocate here and like I said I don't agree with the decision. I hope they win their appeal but I think human rights violation is a tad overboard. They still have their appeal.
Human rights violations? WTF. I think the judge is obviously biased and I disagree with the decision, but what human rights are being violated? What a bunch of self righteous pussies we are becoming. Read some history.
I think you need to look up fascism in a dictionary.
1: A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
What is conservative or right wing about that? I don't like the republicans either but you may want to know what you're talking about before telling other people to read more.
For the record, I'm a libertarian. That should give you something to rant about.
copy tftp flash boot system flash:/blahblah reload
Yeah it's a fucking nightmare. How hard is it to call Cisco and ask, "is this supported?" There are routers that are up for years without being reloaded. Bugs hit you in certain circumstances but ususally it's when you are changing things.
Oh wait... You are a Juniper fan. I get it. Good luck with that.
Super-network-nerd here. Do you own any fiber? Who are you peering with for your magical internet access? Sorry, I don't mean to be a dick but people forget that you actually have to connect to the network at some point. The choke points you speak of are peering points and I have to say if you DDOS them it won't last very long. This is why groups like NANOG exist.
I used to live in the west side of Chicago. It needs a conceal/carry law that allows citizens to protect themselves. The criminals there already have AK-47 battles in Humboldt Park. Nice logic with the hole in the ground though. How much more gun control can you get in a city that absolutely bans handguns? At what point will you admit that it isn't working? How does your "more gun control" argument work when the law can't be taken any further? I could get an illegal gun in 10 minutes in Chicago.
Their "how much you can save calculator" is hilarious. They estimate that you will spend one quarter of your work hours maintaining an exchange server for 150 people. Show me that idiot and I'll show you someone that could really benefit from enterprise gmail. Great marketing strategy. Reminds me of "Get the Facts." I like Google but blindly trusting them is ridiculous. No matter how much you hate Microsoft.
How did that democracy work when over 80% of the population opposed the credit bailout bill? I understand what you are saying but think about the fundamentals of how our democracy works. We trust you to vote for us every once in a while when we can pump the media full of bullshit to get you fired up. We do not trust your opinion once we get to Washington. I don't know the solution to the problem but I wouldn't call that representation.
That "insanely stupid" idea is the reason this country exists. Don't get me started on taxation without representation. Are you feeling adequately represented? When you look at the taxes that come out of your paycheck do you feel better because you're not selfish and are enlightened enough to see the common good? Define common good.
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I guess my assumptions are tainted from running enterprise APs in my house and at my customers. Of course our hardware is awesome. :)
Thanks for sharing the baseline latency. I work for a rather prominent wireless manufacturer and I just don't see the latency you're talking about. Voice over wifi would be impossible with that level of latency and we see customers deploy that everyday. Is this limited to Linux?
The latency measurements in the article are meaningless. Reducing seconds of latency to milliseconds! Where is point a and b? The driver layer adds ten seconds of latency? None of this makes sense.
This really reads like an ad.
I understand the challenges but I maintain that it's not 240 million bucks worth of difficult.
How is building a website with a database back end a complex project? How does 240 million get spent and they couldn't afford a project manager? I know there are ridiculous integration requirement but this isn't exactly rocket surgery.
240 million dollars? For a website? This is amazingly stupid. That is a ridiculous amount of money for the functionality they're looking for.
Poor people problems. I'll get my mini giraffes online and not have to deal with that mob.
can't well do?
you know.... well.... I just don't know how to respond to this. You spend too much time on the internet formulating theories. Actually that should read, absorbing other people's theories. Yes, China is doing well right now. It probably is not from an overarching scheme to take over the world. Look at Japan in the eighties. They did well. Maybe China is doing well because they are making some right decisions. The are fucked up in many ways but they seem to be figuring stuff out economically. This is not a bad thing. Jingoistic shit like the tripe you are spewing just doesn't make any sense. Look at how dependent they are on our economy. You might want to look up, "THE FUCKING REAL WORLD AND HOW IT WORKS."
Granted, it's not on the same level as militia machinegunning unarmed villages
That is all I'm saying. I agree with you that it was not a fair trial. I'm talking about matters of severity.
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(But Eka and the other judges concluded that simply endorsing the principles of copyright law was no grounds for disqualification in a trial; copyright was written into Swedish law, and judges can't be called "biased" simply because they support existing laws.
"The Court of Appeal has come to the conclusion that none of the circumstances set out, individually or taken together, means that there are legitimate doubts about the judge's impartiality in this case. There has not been any bias," concluded the court. The decision cannot be appealed")
Imagine the hideous analogies we can come up with. Judge A belongs to the bar association. Can he rule on lawyer misconduct? I am playing devil's advocate here and like I said I don't agree with the decision. I hope they win their appeal but I think human rights violation is a tad overboard. They still have their appeal.
They are going through the process right now. They are appealing. I'm not saying that I like the decision but this is far from Kafka.
Human rights violations? WTF. I think the judge is obviously biased and I disagree with the decision, but what human rights are being violated? What a bunch of self righteous pussies we are becoming. Read some history.
A little meddling certainly helped us in our revolutionary war. I tend to agree with you but it is not always so clear cut.
All in favor of adding it to the official internet dictionary raise their hands.
I think you need to look up fascism in a dictionary.
1: A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
What is conservative or right wing about that? I don't like the republicans either but you may want to know what you're talking about before telling other people to read more.
For the record, I'm a libertarian. That should give you something to rant about.
They are going to start selling water made from his tears.
I can't resist posting. I wonder how many posts this article will get.
copy tftp flash
boot system flash:/blahblah
reload
Yeah it's a fucking nightmare. How hard is it to call Cisco and ask, "is this supported?" There are routers that are up for years without being reloaded. Bugs hit you in certain circumstances but ususally it's when you are changing things.
Oh wait... You are a Juniper fan. I get it. Good luck with that.
Super-network-nerd here. Do you own any fiber? Who are you peering with for your magical internet access? Sorry, I don't mean to be a dick but people forget that you actually have to connect to the network at some point. The choke points you speak of are peering points and I have to say if you DDOS them it won't last very long. This is why groups like NANOG exist.
I used to live in the west side of Chicago. It needs a conceal/carry law that allows citizens to protect themselves. The criminals there already have AK-47 battles in Humboldt Park. Nice logic with the hole in the ground though. How much more gun control can you get in a city that absolutely bans handguns? At what point will you admit that it isn't working? How does your "more gun control" argument work when the law can't be taken any further? I could get an illegal gun in 10 minutes in Chicago.
Their "how much you can save calculator" is hilarious. They estimate that you will spend one quarter of your work hours maintaining an exchange server for 150 people. Show me that idiot and I'll show you someone that could really benefit from enterprise gmail. Great marketing strategy. Reminds me of "Get the Facts." I like Google but blindly trusting them is ridiculous. No matter how much you hate Microsoft.
How did that democracy work when over 80% of the population opposed the credit bailout bill? I understand what you are saying but think about the fundamentals of how our democracy works. We trust you to vote for us every once in a while when we can pump the media full of bullshit to get you fired up. We do not trust your opinion once we get to Washington. I don't know the solution to the problem but I wouldn't call that representation.
That "insanely stupid" idea is the reason this country exists. Don't get me started on taxation without representation. Are you feeling adequately represented? When you look at the taxes that come out of your paycheck do you feel better because you're not selfish and are enlightened enough to see the common good? Define common good.