Let's round DOWN to one million (the number is higher than that, and MUCH higher if you include bonded, armed private guards with the ability to detain,
No, And why should we include private guards in a discussion of police misconduct? Next, you'll want to include middle school hall monitors.
"In 2008, state and local law enforcement agencies employed more than 1.1 million people on a full-time basis, including about 765,000 sworn personnel (defined as those with general arrest powers). "
Sergei Yushenkov, Boris Nemtsov, Boris Berezovsky, Sergei Magnitsky, Natalia Estemirova, Anna Politkovskaya, Alexander Litvinenko, Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova would disagree.
You're off, deliberately, by a factor of 500. Do you always round up by several decimal places?
In 2010, there were approximately 650,000 sworn police officers in the United States. 6,826 of them were accused of misconduct. I'm not sure how you figure that's "less than 0.002%"
So, in 2010, less than two-one-thousandths of one percent of the country's population made misconduct REPORTS?
That's in one year.
Let's look at it a different way: In one year, 1% of all sworn police officers in the United States had misconduct charges brought against them. $300 million was paid out by police departments to the victims of that misconduct, excluding sealed settlements, court costs, and attorney fees. Since most of these cases are sealed settlements, we're over half a billion dollars paid by taxpayers for police misconduct. As a side note: on average, 1100 police officers are arrested for committing crimes unrelated to misconduct every year. That's three per day.
In one year.
Now, let's assume that those officers who commit misconduct are taken off the force. One percent every year means a different one percent.
Now, one in ten is too high, but it's understandable that one in 100 police officers are scumbags. The problem is not only that one in 100 (every year!), but the other 99% that reflexively cover for them, even to the point of committing perjury or tampering with evidence. District attorneys, who are dependent on police, are highly unlikely to bring charges, even in the most awful incidences.
Further, on average, 1100 police officers are arrested for committing crimes unrelated to misconduct every year. That's three per day. (Study done by Bowling Green University, funded by the Justice Department)
When you have a culture that portrays all police as "heroes" and at the same time a government that is militarizing police forces, you have a toxic situation. Remember, police officers are nothing more than armed bureaucrats. Government workers who will get government pensions (and can start collecting in their 40s). Union members. If you believe in limited government (and I know you do), you must also believe in limited respect for police forces. It's not even as dangerous a job as most people believe, based on Dept of Labor statistics of workplace injury or death. Being a janitor, garbage collector or taxi driver is far more dangerous than being a cop.
I always thought it was kind of hilarious that some people define "self defense" as "I'll strike first".
You know, I agree. Those "stand your ground" laws have always been wrong, on so many levels, because they give people who really want to perpetrate violence an opportunity.
I guess the legal definition of self-defense is a pretty good compromise:
n. the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, if the defender has reason to believe he/she/they is/are in danger.
A case could be made that if someone tells you that they want ethnic cleansing, and you happen to be one of the ones who they want to ethnically cleanse, and they're part of a group that has a history of ethnic cleansing, the legal definition of "self-defense" could certainly apply.
So, perhaps the rate of misbehavior by police was low already,
I've found some statistics for 2010. I don't know if the rate of police misbehavior in DC has gone down since then, but it was pretty bad.
"4,861 – Unique reports of police misconduct tracked 6,613 – Number of sworn law enforcement officers involved (354 were agency leaders such as chiefs or sheriffs) 6,826 – Number of alleged victims involved 247 – Number of fatalities associated with tracked reports $346,512,800 – Estimated amount spent on misconduct-related civil judgments and settlements excluding sealed settlements, court costs, and attorney fees."
If 'bad behavior' is only attributable to a small percentage of cops to begin with, then you would expect little change on average from using cameras.
The "bad behavior" (a nice euphemism for killing people) may be attributable to only a small percentage of cops, but the much larger percentage are part of a system which is designed to protect the bad cops.
The fact is, cameras have no effect on bad cops because bad cops know ain't nothing gonna happen to them.
Have you ever been to California? I mean seriously.
I just moved to the Central Coast. It's heaven on Earth. There's surfing, the weather is always wonderful and it's absolutely beautiful. I have ten beaches within a 5 minute drive or pleasant bike ride. I can get the best fish tacos on the planet and the girls wear really short shorts here. Cheap and delicious fresh fruit and produce. In a half-hour, I'm going up a mountain behind my house so that I can watch the Orionids meteor shower.
I've been from one end of this great country to the other. Chicago, New York, Carolinas, Texas. This is the spot, right here. When I die, I want my wife to throw my ashes on the Pacific, like Walter and the Dude threw Donnie's ashes.
Except one side defines "Nazi" as anyone who disagrees with their extremist social and political decisions.
You repeat that canard, but it's just not true. We're talking about literal Nazis, promoting literal ethnic cleansing using literal swastikas. Just because they put a picture of Pepe next to the swastika doesn't make them less Nazi.
"The man who hugged a Nazi outside Richard Spencer’s speech at the University of Florida on Thursday said, “I could have hit him, I could have hurt him... but something in me said, ‘You know what? He just needs love.’”
A man wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with swastikas on Thursday was surrounded by a crowd of protesters who screamed, punched and spat on him before Aaron Courtney gave him a hug.
Courtney, a 31-year-old high school football coach in Gainesville, yelled, “Why don’t you like me, dog?” as he wrapped his arms around the Nazi in a video that quickly went viral on social media.
The Nazi was later identified as Randy Furniss."
2) Three Neo-Nazis charged with attempted murder after firing guns into a crowd of protesters:
"The three men pulled up next to a bus stop while leaving the neo-Nazi talk and started yelling Nazi slogans and cheering Adolf Hitler, according to The Gainesville Sun. That’s when the allegedly victim hit the car with a baton. Tenbrink reportedly pulled a handgun and got out of the car while the other two men yelled, “I’m going to fucking kill you,” and “Shoot them.” The shot missed and struck a nearby building."
No, Antifa is not "as bad as the Nazis". Nobody's as bad as the Nazis. Because they're Nazis.
Trivia alert: of course that's not because of the Ohio thing, it's because it's an unofficial flag celebrating NM. Technically, new flags are only officially adopted on July 4th and NM entered the union in Jan and AZ entered in Feb one month later...
And yet, that 47-star flag on ebay was posted from Columbiana, Ohio.
Now you know the rest of the story. Coincidence? Perhaps not.
No, And why should we include private guards in a discussion of police misconduct? Next, you'll want to include middle school hall monitors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"The Oceanic Pole of Inaccessibility" sounds like the title of a prog-rock album.
That's not who most of us are worried about.
Oh, I like this game.
I'll take, kill Putin, marry Russia, and fuck Trump.
Sergei Yushenkov, Boris Nemtsov, Boris Berezovsky, Sergei Magnitsky, Natalia Estemirova, Anna Politkovskaya, Alexander Litvinenko, Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova would disagree.
I didn't get my first VPN until just after I hit puberty.
Wait, what exactly is a VPN again?
In 2010, there were approximately 650,000 sworn police officers in the United States. 6,826 of them were accused of misconduct. I'm not sure how you figure that's "less than 0.002%"
That's in one year.
Let's look at it a different way: In one year, 1% of all sworn police officers in the United States had misconduct charges brought against them. $300 million was paid out by police departments to the victims of that misconduct, excluding sealed settlements, court costs, and attorney fees. Since most of these cases are sealed settlements, we're over half a billion dollars paid by taxpayers for police misconduct. As a side note: on average, 1100 police officers are arrested for committing crimes unrelated to misconduct every year. That's three per day.
In one year.
Now, let's assume that those officers who commit misconduct are taken off the force. One percent every year means a different one percent.
Now, one in ten is too high, but it's understandable that one in 100 police officers are scumbags. The problem is not only that one in 100 (every year!), but the other 99% that reflexively cover for them, even to the point of committing perjury or tampering with evidence. District attorneys, who are dependent on police, are highly unlikely to bring charges, even in the most awful incidences.
Further, on average, 1100 police officers are arrested for committing crimes unrelated to misconduct every year. That's three per day. (Study done by Bowling Green University, funded by the Justice Department)
When you have a culture that portrays all police as "heroes" and at the same time a government that is militarizing police forces, you have a toxic situation. Remember, police officers are nothing more than armed bureaucrats. Government workers who will get government pensions (and can start collecting in their 40s). Union members. If you believe in limited government (and I know you do), you must also believe in limited respect for police forces. It's not even as dangerous a job as most people believe, based on Dept of Labor statistics of workplace injury or death. Being a janitor, garbage collector or taxi driver is far more dangerous than being a cop.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
Ah, Garfield High School's finest.
Also a great choice:
https://youtu.be/i9JO52grtMc
You know, I agree. Those "stand your ground" laws have always been wrong, on so many levels, because they give people who really want to perpetrate violence an opportunity.
I guess the legal definition of self-defense is a pretty good compromise:
A case could be made that if someone tells you that they want ethnic cleansing, and you happen to be one of the ones who they want to ethnically cleanse, and they're part of a group that has a history of ethnic cleansing, the legal definition of "self-defense" could certainly apply.
I have proof that Seattle had soul, at least at one time:
https://www.billboard.com/file...
This explains why my thermostat is now mining Bitcoin.
Q: Is this a game of chance?
A: Not the way I play it.
I've found some statistics for 2010. I don't know if the rate of police misbehavior in DC has gone down since then, but it was pretty bad.
The "bad behavior" (a nice euphemism for killing people) may be attributable to only a small percentage of cops, but the much larger percentage are part of a system which is designed to protect the bad cops.
The fact is, cameras have no effect on bad cops because bad cops know ain't nothing gonna happen to them.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com...
I just moved to the Central Coast. It's heaven on Earth. There's surfing, the weather is always wonderful and it's absolutely beautiful. I have ten beaches within a 5 minute drive or pleasant bike ride. I can get the best fish tacos on the planet and the girls wear really short shorts here. Cheap and delicious fresh fruit and produce. In a half-hour, I'm going up a mountain behind my house so that I can watch the Orionids meteor shower.
I've been from one end of this great country to the other. Chicago, New York, Carolinas, Texas. This is the spot, right here. When I die, I want my wife to throw my ashes on the Pacific, like Walter and the Dude threw Donnie's ashes.
https://youtu.be/u44D3qKKGPU
I don't think we have to worry about there being any rocket scientists among the current crop of Nazis.
You repeat that canard, but it's just not true. We're talking about literal Nazis, promoting literal ethnic cleansing using literal swastikas. Just because they put a picture of Pepe next to the swastika doesn't make them less Nazi.
Let's review two stories from yesterday's Nazi rally in Florida:
1) Antifa protester hugs Nazi: http://www.nydailynews.com/new...
2) Three Neo-Nazis charged with attempted murder after firing guns into a crowd of protesters:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/...
No, Antifa is not "as bad as the Nazis". Nobody's as bad as the Nazis. Because they're Nazis.
So, you don't believe the the Second Amendment?
Violence against Nazis is society's self-defense.
I can't imagine there's anyone living in Arkansas that doesn't want to move to California.
And yet, that 47-star flag on ebay was posted from Columbiana, Ohio.
Now you know the rest of the story. Coincidence? Perhaps not.
Got news for you: A lot of the original Nazis were also just cowards waving the flag.
It's simple: You wave the Nazi flag, you're a Nazi. There's no need to over-think this.
Dude, you need to get a better Nazi-to-English translator.
Do you believe every single news outlet in the world is using a photoshopped image of a Nazi being punched?
Here a local Florida newspaper:
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/...
And here's a British newspaper:
https://www.independent.co.uk/...
And here's a video of Richard Spencer being punched, just because it's so fun to watch:
https://youtu.be/9rh1dhur4aI