I'm sorry, it seems as if you are saying that her grandchildren getting a royalty cheque is a sign of sanity? I don't know if you are being facetious,
It seems as if you have trouble reading my post. I'm certainly not being facetious nor am I being sarcastic. Why would _ I _ ever be sarcastic.
OK, to hit you with the clue by four, to say that "yes, they'll receive their royalty cheques" is a sarcastic way to say that there is no sanity in copyright laws.
On the contrary, they discouraging the purchase of her songs, they're doing us a favour by not having us listen to Whitney Houston awful songs on repeat.
That's going to be troublesome for people like me who are routinely receiving mails in various languages (for me: English, Dutch, German, Chinese). Or mails that are multi-lingual, including the above but sometimes also random other languages such as parts in Russian, Polish, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, just to name a few.
Do you mean to tell me there are no spell checkers for Dutch, German, Chinese, Polish, Russian, Korean, Vietnamese and Japanese?
AT&T needs to learn from the insurance companies - the REAL profit is in selling a product you never intend to deliver.
This is why I'm glad Australia has an advertising standards board. You're not allowed to sell an "infinite" service unless your service is 100% infinite. We had a case back in 02 or 03 where ADSL providers were selling "infinite" plans, the thing is that throttled you down to dial-up speeds after so many GB's. They put a stop to this practice pretty quick.
But "could give you cancer" is an accurate portrayal of DNA strand nicking. I assume by the quotation marks whatever expert they were quoting would have made such a statement because it is in fact what could happen in this instance.
Which highlights another problem with the Daily Mail. They report speculation, not fact. They've taken a loose connection between "radiation" and "cancer" and attepted to portray it as a link.
They didn't exactly lie
Outright lie, no.
Mislead and tell half truths, yes.
One of the DM's biggest problems is that it presents opinions as fact, this is the worst sin for a newspaper but unfortunately, it's Newsgroup policy.
Or did you think the article didn't accurately reflect his stance?
When talking about the Daily Mail, this is a very real possibility. They have a long history of misquoting experts or in some cases completely fabricating quotes in order to support a flawed veiw.
So I wouldn't quote the DM as a reputable source not would I reasonably expect to be taken seriously if I did. What I'd do is find the DM's source and post that.
Wikipedia was a more reliable source then the Daily Mail on this subject, considerably less alarmist then the DM article. What Dr Brenner said is that the effects of the higher then normal dose of radiation from MM wave scanners was unkown and it's children with gene mutations may not be able to repair the damage to their DNA. What the Daily Mail said was the machines 'could give you cancer'. Even when the DM is trying to do something good, it lies and cheats to do it. This is why the DM is not a reputable or reliable source.
Remove the damn scanners instead! They are not solving any problems (has even one person been apprehended as a result of this?).
And stop trying to force them into other nations.
The US has shoehorned in these scanners into Australian airports (we've never had so much as a hijacking) on the back of some security treaty with the US.
I was with you right up till the iTard line... Foxconn and really china's labor practices in general are horrific, but it isn't apple to blame,
Apple are to blame, as well as Apple's customers.
Apple are spending billions to avoid Samsung as a supplier simply because Samsung are competing successfully against their products, however Apple are doing nothing about Foxconn. There are other factories in china that do comply with forieng labour laws, there are other nations such as Thailand or the Philippines which are cheap and have laws against child labour and exploitation. Apple could afford to make the Iphone in America and still make money off of it (yes, Iphone owners are ripped off that much) yet Apple do nothing.
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The overwhelming majority of nations in the world use 200+ V, Sony isn't making this for the American market only.
electricians wire this stuff hot all the time.
Electricians get electrical shocks all the time.
Your dodgy cousin may like to wire stuff hot, but a proper sparky will switch off circuit at the breaker. It's really not that hard to switch it off at the breaker and eliminates the chance of a shock (and 230v shocks are not pleasant).
Um, no. To deliver mains power to the device connected, it has to have mains wires running to the outlet itself.
To think so few on/. would have a working knowledge of electrical circuits.
In order for a socket to work on AC it needs a live wire and somewhere for the power to go (ground or neutral wire). If you touch a live wire, electricity now has a ground connection, that connection being you.
So most likely, the outlet itself has the switching circuitry inside
Yes,
So remove the GPO and you have a live wire that is only one neutral or ground connection away from making a circuit.
If you can't be the P you shouldn't be a P. The government should not be the P.
But who gets to determine who is and isn't fit to be a P?
People unfit to be a P will often make the decision to become a P completely oblivious to their inability to be a P. Shows like 15 and pregnant are proof of this.
Sorry, but you cant blame bad P's on government bungling, as much as I agree with you about the government not being a P.
This is a whole section of obviously good legal reform which has been held up by special interest groups for over a decade because the general public just doesn't care (changing now since the average gamer age is approaching 30, to bad those in power tend to be 50-60).
This,
The majority of Australians support R18+ for games, it's a tiny minority who oppose it (most notably Christian lobby groups). Unfortunately it's a tiny minority that was owed political favours. Since then the roadblock, Michael Atkinson was removed, punished first by voters, then by his own party as he resigned from the front bench. The Attorney Generals have approved it and it's going before parliament.
This reminds me a bit of the early days of spyware and malware when anti-virus companies were behind the curve and tried to write off that since malware was typically installed with user consent, they weren't responsible for scanning, detecting, and removing it. Apple is doing the same, but without even saying it's not their responsibility. Instead, they keep giving consumers the false belief in the safety of the walled / curated garden.
This isn't entirely accurate. Apple have taken responibilty for scanning, detecting and removing malware except that they aren't doing a very good job of it.
I sincerely doubt Apple's sandbox for apps will do much to stop them. If anything, the sandbox makes it harder to find a well concieved malicious program.
This, any sysadmin with a basic idea of security knows that a gateway, no matter how good will never protect internal machines. Internal devices need individual security.
Plus the hardware similarities of iDevices will work against them. Find an exploit in a driver for one Iphone, you have an exploit for all of them.
But that's just it. Because the outlet has no authenticated device plugged in, there would be minimal current running to it. So you remove it and take it home.
And connect it to the mains connection that you pay for?
Seems like a pretty stupid idea since you would pay the same for an unauthenticated GPO, all you'd get was a free GPO that doesn't work with all devices.
Beyond this, it seems the authentication is in the outlet and not the wire or fuse box, so once you have the wire and make a circuit you can have all the amperage you like... Well, until the RCD (Residual Current Device) kicks in and shuts down the entire circuit.
I've had a "low current" 220v shock, they aren't pleasant. I'd never touch a GPO without having the mains switched off. Even a shock doesn't kill me, it'll hurt like hell. The odd thing about electrical shocks is that they need to enter and exit the body, they'll go towards the first point of ground, when I was an electrical TA, an electrician was installing a lamp on the wall, he was sitting on an metal stool, he touched a live wire (8A/220V for lights in Oz) so the charge came into his fingers and guess where it existed... Straight into the metal stool, he couldn't sit right for weeks.
Yeah, because nobody will think of correlating where the outlet IS versus where the drain is coming from.
Your plan requires the people to be incredibly stupid. A not unreasonable belief, but it strains some credulity.
This, by the sounds of it is more for internal use. Such as hotels, apartment blocks or airports.
Not sure about America, you have funny looking power sockets so I'm not sure about the rest of it but in Oz, your house is hooked up to the mains grid via a transformer, it's a single point of presence, that is metered and that number is how you get charged. So the OP's plan is not only stupid and dangerous, it wont work as you'll be moving the socket from one circuit to a completely different one.
I can see this being used by cheap hotels to add an extra charge to guests who use a lot of power (or use power at all, in the case of really cheap hotels) or by cafe's and airports to monitor usage. I can also see a use in the home, when a parent punishes their kid by sending them to their room, they can now disable the GPO's in that room without affecting the rest of the house.
But as for hacking it, I can see how replacing a socket that requires authentication in a hotel with one that doesn't could be used for siphon power without paying for it, but you have to be stupid as well as stupidly cheap to risk a 230v shock to avoid an electricity fee in a hotel.
I'm serious, US power points look like sad faces, I keep picturing them saying "oh, no, please dont plug that into me". It doesn't help that I only see them in Thailand when I'm normally quite drunk. The Israeli SI32 looks like an alien.
Correct me I'm wrong, as I'm not in the know, but wouldn't this be a plus for rom development on motorola droid phones?
It could.
With HTC officially unlocking its bootloaders and Samsung officially hiring the Cyanogen guy (and then encouraging him to continue doing his custom rom development on the side -- with a healthy salary and no strings attached), custom Android rom development is looking very promising all around.
With Samsung and Cyanogen, they're motives aren't entirely altruistic.
As someone who has been running modded Android for 2.5 years now. The features we have in Android ROMS are the features people get in official ROMS 12-18 months down the track. Samsung knows this and is staying ahead of the game. For example, I had WiFi and USB tethering in Android 1.5 on my HTC Dream, it became commonplace in Android 2.2. Aftermarket ROMS are great for Android manufacturers as they get to gauge responses to designs and features before putting the work into them.
If you can't recognize that the iPhone is a good phone, you're just as bad as Apple "fanboys".
If you insist on forcing your opinions on others, you're worse then the Apple fanboys.
I have to carry an Iphone for work, it does SMS and phone calls and that's it. compared to my Android phone (Desire Z), Nokia E72 and Nokia 6500 C and out of all of those the Iphone is the worst phone I've used. The formatting for SMS's is terrible. Loading on new notification tones is too hard (so everyone with an Iphone has the same damn notification tone). Trying to access a list of recently called numbers is a lot more difficult then it needs to be, adding a contact from that list is again, more difficult then it needs to be. Layout of the on screen back buttons is annoying, having to go back to the home screen to get from phone to messages is an utter PITA.
My list goes on. It also loads slower then my Desire Z, that's just covered up by animations.
I really need to emphasise how bad the SMS formatting is, I get automated alerts and having half the screen taken up by useless white space, then half the screen taken up by the keyboard means I've got 1/4 of the screen left for the message.
I've made it clear to my employer that when this contract is up, I will not be accepting another Iphone because it fails at this simple task so completely.
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It seems as if you have trouble reading my post. I'm certainly not being facetious nor am I being sarcastic. Why would _ I _ ever be sarcastic.
OK, to hit you with the clue by four, to say that "yes, they'll receive their royalty cheques" is a sarcastic way to say that there is no sanity in copyright laws.
Personally, I celebrate the woman's entire catalog.
Commando team dispatched.
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possibly her grandchildren down the road
Not if copyright laws had any sanity in them.
So they're going to get a royalty cheque then.
Bunch of f-ing assholes.
On the contrary, they discouraging the purchase of her songs, they're doing us a favour by not having us listen to Whitney Houston awful songs on repeat.
That's going to be troublesome for people like me who are routinely receiving mails in various languages (for me: English, Dutch, German, Chinese). Or mails that are multi-lingual, including the above but sometimes also random other languages such as parts in Russian, Polish, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, just to name a few.
Do you mean to tell me there are no spell checkers for Dutch, German, Chinese, Polish, Russian, Korean, Vietnamese and Japanese?
However do they survive?
...for trying to use the product they bought.
AT&T needs to learn from the insurance companies - the REAL profit is in selling a product you never intend to deliver.
This is why I'm glad Australia has an advertising standards board. You're not allowed to sell an "infinite" service unless your service is 100% infinite. We had a case back in 02 or 03 where ADSL providers were selling "infinite" plans, the thing is that throttled you down to dial-up speeds after so many GB's. They put a stop to this practice pretty quick.
Which highlights another problem with the Daily Mail. They report speculation, not fact. They've taken a loose connection between "radiation" and "cancer" and attepted to portray it as a link. They didn't exactly lie
Outright lie, no.
Mislead and tell half truths, yes.
One of the DM's biggest problems is that it presents opinions as fact, this is the worst sin for a newspaper but unfortunately, it's Newsgroup policy.
When talking about the Daily Mail, this is a very real possibility. They have a long history of misquoting experts or in some cases completely fabricating quotes in order to support a flawed veiw.
So I wouldn't quote the DM as a reputable source not would I reasonably expect to be taken seriously if I did. What I'd do is find the DM's source and post that.
Wikipedia was a more reliable source then the Daily Mail on this subject, considerably less alarmist then the DM article. What Dr Brenner said is that the effects of the higher then normal dose of radiation from MM wave scanners was unkown and it's children with gene mutations may not be able to repair the damage to their DNA. What the Daily Mail said was the machines 'could give you cancer'. Even when the DM is trying to do something good, it lies and cheats to do it. This is why the DM is not a reputable or reliable source.
Remove the damn scanners instead! They are not solving any problems (has even one person been apprehended as a result of this?).
And stop trying to force them into other nations.
The US has shoehorned in these scanners into Australian airports (we've never had so much as a hijacking) on the back of some security treaty with the US.
What about their buddies the Clitoral Investigation Agency?
It's full of guys... so they still haven't found it...
No, that's the GAO, G-spot Accountability Office.
Apple are to blame, as well as Apple's customers.
Apple are spending billions to avoid Samsung as a supplier simply because Samsung are competing successfully against their products, however Apple are doing nothing about Foxconn. There are other factories in china that do comply with forieng labour laws, there are other nations such as Thailand or the Philippines which are cheap and have laws against child labour and exploitation. Apple could afford to make the Iphone in America and still make money off of it (yes, Iphone owners are ripped off that much) yet Apple do nothing.
Well nothing beyond suing their competitors.
THIS IS BASIC SPAM FILTER 101, if there is no address, or Unsubscribe in the newsletter, or a poor text to image ratio, IT IS SPAM! What the hell is their spam team researching?
Also if you cant pass it through a spell checker without too many errors, it's also spam.
The overwhelming majority of nations in the world use 200+ V, Sony isn't making this for the American market only.
Electricians get electrical shocks all the time.
Your dodgy cousin may like to wire stuff hot, but a proper sparky will switch off circuit at the breaker. It's really not that hard to switch it off at the breaker and eliminates the chance of a shock (and 230v shocks are not pleasant).
To think so few on /. would have a working knowledge of electrical circuits.
In order for a socket to work on AC it needs a live wire and somewhere for the power to go (ground or neutral wire). If you touch a live wire, electricity now has a ground connection, that connection being you.
Yes,
So remove the GPO and you have a live wire that is only one neutral or ground connection away from making a circuit.
But who gets to determine who is and isn't fit to be a P?
People unfit to be a P will often make the decision to become a P completely oblivious to their inability to be a P. Shows like 15 and pregnant are proof of this.
Sorry, but you cant blame bad P's on government bungling, as much as I agree with you about the government not being a P.
This is a whole section of obviously good legal reform which has been held up by special interest groups for over a decade because the general public just doesn't care (changing now since the average gamer age is approaching 30, to bad those in power tend to be 50-60).
This,
The majority of Australians support R18+ for games, it's a tiny minority who oppose it (most notably Christian lobby groups). Unfortunately it's a tiny minority that was owed political favours. Since then the roadblock, Michael Atkinson was removed, punished first by voters, then by his own party as he resigned from the front bench. The Attorney Generals have approved it and it's going before parliament.
Access to private data on outside of the apps (calendar, contacts, etc.) should be controllable on an per app basis, just like with location service.
You mean the way Android does it? By listing the permissions the application has asked for when you install it.
It wouldn't be the first thing they slavishly copied from Android (*cough*notification menu*cough*)
And each app accessing this data should be carefully reverse engineered and analyzed to ensure it is safe.
Good luck with that.
Companies will object to their proprietary code and secrets being examined, users will scream until they get their fart apps.
This isn't entirely accurate. Apple have taken responibilty for scanning, detecting and removing malware except that they aren't doing a very good job of it.
This, any sysadmin with a basic idea of security knows that a gateway, no matter how good will never protect internal machines. Internal devices need individual security. Plus the hardware similarities of iDevices will work against them. Find an exploit in a driver for one Iphone, you have an exploit for all of them.
Anyone has done any research on Android apps, on the same topic ?
Actually, very few leak details.
Android applications have to ask permissions to get access to the internet or your personal details.
But that's just it. Because the outlet has no authenticated device plugged in, there would be minimal current running to it. So you remove it and take it home.
And connect it to the mains connection that you pay for?
Seems like a pretty stupid idea since you would pay the same for an unauthenticated GPO, all you'd get was a free GPO that doesn't work with all devices.
Beyond this, it seems the authentication is in the outlet and not the wire or fuse box, so once you have the wire and make a circuit you can have all the amperage you like... Well, until the RCD (Residual Current Device) kicks in and shuts down the entire circuit.
I've had a "low current" 220v shock, they aren't pleasant. I'd never touch a GPO without having the mains switched off. Even a shock doesn't kill me, it'll hurt like hell. The odd thing about electrical shocks is that they need to enter and exit the body, they'll go towards the first point of ground, when I was an electrical TA, an electrician was installing a lamp on the wall, he was sitting on an metal stool, he touched a live wire (8A/220V for lights in Oz) so the charge came into his fingers and guess where it existed... Straight into the metal stool, he couldn't sit right for weeks.
No, at worst, you might get electrocuted ;)
Might?
Removing a GPO (General Power Outlet) with live current running through it, I say the chances are closer to "will".
Yeah, because nobody will think of correlating where the outlet IS versus where the drain is coming from.
Your plan requires the people to be incredibly stupid. A not unreasonable belief, but it strains some credulity.
This, by the sounds of it is more for internal use. Such as hotels, apartment blocks or airports.
Not sure about America, you have funny looking power sockets so I'm not sure about the rest of it but in Oz, your house is hooked up to the mains grid via a transformer, it's a single point of presence, that is metered and that number is how you get charged. So the OP's plan is not only stupid and dangerous, it wont work as you'll be moving the socket from one circuit to a completely different one.
I can see this being used by cheap hotels to add an extra charge to guests who use a lot of power (or use power at all, in the case of really cheap hotels) or by cafe's and airports to monitor usage. I can also see a use in the home, when a parent punishes their kid by sending them to their room, they can now disable the GPO's in that room without affecting the rest of the house.
But as for hacking it, I can see how replacing a socket that requires authentication in a hotel with one that doesn't could be used for siphon power without paying for it, but you have to be stupid as well as stupidly cheap to risk a 230v shock to avoid an electricity fee in a hotel.
I'm serious, US power points look like sad faces, I keep picturing them saying "oh, no, please dont plug that into me". It doesn't help that I only see them in Thailand when I'm normally quite drunk. The Israeli SI32 looks like an alien.
Correct me I'm wrong, as I'm not in the know, but wouldn't this be a plus for rom development on motorola droid phones?
It could.
With HTC officially unlocking its bootloaders and Samsung officially hiring the Cyanogen guy (and then encouraging him to continue doing his custom rom development on the side -- with a healthy salary and no strings attached), custom Android rom development is looking very promising all around.
With Samsung and Cyanogen, they're motives aren't entirely altruistic.
As someone who has been running modded Android for 2.5 years now. The features we have in Android ROMS are the features people get in official ROMS 12-18 months down the track. Samsung knows this and is staying ahead of the game. For example, I had WiFi and USB tethering in Android 1.5 on my HTC Dream, it became commonplace in Android 2.2. Aftermarket ROMS are great for Android manufacturers as they get to gauge responses to designs and features before putting the work into them.
Begun, the phone wars have.
Where have you been for the last 2 years?
The phone wars have been raging for some time now. This is just escalation to a nuclear level.
If you can't recognize that the iPhone is a good phone, you're just as bad as Apple "fanboys".
If you insist on forcing your opinions on others, you're worse then the Apple fanboys.
I have to carry an Iphone for work, it does SMS and phone calls and that's it. compared to my Android phone (Desire Z), Nokia E72 and Nokia 6500 C and out of all of those the Iphone is the worst phone I've used. The formatting for SMS's is terrible. Loading on new notification tones is too hard (so everyone with an Iphone has the same damn notification tone). Trying to access a list of recently called numbers is a lot more difficult then it needs to be, adding a contact from that list is again, more difficult then it needs to be. Layout of the on screen back buttons is annoying, having to go back to the home screen to get from phone to messages is an utter PITA.
My list goes on. It also loads slower then my Desire Z, that's just covered up by animations.
I really need to emphasise how bad the SMS formatting is, I get automated alerts and having half the screen taken up by useless white space, then half the screen taken up by the keyboard means I've got 1/4 of the screen left for the message.
I've made it clear to my employer that when this contract is up, I will not be accepting another Iphone because it fails at this simple task so completely.