Its no different than "gaming" mainstream media... people will always try and cheat the system, but the strength of wikipedia is that the gamers actions are out in the open, you can see their edits.
How much POV do you think goes on in the white house briefings, or FOX news... you think wikipedia is a problem ?
I myself have been in a similar situation to you (though not related to pornography), the conclusion i came up with is...
If your a professional you wont let your beliefs get in the way of your work.
I get into programming about 20 years ago, i love programming, i expect to always have a project on the go (and maybe one day i will finish one), but its taken me this long to understand that i dont want to be a professional programmer.
Professionalism means that you have to be prepared to compromise your own goals so the teams goals are achieved.
Im way too passionate about programming to be a professional, i hate it when im expected to "finish" a project and move on, to have to give up on all the ideas i have floating around in my head... i care about quality.
I now consider myself to be a craftsman, and i suspect a lot of open source programmers are this way inclined.
If open source was about professionalism, programmers wouldnt care about peer review, they wouldnt argue about coding style, or languages, they would just care about adding the next feature.
A craftsman/artist wants perfection, a professional just wants to finish...
Actually, since the end user doesn't distribute anything there is no violation there. So the end user is still in the white.
You should have said there is no violation so far, there is a reasonable chance that a user will distribute the software when they are disposess themselves of the machine (not everyone wipes their drives clean as they should).
The GPL will probably still be violated, just that the user is put in a position where they are unaware that they are doing it by unsrupulous hardware companies.
"They exhibit the same behavioral patterns as an addict, they have the same neural-chemistry as an addict, and they suffer the same kinds of withdrawal symptoms as an addict."
Call me a scitentist if you like, but isnt it possible that two similar symptoms could have completly different causes ?
If someone in a survey was in a shitty mood because they didnt get their paper on time, it doesnt mean the next time im in a shitty mood that my paper was late.
So this magical "shim" you talk about, can i apply the same concept to books ?
If i were to write a book called "The Lord of of necklaces", about 9 magical necklaces etc etc could i create a shim around the book "The Lord of the rings"
If stuck some eatra bits before and after the my Barry Manilow mp3's could i distribute the result under my own terms ?
Im not convinced at all that "shim" is tried and true legal term.
"Every country depends on its postal system! The British MUST give up control of their postal system and allow it to be internationally governed! After all, the Brits invented it but face it, we've moved on since then. Stop being paranoid. Your postal quality will only go up, we promise."
Every country has given up control of international mail delivery, they retail control of domestic delivery.
If you dont trust an international body to run the internet, do you trust it have control of phone an fax lines... is internat dat any different ?
How can you trust international banks to transfer money for global trade if you dont trust international governance.
Global co-operation is important and we should work to common standards instead of trying to leverage existing power to take power over others.
The UN is the only democratic organisation that can perform this task.
"I think that the length granted to a patent should be proportional to the amount of time developing the invention"
Then companies could just say, the invention started with the wheel....
I think that every year or so patent holders should have to prove that the invention is directly making them a profit, if its not then they no longer need exclusive control of their invention.
"If we were to withdraw approval (NOT a possibility!) we would end up with people innocently misusing the trademark."
You could create a derivative tradmark just for what you think are the core licences, like "GPL, BSD etc" and keep the other hundred in the same more general category.
Call it "OSI core" or something, i think "core" is trendy these days.
You say Buisness is art, and economics is science.
So therefore; universities should transfer the buisness subjects to the art department with the exception of economics which should go to the science department.
I think you need to go outside and talk to some real people.
"Like most memory card formats, SD is covered by numerous patents and trademarks, and licensing is only available through the Secure Digital Card Association. The SD Card Association's current licensing agreement does not allow for open-source SD drivers, a fact that generates a fair amount of consternation in the open-source and free software communities. The usual workaround is to develop an open-source wrapper for a closed-source SD driver available on the particular platform, but this is far from ideal. Another common workaround is to use the older MMC mode, which all SD cards are required to support by the SD standard."
"This means that SD is less open than CompactFlash or USB flash memory drives, which can be implemented for free but require licensing fees for the associated logos and trademarks, but far more open than xD or Memory Stick, where no public documentation nor any documented legacy implementation is available."
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Its no different than "gaming" mainstream media... people will always try and cheat the system, but the strength of wikipedia is that the gamers actions are out in the open, you can see their edits.
How much POV do you think goes on in the white house briefings, or FOX news... you think wikipedia is a problem ?
I myself have been in a similar situation to you (though not related to pornography), the conclusion i came up with is...
If your a professional you wont let your beliefs get in the way of your work.
I get into programming about 20 years ago, i love programming, i expect to always have a project on the go (and maybe one day i will finish one), but its taken me this long to understand that i dont want to be a professional programmer.
Professionalism means that you have to be prepared to compromise your own goals so the teams goals are achieved.
Im way too passionate about programming to be a professional, i hate it when im expected to "finish" a project and move on, to have to give up on all the ideas i have floating around in my head... i care about quality.
I now consider myself to be a craftsman, and i suspect a lot of open source programmers are this way inclined.
If open source was about professionalism, programmers wouldnt care about peer review, they wouldnt argue about coding style, or languages, they would just care about adding the next feature.
A craftsman/artist wants perfection, a professional just wants to finish...
"Seeing as the charter of the CSIRO is to produce research which exclusively benefits Australian business"
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Where does it mention the word or imply exclusivity in their charter ?
http://www.csiro.au/csiro/content/standard/psod,,
+5 insightful.. damn moderators are all trolls as well...
"What Grace Note did might seem mean or wrong, but I don't see a problem with it."
The first part of that statment tells me that deep down you know its wrong, the second part tells me that you dont want to accept that its wrong.
Just listen to your conscience....
GPU's a slower than a CPU for serialised operations.
Its great for highly parallel processor bound applications, but for anything close to user level apps its just a waste of silicon.
"Why would running a web browser in 32bit mode have any negative effect on uptake of 64bit OSes?"
/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin /usr/lib/libmozjs.so (0x00002b566e625000) /usr/lib/libxpcom.so (0x00002b566e7bb000) /usr/lib/libplc4.so (0x00002b566e9a5000) /usr/lib/libnspr4.so (0x00002b566eaaa000) /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00002b566ebe6000) /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b566ecfb000) /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b566f124000) /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00002b566f2b9000) /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00002b566f4c2000) /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00002b566f5e5000) /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x00002b566f708000) /usr/lib/libsmime3.so (0x00002b566f81e000) /usr/lib/libssl3.so (0x00002b566f948000) /usr/lib/libnss3.so (0x00002b566fa6e000) /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0x00002b566fbf0000) /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00002b566fd59000) /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x00002b566fe5c000) /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x00002b566ffbc000) /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x00002b56700c4000) /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00002b56701d9000) /usr/lib/libxpcom_compat.so (0x00002b567030c000) /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00002b567042e000) /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00002b567062e000) /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00002b56707b0000) /usr/lib/libplds4.so (0x00002b56709ec000)
It makes the distribution much more complex to have combinations of 32 and 64 bit applications and libraries.
I assume all the libraries of a 32 bit app on a 64 bit system would haveto be 32 bit as well, look at all the libraries effected...
# ldd
libmozjs.so =>
libxpcom.so =>
libxpcom_core.so => not found
libplc4.so =>
libnspr4.so =>
libpthread.so.0 =>
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 =>
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 =>
libX11.so.6 =>
libpng12.so.0 =>
libjpeg.so.62 =>
libz.so.1 =>
libsmime3.so =>
libssl3.so =>
libnss3.so =>
libcairo.so.2 =>
libXinerama.so.1 =>
libXt.so.6 =>
libXp.so.6 =>
libXft.so.2 =>
libfontconfig.so.1 =>
libxpcom_compat.so =>
libstdc++.so.6 =>
libm.so.6 =>
libc.so.6 =>
libplds4.so =>
libgdk_pixbuf-2
Please explain how a license can "crumble".
Please explain how a bit can rot... Its not supposed to be taken literaly.
Bitrot is when software remains the same and its environment changes, so much so that the software doest fit anymore.
Just like software, licences need to be upgraded to keep upto date with its legal environment.
Actually, since the end user doesn't distribute anything there is no violation there. So the end user is still in the white.
You should have said there is no violation so far, there is a reasonable chance that a user will distribute the software when they are disposess themselves of the machine (not everyone wipes their drives clean as they should).
The GPL will probably still be violated, just that the user is put in a position where they are unaware that they are doing it by unsrupulous hardware companies.
"They exhibit the same behavioral patterns as an addict, they have the same neural-chemistry as an addict, and they suffer the same kinds of withdrawal symptoms as an addict."
Call me a scitentist if you like, but isnt it possible that two similar symptoms could have completly different causes ?
If someone in a survey was in a shitty mood because they didnt get their paper on time, it doesnt mean the next time im in a shitty mood that my paper was late.
"No, because it's not software and it's not distributed under the GLP."
Copyright law is not specific to software, the same concepts should be able to be applied to other forms of expression.
Copyright is law, not code, i dont think you really understand this point.
So this magical "shim" you talk about, can i apply the same concept to books ?
If i were to write a book called "The Lord of of necklaces", about 9 magical necklaces etc etc could i create a shim around the book "The Lord of the rings"
If stuck some eatra bits before and after the my Barry Manilow mp3's could i distribute the result under my own terms ?
Im not convinced at all that "shim" is tried and true legal term.
"You still need a method for it to interface with the kernel if want to use it with Linux ..."
You can make all the technical abstraction you want, it just changes from a direct dependency to an inderect dependency.
Dependency is a legal term when talking about copyright, creating technical abstractions doesnt change the legal state.
Its not a technical issue, its a legal one.
And i may as well point out another "typo" of yours, when you say
"However, parts of it are not derivative of the kernel -- these are the parts that were designed entirely independently from the kernel"
The means by which it was designed is a patent issue, not a copyright one.
You sound a bit overconfident.
"However, parts of it are not derivitive of the kernel -- these are the parts that were designed entirely independently from the kernel"
If its entirely independent then it wouldnt need the kernel at all.
"The kernel is just a shim ..."
Stop there.
You either dont know what kernel is, or you dont know what a shim is, but ill give you a second chance;
What two things do you think the kernel a shim between ?
I moved to NZ 3 months ago, its strange here, the PM isnt in the news ever yday, the media dont seem to ask her opinion on things
Yea, forget AI, people wont recognise AI untill its an AI that mimics humans, so it will have to make mistakes, but whats the point...
Why do want computers to pretend to be people when we have 6.4 billion organics who can do that job nicely.
Try making people more like computers, that would be a greater achievment, wouldnt it be nice to be part of a logical rational society ?
Maybe one day we could see police investigating the majority of companies who willfully violate the GPL.
Actually no, Copyright LAws are made to PROTECT companies, so the police would never do that.
Furthermore...
Maybe the guy who wrote it works for Lbm, you know, "International Buisness Machines"
FTFA-"Lanal" is web-speak for the disclaimer "I am not a lawyer."
Firstly, L doesnt stand for I, I stands for I.
Secondly, its all caps, its an acronym, its not a word.
Maybe if the artical was written by someone with a clue...
"Every country depends on its postal system! The British MUST give up control of their postal system and allow it to be internationally governed! After all, the Brits invented it but face it, we've moved on since then. Stop being paranoid. Your postal quality will only go up, we promise."
Every country has given up control of international mail delivery, they retail control of domestic delivery.
If you dont trust an international body to run the internet, do you trust it have control of phone an fax lines... is internat dat any different ?
How can you trust international banks to transfer money for global trade if you dont trust international governance.
Global co-operation is important and we should work to common standards instead of trying to leverage existing power to take power over others.
The UN is the only democratic organisation that can perform this task.
"I think that the length granted to a patent should be proportional to the amount of time developing the invention"
Then companies could just say, the invention started with the wheel....
I think that every year or so patent holders should have to prove that the invention is directly making them a profit, if its not then they no longer need exclusive control of their invention.
"If we were to withdraw approval (NOT a possibility!) we would end up with people innocently misusing the trademark."
You could create a derivative tradmark just for what you think are the core licences, like "GPL, BSD etc" and keep the other hundred in the same more general category.
Call it "OSI core" or something, i think "core" is trendy these days.
So let me get a grasp on this..
You say Buisness is art, and economics is science.
So therefore; universities should transfer the buisness subjects to the art department with the exception of economics which should go to the science department.
I think you need to go outside and talk to some real people.
From wikipedia
"Like most memory card formats, SD is covered by numerous patents and trademarks, and licensing is only available through the Secure Digital Card Association. The SD Card Association's current licensing agreement does not allow for open-source SD drivers, a fact that generates a fair amount of consternation in the open-source and free software communities. The usual workaround is to develop an open-source wrapper for a closed-source SD driver available on the particular platform, but this is far from ideal. Another common workaround is to use the older MMC mode, which all SD cards are required to support by the SD standard."
"This means that SD is less open than CompactFlash or USB flash memory drives, which can be implemented for free but require licensing fees for the associated logos and trademarks, but far more open than xD or Memory Stick, where no public documentation nor any documented legacy implementation is available."
"If you don't have a device that uses the security features (nearly all of them), then it just works like any other flash device would."
You mean it works as an mmc card, you can get open source mmc drivers, not open source sd drivers.