If you're running a business of public accommodation (that is, a business open to the public), then you cannot legally refuse service to a customer solely because that customer is in a protected class.
So, Cloudflare does NOT run a business of public accommodation, then? And political speech IS a protected class - it's called the First Amendment. Or are "some animals more equal than others"?
So - Cloudflare is NOT a commercial business? Or - since they are - they must provide their services to individuals with different political leanings (which is what the original intent of the First Amendment was - protection of poltical speech)?
Cool! So only taxpayers get the right to vote! I'm cool with that. Unless your 1040 shows an actual paid income tax - you do not get the right to vote. Great idea, MM!
What is a living wage? What is a living wage in San Francisco, or Manhattan, or McAllen, TX? How do you set a national "living wage" that makes sense? Even the cost of living within a few hour drive can be dramatic, Making $50,000 in San Francisco is the same as making $20,000 in Fresno, just a 3 hour drive away. So how do you set a living wage?
Unions in Europe also tend to be much more rational than ones in the US. In the US they are often all about making union leadership richer, and using the members to get ahead. For example, the IAM (machinist's union) which tends to strike at Boeing every 3-4 years. Boeing holds out just long enough so, when they give in to union demands for a 4% or 5% increase over the next few years, they've already saved enough wages not paid to the striking workers to offset that strike. Yet the union leadership demands and pushes for that strike every single chance they get - and use it to increase dues and raise their own salaries (which are quite high, most qualifying as being in the top 1%).
At the low end of the scale, workers tend to pay nearly zero income tax (source). They pay SSI/FICA, but not income tax. And the cost of welfare/unemployment for those now-displaced workers is probably well offsets the increase in income tax of those bottom 20%. Income tax on $2,000 per year, at the bottom end of the tax brackets, is about 3.5% - meaning about $70 in extra income tax per worker, per year. Assuming $20,000 in unemployment benefits, it would take nearly 300 workers to offset the costs to support one unemployed worker.
Hmmm... Zimbabwe fell apart after Mugabe nationalized much of the economy. Pinochet created the Miracle of Chile when he specifically privated most of the nation-owned industries and implemented the free market concepts of Friedman and others, Mexico is highly communist (much like China, in that the State owns the biggest industries). Seems that the failures are all in line with Venezuela - when the Government ends up dictating and controlling the economy - it pretty much stumbles and falls.
China didn't automate for a LONG time because wages were cheaper than robots. Vietnam has not automated because labor is cheaper than robots - or labor in China. If there's no economic pressure on wages, there's precious little reason to automate many jobs. Cheaper to hire 30 people instead of buying 3 robots. Literally.
The ones who are trying to "stop" those few thousand "storm front fags" on college campuses are the ones using brownshirt tactics.. The "SJW/social justice/Antifa" movement looks no different than the early Nazi party, it's just the target of their hate is different. Same tactics, same Machiavellian attitude towards themselves, same unwavering demand in 100% ideological adherence with zero dissent allowed. Enforced by violent means.
But a baker is not free to choose not to make a commissioned, custom cake for a marriage they don't support. Right? Companies are free to discriminate only for certain targets...
Energy density. Zinc air batteries are 5-10X the energy density of other chemistries. It's really the only reasonable way to do a CIC hearing aid with more than 24 hours of run-time.
No, they both are fascist, just their central tenet is different. Both want complete State control of the economy, believe "might IS right" - violence to get their ends, and both demand an authoritarian "our view is the only one you can have". The view is different, but that is not the part of fascism that is actively projected on to others, it's simply the justification for their actions.
If the Nazis targeted left handed people, or those who use calculus instead of the Jews they would still have been as murderous and loathsome as they sent lefties or math professors to the gas chambers. It wasn't the target of their anger that made them horrendous - it was the way they acted out on it. The target was used as a focal point for the Nazis, to channel their anger at someone.
Much like the fascists in Antifa and BLM - they use their own targets to channel their hate and give "justification" for their fascist actions. They are Nazis, just with a different target group, one based strictly on ideology rather than a genetic trait.
We've reached the point where the left, as personified by Antifa and BLM, feels that it is completely justified in using violence to simply shut down others' speech. There was another group in the 1930s that came to power in Germany who did the same thing...
And that is the problem with the modern political left - it's about the messenger, not the message. Classic liberals like Alan Dershowitz or the ACLU were at least freedom loving; there was an actual belief in honoring the concepts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Modern liberals have become the fascists they rail against. And they will use marginalization, the politics of personal destruction (starting with the personal demonization of USSC nominee Robert Bork), and the powers of Government to push their fascist viewpoints. Modern US liberals are anything but tolerance and inclusive - they are divisive and exclusionary and demand ideological purity above all else.
Actually, they are - Snopes simply says it wasn't from New Orleans, but NY City. And says it "probably" wasn't the BLM group - but who else was it, your peaceful GOP members?
Here's another video of Antifa calling for dead cops. But you keep on defending that - it's not hate speech, right?
And therein shows the hypocrisy as Kennedy espoused. The First Amendment was specifically written about political speech and freedom of association, and it's been twisted to demand freedom of everything but those - you can only say what the State dictates, and you must associate with people the State decides.
They've been slowly disappearing over the last few decades of ignoring them. But hey, why not throw international light on them, stir up the pot, and give them attention to get their message out even wider and see if they can attract more members! Maybe they will even go back and partner up again with the Nation of Islam and both go and attack the Jews!
It's been incorporated against the States, and logically against municipalities as well. The entire Bill of Rights is an individual right and has been incorporated so it covers all levels of government.
Doesn't swing that way if you don't want to bake a cake, which is a standard offering of bakers. Why would hosts be exempt from being forced to host websites, given that hosting is their standard offering?
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Apples and oranges.
If you're running a business of public accommodation (that is, a business open to the public), then you cannot legally refuse service to a customer solely because that customer is in a protected class.
So, Cloudflare does NOT run a business of public accommodation, then? And political speech IS a protected class - it's called the First Amendment. Or are "some animals more equal than others"?
So - Cloudflare is NOT a commercial business? Or - since they are - they must provide their services to individuals with different political leanings (which is what the original intent of the First Amendment was - protection of poltical speech)?
Cool! So only taxpayers get the right to vote! I'm cool with that. Unless your 1040 shows an actual paid income tax - you do not get the right to vote. Great idea, MM!
What is a living wage? What is a living wage in San Francisco, or Manhattan, or McAllen, TX? How do you set a national "living wage" that makes sense? Even the cost of living within a few hour drive can be dramatic, Making $50,000 in San Francisco is the same as making $20,000 in Fresno, just a 3 hour drive away. So how do you set a living wage?
Unions in Europe also tend to be much more rational than ones in the US. In the US they are often all about making union leadership richer, and using the members to get ahead. For example, the IAM (machinist's union) which tends to strike at Boeing every 3-4 years. Boeing holds out just long enough so, when they give in to union demands for a 4% or 5% increase over the next few years, they've already saved enough wages not paid to the striking workers to offset that strike. Yet the union leadership demands and pushes for that strike every single chance they get - and use it to increase dues and raise their own salaries (which are quite high, most qualifying as being in the top 1%).
At the low end of the scale, workers tend to pay nearly zero income tax (source). They pay SSI/FICA, but not income tax. And the cost of welfare/unemployment for those now-displaced workers is probably well offsets the increase in income tax of those bottom 20%. Income tax on $2,000 per year, at the bottom end of the tax brackets, is about 3.5% - meaning about $70 in extra income tax per worker, per year. Assuming $20,000 in unemployment benefits, it would take nearly 300 workers to offset the costs to support one unemployed worker.
Hmmm... Zimbabwe fell apart after Mugabe nationalized much of the economy. Pinochet created the Miracle of Chile when he specifically privated most of the nation-owned industries and implemented the free market concepts of Friedman and others, Mexico is highly communist (much like China, in that the State owns the biggest industries). Seems that the failures are all in line with Venezuela - when the Government ends up dictating and controlling the economy - it pretty much stumbles and falls.
China didn't automate for a LONG time because wages were cheaper than robots. Vietnam has not automated because labor is cheaper than robots - or labor in China. If there's no economic pressure on wages, there's precious little reason to automate many jobs. Cheaper to hire 30 people instead of buying 3 robots. Literally.
The ones who are trying to "stop" those few thousand "storm front fags" on college campuses are the ones using brownshirt tactics.. The "SJW/social justice/Antifa" movement looks no different than the early Nazi party, it's just the target of their hate is different. Same tactics, same Machiavellian attitude towards themselves, same unwavering demand in 100% ideological adherence with zero dissent allowed. Enforced by violent means.
But a baker is not free to choose not to make a commissioned, custom cake for a marriage they don't support. Right? Companies are free to discriminate only for certain targets...
Energy density. Zinc air batteries are 5-10X the energy density of other chemistries. It's really the only reasonable way to do a CIC hearing aid with more than 24 hours of run-time.
No, they both are fascist, just their central tenet is different. Both want complete State control of the economy, believe "might IS right" - violence to get their ends, and both demand an authoritarian "our view is the only one you can have". The view is different, but that is not the part of fascism that is actively projected on to others, it's simply the justification for their actions.
If the Nazis targeted left handed people, or those who use calculus instead of the Jews they would still have been as murderous and loathsome as they sent lefties or math professors to the gas chambers. It wasn't the target of their anger that made them horrendous - it was the way they acted out on it. The target was used as a focal point for the Nazis, to channel their anger at someone.
Much like the fascists in Antifa and BLM - they use their own targets to channel their hate and give "justification" for their fascist actions. They are Nazis, just with a different target group, one based strictly on ideology rather than a genetic trait.
+1000000 Internets!
Or just A pillars when the top is down...;)
No, this is an assault on human beings and should be stopped. Violent "Antifa" (in fact, pro-fascist-as-long-as-it-is-their-brand-of-fascism) thugs attacking a reporter for simply video recording their violent protest.
We've reached the point where the left, as personified by Antifa and BLM, feels that it is completely justified in using violence to simply shut down others' speech. There was another group in the 1930s that came to power in Germany who did the same thing...
And that is the problem with the modern political left - it's about the messenger, not the message. Classic liberals like Alan Dershowitz or the ACLU were at least freedom loving; there was an actual belief in honoring the concepts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Modern liberals have become the fascists they rail against. And they will use marginalization, the politics of personal destruction (starting with the personal demonization of USSC nominee Robert Bork), and the powers of Government to push their fascist viewpoints. Modern US liberals are anything but tolerance and inclusive - they are divisive and exclusionary and demand ideological purity above all else.
Actually, they are - Snopes simply says it wasn't from New Orleans, but NY City. And says it "probably" wasn't the BLM group - but who else was it, your peaceful GOP members?
Here's another video of Antifa calling for dead cops. But you keep on defending that - it's not hate speech, right?
And therein shows the hypocrisy as Kennedy espoused. The First Amendment was specifically written about political speech and freedom of association, and it's been twisted to demand freedom of everything but those - you can only say what the State dictates, and you must associate with people the State decides.
Now who's the fascist?
Nazi: racial purity. Antifa/BLM: ideological purity. Both hate diversity - and both turn to violence to get their message across.
They've been slowly disappearing over the last few decades of ignoring them. But hey, why not throw international light on them, stir up the pot, and give them attention to get their message out even wider and see if they can attract more members! Maybe they will even go back and partner up again with the Nation of Islam and both go and attack the Jews!
Then we have thousands who should be tried for every murder of a police officer in the last year, right?
It's been incorporated against the States, and logically against municipalities as well. The entire Bill of Rights is an individual right and has been incorporated so it covers all levels of government.
Doesn't swing that way if you don't want to bake a cake, which is a standard offering of bakers. Why would hosts be exempt from being forced to host websites, given that hosting is their standard offering?
Does the First Amendment (freedom of association) also protect who I choose to do business with?
What US law prohibits "hate" speech? The US Supreme Court has been quite consistent that "hate" speech is still protected speech.