I guess a lot of us picked it up in school, but arrogance seems to be part of the UNIX tradition. I'd even say that it's more of a hinderance to the mainstream acceptance of Linux than any of the perceived shortcomings of the software itself.
If we're going to get more people using Linux, then we're going to have to quit calling them clueless!
Having everyone vote defeats the purpose of moderation. People who post "first!" probably like reading that stuff.:-)
It also reduces the higher level settings to reflect popular opinion instead of good, well written posts that might express opinions and views unpoplar with the majority of posters.
Using a purely democratic approach allows the majority to push valid but unpopular opinions to the bottom. There are Apple and BSD users who read this site, and I wouldn't want to see their views discounted any more than they already are.
something like 'and if a man lies with another man as if he were a woman, it is an abomination', and somewhere nearby it recounts how such 'abominations' should be stoned.
I remember that now that you mention it.
Why -- because you only remember the 'nice' parts, and ignore the atrocities that god commands?.. or is it because you think that believing that horrible book makes you have gotten more out of it'..
I don't trust Ransom Love or Caldera as far as I could throw them. What have they really done for the free software movement?
They wrote the PPP and IPX stuff for Linux.
I find myself defending Caldera on an increasingly regular basis. This isn't because I like their distro so much as I dislike all the FUD _within_ the Linux community. FUD is FUD, whether it comes from MS or an AC.
BTW, I'm not singling you aout in particular, but I had to post this somewhere.:-)
Red Hat has been misquoted by ZD before, so I wouldn't take this article to be the last word on their lack of support for the LSB. I hope it's not true, anyway.
Why doesn't Informix run well in Caldera? Because Caldera is running totally out of date, bug-ridden libraries.
I assume you're referring to libc5. They are out of date, but they aren't "bug ridden". They used (past tense, so this post isn't out of date by the end of the month...) them because they're stable. A bug (unintended program behavior) is not the same as a missing feature (thread support).
KDE has Bernd Wuebben; the guy has all the charisma of a horse's ass.
I'm sure he appreciates that.:-|
Anyway, it may be good in the long run that the press doesn't focus on a personality for KDE; that way thy may be forced to write something more substantial than "KDE/GNOME/whatever has little icons just like windows". Oh brother...
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You're right. It seems that at least one moderator is voting instead of moderating.:-|
I don't mean to get in to a philosophical argument here, but how would programmers expect to make a living if everything they coded was given away for free?
Different people in the community have different views on this; it's not really possible to toss them all into the same "free software" bin. RMS is from the "all software must be free" camp, but some of us have more moderate views. IMO the real issue here is: Am I going to spend a significant amount of time working on code that Apple can take away from me? I think a lot of people would be happy with the license if a few of the grey areas were clarified a bit more.
I used display doctor several years ago to play duke nukem 3d, and it is a good product. I'm sure that scitech has nothing but good intentions, and they they're not trying to subvert linux in any way.
but...
I have to agree, system components should be open source. binary-only system components leave the door open for a single individual or company to exercise undue control over their users.
I have nothing against commercial "closed source" software. I write it for a living, and I intend to do so for some time. I don't mind paying money for commercial software either. It's not about money, it's about freedom.
They gave Yast a non-free license so poeple couldn't just copy their cd's or make suse-based distributions easily.
Is that really true? I've seen $1.98 SuSE CDs at Linux Mall, so they're must be some way around it. In any case, a setup/configuration tool is a relatively minor thing, and is easily replaced.
Maybe it's a necessary step in the Linux evolution, but it worries me to see the lazy, freeloading socialists trying to squeeze out everything they can.
So, yes to Internet taxes, if it means that other taxes will go down, because it is a fair tax.
Not likely. Taxes rarely go down.
And no, it's not fair.
Here in the US we get taxed on our taxes. We pay taxes on our income, and then turn around and get taxed again when we spend THE SAME MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TAXED. Whether this is legal or not is a subject of some debate, but it's certainly _wrong_. Anyone with one eye and half a brain can see that, if they're honest. But we put up with it.
Why do we put up with it?
The sad thing is, most of the world is just as bad or worse than the US.
Something is messed up here -- I seem to have my name attached to stuff I didn't post. If you read thru this thread, you'll even find me arguing with myself.:-)
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If we're going to get more people using Linux, then we're going to have to quit calling them clueless!
TedC
It also reduces the higher level settings to reflect popular opinion instead of good, well written posts that might express opinions and views unpoplar with the majority of posters.
TedC
Using a purely democratic approach allows the majority to push valid but unpopular opinions to the bottom. There are Apple and BSD users who read this site, and I wouldn't want to see their views discounted any more than they already are.
TedC
I remember that now that you mention it.
Why -- because you only remember the 'nice' parts, and ignore the atrocities that god commands?.. or is it because you think that believing that horrible book makes you have gotten more out of it'..
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I never heard about that one.
There are large sections of the old testement that I have never read, so unless someone put it in a movie I might not know about it. :-)
Need more examples, or are we done with quizzing?
That will due for now. :-)
TedC
BTW, I can't help thinking that I got more out of what I did read than you did.
Who parted the Red Sea?
a) Moses
b) Aaron
c) Cecil B. DeMills
d) Kansas City
I work for a large retailer, and we're running one of the largest customer databases in the world on Solaris and Oracle. It's rock solid.
TedC
I read somewhere that Red Hat is paying a couple of programmers to help with Qt 2.0, so it shouldn't be an issue this time around.
They wrote the PPP and IPX stuff for Linux.
I find myself defending Caldera on an increasingly regular basis. This isn't because I like their distro so much as I dislike all the FUD _within_ the Linux community. FUD is FUD, whether it comes from MS or an AC.
BTW, I'm not singling you aout in particular, but I had to post this somewhere. :-)
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I assume you're referring to libc5. They are out of date, but they aren't "bug ridden". They used (past tense, so this post isn't out of date by the end of the month...) them because they're stable. A bug (unintended program behavior) is not the same as a missing feature (thread support).
TedC
I'm sure he appreciates that. :-|
Anyway, it may be good in the long run that the press doesn't focus on a personality for KDE; that way thy may be forced to write something more substantial than "KDE/GNOME/whatever has little icons just like windows". Oh brother...
TedC
TedC
Different people in the community have different views on this; it's not really possible to toss them all into the same "free software" bin. RMS is from the "all software must be free" camp, but some of us have more moderate views. IMO the real issue here is: Am I going to spend a significant amount of time working on code that Apple can take away from me? I think a lot of people would be happy with the license if a few of the grey areas were clarified a bit more.
TedC
I used display doctor several years ago to play duke nukem 3d, and it is a good product. I'm sure that scitech has nothing but good intentions, and they they're not trying to subvert linux in any way.
but...
I have to agree, system components should be open source. binary-only system components leave the door open for a single individual or company to exercise undue control over their users.
I have nothing against commercial "closed source" software. I write it for a living, and I intend to do so for some time. I don't mind paying money for commercial software either. It's not about money, it's about freedom.
TedC
Is that really true? I've seen $1.98 SuSE CDs at Linux Mall, so they're must be some way around it. In any case, a setup/configuration tool is a relatively minor thing, and is easily replaced.
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Some of the utils like Yast (and maybe Caldera Lizard?) have additional restrictions, but all of the important stuff (kernel, compiler, etc.) is free.
BTW, I really like that yellow graphic on the SuSE 6.1 box; hopefully they'll update their t-shirts to match. :-)
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What crap are you referring to? The article seems pretty positive to me.
I had sort of given up on Caldera, but after reading about OpenLinux 2.2 I decided to give them another try. LIZARD sounds cool!
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Well, I don't know about opinions, but it should be obvious that a person's thoughts and ideas are expressed in the software they write.
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So you're making proprietory comments about free software? that's funny!
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Not likely. Taxes rarely go down.
And no, it's not fair.
Here in the US we get taxed on our taxes. We pay taxes on our income, and then turn around and get taxed again when we spend THE SAME MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TAXED. Whether this is legal or not is a subject of some debate, but it's certainly _wrong_. Anyone with one eye and half a brain can see that, if they're honest. But we put up with it.
Why do we put up with it?
The sad thing is, most of the world is just as bad or worse than the US.
TedC
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