That's because they eiher sucked, or only stopped sucking after it was too late. A pretty impressive feat to be outdone by the shit microsoft was pushing out.
If you really want to be pedantic, then yes, Python is an interpreted programming language and a python program is not, for example, an ELF file. However, for the scope of this conversation explaining the difference between RPMs and yum, the presense of an exectutable bit and pythons interpreted nature make it perfectly reasonable to call them executables. In fact, it is not at all uncommon to refer to scripts as executables in nearly any situation.
All of this is irrelevant to the topic at hand though and I suggest you attempt removing the stick from your ass.
You seem a little confused. Yum is a package manager, used primarily by redhat based distros. It *is* an executable, however there is not much to exploit, you don't "download and install a yum". Similarly, rpm is a program that is located on the host machine already. Alternatively you may have been refering to RPM packages which are not in fact executables but rather packages which rpm (the program previously mentioned) uses to install software. You could package malicious software in an RPM and have the user install it, though I must say that would be an impressive bit of social engineering, requiring the user to not only know what they are doing, but to not know enough to know better. Deb files are similar to RPM files (ie, not exectubles). "sh" as you call it, otherwise know as shell scripts, are in fact executables and would be the method I'd expect malware for linux to be spread. However, shell scripts are interpreted (by the shell, think batch files in windows/dos) and are thus easily inspected.
Truthfully though, I think the greatest defense linux users have against malware is the community aspect that has grown up around it. The community contains enough advanced users to recognize and identify any threats and average linux users are unlikely to run/install things they come across on their own.
I can personally attest that with a little social engineering, it is quite easy to get unprivileged acess to a computer long enough to do exactly that (though in my case I created an alias for sudo in ~/.bashrc It was an ubuntu installation after all. Granted, with social engineering anything is possible, but it was fun nevertheless.
Unlike you, some of use actually have a basic understanding of the KDE projects numbering system. Why in the world would you base your assumptions concerning general readiness off of a version number if you are not familiar with how/why those numbers are assigned? How could you honestly expect there to not be regressions from 3.5.x to 4.0.0? Give be a fucking break and quit bitching about the past.
Every try it? Works pretty well. In highschool whenever we'd do archery we would shoot at targets that had a tight mesh (not a silk or anything;)) curtain backdrop. Granted, we weren't using real heavy bows or anything but they physics of it makes sense if you think about it. The curtain is hanging relatively loose to it has a lot of give, slows the arrow down slowly.
Honestly, that comment doesn't make much sense, Thomson would argue the opposite (regardless of the facts). Furthermore, I think sarcism is a bit above him.
Amen sir, I couldn't say it better myself. I'm absolutely sick of people who just can't seem to understand that not all of us have a proprietary attitude towards software. No I don't care about "beating" Microsoft in any sort of capitalistic sense, I just like using good software.
Believe it or not, not every author that chooses the GNU GPL does so for religious or political reasons. Personally I choose it because I'm a selvish basterd who wants to keep control of my code. I believe Linus Torvalds is on the record for saying that he chose it for practical reasons. Please stop clumping us together with wackjobs like RMS.
Good thing I live at "1234 Main Street" in LA at zipcode 12345.
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"People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all that shite, which is not to be ignored, but what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. After all, we're not fucking stupid. At least, we're not that fucking stupid."
Mark Renton from Trainspotting on why we bash microsoft.
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You have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Just thought I'd let you know.
That's because they eiher sucked, or only stopped sucking after it was too late. A pretty impressive feat to be outdone by the shit microsoft was pushing out.
Canada. Everyone know's it is their fault anyways.
I kid, I kid...
What a superb rebuttal! Truly now I see the error in my logic, thank you for your great insight.
If you really want to be pedantic, then yes, Python is an interpreted programming language and a python program is not, for example, an ELF file. However, for the scope of this conversation explaining the difference between RPMs and yum, the presense of an exectutable bit and pythons interpreted nature make it perfectly reasonable to call them executables. In fact, it is not at all uncommon to refer to scripts as executables in nearly any situation. All of this is irrelevant to the topic at hand though and I suggest you attempt removing the stick from your ass.
It may not be compiled machine code, but it IS an executable. Check to see that it has the executable bit set yourself.
You seem a little confused. Yum is a package manager, used primarily by redhat based distros. It *is* an executable, however there is not much to exploit, you don't "download and install a yum". Similarly, rpm is a program that is located on the host machine already. Alternatively you may have been refering to RPM packages which are not in fact executables but rather packages which rpm (the program previously mentioned) uses to install software. You could package malicious software in an RPM and have the user install it, though I must say that would be an impressive bit of social engineering, requiring the user to not only know what they are doing, but to not know enough to know better. Deb files are similar to RPM files (ie, not exectubles). "sh" as you call it, otherwise know as shell scripts, are in fact executables and would be the method I'd expect malware for linux to be spread. However, shell scripts are interpreted (by the shell, think batch files in windows/dos) and are thus easily inspected.
Truthfully though, I think the greatest defense linux users have against malware is the community aspect that has grown up around it. The community contains enough advanced users to recognize and identify any threats and average linux users are unlikely to run/install things they come across on their own.
Proprietary standards are not standards.
Fuck. Yes.
Any other questions?
Gmail has had POP since the very beginning, or at least as long as I can remember.
But politically they are certainly in the same ballpark.
-Resident of Philly
Why should he change his name? He's not the one who sucks!
I can personally attest that with a little social engineering, it is quite easy to get unprivileged acess to a computer long enough to do exactly that (though in my case I created an alias for sudo in ~/.bashrc It was an ubuntu installation after all. Granted, with social engineering anything is possible, but it was fun nevertheless.
Unlike you, some of use actually have a basic understanding of the KDE projects numbering system. Why in the world would you base your assumptions concerning general readiness off of a version number if you are not familiar with how/why those numbers are assigned? How could you honestly expect there to not be regressions from 3.5.x to 4.0.0? Give be a fucking break and quit bitching about the past.
Over here in York it's not much better I'm afraid. It really is nice in more populus areas like Philly though.
Personally, I don't see why we need any more justification for shooting deer than how damn good they taste. :)
Every try it? Works pretty well. In highschool whenever we'd do archery we would shoot at targets that had a tight mesh (not a silk or anything ;)) curtain backdrop. Granted, we weren't using real heavy bows or anything but they physics of it makes sense if you think about it. The curtain is hanging relatively loose to it has a lot of give, slows the arrow down slowly.
Honestly, that comment doesn't make much sense, Thomson would argue the opposite (regardless of the facts). Furthermore, I think sarcism is a bit above him.
No, the MOST efficient way to travel would obviously be down a perfectly smooth road, with a bunch of kids bouncing up and down in the back!
Amen sir, I couldn't say it better myself. I'm absolutely sick of people who just can't seem to understand that not all of us have a proprietary attitude towards software. No I don't care about "beating" Microsoft in any sort of capitalistic sense, I just like using good software.
Believe it or not, not every author that chooses the GNU GPL does so for religious or political reasons. Personally I choose it because I'm a selvish basterd who wants to keep control of my code. I believe Linus Torvalds is on the record for saying that he chose it for practical reasons. Please stop clumping us together with wackjobs like RMS.
If you are confused by choices, perhaps you should just stick to windows and not worry about it.
Good thing I live at "1234 Main Street" in LA at zipcode 12345.
"People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all that shite, which is not to be ignored, but what they forget is the pleasure of it. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. After all, we're not fucking stupid. At least, we're not that fucking stupid."
Mark Renton from Trainspotting on why we bash microsoft.
My impression was the battery pack was good for about 8 hours *of talking time*. I may be wrong though.