If it was administered via the Gov't, it wouldn't really be capitalistic in nature would it? America is far from capitalism. Its quasi-capitalistic. But that is good. I sure as hell wouldn't want to pay a toll everytime I turned onto another street.
one saying comes to mind: "if you want it done right, do it yourself." All my friends use SWAT for samba administration, but none of them understand the smb.conf file. By going through that stuff, you learn it. I can see the benefit of bundled HW/SW to guarantee compatibility, but I'd just reinstall it when i got it, to make sure its installed like i want it.
If you want to get "real work" done, you should set it up yourself and make sure its right. sure it not as fast as other setups, but how often do have to mess with it now? easy...I don't.
Something like this would be good for more options, as long as it stays optional.
Remember when Linux was small and it was run by people? Before all the IPO crazyness, the shelves full of distributions, and all the crazy hype? Now look at which free *nix's still keep a small and tight distribution. RedHat, you'd think they invented the buffer overflow. Mandrake, wait. i already mentioned RedHat. Corel, windows with a linux kernel. riiiight. SuSe, not even gonna comment. FreeBSD, not yet. but its bound to end up like those above.
so whats left? Slackware, Debian, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and a handful of others. Sure the big distro's are pushing free *nix forward, but why'd we start it all in the first place? To have a unix-like system that everyone could get. Not to sell out to the big companies, not to sell t-shirts, not to sell mugs or shot glasses either. Microsoft was a little grass roots company once too. So i'm not too happy for all these buy-outs and mergers. You're supposed to make companies, not buy them. You're supposed to beat the competiton, not buy them. blah blah. im done
Only FreeBSD has SMP, but the others are working on it as we speak. I agree with the bloatware statement. When i first tried Linux...i used RedHat. My dumb newbie ass installed everything and had everything run on startup. scary isn't it. I can fit a full OpenBSD install on a 250 hard drive with 32megs of swap and still have enough space for a few mp3's.
oh yea...one more thing. I can move from *BSD to *BSD without as much hassle. They pretty much follow the same format for config files, etc. Moving from RedHat to Slack to Debian....they're entirely different in terms of setup.
on a sidenote...I tried OpenBSD because it was the only "free" *nix that i could find that supported my isa pnp nic cards and had a ftp install. I got scsi cards that only it can see, I have scsi cards that only slack can see...
OpenBSD makes the best NAT (ip_masq for my linux brethren) box, but Slackware makes a great Desktop box. blah blah yackity smackity. If you don't get the point by now, you probably won't. so i'll shaddup.
well since redhat has a root exploit a week... I'll stick with my "3 years without a remote root exploit" OpenBSD.
Hotmail runs of FreeBSD. ftp.cdrom.com runs of FreeBSD. many ISP's run FreeBSD.
NetBSD works on everything. yes EVERYTHING.
there are a gazillion linux distributions out now, but i only know of 3 that support sparc. OpenBSD and NetBSD support Sparc...
Linux has it strong points though. Slack is a tight distro, and its the closest to Unix that I know of.
Linux makes a great desktop OS and has many more applications that *BSD lacks. But seriously...No linux distro has such a focus like OpenBSD's security, FreeBSD's scalability, or NetBSD's portability. FreeBSD isn't as secure as Open or Net, it only supports x86 and alpha, but its the only one with SMP at the moment. Do you see the strengths and weaknesses im pointing out? if you do...
...*BSD has its uses, just like BeOS has its uses, as well as Linux. The BOTTOM LINE is that one isn't "better" than the other...its which one is best suited for the job. even RedHat has a use...its good for newbies who don't want to jump straight into full blown *nix.
echo "Marijuana is bad. Marijuana causes blindness. Marijuana makes you insane. Marijuana is communism. It is illegal. Only street punks and communist use marijuana. Buying, using, selling and even looking at Marijuana is bad, immoral, illegal, and clearly an abomination against our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." > stuff
I installed OpenBSD over the phone for a friend and then ssh'ed into his box and had NAT setup (including dhcpd) in 15 minutes. All he had to do was plug the 1st nic into the cable modem, and the other into the hub. No need to install X or anything, just keep it small. BTW, I remember playing with RH 6.1 and i told it not to install KDE or GNOME (just use enlightenment duh) and it still installed GNOME. Stupid RH
I Still use my old #9 128bit PCI video card. I remember it was the first 128bit out and it had an amazing 4 megs of video ram!!!! And even back then, it got 1600x1200 at 16.7K and 72Khz. I can't deal with anything below 1600x1200. Its a pain.
that would rock, but why Bash? I use bash for my shell, but try to avoid it for cgi since it uses so much memory and cpu compared to other shells. I did make a nice web-based RDBMS with/bin/sh scripts. Sure its pretty simple, but it does what i need it to and rather quick at that.
Actually a national speedlimit was established during the Carter administration since it is the most fuel efficient speed. err it was a referendum. Damn i remembered that and im drunk wow.
You seem to be a very interesting person with fresh and insightful views of the world around us. Any other time than friday night before finals i would comment seriously. But tonite is the friday before finals.
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If it was administered via the Gov't, it wouldn't really be capitalistic in nature would it? America is far from capitalism. Its quasi-capitalistic. But that is good. I sure as hell wouldn't want to pay a toll everytime I turned onto another street.
sheesh? You didn't even mention slashdot's ties with the Illuminati.
Now if they can just get food.
BSD is better than Linux :) who needs to claim?
one saying comes to mind: "if you want it done right, do it yourself." All my friends use SWAT for samba administration, but none of them understand the smb.conf file. By going through that stuff, you learn it. I can see the benefit of bundled HW/SW to guarantee compatibility, but I'd just reinstall it when i got it, to make sure its installed like i want it.
If you want to get "real work" done, you should set it up yourself and make sure its right. sure it not as fast as other setups, but how often do have to mess with it now? easy...I don't.
Something like this would be good for more options, as long as it stays optional.
Thats my point. OpenBSD doesn't have guys in suits. no VP's there.
Remember when Linux was small and it was run by people? Before all the IPO crazyness, the shelves full of distributions, and all the crazy hype?
Now look at which free *nix's still keep a small and tight distribution.
RedHat, you'd think they invented the buffer overflow.
Mandrake, wait. i already mentioned RedHat.
Corel, windows with a linux kernel. riiiight.
SuSe, not even gonna comment.
FreeBSD, not yet. but its bound to end up like those above.
so whats left? Slackware, Debian, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and a handful of others.
Sure the big distro's are pushing free *nix forward, but why'd we start it all in the first place? To have a unix-like system that everyone could get. Not to sell out to the big companies, not to sell t-shirts, not to sell mugs or shot glasses either. Microsoft was a little grass roots company once too. So i'm not too happy for all these buy-outs and mergers. You're supposed to make companies, not buy them. You're supposed to beat the competiton, not buy them. blah blah. im done
Only FreeBSD has SMP, but the others are working on it as we speak. I agree with the bloatware statement. When i first tried Linux...i used RedHat. My dumb newbie ass installed everything and had everything run on startup. scary isn't it. I can fit a full OpenBSD install on a 250 hard drive with 32megs of swap and still have enough space for a few mp3's.
oh yea...one more thing. I can move from *BSD to *BSD without as much hassle. They pretty much follow the same format for config files, etc. Moving from RedHat to Slack to Debian....they're entirely different in terms of setup.
on a sidenote...I tried OpenBSD because it was the only "free" *nix that i could find that supported my isa pnp nic cards and had a ftp install. I got scsi cards that only it can see, I have scsi cards that only slack can see...
OpenBSD makes the best NAT (ip_masq for my linux brethren) box, but Slackware makes a great Desktop box. blah blah yackity smackity. If you don't get the point by now, you probably won't. so i'll shaddup.
well since redhat has a root exploit a week... I'll stick with my "3 years without a remote root exploit" OpenBSD.
Hotmail runs of FreeBSD.
ftp.cdrom.com runs of FreeBSD.
many ISP's run FreeBSD.
NetBSD works on everything.
yes EVERYTHING.
there are a gazillion linux distributions out now, but i only know of 3 that support sparc. OpenBSD and NetBSD support Sparc...
Linux has it strong points though. Slack is a tight distro, and its the closest to Unix that I know of.
Linux makes a great desktop OS and has many more applications that *BSD lacks. But seriously...No linux distro has such a focus like OpenBSD's security, FreeBSD's scalability, or NetBSD's portability.
FreeBSD isn't as secure as Open or Net, it only supports x86 and alpha, but its the only one with SMP at the moment. Do you see the strengths and weaknesses im pointing out? if you do...
...*BSD has its uses, just like BeOS has its uses, as well as Linux. The BOTTOM LINE is that one isn't "better" than the other...its which one is best suited for the job. even RedHat has a use...its good for newbies who don't want to jump straight into full blown *nix.
oh yea =) i forgot that one. cat stuff | sed /"marijuana"/"microsoft"/g this makes posting so much easier.
If "they" sell those for $300 a piece first, it'll be quite an innovation.
:)
Else it will be Satan and all his free lovin' *nix followers.
Innovation...Piracy...same thing
In a recent press release, Micheal Jackson calls all the Napster users "freaks". He then left with his chimp, "bubbles", to go find a day care.
Milli Vanilli sues Mp3.com
the ever so popular music groups is claiming that mp3.com is pretending to provide original music, but in reality says that mp3.com is a fake.
They can sue Napster and Private Citizens for stealing music?!?!
How do they explain Puff Daddy?
echo "Marijuana is bad. Marijuana causes blindness. Marijuana makes you insane. Marijuana is communism. It is illegal. Only street punks and communist use marijuana. Buying, using, selling and even looking at Marijuana is bad, immoral, illegal, and clearly an abomination against our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." > stuff
cat stuff | sed s/"Marijuana"/"MP3's"/g
Nice to see original arguments.
Just don't try to sell one on E-bay when they come out.
Score: 7, Informative.
Look at all the security sites....For example....RootShell.com what do they run? exactly.
OpenBSD:
Three years without a remote hole in the default install!
Two years without a localhost hole in the default install!
RedHat:
Three weeks without a remote hole in the default install!
Two weeks without a localhost hole in the default install!
Thats all im going to say.
I installed OpenBSD over the phone for a friend and then ssh'ed into his box and had NAT setup (including dhcpd) in 15 minutes. All he had to do was plug the 1st nic into the cable modem, and the other into the hub. No need to install X or anything, just keep it small. BTW, I remember playing with RH 6.1 and i told it not to install KDE or GNOME (just use enlightenment duh) and it still installed GNOME. Stupid RH
I Still use my old #9 128bit PCI video card. I remember it was the first 128bit out and it had an amazing 4 megs of video ram!!!! And even back then, it got 1600x1200 at 16.7K and 72Khz. I can't deal with anything below 1600x1200. Its a pain.
that would rock, but why Bash? I use bash for my shell, but try to avoid it for cgi since it uses so much memory and cpu compared to other shells. I did make a nice web-based RDBMS with /bin/sh scripts. Sure its pretty simple, but it does what i need it to and rather quick at that.
Actually a national speedlimit was established during the Carter administration since it is the most fuel efficient speed. err it was a referendum. Damn i remembered that and im drunk wow.
You seem to be a very interesting person with fresh and insightful views of the world around us. Any other time than friday night before finals i would comment seriously. But tonite is the friday before finals.