You can abandon Earth and die, and you can also not abandon Earth and not die (as a species). In fact, Abandoning Earth (leaving no one on Earth) seems like a faster way to die as a species than not abandoning Earth.
How can that possible be something to discuss or even research? You can never prove it, nor can you experimentally test for it.
Experimentally testing for something is almost never done in philosophy. Logic holds sway in the land of the mind. And it's quite possible to create deductive arguments from base assumptions which require no experimental observation (like "I exist"). If an ethicist discovers a purely logical formal proof that a base morality must exist (at least within humans or within human culture), then it will be as undeniable as A=A.
Junior scientists often have trouble with philosophy because empiricism is the only method of knowledge acquisition available in the scientific method. Rationalism (common in philosophy) is taught to be derided. But empiricism relies on inductive and abductive reasoning, then jumps tracks and assumes the logic was deduction for any future experiments, so it shows a potentially logically imperfect window of human knowledge (I won't even attempt to begin to explain the portions of human knowledge where logic doesn't apply).
In short, you can discuss anything without research. No issues there. And you can "research" (form rational mental constructs) abstract concepts on your couch, in the woods, at work; all without experiment.
_Everything_ in science is about models, and how accurate we think the model is. Out of necessity scientists often use verbal abbreviations, like "The sun rose this morning" as an abbreviation for "I think I saw the Sun rise this morning, and I have no evidence that my senses are wrong, therefore from occums razor I will assume that the sun did rise this morning".
But that's just to avoid being needlessly wordy - it's not a problem with science or anything.
That is a problem with the scientists. Using mental shortcuts regularly turns them into mental ruts, and soon they forget the fact that Occam's Razor is abduction, not deduction. Keeping those words in the statement is very important to someone else's understanding of the limits of the scientist's knowledge, and the possible errors in knowledge acquisition. To save words, perhaps they should use a shorthand or a footnote or maybe a postscript. They shouldn't just get rid of such important words.
And just last night I saw a Verizon commercial that insisted "Air doesn't discriminate, it carries my words, my ideas the same as anyone else's." &$@!ing liars.
Which is why the power should be randomly assigned from a pool of competent workers, and not able to be turned-down. Don't want to be a janitor? You'll have to take your chance at being forced to be CEO for a couple years just like everybody else.
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This is all about language and public perception. They start talking about you not having privacy and anonymity today so that you will just assume it is gone and not put up a fight about it tomorrow. [..., this ties in well with your next paragraph -C20]
The fact is that I have privacy and anonymity because the government lets me have it. When they decide that I can't have it anymore, they'll just take it from me and I won't have a choice. The same way the government gives you the right to own and carry a gun, until they don't give you the right. And there's nothing you can do about that, either.
The fact is that you are endowed by your creator, not the government, with certain inalienable rights. Other rights, which can be taken away, are also not given to you by the government, but are natural to men. ie Your right to bear arms is _recognized_ by the government, not provided by. Of course, the government can choose not to recognize it, but they shouldn't be allowed to make a false claim of "we gave it to you in the first place" to make the taking seem okay.
Because progressive these days is moving away from personal rights, not towards more.
"progressive" in the U.S. has always been about moving away from rights. Considering that we started out with what the framers thought was a constitution guaranteeing the the Federal Government was limited, the only "progression" would be away from that. People from other countries get confused by the way we Americans use the term "Liberal", because here it usually means "liberal interpretation of legal limits" not "classical liberty" like in Europe. This stems from the fact that our country was founded to be opposed to autocracy, and most modern European countries slowly morphed away from autocracy. "Conservatism" in Europe means holding on to old autocratic ways. "Conservatism" in the U.S. means holding on to the founder's intentions of true liberty.
Perhaps our intelligence is just something their bio engineers built in as a way to insure that most of the biomass of Sol 3 is concentrated into six billion bite sized nuggets when they swing by three billion years later. "Hey Vorb! These are great. Just pull off the head and suck out the juice. Bitchin', dude."
I don't know. OS ten sounds pretty boring to say in casual conversation. Mac OS eXtreme!, on the other hand, is a little over the top. OS X might be Goldilocks' "just right"
Nothing says "please strip search me" like wearing something that looks suspicious to the scanner. Why not just put ball bearings in your pants for the metal detector?
I am glad to see modern devices (iPhone/iPad, etc) all insert a period if you double space. Hopefully that'll fix the problem.
Like hell it will. I manually punctuate and add two spaces with my iPhone because it's the right thing to do, and we can all agree that doing the right thing helps us all. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
...there's no such thing as double spaces. Seriously, HTML doesn't support it. I can put as many spaces between sentences as I want in this message, but it won't show.
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Who said anything about abandoning earth??
I've heard of NRTFA and NRTFS, but not reading even the title? Bravo. Nay, Bravissimo!
...so easily. "Vote for my video to win me $5000" "Hmm, pay $100 to mechanical turk slaves, and I get a huge number of votes for a lead"
You can abandon Earth and die, and you can also not abandon Earth and not die (as a species). In fact, Abandoning Earth (leaving no one on Earth) seems like a faster way to die as a species than not abandoning Earth.
E-mail is pretty much dead because E-mail was being forced to do things that E-mail wasn't designed to do and was only hacked on with HTML-Email.
There was functionality of some kind with html-email? Huh. I always turned that off.
How can that possible be something to discuss or even research? You can never prove it, nor can you experimentally test for it.
Experimentally testing for something is almost never done in philosophy. Logic holds sway in the land of the mind. And it's quite possible to create deductive arguments from base assumptions which require no experimental observation (like "I exist"). If an ethicist discovers a purely logical formal proof that a base morality must exist (at least within humans or within human culture), then it will be as undeniable as A=A. Junior scientists often have trouble with philosophy because empiricism is the only method of knowledge acquisition available in the scientific method. Rationalism (common in philosophy) is taught to be derided. But empiricism relies on inductive and abductive reasoning, then jumps tracks and assumes the logic was deduction for any future experiments, so it shows a potentially logically imperfect window of human knowledge (I won't even attempt to begin to explain the portions of human knowledge where logic doesn't apply).
In short, you can discuss anything without research. No issues there. And you can "research" (form rational mental constructs) abstract concepts on your couch, in the woods, at work; all without experiment.
_Everything_ in science is about models, and how accurate we think the model is. Out of necessity scientists often use verbal abbreviations, like "The sun rose this morning" as an abbreviation for "I think I saw the Sun rise this morning, and I have no evidence that my senses are wrong, therefore from occums razor I will assume that the sun did rise this morning". But that's just to avoid being needlessly wordy - it's not a problem with science or anything.
That is a problem with the scientists. Using mental shortcuts regularly turns them into mental ruts, and soon they forget the fact that Occam's Razor is abduction, not deduction. Keeping those words in the statement is very important to someone else's understanding of the limits of the scientist's knowledge, and the possible errors in knowledge acquisition. To save words, perhaps they should use a shorthand or a footnote or maybe a postscript. They shouldn't just get rid of such important words.
When you wanna talk to your friends you don't reach for the telephone [...] you jump online.
And the @ generation fails to see the difference between the two.
Why sue bees when you could sue the big cheese? Monsanto v. God.
And just last night I saw a Verizon commercial that insisted "Air doesn't discriminate, it carries my words, my ideas the same as anyone else's." &$@!ing liars.
After he was fired, he *did* continue password protecting that network. He remained the (only) person who was.
So he was logging in and changing passwords after he was fired? If so, that's clearly hacking. If not, then it's nothing.
Nothing should be on a multi-user machine.
Then Unix shouldn't be multi-user. Somehow I think there are practical issues with that sentiment.
is called a slushy, smoothy, orange julius, or a lemon shakeup.
Which is why the power should be randomly assigned from a pool of competent workers, and not able to be turned-down. Don't want to be a janitor? You'll have to take your chance at being forced to be CEO for a couple years just like everybody else.
This idea will fly like a lead balloon.
That well, huh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2008_season)#Lead_Balloon
Some governments still don't demand it in meatspace. You'd think meatspace would be tied-down first.
This is all about language and public perception. They start talking about you not having privacy and anonymity today so that you will just assume it is gone and not put up a fight about it tomorrow. [..., this ties in well with your next paragraph -C20]
The fact is that I have privacy and anonymity because the government lets me have it. When they decide that I can't have it anymore, they'll just take it from me and I won't have a choice. The same way the government gives you the right to own and carry a gun, until they don't give you the right. And there's nothing you can do about that, either.
The fact is that you are endowed by your creator, not the government, with certain inalienable rights. Other rights, which can be taken away, are also not given to you by the government, but are natural to men. ie Your right to bear arms is _recognized_ by the government, not provided by. Of course, the government can choose not to recognize it, but they shouldn't be allowed to make a false claim of "we gave it to you in the first place" to make the taking seem okay.
Because progressive these days is moving away from personal rights, not towards more.
"progressive" in the U.S. has always been about moving away from rights. Considering that we started out with what the framers thought was a constitution guaranteeing the the Federal Government was limited, the only "progression" would be away from that. People from other countries get confused by the way we Americans use the term "Liberal", because here it usually means "liberal interpretation of legal limits" not "classical liberty" like in Europe. This stems from the fact that our country was founded to be opposed to autocracy, and most modern European countries slowly morphed away from autocracy. "Conservatism" in Europe means holding on to old autocratic ways. "Conservatism" in the U.S. means holding on to the founder's intentions of true liberty.
Class action law suite.
I know they sound they same, but I believe you meant to say: Class action law, sweet!
Perhaps our intelligence is just something their bio engineers built in as a way to insure that most of the biomass of Sol 3 is concentrated into six billion bite sized nuggets when they swing by three billion years later. "Hey Vorb! These are great. Just pull off the head and suck out the juice. Bitchin', dude."
Quick, start building a Sentience Collector!
Doctor who?
Yes.
Doctor Yes?
No.
Lameness filter new lameness: Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 3.6).
I don't know. OS ten sounds pretty boring to say in casual conversation. Mac OS eXtreme!, on the other hand, is a little over the top. OS X might be Goldilocks' "just right"
That was in "Total Recall", not "The Running Man". Please turn in your geek card.
In the running man, a person was digitally replaced with someone else while the things carried remained.
Can such fast no-trading be used by people as a communication channel?
Nothing says "please strip search me" like wearing something that looks suspicious to the scanner. Why not just put ball bearings in your pants for the metal detector?
I am glad to see modern devices (iPhone/iPad, etc) all insert a period if you double space. Hopefully that'll fix the problem.
Like hell it will. I manually punctuate and add two spaces with my iPhone because it's the right thing to do, and we can all agree that doing the right thing helps us all. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
...there's no such thing as double spaces. Seriously, HTML doesn't support it. I can put as many spaces between sentences as I want in this message, but it won't show.