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HP CEO Resigns During Sexual Harassment Investigation
A number of readers are letting us know that HP CEO Mark Hurd just resigned over sexual harassment accusations. The company's board has appointed CFO Cathie Lesjak as interim CEO. A contractor had accused Hurd of sexual harassment, and the board brought in outside counsel to investigate. While the harassment claim could not be substantiated, the investigation did uncover other misconduct. Hurd's "close personal relationship" with the contractor created a conflict of interest, and he was also found to have misused company assets. In a statement, Hurd said, "As the investigation progressed, I realized there were instances in which I did not live up to the standards and principles of trust, respect and integrity that I have espoused at HP and which have guided me throughout my career."
Sounds like a classy guy, but sadly I'm guessing this is par for the course at this level of "leadership" in most companies.
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I realized ... I did not live up to the standards and principles of trust, respect and integrity that ... have guided me throughout my career."
Clearly the principles haven't been "guiding" him to within a tolerable deviance...
He "realized there were instances" of misconduct on his part? More like he realized he'd been caught.
"As the investigation progressed, I realized there were instances in which I did not live up to the standards and principles..."
Thank goodness there was an investigation, so he could realize what he had done!
More like, at some point in the investigation he realized that he was busted and couldn't cover up or plausibly deny things. He was probably feeling pretty untouchable up to that point after coming out unscathed from the other little upset they had a while back.
Anyone else's skin crawl as they read the rehearsed and empty words? Reeks of a sociopath saying what he thinks folks want to hear to let him off the hook. Funny how many seem to make it to the top.
Amen brother, and pass the golden trough.
but sadly I'm guessing this is par for the course at this level of "leadership" in most companies.
Yeah but HP also had Carly who was forced to resign. Hopefully trouble doesn't come in 3's for HP.
**Sniff** I remember when HP was a well respected company and its equipment was built like a tank
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I wonder what kind of golden parachute the board paid to make him go away quietly?
Wasn't that before Carly?
And what info do we have on that golden parachute he will be receiving from HP?
ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
While it pains me to defend this piece of shit, the truth is that the pretexting was the handiwork of Patricia Dunn (chairwoman of HP board at the time), and the Hurd wasn't involved.
Now that the Hurd is abandonware, will HP contribute the source back tot he community?
I've been waiting for Gnu to deliver the Hurd for the last 20 years, and this might be enough to get them over the hump.
...would like their good names back, now.
After what Carly Fiorina did to H-P, and the nation, and now this tool...hell, I remember when "hp" on the logo meant the very best in quality, not scandal and treason...
Okay, so it's only the last to CEOs that I know of, but both have been ousted due to misconduct. It seems like the title is cursed to bring the person's career to a shameful end.
I wonder how much money it would have cost him to be fired versus resigning. Now would be a really good time for Wikileaks to get a copy of his employment agreement ...
I always thought the cases WERE from tanks. I could have sworn an old HPUX box I used had 8" armor-plating. It certainly felt like it when trying to move it around.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Hurd was released?!? link plz!
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Fortunately they don't produce anything important anymore like those Agilent scopes and *analyzers. So it is not like the foundation of electrical engineering would have received any cracks or so. If that would have happened to Agilent nobody would have bothered anyway.
After all, even to HP and its customers it probably won't mean much. Why do i see the same headlines on slashdot as I see on google news again?
Je me souviens.
I find it hilarious/scary that whenever a CxO gets caught doing something stupid/criminal, the defense is always ignorance. These weasels who get paid more in a day than I get paid in a year suddenly become the most oblivious, ignorant, and stupid morons in the world when they are being investigated for wrongdoing.
It wasn't until the middle of the investigation that he realized he did something wrong? *retch*
Possible scenario:
He hires a mistress / "marketing" contractor.
Takes her on "fact-finding trips" in a company jet.
Dumps her / stops paying.
She sues for "harassment."
Board figures out the real story and lets him "resign"... in the meantime, they quietly pay off the mistress in return for her not filing suit. (Once you've gone public and filed suit with a high-profile case like this, you've just pissed away your best bargaining chips, which involve sweeping under the rug.)
If I was HP's board, I would not have let him resign; he would have been fired on the spot. Although I admit to being surprised that they didn't ham-handedly cover up the story; perhaps they learned their lesson with the wiretap fiasco from several years ago.
SirWired
Thanks for the elaboration, Capt. Obvious.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
"Hurd's 'close personal relationship' with the contractor created a conflict of interest, and he was also found to have misused company assets."
at least it reads that way to me.
No, that kind of casing is for products less than 100 cm^3 only. Anything bigger doesn't need protective casing since there's no possible rearrangement of particles that could make it any less useful.
It's not the title that's cursed, its the reputation of a once-great company repeatedly getting abused and taken for granted by those chosen to lead it.
Here's to hoping the board has better judgment when choosing the next one. Their track record so far (Carly, and now this) isn't exactly inspiring.
SirWired
Had this been a "rank and file" employee, the said employee would've been escorted out of the building on the same day, no severance. Instead we get this loop that's just going to go lay low for a few months then move on and pull the same shit again, till caught... (rinse and repeat.)
ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
I wonder what kind of golden parachute the board paid to make him go away quietly?
According to CNN, he could make $53 million in severance pay.
Note to self: Stop putting jokes in my insightful comments so I can get something other than +1 Funny!
Is he the one that made the web site with that ladies nude photos? He only said he was in India?
Like the beaver, it's just Dam one thing after another
...Hurd (pun intended, sorry).
Our old HP-3000's were built to last too. I feel all sentimental now ... I'm gonna revisit the John Sculley years at Apple and crash back to earth.
While it pains me to defend this piece of shit, the truth is that the pretexting was the handiwork of Patricia Dunn (chairwoman of HP board at the time), and the Hurd wasn't involved.
damn ..so trouble does come in 3's
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It definitely still sounds like a tank
Posting this anonymously since I work for HP.
Seems Mark violated the Standarts of Business Conduct (SBC). Every new employee has to study the SBC and every year these is a mandatory training on understanding this document. It kind of discredits both the SBC and the trainings if the CEO breaks his own rules.
Oh, and I hope they will find a new CEO who actually understands how technology works. Mark was not much better than Carly - HP now hardly does any serious R&D (except for HP Labs which actually does pretty cool stuff), preferring to buy established companies.
The solution, as always, will be more ethics classes for HP employees
HP isn't a bank, and there is no mention he abused client funds or assets. The official reason for the firing was expense account fraud. I see folks prosecuted for embezzlement in the local news all the time.
And even at banks, they get fired and escorted out the door by security. They don't get to "resign" (and keep whatever pension and perks you might ordinarily keep as a former employee.) Betcha he gets to keep his stock options, pension, etc.
SirWired
As an employee of HP, good riddance. The company's employees have been treated like dirt for at least the past two years. I don't think there is one person who sits within 50 feet of me who isn't actively job hunting. Sexual harassment is just one of his many offenses.
First Bob Moffat, now Mark Hurd.... both got caught in strange sexual histories.... Larry Ellison, better keep your hands where we can see it.
In Las Vegas, that type of contractor is called an "escort."
ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
While Hurd himself has proven to be yet another spineless idiot with no moral compass, the General Counsel did not mince words:
(From CNET)
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Holston said the company's investigation revealed that the contractor had received compensation and incorrect expense reimbursement from Hurd as part of his attempt to conceal his relationship with her.
HP's board was notified of the matter after receiving a letter from the outside contracting firm on June 29. HP conducted an investigation with outside investigators and concluded that Hurd's conduct "exhibited a profound lack of judgment," according to Holston.
The amount of expenses involved is not material to HP, according to Holston. "The facts that drove the decision for the company had to do with integrity, with credibility, and honesty," he told investors on a call Friday.
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For a corporate press release, this is practically ten-magaton nuclear anger. The only time I've seen something close is bankrupt corrupt company trying to throw the old CEO under the bus while trying to worm out of a shareholder lawsuit.
Maybe the contractor was Carly!
Hey they just got palm, and Rubenstien has some experience. I don't care how bad of a business move it is, I just want some new WebOS hardware that can hold a candle to the new Droid stuff.
The name is not "Hurd". It is "GNU/Hurd".
And I think we should not be too harsh with someone whose kernel is quite small and who is permanently surrounded by daemons...
It only takes ONE "contractor" like this in a company to totally discredit any other incoming women, no matter how many times over they can prove that their technical qualifications and achievements were earned fair and square. People won't even bother to find out. They'll just *assume* she got her grades, degrees, honors and awards on her back, got men to do her homework for her, "managed" to take credit for other peoples' work in all other previous work experience, and just happens to "know what the words mean." Except that the a-hole men on the project will simply not listen, assume she's "got it all wrong" and then have to find out the hard way what her point was -- when the little boys walk right into typical traps for young players that she'd warned them about .... having more experience.
"contractors" like this piss me off even more than ethically-impaired sociopaths like Hurd. And for a *prostitute* like that to scream "sexual harassment" when he gets tired of her just makes a mockery of *real* cases of sexual harassment, which sorry -- goes on ALL the time.
He can have a consensual relationship all he wants, (I never recall a CEO getting fired over an affair) but HP found him using company funds for this relationship. That crosses the line into misconduct worthy of firing. It's perfectly legal to have a mistress, and not something a CEO is going to get fired over. But he should have paid for the whole fling out of his own pocket; too many CEOs treat the company treasury as their piggy bank. As if their outsize salaries aren't big enough already...
And apologizing to the managers and employees would be appropriate here; nothing steams employees more than executives only paying lip service to a company's "values." The non-apology wasn't worth the paper it was written on. (It wasn't until he was investigated that it dawned on him it was wrong? *blech*)
It wasn't harassment because she probably agreed to the whole deal (likely up until the point he decided to dump her.)
Oh, and the "no panic" plan doesn't seem to be working. HP is down 10% in after-hours trading. (Which makes sense... an abrupt CEO transition from an executive that by all accounts was doing a good job is going to be tough.)
Mark Hurd's bio disappeared from HP's site:
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/bios/hurd.html
His motto was:
"Everything we do must be for the customer. If it's not, then we need to reconsider why we're doing it."
http://web.archive.org/web/20071226095057/http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/bios/hurd.html
He should have tried to respect it...
Silly stupid bastard! Everyone knows you only bang your secretary, or if you're desperate, one of the girls in the office pool. Contractors are just so beneath an executive. It's like dicking the guy that refills the water coolers.
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He was during the end of the pretexting scandal. The practice started under Carly Fiorina. At the time, he said he wasn't aware of it and he was believed. This time, his guilt was undeniable.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I can't seem to remember ANY employee of a tech company that had anything good to say about the company they work for...
I was hoping he'd be forced to resign over putting overheating nVidia chips in their Pavilion notebooks and telling everybody there wasn't a problem.
Well Done, Sarcastic Boy!
Now, off to the Alliteration Mobile!
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She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
"As the investigation progressed, I realized there were instances in which I did not live up to the standards and principles of trust, respect and integrity that I have espoused at HP and which have guided me throughout my career."
And then he said, "I should have gone straight into politics in the first place"
"I'm guessing this is par for the course at this level of "leadership" in most companies.
I disagree. I mean, I could be wrong, but most of the ceos I've met over the years, aside from the odd quirk, were very stand-up people, they had to be, otherwise no one would ever be able to do business, unless you buy that ALL ceos are sexual harasser. Clearly not so.. Also, Hurd Was Not CEO during the pretexting scandal, that was Patricia Dunn.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
HP stock dropped 4% the day Hurd's departure was announced, whereas is shot up 6.9% (at one point it was up 10.5%) the day Fiorina's departure was announced. Larry Ellison has repeated been accused of sexually harassing, then paying off his personal secretaries, but he's still CEO of Oracle... go figure. Charles Phillips, president of Oracle, screwed around on his wife for years, finally concluding in a Billboard in Times Square, but no impact to his career. I guess it just depends on which company you work for...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
dunno, he seem to have gotten HP back on course after the spending spree of the previous CEO.
comment first, facts later. http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
I can't seem to remember ANY employee of a tech company that had anything good to say about the company they work for...
I just want to preemptively get this in:
Google is not a tech company - they're an ad agency.
Wow, a 53 million dollar reward for sexual harassment, theft, and other misconduct to horrifying to speak aloud. Friends we are in the wrong goddamn industry.
If you can read this, I forgot to post anonymously.
Actually, only the attractive female contractors will be assumed to have slept their way to the top. The butt-ugly ones will still be presumed to have some skills. For the record, I have worked with women that were both very attractive (to the point of distracting me from my work) and extremely competent and hard working. But I've also worked with a contractor who literally got her job because she was sleeping with another contractor, who then became her boss. This same female contractor then complained when a junior employee made a comment about preferring a blond for the next hire -- fucking hypocrite!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
... less eloquently: Some bitch ruins guys shit over nothing.
Never seen this in the history of mankind...
I see the scales of feminism and chauvinism become to a balance in couple of years time, when there is no longer retarded pandering or fury from neither side. Both terms would be equally disgusting.
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$50e6 probably sounds very reasonable when you're accustomed to making $30e6 every year. It's funny, how small must have his fraudulent expenses been, compared to being paid over $100K every single work day. He probably feels like he just got fired for going home with an HP ballpoint pen in his pocket.
Followed the link, and what pops up? ... wait for it ... a full page HP printer ad.
Classic.
it's slashdot, you aren't in the computer industry?
While the harassment claims of the contractor could not be substantiated three goats and a Great Dane made damaging statements that were backed up by multiple video tapes. His on-line handle animallover69 didn't help his case.
Vote for Basil Marceaux. I'm sure he'll be willing to move.
you don't consider EDS, 3COM and palm a spending spree ???
holly jeebus in a pogo stick, man! the guy spent nearly 20 giga dolars on those. i bet carly is proud of him (except for the harrasment thingy, of course)
What ? Me, worry ?
I think you could have Gary Coleman's corpse running California. The place has such a ridiculously bad constitution that it wouldn't really matter.
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They wanted to be able to say, "No, your Honor, we didn't say we were pretexting, we said we were Pre texting."
Your god may be dead, but mine aren't!
Now we get to watch HP crash again under the "leadership" of yet another "squat to pee" manager.
Yeah... one simple tip though - try not to include your boss when complaining about them, people.
Gosh, his corporate picture is terrifying! He's combing hair over from his right ear (as we look at it), adding various bits of hair, to pretend he isn't balding!
WIG! WIG!
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I guess not!
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Don't hate the player, hate the game... and all the feminists who demanded the rules be written in the favor of the exact type of woman who undermines feminist principles of autonomy, and a self-sufficient women of equal standing.
They created a legal situation that creates huge financial incentives for women to sleep their way to the top.
The name of the game is:
Seduce one superior after another until the ruse is up: then sue for sexual harassment and when the coke/plastic surgery money runs out: sweep it under the rug so that the next unsuspecting human resources manager will hire the affirmative action queen.
Meanwhile: cynical opportunists write op ed pieces about needing more women in the sciences, effectively keeping the game alive.
Meanwhile, chauvinist pigs such as myself crack jokes about the entire thing, and create a culture hostile to women. Effectively creating the "glass ceiling" professional failures that don't know the correct way to advance their careers love to bitch about. They demand Standards of Business Conduct, internal complaint processes, and sexual harassment laws effectively completing the cycle.
But to me this smells like 'Mark, take one for the team and we'll give you a cushy position elsewhere in the firm. No one needs to make a bigger scandal than we've already got.' Meanwhile behind closed doors the other board members are up to things just as dirty, things they could be exposed for, but in the end, Mr. Hurd would be burned a lot worse than them by leaving all his 'friends' out to dry.
Or maybe I just watched The Wire too many times.
Haha, you thought we would not recognise you, evil Contradicto! Only you could have diminished the sidekick's post by calling him Sarcastic, and at the same time reaffirmed the Captain's position by pointing out his sidekick in the first place!
Well, this mother fucker should be in jail, goddammit.
IMO the problem is which kind of CEO the Board of Directors will seek as a replacement.
...And his wife's divorce lawyer.
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
it's slashdot, you aren't in the computer industry?
I think the GPP was talking about the CEO industry, which is quite separate from the industry of any company the CEO happens to be running at the moment. It's really bizarre how successful the business model is: tell people what to do, even when what you tell them to do is quite clearly contrary to their own interests and the interests of the company, and they give you gobs of money for it; then when they finally get sick of doing all the stupid and counterproductive things you've been telling them to do, they give you even more money on your way out the door.
Imagine, if, oh, say, plumbing worked that way.
"Hi, is this Joe's Plumbing? My toilet's leaking, what should I do?"
"Okay, what you need to do is turn off your water, disconnect the toilet, and then turn the water back on."
"Um ... shouldn't I connect a new toilet first?"
"No, trust me, it'll be fine."
"Great, thanks! Here's my Visa card number ... Okay, hold on a minute, let me try this ... now I've got water gushing out of my bathroom and flooding all over my house!"
"Sorry, can't be helped. That just happens sometimes."
"You're incompetent! I'm going to call another plumber who knows what the hell he's talking about! Oh, and before I hang up, here's my Mastercard number too."
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
Contracted for teh sex0rd to teh max0rz, and then they complain?
Does the Board of Directors really tell CEOs what to do? I never heard that claim before.
Except at the executive level where it's actually needed.
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
First I've hurd of this...
RE: His statements... I have two words that are just as sincere, just as believable: "Wardrobe Malfunction"
Willie...
Oh GOD, sORRY! i was just looking for the USB hub!
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
You are making assumptions about how this went down.. perhaps they had the right chemistry and started something and then she wanted to stop and he wouldn't. Then he persists after she has asked him to stop and starts stalking her, she blows the whistle.. All I'm saying is that you don't really know the personal details..
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
HP is a shell of the company it once was, I didn't think it could get worse after Carly, but it did, under Hurd, so *this* time the change has to be for the better right? BTW, is everyone assuming the contractor was a female?
--ed fardos
I started working for HP shortly after Carly came in, and I had the privilege to work with a number of 30+ year HP employees. They had worked for (and in several cases personally met) Bill and Dave and they had nothing but praise for them. They also had an amazing loyalty to the company - a loyalty that took one beating after another under Carly's leadership.
Maybe you're right that no employee of a tech company has anything good to say these days, but it wasn't the case at HP for many years.
As to the current situation, I know a number of people that still work there and they are miserable - far more so than when I left 5 years ago. Things were tough when I left, but it sounds like they've gotten far worse over time.
Custom, hands-free Linux installs. Instalinux
They should have known that Hurd is unstable
but sadly I'm guessing this is par for the course at this level of "leadership" in most companies.
Or countries for that matter. The president gets blowjobs from an intern and he doesn't have to resign; the CEO did something similar and he has to resign. Looks like the corporation has higher standards than the govt.
How many of them did jail time for that just like I would if I had pulled that stunt?
Ok then, none. Did anything inconvenient happen to them at all?
No? Then they did not learn that lesson and are probably still doing similar things but just being a bit quieter about it.
Carlie is vindicated!
The Missanthropic-Pervert Mark Hud is relagated to the gutter ... all be it a 12 million gutter.
What else lies in wait for the Perverts-behind-their-glass-ceiling of the HP Board?
I'd gladly give up all my wrights as a Citizen of the United States of American and all wrights as a Human Being, jus to have ALL federal emploiees, the President and Vice President and UNELECTED cabinet officers and down to mid-level department managers tracked 24/7/365-66 by GPS implants and have their real-time positions posted to the world to see.
Perverts like Barak Hussain Obama would be outed in 60 seconds.
Yay the trend continues.
Another failed HP CEO. I guess he's qualified to run for the Senate now.
The great thing about ethics classes(the behavioral kind, not the philosophy kind) is that everybody passes: Either the material is common sense, or you have no problem with cheating...
**Sniff** I remember when HP was a well respected company and its equipment was built like a tank
You must be very old.
The soft sciences (whether or not they really are science) often do not use the scientific method and frequently are more opinion-based than anything.
This is plainly not true. Social sciences actually use scientific metod, but education about them don't.
It shouldn't take more than 2,500 years for them to catch up, though. Less, if they put in the fundamental research necessary.
Research is literally already there, good books are already there. The problem is that the social sciences are really complex and hard to learn (I say that as a person who studied fundamental and applied maths) and good books about them are eclipsed by the pills of rubbish. For example, there is a great Russian social scientist, Yuriy Semenov, but you probably never heard about him even if you lived in Russia. And he is an Einstein of social sciences.
I haven't met a SINGLE hot contractor which was competent (and since competence was not the reason they were hired, I can only surmise there were other reasons, even if not sexual, like being a cousin or something).
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visit randi.org
Contrary to what Penrose says De-coherence (microseconds) time compared to neurone reaction time (milliseconds;usually for a total of hundred of milliseconds for the brain reaction) certainly hint that QM effect have only a minor role in the neuron function. Chemistry and thermodynamic, statistic laws are what take the lead. Anyway if you go down that road, there is QM *everywhere*, so theoretically we would not be able to model anything whatsoever. We still do (even the neurons). The trick is to go fine grained enough in the model at a level where QM does not yet has its sway, and you still got a valid model. At that level the neuron is deterministic and still pretty well modelled.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345409469/
visit randi.org
Sadly the Alliteration Mobile has a three-stroke, two cylinder engine so it's more like:
Na--NaNa-Na-NaNaNa--NanNa-NaNa...
Unless you are going downhill, in which case it sounds like a Gnu playing a kazoo.
You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
**Sniff** I remember when HP was a well respected company and its equipment was built like a tank
These days, the packaging is built like a tank's.
Most human behaviour can be explained in terms of identity.
No it doesn't. 160% annual salary is a pretty sweet severance package and I don't understand why this scumbag would get anything at all. Ordinary people don't get squat when they resign (and wouldn't even have had the option anyway).
I can't imagine any situation where I (along with 99% of non-CEO workers) would get this kind of parachute. At the very best case I'm looking at 3-6 months salary, not 1+ year.
**Sniff** I remember when HP was a well respected company and its equipment was built like a tank
That was when they were engineering products instead of marketing commodities.
i was unaware of the first two. HP still seemed to have more direction tho, iirc.
comment first, facts later. http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
He was probably feeling pretty untouchable up to that point after coming out unscathed from the other little upset they had a while back.
Good choice of words.
Whatever it is, it's notablog.
There's nothing like the back-stabbing hateful environment of the corporate world. Still, I'm sure the CEO will be ok with his multi-million dollar pension and more millions in stock and options.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
We re in the correct sector.
However, we are in the wrong position ;-)
A scandal like this... there is NO WAY they'd be able to sweep it under the rug. Once the secret was out, you've opened up the whole company to a world of hurt. Namely, you've just endorsed expense account fraud and made it pretty much impossible to fire somebody as a result. In addition, employees learning that blatant misconduct is tolerated in the executive suites does devastating things to morale and recruitment.
If expense account fraud happens in a govt. contract, HP could have lost the ability to win ANY govt. contracts.
The first is obviously Mark committing theft, probably grand theft. The second is the board failing in their fudiciary as usual. If the board did what they are charged with doing, Mark would have been told, either resign and get nothing or we take you to court on grand theft charges. Yes you can sue us for your contract spoils, but do enjoy what money can buy in the slammer. I'm pretty sure grand theft is over a year, and in cali that means wonderful places like san quentin are an option. But of course the board rolled over as usual and the shareholders get screwed for 28M. It is just sick what happens in the boardroom. H&P would be puking right now.
Hey we're all responsible for filling the water coolers in my office you insensitive clod!
Speculation: for there to be a sexual harassment case, there must have been a complaint, which tells me that the lady in question was not happy with Mr. Hurd. She would also be aware of the misuse of expenses, something to be used against him if needed ... so a sexual harassment complaint might be swept under the carpet, but misuse of expenses would be taken a bit more seriously. Lawyers can more easily sink their teeth that kind of complaint. In my estimation, that is.
I can't talk about current HP culture, since I left there about three years ago to go to university. I was wondering whether I had made the right choice, whether I'd have been better off staying. Financially, sure, but in terms of general quality of life ... nah.
(this is not a
The president gets blowjobs from an intern and he doesn't have to resign; the CEO did something similar and he has to resign.
The president didn't force or even coerce anyone to suck his dick. He only lied about it under oath, and it was a question being asked to try to establish something about allegedly nonconsensual sexual advances, meaning that it never should have been asked as it was irrelevant to the case, and asking the question was a political act.
Hope this helps.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
This is quite a moment for something like this to happen in HP. As they are slap in the middle of a fairly significant restructuring of the organization (or at least a good part of it) and in so doing losing the confidence of their clients and engineers, this is not going to do any good whatsoever for the low rumbles of dissent one can hear in the place. Funny story; a lot of euros worth of account support was going from a certain destination to another. Let's say, Europe to Africa. This process was about 7 months into implementation - I'm talking RACIs, knowledge transfers and pending handovers - when woops, suddenly all the clients from a certain European nation mention to their ADMs that they have specific contract clauses saying no non-EU sysadmin may access their infrastructure. Clear as day, and not exactly private knowledge given the amount of NDAs one signs upon assuming such a role. However, everything had to be scrapped, people re-hired, everything on-hold while someone pulls a finger out. Like I said, eh, funny..
We're not in the wrong industry, we're just signing our contracts too easily. I was laid off without warning while my company was still cranking out industry-defying profits and given nothing more for my trouble than 1 month's severance (which works out to about 1/5th of what I would be entitled to for unemployment insurance). My contract for working there required nothing more from them than that and in hindsight, I wished I'd negotiated for a contract that would have required them to treat me like a human being not a copier machine they could dump to Craigslist. I guess that's my fault for assuming if I treat people kindly and do a good job by them, they'd return the favor. As it stood, the company *DID* have to re-arrange their pay structure at the time to accommodate me (no, before you assume so, I was NOT asking for above even industry average) so I assumed that would carry over across my career. Their HR folks did a fantastic job and I should have known something was up when they were replaced by ex-Microsoft HR management.
At any rate, I'm sure his contract states that no manner of termination precludes him from his benefits for X months, his bonuses will all be intact for the rest of the year, and he gets twice his normal yearly salary. If we all signed contracts like that when we hire in we'd probably use the company like our own piggy bank and expense our dalliances with mistresses to our company accounts as well. Sarcasm aside, HP would NOT be doing this if it weren't in a rather large legally binding contract. I doubt any company would want to lose money in the effort to get rid of a scumbag unless they had to. What companies need to do is stop bending over for these CEOs. They need to treat the CEOs like employees, not kings. Make them sign reasonable contracts and base any perks by the same bonus structure the rest of the employees are beholden to.
No, the executives are ten times more important, so they'll have to attend a ten-day long ethics training seminar in Hawaii.
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"**Sniff** I remember when HP was a well respected company and its equipment was built like a tank"
Yeah, and they found out how much more money they could make by firing all of their American workers and off-shoring thier jobs. Since then it has been a slippery slope of lower quality and just putting out any ol' crap to make a buck.
The companies I used to work for in the 90's would not touch an HP PC or laptop now in the 00's. The printers are next on the list, they are slowly phasing those out as well. Hello Lenovo and Xerox. If you going to buy low quality crap then you may as well pay the least for it as you can.
He only lied about it under oath, ...
Look, I understand politicians are commonly held to be basically the same everywhere (nominally crap), but in which reality is lying under oath excusable? I mean seriously, I'm assuming he "only lied when he had pledged to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth". I'm outside looking in (AU is still thankfully not the 51st state); I couldn't care less if he had a mistress. But if he's going to lie about that while under oath, I don't understand why it would be considered gospel that he didn't and wouldn't lie about anything else in any other situation?
Not that the bleached out water-coloured Australian dross are any better though ... no colour or strength to their campaigns.
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Jesus
he was a slimy man
and what I want to know is
how do you like your blue-eyed boy NOW
Mister Board
way to fuck up ee cummings with your antitroll paranoia,
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Sad, but true. I'd mod this, but it's already +5 Funny. Their paper license key request information is very well packed in a sturdy cardboard box, lined with foam. That piece of paper isn't gonna have anything done to it!
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The constitution is fine.
It's the constituency.
And the legislature.