"This "legacy religion" brought you everything you understand as "civilization"." - sure. god justified things like genocide, slavery, homophobia, misogyny, ISIS, etc etc
What about the pagans who worshipped natural events because they didn;t understand them. i doubt they needed a language to bow and grovel. i expect one person grovelled in a particular way to an event (thunder) and "it worked" once so a few others copied etc
this was before the outbreak of the war, it was targeted at the Jews, gypsies, gays etc as they were seen as the enemy of the Arian race. so now we have history repeating itself with idiots demonising all Muslims. its like saying all germans were nazi whereas it was just a few that held power.
its quite simple. if you get your enemy to fight amongst themselves and demonise the the ordinary muslims, you can create instability and hatred. they are hoping this will convince the ordinary muslims to turn into fundamentalists and start the fight within. All Trump is doing is giving the closet racists a voice and a chance to re-enforce their bigotry under the cloak of "so called" acceptability. Unfortunately the bigots don't quite understand this tactic, a bit like the ordinary germans didn't understand the same scare tactics of their leaders until it was too late..
"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
by: Hermann Goering:- (1893-1946) Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler's designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich. [Göring]
A sensible start would be, all guns locked away in gun clubs and in homes, jail time for carrying one outside the home or gun club. Unfortunately no law would stop the determined especially when they are so easy to purchase. Maybe put dud bullets in the ammunition packs that explode in the gun by accident (just enough to damage it), might make them think about pulling the trigger.
its not "lifestyle", its life. until you understand the difference you are going to struggle to understand the issue...
"Please explain the mechanism of this "economy collapse" due to climate change," if the temp gets too high or too low, growing foodstuffs becomes more difficult, i presume you can see how a lack of food can screw things up.
no, we equate those issues to kiribati's that why there are so many charities/agencies trying to get running water/electricity to these people in africa/india. the chinese grow their own and have always done but if the temperature gets too high (or too flooded) around the world, it gets more difficult to grow things and that will cause its own problems.
it all matters, if it didn't then the water wouldn't be as high as it is now. the warmer the planet the quicker the ice melts because the earth, air and sea gets warmer. if the historical didn't happen, all those elements will be cooler and the problem would be further away.
if all those forms of power usage are powered by renewables then they are being ethical but until such time they do, they are being unethical. Its just sad that some do their bit to try and reduce the problem whereas others do their worst as its either "out of sight, out of mind", "couldn't care - i won't change my lifestyle for anyone" or just pure ignorance.
they may or may not be trending down, but from what level and to what level? if the US level is still higher than everyone else then the argument is useless. If the US level was below most then its good.
its not just the Kiribati residents wanting a life (not lifestyle), its an indicator towards the problem as it expands. the Kiribati may be the first of many hence the concern, all coast lines will be getting smaller as a result of the sea levels going up. if it was just going to be them, i doubt it would be a big issue as the population could be dispersed throughout the world without too much bother apart from the xenophobes/racists in the respective countries they may want to go to.
just shows the current guns laws are shit and weak. i mean you can't even ask a customer to stop smoking in a restaurant with getting your head shot off any more. http://www.eater.com/2015/11/3...
"Likely only relevant to Jews." - whys id itn the old testament then?
" Xians generally disavow most if not all of the Old Testament." - If thats the case why is the Lords prayer and ten commandments still being used by christians and its used to justify hate of gays etc if they disavow the old testament - all you are saying is they cherry pick the good(?) bits when its convenient. Why don't they re-write the old testament and rid themselves of Gods word?
"If you want to commit mass character assassination, try starting with the New Testament." - Jesus didn;t refute any of the old testament or his dads horrific ways/demands and he lied about performing miracles so he is just as bad as his dad - how did i do?
the point was to show the bible is just as horrific as the koran. they believed the horror was in the koran and not the bible and were shocked to find it was the bible. if you have people saying these books are the "Word of God" then they cannot cherry pick what they want to believe and follow because they are going against their God and that makes them not as devout as they think they are. If the society really grew up and matured, we'd all be atheists.
probably more of a lapsed catholic as he took the last rites but he did say this a year after the bombing "In a 1996 interview, McVeigh professed belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs."
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why worry about the Syrians? the US has got more than enough home grown white nutjobs causing mass shootings to worry about Syrians.
"This "legacy religion" brought you everything you understand as "civilization"." - sure. god justified things like genocide, slavery, homophobia, misogyny, ISIS, etc etc
What about the pagans who worshipped natural events because they didn;t understand them. i doubt they needed a language to bow and grovel. i expect one person grovelled in a particular way to an event (thunder) and "it worked" once so a few others copied etc
However, that post DOES prove the case that most ACs are morons.
learn from history otherwise you are bound to repeat it.
this was before the outbreak of the war, it was targeted at the Jews, gypsies, gays etc as they were seen as the enemy of the Arian race. so now we have history repeating itself with idiots demonising all Muslims. its like saying all germans were nazi whereas it was just a few that held power.
its quite simple. if you get your enemy to fight amongst themselves and demonise the the ordinary muslims, you can create instability and hatred. they are hoping this will convince the ordinary muslims to turn into fundamentalists and start the fight within. All Trump is doing is giving the closet racists a voice and a chance to re-enforce their bigotry under the cloak of "so called" acceptability. Unfortunately the bigots don't quite understand this tactic, a bit like the ordinary germans didn't understand the same scare tactics of their leaders until it was too late..
:- (1893-1946) Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler's designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich. [Göring]
"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
by: Hermann Goering
the points of complaint are not against those sensible owners, its the ease with which the nutjobs can get them
A sensible start would be, all guns locked away in gun clubs and in homes, jail time for carrying one outside the home or gun club. Unfortunately no law would stop the determined especially when they are so easy to purchase. Maybe put dud bullets in the ammunition packs that explode in the gun by accident (just enough to damage it), might make them think about pulling the trigger.
i guess you could say the same to all those who live on fault lines or in earthquake zones or near volcanos
its not "lifestyle", its life. until you understand the difference you are going to struggle to understand the issue...
"Please explain the mechanism of this "economy collapse" due to climate change," if the temp gets too high or too low, growing foodstuffs becomes more difficult, i presume you can see how a lack of food can screw things up.
melt all the snow in siberia and make it tropical?
no, we equate those issues to kiribati's that why there are so many charities/agencies trying to get running water/electricity to these people in africa/india. the chinese grow their own and have always done but if the temperature gets too high (or too flooded) around the world, it gets more difficult to grow things and that will cause its own problems.
if you cannot comprehend what you are trying to say, then i guess we shouldn't bother trying to point it out.
it all matters, if it didn't then the water wouldn't be as high as it is now. the warmer the planet the quicker the ice melts because the earth, air and sea gets warmer. if the historical didn't happen, all those elements will be cooler and the problem would be further away.
if all those forms of power usage are powered by renewables then they are being ethical but until such time they do, they are being unethical. Its just sad that some do their bit to try and reduce the problem whereas others do their worst as its either "out of sight, out of mind", "couldn't care - i won't change my lifestyle for anyone" or just pure ignorance.
they may or may not be trending down, but from what level and to what level? if the US level is still higher than everyone else then the argument is useless. If the US level was below most then its good.
its not just the Kiribati residents wanting a life (not lifestyle), its an indicator towards the problem as it expands. the Kiribati may be the first of many hence the concern, all coast lines will be getting smaller as a result of the sea levels going up. if it was just going to be them, i doubt it would be a big issue as the population could be dispersed throughout the world without too much bother apart from the xenophobes/racists in the respective countries they may want to go to.
that won;t cure the nutjobs, might save a few self inflicted accidents though.
if i was a terrorist, i'd make my way to the USA and cause as much havoc as i could because its so easy to get guns, ammo etc
just shows the current guns laws are shit and weak. i mean you can't even ask a customer to stop smoking in a restaurant with getting your head shot off any more. http://www.eater.com/2015/11/3...
"Likely only relevant to Jews." - whys id itn the old testament then?
" Xians generally disavow most if not all of the Old Testament." - If thats the case why is the Lords prayer and ten commandments still being used by christians and its used to justify hate of gays etc if they disavow the old testament - all you are saying is they cherry pick the good(?) bits when its convenient. Why don't they re-write the old testament and rid themselves of Gods word?
"If you want to commit mass character assassination, try starting with the New Testament." - Jesus didn;t refute any of the old testament or his dads horrific ways/demands and he lied about performing miracles so he is just as bad as his dad - how did i do?
the point was to show the bible is just as horrific as the koran. they believed the horror was in the koran and not the bible and were shocked to find it was the bible.
if you have people saying these books are the "Word of God" then they cannot cherry pick what they want to believe and follow because they are going against their God and that makes them not as devout as they think they are. If the society really grew up and matured, we'd all be atheists.
probably more of a lapsed catholic as he took the last rites but he did say this a year after the bombing "In a 1996 interview, McVeigh professed belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs."
so what do you do for the 354 other mass shootings this year not done by muslims?