You know, I never thought about how oppressed we really were until your post on this commercial, advertising-supported Web site cleared it up for me.
Grow up and get some perspective.
oh geee !!! now i see the error of my ways..
so, if we were back in slavery days, and slave in a plantation owners' farm, and talking at night in the log cabin that the plantation owner stuffed us into, while eating the food that plantation owner had given us, it would be totally wrong if i said 'hey, we are slaves here, we have no freedom' ??
would you say, 'you know, i never thought about how oppressed we really were until your talk in this slaveowner-sponsored log cabin, eating this slave-owner sponsored meal', in that sarcastic manner ?
if those companies are not FOR freedom of speech and information, then it means they are enemies of it. REGARDLESS of their reasons. a tool for oppression, is a tool for oppression. it doesnt matter zit, whether the company shows business reasons as an excuse.
If, you are helping censorship, oppression, it means YOU ARE HELPING CENSORSHIP AND OPPRESSION.
I have demanded that they reinstate wikileaks account, and noted that i would migrate my business from paypal to other means, and also advise my ecommerce clients to do as such too. In addition, because im in the Eu zone, i have filed my complaint under 'file a complaint in the european union'.
i have also stated that i was going to file an official complaint with the European Parliament regarding the matter, unless the account is not reinstated. As a citizen of a candidate country, i have that right. Any citizen of any member or candidate country, has that right. If you file your complaint properly with your name, address, it is processed by Eu Parl even if it is by email.
take action.
i said, i didnt want to do business with a corporation that caves into the pressure of a single senator from a single country. Let paypal show its international, if it wants to do business internationally.
There were idiots believing there could be freedom with full feudalism (capitalism) being allowed in the economic side of life, and democracy and equality in the political side of life.
See how that works ? you are free to say anything you want, from the political side, but, you dont have the MEANS to say it from the economic side.
basically, the corporations which dominate the economic side, determine how far your freedom goes. it doesnt matter ZIT whether you are allowed full freedoms in the political side of life.
its stupid anyway - you let everyone be free and equal, but, you give the control of the means to exercise those freedoms to the most wealthy. what did you think would happen ?
ALL tv stations show loud commercials. or, 90% of stations show loud commercials. it becomes de facto reality of the market, and all stations start showing them. just like how it happens with all 'industry standard practices' in all sectors all the time.
its not only an american problem. you chance up on a video on youtube or something else around the net, and suddenly -kaboooom. your house is vibrating with some shitty american commercial. volume just ramps up like there's no tomorrow.
that was an affliction for everyone. not only americans. ironic that not the free market, but REGULATION is what's fixing that crap.
They are based in switzerland, man. No entity, person or corporation or government alike, can threaten switzerland, due to what is stored in swiss banks.
I know there are a lot of people among you who can contribute A LOT due to your skills. it is time to put your skills to use for your and others' freedom. So that we can be truly free on the internet regarding domain names.
nutso as in right wing nutso that is. or extremely fool naive person.
He doesn't care who he hurts, or gets killed in the process.
Sure, revealing human rights violations is one thing, but revealing names and locations of people who have given us confidential information because they might get killed for it is something else.
have those people who were participating in effecting operations, kidnappings, torture, invasions, occupations of united states around the world, been caring who might get killed ?
huh ?
they willfully, dutifully participated in these operations, directly or indirectly, doing whatever function that was assigned to them, DESPITE all the issues coming out to media for years now. for, approx 8 years even. they didnt have any worries about the ethics of what they were doing.
why the fuck should we care, if any of them are killed, because of leaks ? give me a SINGLE reason for that ?
no no - i have to make a correction - there WERE some people who worried about the ethics of what they were doing. that is the very reason we have these leaks.
Basically, they lied. dipshits. And how the hell did that Rosario guy knew that cd was pirated in the first place anyway ? did he understand it from its smell ? cd wasnt labeled ? what if the guy made a backup ? huh ?
ehh. pointless. they are lying and slyfoxing their way. that is as good as justice gets in a land where money buys everything.
that's currently preferred generic, impersonafiable bogeyman. when nationalist sentiments are desired to be invoked more than anything else, they seem to prefer chinese. when they want to instill fear and nationalism at the same time, iran. (while also trying to invoke some goading in the form of freedom and liberty exploitation) when only fear, terrorism !
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/reports/ [greenpeace.org]
http://www.amnesty.org/en/who-we-are/accountability/financial-reports [amnesty.org]
Wikileaks as an organization is not being prosecuted. Assange (who I criticized, not Wikileaks) is being prosecuted for a reason, in Sweden of all places. Sweden is pretty damned famous for being neutral in diplomatic affairs. Sweden is the same country that refuses to extradite Polanski to the US. So please continue your crazy conspiracy notion that the rape charges are due to agents of foreign governments.
your argument is invalid.
wikileaks AND assange are both being prosecuted. prosecution has not taken the form of a case of court of law yet. (Despite it might have in some countries). yet, national spy agencies have been already going after them, and now national governments are going after them openly too.
assange had to leave switzerland because of what exactly ? american pressure. how couldnt he stay in sweden, in one of the freest countries of earth ? american pressure.
americans are OPENLY pressuring and wanting to prosecute him. interpol issued a warrant for him just recently.
and you are coming up saying wikileaks is not being prosecuted. not only assange IS wikileaks, but there are already moves to get ahold of everything in wikileaks.
really. you are talking about an outfit that has released innumerable crap about a lot of powerful interests and countries, and you are saying they are not being prosecuted.
thats why im telling you to get a fucking clue.
neither amnesty international, nor greenpeace, or your church, has the risk of getting their funds in a random bank confiscated under any kind of random pretense because of international pressure.
im WARNING them over this change, as a customer. they may have changed only autocomplete. fine. but, im making my opinion known, in case they may err in changing more stuff.
His refusal to wear a condom despite his sexual partners begging that he do precisely that, as he sleeps with multiple strangers in a short period of time is one reason I think he is a douche.
you just lumped in about maybe 60-70% of world male population there.
And while he wants to keep informants secret, as that location of his servers (to protect the information) he won't disclose how much money has been donated, how he spends the money, why he doesn't disclose all leaks given to him, etc.
does greenpeace do that ? amnesty international ?
are any of those organizations, being prosecuted by foreign governments and their agents ? are there anyone wanting them killed ? wanting to confiscate all their stuff and funds ?
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You know, I never thought about how oppressed we really were until your post on this commercial, advertising-supported Web site cleared it up for me.
Grow up and get some perspective.
oh geee !!! now i see the error of my ways ..
so, if we were back in slavery days, and slave in a plantation owners' farm, and talking at night in the log cabin that the plantation owner stuffed us into, while eating the food that plantation owner had given us, it would be totally wrong if i said 'hey, we are slaves here, we have no freedom' ??
would you say, 'you know, i never thought about how oppressed we really were until your talk in this slaveowner-sponsored log cabin, eating this slave-owner sponsored meal', in that sarcastic manner ?
wake up and dont be an idiot.
if those companies are not FOR freedom of speech and information, then it means they are enemies of it. REGARDLESS of their reasons. a tool for oppression, is a tool for oppression. it doesnt matter zit, whether the company shows business reasons as an excuse.
If, you are helping censorship, oppression, it means YOU ARE HELPING CENSORSHIP AND OPPRESSION.
Doing that wasnt on my mind even. Thanks, whichever moron, has pressurized paypal to suspend them. They made me donate to wikileaks.
Thank you for your donation.
Your payment of EUR 25 has been received 4.12.2010 16:02:31
With your VISA xxxxxxxxxxxx9516
Reference : 5729
The Wikileaks Team, Sunshine Press
I have demanded that they reinstate wikileaks account, and noted that i would migrate my business from paypal to other means, and also advise my ecommerce clients to do as such too. In addition, because im in the Eu zone, i have filed my complaint under 'file a complaint in the european union'.
i have also stated that i was going to file an official complaint with the European Parliament regarding the matter, unless the account is not reinstated. As a citizen of a candidate country, i have that right. Any citizen of any member or candidate country, has that right. If you file your complaint properly with your name, address, it is processed by Eu Parl even if it is by email.
take action.
i said, i didnt want to do business with a corporation that caves into the pressure of a single senator from a single country. Let paypal show its international, if it wants to do business internationally.
There were idiots believing there could be freedom with full feudalism (capitalism) being allowed in the economic side of life, and democracy and equality in the political side of life.
....
See how that works ? you are free to say anything you want, from the political side, but, you dont have the MEANS to say it from the economic side.
basically, the corporations which dominate the economic side, determine how far your freedom goes. it doesnt matter ZIT whether you are allowed full freedoms in the political side of life.
its stupid anyway - you let everyone be free and equal, but, you give the control of the means to exercise those freedoms to the most wealthy. what did you think would happen ?
this
ALL tv stations show loud commercials. or, 90% of stations show loud commercials. it becomes de facto reality of the market, and all stations start showing them. just like how it happens with all 'industry standard practices' in all sectors all the time.
what are you going to do ?
its not only an american problem. you chance up on a video on youtube or something else around the net, and suddenly -kaboooom. your house is vibrating with some shitty american commercial. volume just ramps up like there's no tomorrow.
that was an affliction for everyone. not only americans. ironic that not the free market, but REGULATION is what's fixing that crap.
They are based in switzerland, man. No entity, person or corporation or government alike, can threaten switzerland, due to what is stored in swiss banks.
http://chat.efnet.org:9090/ -> channel dot-p2p
I know there are a lot of people among you who can contribute A LOT due to your skills. it is time to put your skills to use for your and others' freedom. So that we can be truly free on the internet regarding domain names.
http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
He doesn't care who he hurts, or gets killed in the process. Sure, revealing human rights violations is one thing, but revealing names and locations of people who have given us confidential information because they might get killed for it is something else.
have those people who were participating in effecting operations, kidnappings, torture, invasions, occupations of united states around the world, been caring who might get killed ?
huh ?
they willfully, dutifully participated in these operations, directly or indirectly, doing whatever function that was assigned to them, DESPITE all the issues coming out to media for years now. for, approx 8 years even. they didnt have any worries about the ethics of what they were doing.
why the fuck should we care, if any of them are killed, because of leaks ? give me a SINGLE reason for that ?
no no - i have to make a correction - there WERE some people who worried about the ethics of what they were doing. that is the very reason we have these leaks.
now, stop watching faux news.
where should joe liebermann, be ?
I actually feel sorry for these people and it's not nice to point out their flaws even if they themselves can help it.
how will they find out their flaws and fix them, if everyone hides them ...
like the americans who financed nazis until 1941. did heaps of trading with them merrily.
had switzerland not 'financed' nazis, they wouldnt stay as a neutral unoccupied country. germans would just take them over and finance themselves.
get real.
now what's important is, what are you americans going to do about this. some dipshit is censoring you at his will, using the power you gave to him.
dont sweat it guy. what has happened, has happened.
Basically, they lied. dipshits. And how the hell did that Rosario guy knew that cd was pirated in the first place anyway ? did he understand it from its smell ? cd wasnt labeled ? what if the guy made a backup ? huh ?
ehh. pointless. they are lying and slyfoxing their way. that is as good as justice gets in a land where money buys everything.
that's currently preferred generic, impersonafiable bogeyman. when nationalist sentiments are desired to be invoked more than anything else, they seem to prefer chinese. when they want to instill fear and nationalism at the same time, iran. (while also trying to invoke some goading in the form of freedom and liberty exploitation) when only fear, terrorism !
read first few posts in this thread.
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/reports/ [greenpeace.org] http://www.amnesty.org/en/who-we-are/accountability/financial-reports [amnesty.org] Wikileaks as an organization is not being prosecuted. Assange (who I criticized, not Wikileaks) is being prosecuted for a reason, in Sweden of all places. Sweden is pretty damned famous for being neutral in diplomatic affairs. Sweden is the same country that refuses to extradite Polanski to the US. So please continue your crazy conspiracy notion that the rape charges are due to agents of foreign governments.
your argument is invalid.
wikileaks AND assange are both being prosecuted. prosecution has not taken the form of a case of court of law yet. (Despite it might have in some countries). yet, national spy agencies have been already going after them, and now national governments are going after them openly too.
assange had to leave switzerland because of what exactly ? american pressure. how couldnt he stay in sweden, in one of the freest countries of earth ? american pressure.
americans are OPENLY pressuring and wanting to prosecute him. interpol issued a warrant for him just recently.
and you are coming up saying wikileaks is not being prosecuted. not only assange IS wikileaks, but there are already moves to get ahold of everything in wikileaks.
really. you are talking about an outfit that has released innumerable crap about a lot of powerful interests and countries, and you are saying they are not being prosecuted.
thats why im telling you to get a fucking clue.
neither amnesty international, nor greenpeace, or your church, has the risk of getting their funds in a random bank confiscated under any kind of random pretense because of international pressure.
geeet a fucking clue, again.
oh geee. i just found out that i was an idiot. what to do, what to do ...
im WARNING them over this change, as a customer. they may have changed only autocomplete. fine. but, im making my opinion known, in case they may err in changing more stuff.
thats probably something right wing NUTSOs in usa are propagating. their favorite bogeyman is china these days.
that being said, didnt wikileaks release shit about china too in the last few years ? so, why ?
no. the latter. pagerank (tm) doesnt have a shit of a meaning, if i cant find what i want. period.
His refusal to wear a condom despite his sexual partners begging that he do precisely that, as he sleeps with multiple strangers in a short period of time is one reason I think he is a douche.
you just lumped in about maybe 60-70% of world male population there.
And while he wants to keep informants secret, as that location of his servers (to protect the information) he won't disclose how much money has been donated, how he spends the money, why he doesn't disclose all leaks given to him, etc.
does greenpeace do that ? amnesty international ?
are any of those organizations, being prosecuted by foreign governments and their agents ? are there anyone wanting them killed ? wanting to confiscate all their stuff and funds ?
get a fucking clue will you. get real.
who cares about auto complete ffs. im not a 59 year old idaho mom.