.... to make certain components of those systems upgradeable. say, like cpu. say, memory. say, maybe gpu. even if the upgrades would be limited, they would still allow more wiggle room for the console owners, and also help progress of both gaming and consoles with new generation upgradeable items. because the items would only bring processing power/memory/whatever, it wouldnt require any significant changes.
they could use oem parts, they could do their chips themselves. in any case, they would be able to sell more frequently, rather than the spikes they are having every release, and then dying out.
and that would help the gaming progress faster than it is doing now. we are all waiting 5 year cycles of consoles to catch up to go up a notch even in pc gaming, because all developers have to accommodate consoles too.
if something fails continually and unstoppably, it means that, it does NOT work.
there is no 'design of secrecy'. EVERY country now knows each others' secrets. spy satellites, wiretapping, private interests and interest networks. all governments know what each other is doing.
the only ones this 'secrecy' thing is being effective against, are the citizens.
that was reported YEARS ago, by media because of a lawsuit filed by a rights group. it was 'reported'. it wasnt confirmed. now, the leaks CONFIRM it, officially from u.s. government.
if they didnt want to end up this way, they shouldnt have used the secrecy of diplomacy and the concept of 'state secret' to propagate filth. its as simple as that.
idiots who have no knowledge of history to know that, american colonies were taking after the roman empire from their art to architecture (even kid's names) and united states government was modeled after the roman empire and senate ?
yes. i was wrong. 99% of the other documents that are out, do not show varying levels of filth... and what is revolving this planet at this moment, is a giant ball of gum, not the moon.
so, grabbing a foreign country's citizen in some other part of the world and kidnapping it, and possibly torturing it, and then threatening that country regarding arrest of those who did the kidnapping, and then coming up and rephrasing it in a beautified manner, wasnt illegal enough for you ?
with your mindset, i wouldnt what to know what constitutes 'illegal' for you.
Yep - so they should have published that incident. And incidents like it. What about the other 99% of the documents?
99% of the other documents that are out, show varying levels of filth. there is filth still. and heaven knows how much filth there is going to be yet.
The country deserves what it gets? Even when "what it gets" may be setbacks in international relations that damage not only US and its citizens, but can also serve as the spark that sets of far worse than a diplomatic crisis between other nations? The people who supposedly "pre-deserve" are only one party among the many who will pay.
excuse me, but judging from the amount of filth perpetrated, us is currently the biggest creator of all incidents, causes and issues worldwide. strictest regimes pale in comparison.
Dumping this data on the world is like that phrase, "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out."
there is no easy way to do this. if, you engage in any kind of filtering, eventually mechanisms that will filter out most of the information will be created by the countries or private interests. shit, should get out, as it is.
it was a long time coming already. there should be no secrets. the time of 'secrets' in regard to military or national security matters, is long gone. now every country knows at precisely what our the sentries of an important watchtower is rotating, thanks to the military satellites. all countries know, who is cabling what to whom, secretly and diplomatically, thanks to the monitoring technologies developed since the electronics age.
so, basically, your enemy knows you, you know your enemy and everyone knows what everyone else is doing.
the ONLY party not knowing what's happening has been the citizens. us. the people.
Sure, but you have to realize that the lives of the patricians are worth more than the lives of the plebs, and the lives of the plebs are worth more than the lives of the subjet peoples.
wow. you put it quite aptly indeed. indeed usa takes WAY too much after the roman empire in most respects. from architecture, to its political mechanisms, to its culture.
korea doesnt lie about its shit. it kills its citizens for disobeying the state flat out. doesnt even feel the need to rephrase it.
china does the same. executes people. doesnt put pretenses.
only countries which are pretending to be for good, but committing evil deeds and having to hide them, are western countries so far. even in a 3rd world banana republic the dictators kill people for disobeying them, or 'for the nation'. they dont pretend that they did it for 'freedom'.
yees. because torture isnt mentioned, it possibly didnt happen. all those detaining centers, contractors, holdings in 3rd party countries, guantanamo etc were just for show.
and, it is all ok if torture didnt happen right. its so normal that some other country comes and kidnaps you in the middle of new york, and flies you abroad, for example.
if that happened, you americans would be going livid. but now, you are trying to play down kidnapping of a german citizen by giving us bullshit.
Every government in the world has secrets and, believe it or not, the welfare and security of their populations depend on these secrets.
every government has secrets. but, few of them lie about what they are doing, and hide their filth behind an excuse of fighting for 'freedom and security of the world and its citizens'. its outright lie.
north korea kills its citizens. it doesnt pretend to be doing it for freedom. china executes journalists. it doesnt say its doing it for freedom.
they are being repressive and brutal, bluntly, and flat out. they are not LYING about it.
but here we have usa. repressing and killing people worldwide, propagating filth, and saying that it is doing those for freedom.
that is what is the problem. had they come out and said 'we want to build an empire, and we are doing these for that end', i would even have respected them, because then they would be having the balls to declare what they were doing. its brutal honesty and conviction.
but they arent. they are killing and murdering people, kidnapping and torturing them, FOR freedom. see the irony ?
I am not American but I do see the value of keeping certain opinions and point of views undisclosed.
that is what exactly allowed usa continue to kidnapping people worldwide, and torturing them overseas. that 'secret' concept. secrecy allowed them to pose themselves as being right, pursuing liberty and modern principles, while TOTALLY violating all of them.
The problem is not america being incompetent in hiding their crimes. It is the fact that they are committing those crimes, while CLAIMING to be fighting for 'freedom' and 'security' of people, even the entire planet.
its lying, and hypocrisy at it best. if it came out that china was killing people on the spot, noone would give much credence. because, they arent actually hiding that they are doing it.
but america was not only hiding, but also LYING about it. this is what people dont like.
I'm all for the "information wants to be free" mantra, but when it can come to a considerable cost to others, the disclosure can't wipe their hands completely of responsibility. Airing a politician's dirty laundry is one thing, but releasing documents that may have names of people that may be endangered unawares should be handled with some discretion.
considerable cost. like the one below ?
Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official “that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.”
excuse me, but any country, anyone, engaging in shit like the above, already pre-deserved any cost they are going to pay. people reap, what they saw. the only thing preventing the people in administration from reaping what they sow was that these were being hidden behind secrecy with 'national security' excuses.
and now, they came out, and they are saying that 'its irresponsible'. actually meaning 'inconvenient' of course, since they are those who are responsible for the filth exposed. they wouldnt like it to come out.
there can be responsible disclosure, in matters in which people HAVE responsibility. a group in an administration that grabs people worldwide, kidnaps them, tortures them, and says that they are doing this 'for freedom', deserves NO responsibility regarding disclosure of their matters.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called the leak "not just an attack on America's foreign policy interests, it is an attack on the international community."
somehow it suddenly became an attack on 'international community'.
says the secretary of the country that grabbed german citizens in germany and tortured them abroad.
Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official "that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S."
if, exposing the above filth was an 'attack on international community' what the fuck was going and grabbing german citizens in germany and torturing them abroad ?
filth. nothing but filth. and if ANYone listens to their bullshit about 'risking countless lives and freedom', they will be able to perpetuate that shit. notice - freedom. freedom of grabbing people abroad and torturing, she means, probably.
"WikiLeaks is putting at risk the lives and the freedom of countless Americans and non-Americans around the world."
COUNTLESS they say. countless as in, a few hundred, tops. compared to 66.000+ (official no, unofficial probably higher) dead in iraq, unknown number dead in afghanistan, unknown number lost in the hands of cia, nsa and ice. (even inside usa - http://www.thenation.com/article/americas-secret-ice-castles )
and they come up with long-repeated, surefire bullshit 'putting countless lives at risk' -> vague enough too, you can never calculate how many lives lost and compare it to those who got killed while chasing a wild goose under false pretenses in afghan mountains or iraq plains.
but that's all fancy talk. what they are basically saying, bluntly and in streetspeak is :
"Let us continue doing our filth behind the veil of secrecy by biting the bait of 'risk of freedom and lives'"
difference ? chinese pretend to be abc com for their own aims, usa 'legally' grabs domains pretending to anyone worldwide, for their own aims. not to mention that, it makes the law that legalizes it.
possibly apple zealots will que in reply to this post to provide innumerable justifications - but you know, dont. there is only so many excuses you can give until something hits rock bottom. the wise man perceives the rate and way things are going, and foresees rock bottom. and the rate things are going with this apple control mania, is bad.
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.... to make certain components of those systems upgradeable. say, like cpu. say, memory. say, maybe gpu. even if the upgrades would be limited, they would still allow more wiggle room for the console owners, and also help progress of both gaming and consoles with new generation upgradeable items. because the items would only bring processing power/memory/whatever, it wouldnt require any significant changes.
they could use oem parts, they could do their chips themselves. in any case, they would be able to sell more frequently, rather than the spikes they are having every release, and then dying out.
and that would help the gaming progress faster than it is doing now. we are all waiting 5 year cycles of consoles to catch up to go up a notch even in pc gaming, because all developers have to accommodate consoles too.
doggone ?
if something fails continually and unstoppably, it means that, it does NOT work.
there is no 'design of secrecy'. EVERY country now knows each others' secrets. spy satellites, wiretapping, private interests and interest networks. all governments know what each other is doing.
the only ones this 'secrecy' thing is being effective against, are the citizens.
that was reported YEARS ago, by media because of a lawsuit filed by a rights group. it was 'reported'. it wasnt confirmed. now, the leaks CONFIRM it, officially from u.s. government.
Everyone is acting like Wikileaks is some sort of heroic whistleblower that is exposing corruption in Government
in the current state of our civilization and its matters, wikileaks is the closest to the whistleblower hero, you can get.
if they didnt want to end up this way, they shouldnt have used the secrecy of diplomacy and the concept of 'state secret' to propagate filth. its as simple as that.
idiots who have no knowledge of history to know that, american colonies were taking after the roman empire from their art to architecture (even kid's names) and united states government was modeled after the roman empire and senate ?
ignorance at best.
as long as the 'need for secrecy' is kept, there will be those who manipulate it for their own benefit.
secrets havent worked so far. they do not work. it is not logical to keep that concept.
that came out 4 years ago through german channels. now it is confirmed by u.s.'s own cables itself. thats the difference.
yes. i was wrong. 99% of the other documents that are out, do not show varying levels of filth ... and what is revolving this planet at this moment, is a giant ball of gum, not the moon.
please, fuck off.
it happened to other people. whether it happened to germans is irrelevant.
get out of the cave you are living in. or stop watching american news channels.
http://www.google.com/search?q=cia+kidnaps+and+tortures&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aqY5RMOCoXjE&refer=us
so, grabbing a foreign country's citizen in some other part of the world and kidnapping it, and possibly torturing it, and then threatening that country regarding arrest of those who did the kidnapping, and then coming up and rephrasing it in a beautified manner, wasnt illegal enough for you ?
with your mindset, i wouldnt what to know what constitutes 'illegal' for you.
Yep - so they should have published that incident. And incidents like it. What about the other 99% of the documents?
99% of the other documents that are out, show varying levels of filth. there is filth still. and heaven knows how much filth there is going to be yet.
The country deserves what it gets? Even when "what it gets" may be setbacks in international relations that damage not only US and its citizens, but can also serve as the spark that sets of far worse than a diplomatic crisis between other nations? The people who supposedly "pre-deserve" are only one party among the many who will pay.
excuse me, but judging from the amount of filth perpetrated, us is currently the biggest creator of all incidents, causes and issues worldwide. strictest regimes pale in comparison.
Dumping this data on the world is like that phrase, "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out."
there is no easy way to do this. if, you engage in any kind of filtering, eventually mechanisms that will filter out most of the information will be created by the countries or private interests. shit, should get out, as it is.
it was a long time coming already. there should be no secrets. the time of 'secrets' in regard to military or national security matters, is long gone. now every country knows at precisely what our the sentries of an important watchtower is rotating, thanks to the military satellites. all countries know, who is cabling what to whom, secretly and diplomatically, thanks to the monitoring technologies developed since the electronics age.
so, basically, your enemy knows you, you know your enemy and everyone knows what everyone else is doing.
the ONLY party not knowing what's happening has been the citizens. us. the people.
it was high time that we learned.
Sure, but you have to realize that the lives of the patricians are worth more than the lives of the plebs, and the lives of the plebs are worth more than the lives of the subjet peoples.
wow. you put it quite aptly indeed. indeed usa takes WAY too much after the roman empire in most respects. from architecture, to its political mechanisms, to its culture.
no. youre just fooling yourself.
korea doesnt lie about its shit. it kills its citizens for disobeying the state flat out. doesnt even feel the need to rephrase it.
china does the same. executes people. doesnt put pretenses.
only countries which are pretending to be for good, but committing evil deeds and having to hide them, are western countries so far. even in a 3rd world banana republic the dictators kill people for disobeying them, or 'for the nation'. they dont pretend that they did it for 'freedom'.
yees. because torture isnt mentioned, it possibly didnt happen. all those detaining centers, contractors, holdings in 3rd party countries, guantanamo etc were just for show.
and, it is all ok if torture didnt happen right. its so normal that some other country comes and kidnaps you in the middle of new york, and flies you abroad, for example.
if that happened, you americans would be going livid. but now, you are trying to play down kidnapping of a german citizen by giving us bullshit.
be less self centered.
Every government in the world has secrets and, believe it or not, the welfare and security of their populations depend on these secrets.
every government has secrets. but, few of them lie about what they are doing, and hide their filth behind an excuse of fighting for 'freedom and security of the world and its citizens'. its outright lie.
north korea kills its citizens. it doesnt pretend to be doing it for freedom. china executes journalists. it doesnt say its doing it for freedom.
they are being repressive and brutal, bluntly, and flat out. they are not LYING about it.
but here we have usa. repressing and killing people worldwide, propagating filth, and saying that it is doing those for freedom.
that is what is the problem. had they come out and said 'we want to build an empire, and we are doing these for that end', i would even have respected them, because then they would be having the balls to declare what they were doing. its brutal honesty and conviction.
but they arent. they are killing and murdering people, kidnapping and torturing them, FOR freedom. see the irony ?
I am not American but I do see the value of keeping certain opinions and point of views undisclosed.
that is what exactly allowed usa continue to kidnapping people worldwide, and torturing them overseas. that 'secret' concept. secrecy allowed them to pose themselves as being right, pursuing liberty and modern principles, while TOTALLY violating all of them.
no. nothing should be secret. nothing.
The problem is not america being incompetent in hiding their crimes. It is the fact that they are committing those crimes, while CLAIMING to be fighting for 'freedom' and 'security' of people, even the entire planet.
its lying, and hypocrisy at it best. if it came out that china was killing people on the spot, noone would give much credence. because, they arent actually hiding that they are doing it.
but america was not only hiding, but also LYING about it. this is what people dont like.
I'm all for the "information wants to be free" mantra, but when it can come to a considerable cost to others, the disclosure can't wipe their hands completely of responsibility. Airing a politician's dirty laundry is one thing, but releasing documents that may have names of people that may be endangered unawares should be handled with some discretion.
considerable cost. like the one below ?
Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official “that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp
excuse me, but any country, anyone, engaging in shit like the above, already pre-deserved any cost they are going to pay. people reap, what they saw. the only thing preventing the people in administration from reaping what they sow was that these were being hidden behind secrecy with 'national security' excuses.
and now, they came out, and they are saying that 'its irresponsible'. actually meaning 'inconvenient' of course, since they are those who are responsible for the filth exposed. they wouldnt like it to come out.
there can be responsible disclosure, in matters in which people HAVE responsibility. a group in an administration that grabs people worldwide, kidnaps them, tortures them, and says that they are doing this 'for freedom', deserves NO responsibility regarding disclosure of their matters.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called the leak "not just an attack on America's foreign policy interests, it is an attack on the international community."
somehow it suddenly became an attack on 'international community'.
says the secretary of the country that grabbed german citizens in germany and tortured them abroad.
Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official "that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp
if, exposing the above filth was an 'attack on international community' what the fuck was going and grabbing german citizens in germany and torturing them abroad ?
filth. nothing but filth. and if ANYone listens to their bullshit about 'risking countless lives and freedom', they will be able to perpetuate that shit. notice - freedom. freedom of grabbing people abroad and torturing, she means, probably.
"WikiLeaks is putting at risk the lives and the freedom of countless Americans and non-Americans around the world."
COUNTLESS they say. countless as in, a few hundred, tops. compared to 66.000+ (official no, unofficial probably higher) dead in iraq, unknown number dead in afghanistan, unknown number lost in the hands of cia, nsa and ice. (even inside usa - http://www.thenation.com/article/americas-secret-ice-castles )
.....
and they come up with long-repeated, surefire bullshit 'putting countless lives at risk' -> vague enough too, you can never calculate how many lives lost and compare it to those who got killed while chasing a wild goose under false pretenses in afghan mountains or iraq plains.
but that's all fancy talk. what they are basically saying, bluntly and in streetspeak is :
"Let us continue doing our filth behind the veil of secrecy by biting the bait of 'risk of freedom and lives'"
difference ? chinese pretend to be abc com for their own aims, usa 'legally' grabs domains pretending to anyone worldwide, for their own aims. not to mention that, it makes the law that legalizes it.
possibly apple zealots will que in reply to this post to provide innumerable justifications - but you know, dont. there is only so many excuses you can give until something hits rock bottom. the wise man perceives the rate and way things are going, and foresees rock bottom. and the rate things are going with this apple control mania, is bad.
So can we now hang spies (those that hand our secret information to others) from the nearest tree?
benedict arnold wasnt hanged.
what you speak of would be true, if your country was true to its founding ideals, rather than being a bitch at the hands of rich private interests.