you may be born before me, but, apparently im still much older than you, since i have better comprehension. find me one pointer in the post you replied, which points to you as the person who is fresh out of college. or, is understanding posts from one's ass an oldtimer specialty ?
yea i called you an idiot, because you are not using an ounce of brainpower before shooting off an argument. the other option would be to take you as a disrespectful troll, and cut talking with you. instead, im calling you idiot. you can transplant naive, fool, rookie, whatever you want in place of it. they all point to the same point :
blackwater company is a PRIVATE group which was allowed to do business as mercenaries. they are able to set up a private army, BECAUSE government has allowed establishment of private armies. basically, government 'privatized' the 'military sector'. its quite 'free market' and its quite 'ayn rand'.
before government allowed their creation, private individuals wouldnt be able to set up armies. it was forbidden. government allowed this to happen, so now private individuals can set up armies, under the guise of "security contractors". a new business field has opened up, thats great, in line with 'free market'. after all free market should regulate it, shouldnt it.
but now, there ARE private armies, owned and directed by private individuals. blackwater had contracted with government in iraq, but heaven knows how many other newly spawned private 'security contractors' have contracted which wealthy individuals or corporations or interests for doing what.
so now, a megacorporation which owns some percentage of a state as private assets in someplace in usa, can actually hire a private army and put them there, for 'security'.
first contractor being the government is irrelevant. what matters is, allowing creation of private armies. that means, military, army, is no longer in government monopoly, and private individuals can set up private armies.
over the last 5 years, all i have seen had been hourlies for php coders get higher and higher. now even indian outsourcing companies charge much higher rates compared to 5 years ago.
businesses do not have police power ? what do you think the private security firms are ? hell, in the last decade, that even reached private ARMY scale. blackwater is better equipped than any united states army platoon. already many companies take care of 'security' in their holdings...
there is no difference in between your lifestyle vs the civilization standards of this day, and the life of a medieval peasant vs civilization standards of that day. that is because every kind of 'freedom' in the society you live, is basically tied to money. you can enjoy your freedoms only as much as you have your money.
just like how the medieval peasants couldnt afford to go to a university city to see a real physician then, you cannot afford to go to switzerland to get treated by the best. start from this apex point, and go to the lowest point, and you will see that the amenities offered to you compared to the state of civilization havent changed, actually deteriorated since middle ages. in middle ages at least there was the guarantee of food and livelihood.
Adam Smith pointed out the need for regulation to avoid exactly that fate.
can you provide a link to a source. it would be great to clear out some misconceptions in future discussions.
tho, regulation can never be enough. any group will grow as large as the society allows them. if you allow them to be as large as a country (like the 6-9 companies that dominate the world's biggest economic entities list in top 13), they will eventually become as powerful as countries.
of course you can. if you word it correctly while applying for the patent, you can own a genre even before it starts. saints row can happen, because gta didnt patent the genre by the way. but, some company will eventually attempt it.
i have exhausted my quota of debating against ayn rand bullshit a few posts ago. i wont be able to reply to you. other than that, all these are 'if this happens, if that happens', invisible hand etc are no different than belief in miracles of our lady of santa maria da rosaria and catholic church.
dear fool, WHAT identifies a government, and a corporation ?
if, a private entity owns all rights to a vast swath of land, all the resources and amenities that come from that swath of land, any rights that can be conceived over that land, arent they de facto ruler of that land ?
so, if someone owns a vast swath of land as large as idaho or arkansas, then arent they de facto the government of that land ? because they own all rights to it.
it is even the case today. the ONLY thing that is limiting their sovereignty there, are the laws that GOVERNMENT put out. if those laws had not been there, they would be able to do anything with that tract of land. its as simple as that. if they said that 'no people will drink water in this land, without paying to us', everyone would have to abide. if they said 'noone will be able to make homes in hilltops', they would have the right to it. if they said 'we are going to sell all the iron in this land to pygmies', it would happen.
so, if you take the government out of the picture, any owner of anything becomes RULERS of what they own. its as simple as that. there is no discussing this. this was the historical foundation of feudalism and aristocracy. im not even saying this is a fact - this is the way things, societal dynamics work. if you let anything happen, you will eventually see some parties overpower others, and rule over them, in any manner conceivable.
yours is just conditioned belief. you are either young, in or fresh out of college, or indoctrinated, or stupid. no offense, these are the potential possibilities.
there wasnt any government interference back in early 19th century to late 19th century. and, at the end of that period, america ended up being owned by FOUR persons, which can be named even today. vanderbilt to rockefeller.
the only way to prevent that, has been the regulations theodore roosevelt put.
simply ; in a dog eat dog world, you end up with one very fat dog.
yes. instead, we should type everything over and over again, for any fresh out of college, indoctrinated youngster that comes into slashdot and blabbers some 'ayn rand'.
But the internet has very low barriers to entry, making it easy for small players like a couple of college kids to go big time (facebook, google, etc).
internet HAD low barriers to entry, they are higher, and getting higher every day.
The next big thing could arrive any day. We don't know what it is because we are not there yet.
yeah, and this is the only phase where capitalism works - a new land rush. its not a stable system. it requires constant land rushes. and after every land rush, it reverts back to feudalism. so, the only ones who are enjoying the system are those on top, and the ones that can join a land rush, which are always a minority. in every land rush there are more losers than a winner.
irrelevant. even if there was no credit, in the long run all the assets would consolidate at the hands of more successful competitors. that is even assuming they started off equally, which is never the case.
like what other industry ? the publishing industry ? which is dominated by approx. 4 groups ? the broadcasting ? which is dominated by 4 groups again ? music ? 4 groups ? movie ? 4 groups ? cleaner products ? even less groups ? oil ? even less ?
ironically most of the above groups in different industries are either the same, or subsidiaries of bigger holdings.
what was about that 'come and go' bullshit again ? apparently they have come, and not going anywhere.
free market is what tends towards monopolies eventually. because there is competition, and nothing to prevent the big players from getting bigger, unless they make a HUGE mistake, all 'free' markets only function as free for all initial chaos environments until a hierarchy and order is established. as per the below post :
its being exaggerated way too much here, and app sales for various phones are also good, but, is this 'mobilization' really as it is exaggerated to be in these articles ? i dont see anyone frantically tweeting, doing status updates in facebook this or that anymore. except kids, whom i also suspect are texting more than they are 'integrating' their various social website accounts.
really. sometimes i think we tech people make up our silly, shitty, irrelevant fads and then get adversely affected ourselves after all the dust clears out.
its not about 'differentiating'. i can differentiate in between them. the thing is THERE IS NOT MUCH TO DIFFERENTIATE. only 4 types of taste. compared to the taste difference in between countless vegetables and fruit ingredients, meat comes up pathetic in variety array.
and foremost of these reasons is the future. with proprietary software, you dont know what will happen in future. your vendor-locked app may be dropped by the supporting company, or, the company can go down under even. you may end up with an app that a lot of people in your organization is using, but now derelict. that goes for all kinds of software. see whats happening to ie6. a lot of big companies have modified it according to their needs, but, now the company that made it is trying to kill it. its more critical for o/s and other stuff.
secondly, cost. with free software, your costs will keep going down and down, and with proprietary, up and up. if you let windows or a similar company which has aggressive vendors to get into your organization from any point and establish themselves, they will push more and more lock-in stuff, your costs will go high and they will practically infest your i.t. you will have to walk any step by engaging with vendors, wont be able to take any decisions on your own independently.
third, and one of the most important, security, and moddability. with free software, your organization will be free to do any modification you want, according to WHATEVER need you have. you wont have to fight with vendors in order to get a half assed solution for your problem, and be prevented from modifying a small bit of code in their proprietary app that you could modify and fix your problem. and, it will cost money.
security is another concern, and it doesnt even need detailing. with free software, any vulnerability will be patchable as soon as they are out. (or you discover them). with proprietary - yeah, you need to wait for vendors, or the parent company to fix them, sitting vulnerable or trying to find intermediate measures to defend your company's ass from attacks while huge companies like microsoft take their slow time for fixing the thing. and another thing - if they think some particular thing is low priority - you are screwed. they may fix it in months, and you may live through the hell of defending/securing your apps without having any access to the code.
so, in for future investment, one should always go with free software. for, EVEN if a free software app totally goes bust, you can still have it, and run it, if your organization is TOO dependent on it.
wow yeah !! they are different. pork, lamb, cow. they are so different that, the dishes made by each of them are.... wait, THEY ALL TASTE THE SAME WHATEVER YOU PUT THEM IN, and there are only 4-5 categories.
moreover, meat always has the protein taste undertone, and dominates any food it is put into.
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you may be born before me, but, apparently im still much older than you, since i have better comprehension. find me one pointer in the post you replied, which points to you as the person who is fresh out of college. or, is understanding posts from one's ass an oldtimer specialty ?
idiot.
yea i called you an idiot, because you are not using an ounce of brainpower before shooting off an argument. the other option would be to take you as a disrespectful troll, and cut talking with you. instead, im calling you idiot. you can transplant naive, fool, rookie, whatever you want in place of it. they all point to the same point :
blackwater company is a PRIVATE group which was allowed to do business as mercenaries. they are able to set up a private army, BECAUSE government has allowed establishment of private armies. basically, government 'privatized' the 'military sector'. its quite 'free market' and its quite 'ayn rand'.
before government allowed their creation, private individuals wouldnt be able to set up armies. it was forbidden. government allowed this to happen, so now private individuals can set up armies, under the guise of "security contractors". a new business field has opened up, thats great, in line with 'free market'. after all free market should regulate it, shouldnt it.
but now, there ARE private armies, owned and directed by private individuals. blackwater had contracted with government in iraq, but heaven knows how many other newly spawned private 'security contractors' have contracted which wealthy individuals or corporations or interests for doing what.
so now, a megacorporation which owns some percentage of a state as private assets in someplace in usa, can actually hire a private army and put them there, for 'security'.
first contractor being the government is irrelevant. what matters is, allowing creation of private armies. that means, military, army, is no longer in government monopoly, and private individuals can set up private armies.
over the last 5 years, all i have seen had been hourlies for php coders get higher and higher. now even indian outsourcing companies charge much higher rates compared to 5 years ago.
businesses do not have police power ? what do you think the private security firms are ? hell, in the last decade, that even reached private ARMY scale. blackwater is better equipped than any united states army platoon. already many companies take care of 'security' in their holdings ...
...
such naivete
there is no difference in between your lifestyle vs the civilization standards of this day, and the life of a medieval peasant vs civilization standards of that day. that is because every kind of 'freedom' in the society you live, is basically tied to money. you can enjoy your freedoms only as much as you have your money.
just like how the medieval peasants couldnt afford to go to a university city to see a real physician then, you cannot afford to go to switzerland to get treated by the best. start from this apex point, and go to the lowest point, and you will see that the amenities offered to you compared to the state of civilization havent changed, actually deteriorated since middle ages. in middle ages at least there was the guarantee of food and livelihood.
Adam Smith pointed out the need for regulation to avoid exactly that fate.
can you provide a link to a source. it would be great to clear out some misconceptions in future discussions.
tho, regulation can never be enough. any group will grow as large as the society allows them. if you allow them to be as large as a country (like the 6-9 companies that dominate the world's biggest economic entities list in top 13), they will eventually become as powerful as countries.
of course you can. if you word it correctly while applying for the patent, you can own a genre even before it starts. saints row can happen, because gta didnt patent the genre by the way. but, some company will eventually attempt it.
i have exhausted my quota of debating against ayn rand bullshit a few posts ago. i wont be able to reply to you. other than that, all these are 'if this happens, if that happens', invisible hand etc are no different than belief in miracles of our lady of santa maria da rosaria and catholic church.
its belief.
dear fool, WHAT identifies a government, and a corporation ?
if, a private entity owns all rights to a vast swath of land, all the resources and amenities that come from that swath of land, any rights that can be conceived over that land, arent they de facto ruler of that land ?
so, if someone owns a vast swath of land as large as idaho or arkansas, then arent they de facto the government of that land ? because they own all rights to it.
it is even the case today. the ONLY thing that is limiting their sovereignty there, are the laws that GOVERNMENT put out. if those laws had not been there, they would be able to do anything with that tract of land. its as simple as that. if they said that 'no people will drink water in this land, without paying to us', everyone would have to abide. if they said 'noone will be able to make homes in hilltops', they would have the right to it. if they said 'we are going to sell all the iron in this land to pygmies', it would happen.
so, if you take the government out of the picture, any owner of anything becomes RULERS of what they own. its as simple as that. there is no discussing this. this was the historical foundation of feudalism and aristocracy. im not even saying this is a fact - this is the way things, societal dynamics work. if you let anything happen, you will eventually see some parties overpower others, and rule over them, in any manner conceivable.
read some history, and less right wing bullshit.
yours is just conditioned belief. you are either young, in or fresh out of college, or indoctrinated, or stupid. no offense, these are the potential possibilities.
there wasnt any government interference back in early 19th century to late 19th century. and, at the end of that period, america ended up being owned by FOUR persons, which can be named even today. vanderbilt to rockefeller.
the only way to prevent that, has been the regulations theodore roosevelt put.
simply ; in a dog eat dog world, you end up with one very fat dog.
read the below post.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1847700&cid=34083272
i havent seen it put shorter, more precise than this. a very fat dog eh.
Way to pimp your own post...
yes. instead, we should type everything over and over again, for any fresh out of college, indoctrinated youngster that comes into slashdot and blabbers some 'ayn rand'.
But the internet has very low barriers to entry, making it easy for small players like a couple of college kids to go big time (facebook, google, etc).
internet HAD low barriers to entry, they are higher, and getting higher every day.
The next big thing could arrive any day. We don't know what it is because we are not there yet.
yeah, and this is the only phase where capitalism works - a new land rush. its not a stable system. it requires constant land rushes. and after every land rush, it reverts back to feudalism. so, the only ones who are enjoying the system are those on top, and the ones that can join a land rush, which are always a minority. in every land rush there are more losers than a winner.
quit living in the dream world.
irrelevant. even if there was no credit, in the long run all the assets would consolidate at the hands of more successful competitors. that is even assuming they started off equally, which is never the case.
read the post i linked down in the grandparent.
like what other industry ? the publishing industry ? which is dominated by approx. 4 groups ? the broadcasting ? which is dominated by 4 groups again ? music ? 4 groups ? movie ? 4 groups ? cleaner products ? even less groups ? oil ? even less ?
ironically most of the above groups in different industries are either the same, or subsidiaries of bigger holdings.
what was about that 'come and go' bullshit again ? apparently they have come, and not going anywhere.
free market is what tends towards monopolies eventually. because there is competition, and nothing to prevent the big players from getting bigger, unless they make a HUGE mistake, all 'free' markets only function as free for all initial chaos environments until a hierarchy and order is established. as per the below post :
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1847700&cid=34083272
this discussion has deteriorated. no point in continuing it. in addition, you know little about military, military technology.
its being exaggerated way too much here, and app sales for various phones are also good, but, is this 'mobilization' really as it is exaggerated to be in these articles ? i dont see anyone frantically tweeting, doing status updates in facebook this or that anymore. except kids, whom i also suspect are texting more than they are 'integrating' their various social website accounts.
really. sometimes i think we tech people make up our silly, shitty, irrelevant fads and then get adversely affected ourselves after all the dust clears out.
80 k a month to perfectly polish a product. excuse me, but if this is broken, there are a lot of companies who want that kind of brokenness.
you got a lot of bugs in your apps fixed with just $20,000, and in one week, and you are bitching about it. its just $80k/month, at this state.
every one of those low priority bugs could be driving off a user or a customer at this point, had they not been fixed.
yeah. 4 types to differentiate, and there are, what, FOUR of them to be differentiate.
i cant start even telling that, that limits the things that can be differentiated, TO FOUR.
and if this is what you are advertising meat to me over, really, dont bother.
its not about 'differentiating'. i can differentiate in between them. the thing is THERE IS NOT MUCH TO DIFFERENTIATE. only 4 types of taste. compared to the taste difference in between countless vegetables and fruit ingredients, meat comes up pathetic in variety array.
because it is insightful.
and foremost of these reasons is the future. with proprietary software, you dont know what will happen in future. your vendor-locked app may be dropped by the supporting company, or, the company can go down under even. you may end up with an app that a lot of people in your organization is using, but now derelict. that goes for all kinds of software. see whats happening to ie6. a lot of big companies have modified it according to their needs, but, now the company that made it is trying to kill it. its more critical for o/s and other stuff.
secondly, cost. with free software, your costs will keep going down and down, and with proprietary, up and up. if you let windows or a similar company which has aggressive vendors to get into your organization from any point and establish themselves, they will push more and more lock-in stuff, your costs will go high and they will practically infest your i.t. you will have to walk any step by engaging with vendors, wont be able to take any decisions on your own independently.
third, and one of the most important, security, and moddability. with free software, your organization will be free to do any modification you want, according to WHATEVER need you have. you wont have to fight with vendors in order to get a half assed solution for your problem, and be prevented from modifying a small bit of code in their proprietary app that you could modify and fix your problem. and, it will cost money.
security is another concern, and it doesnt even need detailing. with free software, any vulnerability will be patchable as soon as they are out. (or you discover them). with proprietary - yeah, you need to wait for vendors, or the parent company to fix them, sitting vulnerable or trying to find intermediate measures to defend your company's ass from attacks while huge companies like microsoft take their slow time for fixing the thing. and another thing - if they think some particular thing is low priority - you are screwed. they may fix it in months, and you may live through the hell of defending/securing your apps without having any access to the code.
so, in for future investment, one should always go with free software. for, EVEN if a free software app totally goes bust, you can still have it, and run it, if your organization is TOO dependent on it.
thats what i was trying to say.
wow yeah !! they are different. pork, lamb, cow. they are so different that, the dishes made by each of them are .... wait, THEY ALL TASTE THE SAME WHATEVER YOU PUT THEM IN, and there are only 4-5 categories.
moreover, meat always has the protein taste undertone, and dominates any food it is put into.