it has become so in early antiquity, and it has not change since. it just transformed and translated to other mediums. it was raw arm power first. then it became religious power. then it become aristocratic power. then it became wealth.
if you track a 'serial number' of a device enough, you can easily map the tracked to particular persons after you amass a certain size of data. this is what websites are doing.
I'm not so sure about UDID giving away no more privacy than IP.
IP doesn't identify a single device, thanks to NATs and dynamic pools and conversely same device isn't bound to single IP, it's many to many relation. To track someone specific you need more than his IP, like a cookie, for example. And many indeed disable browser cookies for this very reason, just as you propose.
UDID, on the other hand, is a strict one to one relation, it's unchangeable, linked to single device and can't be disabled. UDID is much better suitable for tracking and collating info across different sources. Add a little bit more, and you're tracking a user even after a new phone purchase.
The problem with the idea that it's all capitalism's fault is that any system can be perverted
'any system being susceptible to perversion' is not an excuse to employ a system that encourages accumulating and using power. that's what capitalism does.
With a proper system of taxation and a matching rate of inflation you solve the problem of people hoarding cash without giving anything back to the system that enabled them to do so in the first place.
you are still ignoring inconvenient truth : those who have the hoards of cash, will not stand by while you try to undo their power (wealth). they already shaped system into what they desire, and to undo it, you will need to stage a semi-revolution. and when you actually 'balance' the capitalism by introducing sufficient amount of its antithesis (socialism) in the system so that abuse will become less, you will have just reset the clock. those who are wealthier will again start turning the system around to their advantage through the power (wealth) you have not neutralized.
the catch here is not 'not giving something back to system' or else - the catch here is, some minority being able to hold disproportionate amount of power. if they have it, they will use it.
yeees. the competitors, who would be following the same practice because it makes more money for them too. and also 'industry practice'.................
as long as stupid people like you exist, who think that there is 'some great plains out there to which you can just move on'............
well, you just deserve being exploited. this is all that what you say portrays.
I reject the notion that capitalism is inherently bad. It can be a great convenience
and that is the reason why we suffer these abuses. your refusal can not change the mechanics of a social dynamic. if you allow individuals and groups to accumulate power in any fashion - be it wealth, political, or military, they will eventually use that power to subdue others. this, has never been different in the history of this planet. sure, it may be convenient - feudalism was also very convenient for peasants - lords had to go to wars, whereas peasants were safe back in the villages. but, it was still subservience. and not surprisingly, the lords had eventually turned the thing around in 1-2 centuries and changed even that.
those businesses will start behaving exactly like these, when one of companies like these come and start competing with them with these methods. they have no choice. otherwise they would go under.
allowing bad behavior, forces others to the same behavior.
Gotta get with the times. There's no such thing as corporate responsibility. How the money is made, where it comes from, and what the consequences of making it are, are all problems left for everyone else to deal with. There's only quarterly earnings, year over year growth, and valuation. Get in, make a boatload, and pray to your local diety you get out before the whole system comes crashing down on the heads of all the less fortunate ones who couldn't get out in time.
congrats. you have grasped the precise essence of capitalism.
The really ironic thing is, supposedly laws are to supposed to remove 'might makes right' from disputes in a civilized society, and move disagreements to a courtroom where they can be decided in a rational way without bloodshed.
you didnt 'come' to that point. you never left that point. the actual might which made the medieval ages, was never dropped - property ownership and wealth. only, the method changed. back then the wealthier used more goons to overwhelm the poorer, now they use lawyers. the 'might makes right' tribal justice was much more just than the actual 'might makes right' justice of feudal power. at least, you could somehow win against a single person with the tribal law. with medieval might makes right, there is always another goon serving the lord who could smack you after you took one down.
Interestingly enough, that is how radical and terrorist groups are created: the disenfranchisement of a group from society because it feels it has no voice
except that the 'group' currently disenfranchised from society is around 95%. the only thing preventing what you speak of, is that most of them think that they have a place in the system, due to conditioning and brainwashing by media.
the concept of property ownership, is already the very definition of feudal ownership - there is a certain point where ownership passes across the 'personal' small belongings to the point of being a domain. owning over a certain amount of land, owning over a certain amount of controlling share in some corporation that controls an important field of life (gsm, internet, tv) makes the holders practical feudal lords. they become de facto owners of a field of life/amenity/resource that the majority of public needs, and which can be used to herd the public accordingly.
actually, in the case of megacorporations, this passes the level of feudal small domain holder level and becomes a full fledged dukedom - commanding hundreds of thousands of people and immense variety and amount of resources across oceans.
and all of these are inherited. it is alright in opening stages of a capitalist economy, when there can be still competition because the wealth ownership has not consolidated yet, but in later stages, it becomes what we have now - a small minority holding vast swaths of activity in life collectively. and this gets inherited perpetually. at this point you de facto have an oligarchy, or a proto-aristocracy.
in the case of fascism, political control is commanded by someone supported by these. that person just becomes the emperor of the patricians in rome in a sense. and one stage later you transition to an aristocracy, with dukes, lords already established long ago, now just entitled and named.
thats the point you burn with a fiery desire to get on top of the table, pull out your johnson and piss around on the faces of all participants...............
you sit in front of a tv, you click the remote, you watch the channel. that's what tv is. there is no more 'experience' in it. neither does a person coming home from work and dinner want an 'experience' to come out of their tv. they just want to click and watch.
same goes for oses. 'user experience'. what ? i just want to click on my program, and use it. i dont want any 'experience' happening in between.
hell, even internet. i have been on internet since it got out of the hen (1993-94), i have been on the first wave on everything ranging from multiplayer games to irc to webmaster culture to mmos, i have been an overclocker, and let me tell you :
when im on internet, i use at most 10 websites, play the same game, use the same software to do development, use the same instant messengers....... you get the picture.
im not looking for any 'experience'.
if someone like me, who has been riding the wave of adoption in digital age is like that, figure the rest of the population.
but for some reason, companies cant let go of that 'experience' illusion they are embroiled in.
i wonder, whether there is ANY person, who gets up from in front of a computer or television or any other ramped-up gadget and says, 'wow, this was a great xyz gadget using EXPERIENCE' - in any meaning of the term.
So that people can be charged for use of public restrooms depending on the excrement mass they release.
what the hell. lets just put it in streetspeak :
for charging people per ounce of shit..............
there is no end to 'charging' in capitalism. everything is privatized so nothing will remain public, and then everything is charged so that some who control the means can make even more money.
its to the imbalance of 85% of population getting 15% of everything to 5% top of population getting 72% of everything in u.s. now.
reduction of 'public' and increase of 'private' will just tip it more and more towards the......... well not medieval serfdom, for sure. medieval serfs got 33% of all produce from the land by law. whereas lord got 33%. church the rest 33%. no medieval lord could dream of getting 72% like top 5% americans did, and no medieval serf would accept less than 33%. but americans, do.
china is the top creditor to u.s. still, despite dumping a lot of it, going to 1.13 trillion or so from 1.5+ trillion, after chinese finance minister or trade representative said 'u.s. dollar was worthless now'.
I love Fallout 3 and have spent a lot of time modding it, but I don't see how you can possibly describe it as an 'expansion of the Fallout 2 concept'. Both gameplay and story-wise, 3 is a pretty dramatic departure from 2. If anything, New Vegas is the successor to Fallout 2, reintroducing mechanics like reputation as well as continuing the story of factions from the earlier titles (NCR, BoS, Followers, etc.).
reputation was there in fallout 3 too. however, it seems what you are saying is in terms of story-wise. its not necessarily a departure from the game because it takes place elsewhere. the gameplay of fallout 3 was preserved, and expanded upon.
It seems like everyone is wanting to ride a new 'tech wave' again like it was in the 90s, since what we have has become saturated and stale. But arent they exaggerating it, all of them going nutso and mobile in full force ? (does not only include linux - everyone)
Wont it probably be like pcs ? once they pass a certain hardware strength and software feature set, people will just skip on going on the 'next big thing'. like how endless legions of people has not upgraded their xp, or, how people just skip on upgrading their hardware since what they have is enough.
In other words, I don't want some motherfucking marketing firm tracking me to sell me their shit - and it's always shit - and sell my information to the Government because they want to track "terrorists" or whatever to justify they're existence.
you are talking as if the two are two different parties. facebook's ancestor started as a university project to find saddam hussein through his social connections, and it still has connections to 'intelligence' services.
right to be forgotten exists in offline-world, and it did not cause any free speech issues. something which is personal information, is not something that is related to free speech. your ideas expressed, public posts made, public statements, discussions may be considered free speech. but, photographs of your son and daughter, can not.
what im i saying. taking this shit seriously : the real issue is google, facebook and similar going deprived of 2% of their annual income. that's the whole point of this anxiety.
well. we, the people dont give two shits about google or facebook's 2% annual income. they can lose it, and still sit pretty.
and, this does not have any kind of effect on the 90-100% of the rest of the internet, where content is created by small people or businesses - they are not making money selling people's personal information to megacorporations anyway. (ads are not relevant - small sites cant run all encompassing tracking networks like facebook )
and imagine that every game was like fallout 3, pirates !, simcity and so on.
you would have a game to pick depending on the mood you have at that time and day. sure, you couldnt take too much of simcity. but, you could switch to pirates !. or fallout 3. (even if it has narratives, its pretty much sandbox). or the other game 1, or 2, or 3 and so on.
instead, you are switching narratives today. like, books. you are always reading books, and you dont have the option of not reading a book.
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it has become so in early antiquity, and it has not change since. it just transformed and translated to other mediums. it was raw arm power first. then it became religious power. then it become aristocratic power. then it became wealth.
if you track a 'serial number' of a device enough, you can easily map the tracked to particular persons after you amass a certain size of data. this is what websites are doing.
I'm not so sure about UDID giving away no more privacy than IP.
IP doesn't identify a single device, thanks to NATs and dynamic pools and conversely same device isn't bound to single IP, it's many to many relation. To track someone specific you need more than his IP, like a cookie, for example. And many indeed disable browser cookies for this very reason, just as you propose.
UDID, on the other hand, is a strict one to one relation, it's unchangeable, linked to single device and can't be disabled. UDID is much better suitable for tracking and collating info across different sources. Add a little bit more, and you're tracking a user even after a new phone purchase.
how badly the european style privacy and 'forget me' laws were necessary.
The problem with the idea that it's all capitalism's fault is that any system can be perverted
'any system being susceptible to perversion' is not an excuse to employ a system that encourages accumulating and using power. that's what capitalism does.
With a proper system of taxation and a matching rate of inflation you solve the problem of people hoarding cash without giving anything back to the system that enabled them to do so in the first place.
you are still ignoring inconvenient truth : those who have the hoards of cash, will not stand by while you try to undo their power (wealth). they already shaped system into what they desire, and to undo it, you will need to stage a semi-revolution. and when you actually 'balance' the capitalism by introducing sufficient amount of its antithesis (socialism) in the system so that abuse will become less, you will have just reset the clock. those who are wealthier will again start turning the system around to their advantage through the power (wealth) you have not neutralized.
the catch here is not 'not giving something back to system' or else - the catch here is, some minority being able to hold disproportionate amount of power. if they have it, they will use it.
yeees. the competitors, who would be following the same practice because it makes more money for them too. and also 'industry practice'. ................
as long as stupid people like you exist, who think that there is 'some great plains out there to which you can just move on' ............
well, you just deserve being exploited. this is all that what you say portrays.
it was as grim as he let it on. unfortunately. its a grotesque reading in history.
all peasant insurrections were harshly suppressed until end of 14th century.
I reject the notion that capitalism is inherently bad. It can be a great convenience
and that is the reason why we suffer these abuses. your refusal can not change the mechanics of a social dynamic. if you allow individuals and groups to accumulate power in any fashion - be it wealth, political, or military, they will eventually use that power to subdue others. this, has never been different in the history of this planet. sure, it may be convenient - feudalism was also very convenient for peasants - lords had to go to wars, whereas peasants were safe back in the villages. but, it was still subservience. and not surprisingly, the lords had eventually turned the thing around in 1-2 centuries and changed even that.
those businesses will start behaving exactly like these, when one of companies like these come and start competing with them with these methods. they have no choice. otherwise they would go under.
allowing bad behavior, forces others to the same behavior.
Gotta get with the times. There's no such thing as corporate responsibility. How the money is made, where it comes from, and what the consequences of making it are, are all problems left for everyone else to deal with. There's only quarterly earnings, year over year growth, and valuation. Get in, make a boatload, and pray to your local diety you get out before the whole system comes crashing down on the heads of all the less fortunate ones who couldn't get out in time.
congrats. you have grasped the precise essence of capitalism.
The really ironic thing is, supposedly laws are to supposed to remove 'might makes right' from disputes in a civilized society, and move disagreements to a courtroom where they can be decided in a rational way without bloodshed.
you didnt 'come' to that point. you never left that point. the actual might which made the medieval ages, was never dropped - property ownership and wealth. only, the method changed. back then the wealthier used more goons to overwhelm the poorer, now they use lawyers. the 'might makes right' tribal justice was much more just than the actual 'might makes right' justice of feudal power. at least, you could somehow win against a single person with the tribal law. with medieval might makes right, there is always another goon serving the lord who could smack you after you took one down.
Interestingly enough, that is how radical and terrorist groups are created: the disenfranchisement of a group from society because it feels it has no voice
except that the 'group' currently disenfranchised from society is around 95%. the only thing preventing what you speak of, is that most of them think that they have a place in the system, due to conditioning and brainwashing by media.
think like this :
the concept of property ownership, is already the very definition of feudal ownership - there is a certain point where ownership passes across the 'personal' small belongings to the point of being a domain. owning over a certain amount of land, owning over a certain amount of controlling share in some corporation that controls an important field of life (gsm, internet, tv) makes the holders practical feudal lords. they become de facto owners of a field of life/amenity/resource that the majority of public needs, and which can be used to herd the public accordingly.
actually, in the case of megacorporations, this passes the level of feudal small domain holder level and becomes a full fledged dukedom - commanding hundreds of thousands of people and immense variety and amount of resources across oceans.
and all of these are inherited. it is alright in opening stages of a capitalist economy, when there can be still competition because the wealth ownership has not consolidated yet, but in later stages, it becomes what we have now - a small minority holding vast swaths of activity in life collectively. and this gets inherited perpetually. at this point you de facto have an oligarchy, or a proto-aristocracy.
in the case of fascism, political control is commanded by someone supported by these. that person just becomes the emperor of the patricians in rome in a sense. and one stage later you transition to an aristocracy, with dukes, lords already established long ago, now just entitled and named.
table uses the term 'user experience' ....
thats the point you burn with a fiery desire to get on top of the table, pull out your johnson and piss around on the faces of all participants. ..............
you sit in front of a tv, you click the remote, you watch the channel. that's what tv is. there is no more 'experience' in it. neither does a person coming home from work and dinner want an 'experience' to come out of their tv. they just want to click and watch.
same goes for oses. 'user experience'. what ? i just want to click on my program, and use it. i dont want any 'experience' happening in between.
hell, even internet. i have been on internet since it got out of the hen (1993-94), i have been on the first wave on everything ranging from multiplayer games to irc to webmaster culture to mmos, i have been an overclocker, and let me tell you :
when im on internet, i use at most 10 websites, play the same game, use the same software to do development, use the same instant messengers....... you get the picture.
im not looking for any 'experience'.
if someone like me, who has been riding the wave of adoption in digital age is like that, figure the rest of the population.
but for some reason, companies cant let go of that 'experience' illusion they are embroiled in.
i wonder, whether there is ANY person, who gets up from in front of a computer or television or any other ramped-up gadget and says, 'wow, this was a great xyz gadget using EXPERIENCE' - in any meaning of the term.
the ultimate end of capitalism is aristocracy. through the process, you may pass through a period of fascism.
So that people can be charged for use of public restrooms depending on the excrement mass they release.
what the hell. lets just put it in streetspeak :
for charging people per ounce of shit. .............
there is no end to 'charging' in capitalism. everything is privatized so nothing will remain public, and then everything is charged so that some who control the means can make even more money.
its to the imbalance of 85% of population getting 15% of everything to 5% top of population getting 72% of everything in u.s. now.
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
reduction of 'public' and increase of 'private' will just tip it more and more towards the ......... well not medieval serfdom, for sure. medieval serfs got 33% of all produce from the land by law. whereas lord got 33%. church the rest 33%. no medieval lord could dream of getting 72% like top 5% americans did, and no medieval serf would accept less than 33%. but americans, do.
of course, if you are not talking metaphorically.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ix=sea&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&site=webhp&source=hp&q=china%20is%20u.s.%20top%20creditor&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&fp=4ed61219c935a532&ix=sea&ion=1&ix=sea&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=9cdc2d4e3ad4d3db&biw=1177&bih=888&ix=sea&ion=1
china is the top creditor to u.s. still, despite dumping a lot of it, going to 1.13 trillion or so from 1.5+ trillion, after chinese finance minister or trade representative said 'u.s. dollar was worthless now'.
was anything of value was lost during this downtime ? I dont think such secret services have been serving their people's needs for a long time now.
Wait, what?
I love Fallout 3 and have spent a lot of time modding it, but I don't see how you can possibly describe it as an 'expansion of the Fallout 2 concept'. Both gameplay and story-wise, 3 is a pretty dramatic departure from 2. If anything, New Vegas is the successor to Fallout 2, reintroducing mechanics like reputation as well as continuing the story of factions from the earlier titles (NCR, BoS, Followers, etc.).
reputation was there in fallout 3 too. however, it seems what you are saying is in terms of story-wise. its not necessarily a departure from the game because it takes place elsewhere. the gameplay of fallout 3 was preserved, and expanded upon.
It seems like everyone is wanting to ride a new 'tech wave' again like it was in the 90s, since what we have has become saturated and stale. But arent they exaggerating it, all of them going nutso and mobile in full force ? (does not only include linux - everyone)
Wont it probably be like pcs ? once they pass a certain hardware strength and software feature set, people will just skip on going on the 'next big thing'. like how endless legions of people has not upgraded their xp, or, how people just skip on upgrading their hardware since what they have is enough.
For some reason, people have an apathy to this kind of music when they are young. when older, its different.
you cannot do that to people, but you can do that to corporations. on internet, corporations are taking that for granted.
In other words, I don't want some motherfucking marketing firm tracking me to sell me their shit - and it's always shit - and sell my information to the Government because they want to track "terrorists" or whatever to justify they're existence.
you are talking as if the two are two different parties. facebook's ancestor started as a university project to find saddam hussein through his social connections, and it still has connections to 'intelligence' services.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ix=sea&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&site=webhp&source=hp&q=facebook%20backed%20by%20cia&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&fp=2ea555e16508ec1f&ix=sea&ion=1&ix=sea&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=1d3c910caa16445a&biw=1177&bih=934&ix=sea&ion=1
right to be forgotten exists in offline-world, and it did not cause any free speech issues. something which is personal information, is not something that is related to free speech. your ideas expressed, public posts made, public statements, discussions may be considered free speech. but, photographs of your son and daughter, can not.
what im i saying. taking this shit seriously : the real issue is google, facebook and similar going deprived of 2% of their annual income. that's the whole point of this anxiety.
well. we, the people dont give two shits about google or facebook's 2% annual income. they can lose it, and still sit pretty.
and, this does not have any kind of effect on the 90-100% of the rest of the internet, where content is created by small people or businesses - they are not making money selling people's personal information to megacorporations anyway. (ads are not relevant - small sites cant run all encompassing tracking networks like facebook )
and imagine that every game was like fallout 3, pirates !, simcity and so on.
you would have a game to pick depending on the mood you have at that time and day. sure, you couldnt take too much of simcity. but, you could switch to pirates !. or fallout 3. (even if it has narratives, its pretty much sandbox). or the other game 1, or 2, or 3 and so on.
instead, you are switching narratives today. like, books. you are always reading books, and you dont have the option of not reading a book.