there was nothing 'mad' until the fucking free leader of the free world britain landed with 18 free nations to suppress the people, revolting out of hunger, to reinstate the tzar and the nobles. and even after that, there wasnt anything mad until they have started to instigate civil war through gold and arms. yes, it took approximately 8 years for the revolution to go psychopath. because at that point, there was no other way to win the struggle - and, the constant interventions by the so called 'free' countries, had had inevitably caused the hardliner factions to gain support.
knowledge of history, prevents someone from making stupid arguments. apparently, that is something you dont have. but, is too easy to gain it these days. why dont you take your chance, and next time not appear as if someone out of an idiotic tea party convention ?
the difference being, actually, is that you are wrong.
there is no relevance in between 'communism' and 'oppression'. you set it up at the first sentence of your post, showing your utter ignorance on the concept.
and you even went further tea party on us, by talking about a 'democratic' government in capitalist society - utterly oblivious of the fact that the governance of ussr was much more democratical than u.s. in all its oppression - endless assemblies dotted local and regional governments all the way up to the highest assembly, and everything happened through elected representatives deciding what to do.
communism is an ECONOMIC system. it is NOT a POLITICAL system. anyone who compares communism with 'democracy', shows their ignorance and stupidity. because these two are not relevant
you can have a democratic governance in a capitalist society, and also have a fascist governance in a CAPITALIST society. (hello nazi germany even at the deepest hellpit of war). and vice versa, you can have a dictatorship in a communist society, as well as a democratic organization in that same society.
the main stupidity here is, naively believing that 'communism' was an 'antidemocratic' system, being oblivious to the fact that ussr democratic system having had totally hijacked by a certain small clique, which made sure to always get their own candidates elected.
oooppsss - but isnt that the situation in u.s. currently as of now ? it is. the only difference in being how it is done - the groups in u.s. do it through power of money (thank you capitalism) AND then repressing/negating any kind of opposition, and the ones in ussr were doing it by first negating/repressing the opposition and then getting their men elected. in ussr you couldnt talk, in u.s. you can talk, but noone can hear you unless you own a newspaper or a media interest allows you to appear in their channel, if you fit in with their own agenda.
that being said, in between the two countries, there werent people eating from garbage dumps out on the streets, and there was noone unemployed. and the luxuries the party's top people spent for themselves, could not be even compared to a mid-level executives luxuries.
having 'enormous' number of patents, does NOT mean that you can just go about threatening people saying you have patents and NOT showing the patents. they showed the patents to barnes and noble. and what happened ? b&n laughed. now they are taking microsoft to court over monopoly practice.
Microsoft alleges that their patents are violated. they do NOT show, or say, or even let you peek at what patents were violated. they may basically be bluffing, and there is no way to know that. you cant sue them for their own patents either. they dont sue anyone, ending up having to show their patents either. they are just THREATENING to sue, and extorting money over their alleged patents. we do not even know whether they have patents or not.
That is basically what it came down to. Microsoft is basically making everyone pay to them regardless of what they do - even if you use linux, you have to pay them. and they are doing these on THREATS of litigation and do not even feel the need to actually show their patents. they are not suing anyone either - they are threatening to.
this is extortion. period. there is no other explanation or definition for it.
so, basically we are going to end up having paid to microsoft, EVEN if i do NOT use microsoft products, because microsoft was successful in threatening the producers to pay them out of fear.
i dont approve that. i choose a product, when i choose a product. if i was going to choose a microsoft product, i would do so. when i have not chosen a microsoft product, that means i have NOT chosen to PAY them.
if they take my money through ANY means out of my own choices, then it means they are robbing me. period.
i dont see any other option but to pirate, to get my money back, which was taken away from me through these illegal means.
the problem is, most of microsoft's products are crap, and i evade them as much as possible. so, what am i going to do now, since i am being cashed by microsoft even when i do NOT use their product ? pirate the other software which was supposed to be NOT microsoft ? this is a pinch.
someone who is not aware that microsoft is NOT disclosing any of the 'infringements' or patents and extorting money on THREATS alone, should not talk in this discussion.
microsoft's act is no different from someone coming to your restaurant and demanding money by saying that you damaged his business by using his ideas.
he is. the other side of the world, is closed to russians due to being anglo-american aligned. that's why nato has echelon stations in new zealand, whereas russia does not have a listening station in south africa.
Their own propaganda tells them constantly that they are unique, superior to the others, and surrounded by vile enemies that miss no chance to do harm to russia
that was exactly the case. the moment revolution happened in russia, the leader of the FREE world, great britain, landed with 18 other 'free' countries to suppress the 'rebellion' of the people and reinstate tzar and aristocracy in russia.
when they failed, they withdrew their military forces, and this time started to fund the white russians (Royalists) with arms and gold. to kill their own countrymen. when they were beaten too, they started to set up alliances and surround the country, leading to the cold war. the only intermediate pause was in between 2 world wars, and that was thanks to nazis.
We've been discussing the recent anti-government protests in Moscow, and he says that the government-controlled media (which includes all of TV and radio, and many of the newspapers) has gone into overdrive accusing the U.S. for being behind almost everything that's currently going wrong in Russia.
hasnt it recently leaked that u.s. secret services were behind orchestrating the 'arab spring' that happened around middle east - which hit all of the countries that had u.s. unfriendly governments, but conveniently skipped u.s. backers like jordan, saudi arabia (the hellhole), bahrain and so on ? the minor protest that ensued at the end of all arab spring in bahrain was suppressed violently by saudi arabian forces which bahrain govt. requested. but nothing happened. in contrast, entire arab spring started from a single street salesman burning himself in tunusia ?
i dont think it necessitates any explanation now. we have discussed innumerable articles with news on how the u.s. secret services were using social media, internet as a weapon against unfriendly countries in slashdot.
you can rest assured that there is some u.s. friendly clique that is funded by u.s. in russia, just like how there was the muslim brotherhood, an u.s. backed islamist organization, behind ALL the 'revolutions' in all the arab countries, without exception ; they were working for it for 10 years in libya. they were the main force behind egypt's. and in both cases they immediately called for sharia law and also moved to appease certain u.s. interests with awards of contracts.
i bought it mainly for the 3D. and in that, it works great. and has passive glasses too - like in the cinema. the thing is, 3d does not come up as thrilling in the house. even if you use it with games. its really 3d, alright. but...... so what..............
the problem with these are, first of all you'll be hard pressed to maintain the same exact location on high ocean. you cant just drop anchor in a 8,000 m deep part of the ocean. so, the ship that carries the equipment to do the telemetry would need to be checking out its own location continually itself. and then it would need to compare this with the location received from the craft and analyze it. or send both to the central system (or whatever) they have to analyze it.
leaving that aside, any kind of weather conditions at the point the ship is would affect what you get. ranging from storms to overcast skies. these also affect land based systems, but land based systems do not need to seek evacuation from a storm - they just shut in most of the time. also, other land based locations would make up for reduced efficiency of the one afflicted - to do that in sea you need to keep many ships out, and it would be expensive. in addition, the frequency and mobility of storms for land based installations would be lower since a lot of land features stop or prevent storms (high mountains, different geographical areas) whereas a sea is an open environment in which storm can go anywhere depending on current and atmosphere.
But he said 'the frequent failure of our space launches, which occur at a time when they are flying over the part of Earth not visible from Russia, where we do not see the spacecraft and do not receive telemetric information, are not clear to us,' an apparent reference to the Americas.
I have one of them 'smart tvs' next room, one 32 inch lg 3d tv. as smart as it goes - can connect to internet, watch youtube vids directly, connect to this service and that, and let me tell you :
it is a bitch to use it with the remote. the moment you need to type something, you're in deep shit. guess what it needs ? right - a keyboard.
and the moment it gets a keyboard it would become a rather oversized monitored dumb terminal pc that i cannot tinker with.... so then why shouldnt i buy/build a small media box and connect my tv to it instead ?
Turn of the century was over 100 years ago. Everyone who might remember remember is dead. Otherwise, we don't have a "Civil wars of tiny countries" educational requirement.
someone who would want to speak actively in a discussion involving political histories of other nations, is required to know about it. or shut up.
ireland is by no means tiny, and ira by no means a joke, even today.
I just don't understand why there is no world wide movement for requesting setting back copyright terms to 20 years?
so you dont understand why there is no worldwide movement for correcting 'copyright issue' ?
maybe because people dont give a shit because they are not only poor, and struggling to survive, but also undereducated and culturally deficient ? (85% of america only does with 15% of national wealth/income - 7% gulps 72% of it).
people are fighting for survival. some are working on two jobs. some start working in high school to support their family. and no - you cannot expect everyone to overcome 'great odds' and dedicate their entire lives to not only pulling their family and themselves out of the 15% wealth/income share hell to a measly middle class existence AND educate themselves and become enlightened members of the society in the meantime. 0.1 - 0.3% of society who have been able to do that does not make a usable rule for the rest.
so therefore, people have more pressing matters than copyright. you can bet that none of them know what copyright exactly is, even if they know the word 'copyright'.
solution ? you need to save people from depths of poverty induced by a dog eat dog system. only then they will become aware of, and care for things like 'copyright'.
but instead, a third of you are ridiculing movements/reactions like ows, a third of you opposing it, a third of you are lukewarm about it.
noone is going to descend from the skies and fix your problems. you need to start somewhere. and you need to support those who started somewhere, even if the start is makeshift.
ira's goal was independent ireland. and they succeeded at it. the united ireland was an after effect, a consequence of that independence, which only then became a goal.
After all, what you call 'life' is just a definition of complex chemical constructs that can propel themselves and add to their structure in a consistent fashion. That is the basic definition of life. They are basically systems.
And these constructs totally depend on the greater system they are part of. All the conditions, present compounds and elements in a given environment, would cause any such self developing and propelling systems to evolve shaped according to that environment. it does not necessarily be carbon based, it does not necessarily be oxygen using. Any element that can take their place in a DIFFERENT system, can work. The catch is, the entire system needs to be different, for the life to be comprised of different compounds and activities. granted, the possibility of similar systems using one or more elements as they are in each other's systems can exist though.
so, looking for earth like life in other planets is just narrow minded and shortfalling. it is as narrow minded as seti - thinking that technology in any evolved planet would evolve along the lines this one evolved.
everything starts with realization of the situation and letting go of denial.
its a disturbing situation, because when done, it will create a disturbance in one's psyche, and will upset the accustomed normalization that existed. people go into denial because of that. if they dont, the urge to act continually rises until person takes some form of action.
you are not in tibet yet. but the RATE things are going, are in that direction.
so far, people like you have been sitting pretty saying stuff like 'this is not china' and so on, and believing that such things may not happen in america.
and, meanwhile, while all of you were just sitting like that, the RATE things were going has not changed. increasingly, more repressive laws and bills have been put out. habeas corpus was basically gone out of the window back around 2001. but it had a condition of 'enemy combatant'. you people rationalized it, just kept sitting on your butt. and now, after 9 years, habeas corpus is gone out of the window for ALL american citizens. without any kind of reprieve.
there have been many attempts to censor internet and new media before too. the rate things were going in that direction. you just sit on your butt while these attempts were made. believing that these would not happen there. first attack on net neutrality circa 2005 was attempted, dmca passed, acta went into preparation aaand fast forward to today - there is sopa.
see the point ?
as long as there isnt any change at the RATE things are going and the DIRECTION they are going, it is only a matter of time before things just happen.
in short, if you just sit tight on your butt saying 'doh at least i am not in china', you will someday discover that, you ARE in china.
.......
i cant believe that kind of stupidity which afflicts the modern society : there are a group of people who are saying that they WANT to limit your rights for their own profit, they are DOING things to limit your rights for their own profit, they continually succeed in incrementally removing your rights, so it is just a matter of time until your most basic rights are gone. it is on the horizon. these people are openly saying that they want to remove them, and they are not only telling that, but they are doing what they are saying.
it is the stupidity of looking at now, and seeing things as they are, and thinking that they will keep stay same forever, despite there are those who are incrementally changing it.
which tells us that, b&n saw that their patents were bullshit, and then ?
there was nothing 'mad' until the fucking free leader of the free world britain landed with 18 free nations to suppress the people, revolting out of hunger, to reinstate the tzar and the nobles. and even after that, there wasnt anything mad until they have started to instigate civil war through gold and arms. yes, it took approximately 8 years for the revolution to go psychopath. because at that point, there was no other way to win the struggle - and, the constant interventions by the so called 'free' countries, had had inevitably caused the hardliner factions to gain support.
knowledge of history, prevents someone from making stupid arguments. apparently, that is something you dont have. but, is too easy to gain it these days. why dont you take your chance, and next time not appear as if someone out of an idiotic tea party convention ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War
the difference being, actually, is that you are wrong.
there is no relevance in between 'communism' and 'oppression'. you set it up at the first sentence of your post, showing your utter ignorance on the concept.
and you even went further tea party on us, by talking about a 'democratic' government in capitalist society - utterly oblivious of the fact that the governance of ussr was much more democratical than u.s. in all its oppression - endless assemblies dotted local and regional governments all the way up to the highest assembly, and everything happened through elected representatives deciding what to do.
communism is an ECONOMIC system. it is NOT a POLITICAL system. anyone who compares communism with 'democracy', shows their ignorance and stupidity. because these two are not relevant
you can have a democratic governance in a capitalist society, and also have a fascist governance in a CAPITALIST society. (hello nazi germany even at the deepest hellpit of war). and vice versa, you can have a dictatorship in a communist society, as well as a democratic organization in that same society.
the main stupidity here is, naively believing that 'communism' was an 'antidemocratic' system, being oblivious to the fact that ussr democratic system having had totally hijacked by a certain small clique, which made sure to always get their own candidates elected.
oooppsss - but isnt that the situation in u.s. currently as of now ? it is. the only difference in being how it is done - the groups in u.s. do it through power of money (thank you capitalism) AND then repressing/negating any kind of opposition, and the ones in ussr were doing it by first negating/repressing the opposition and then getting their men elected. in ussr you couldnt talk, in u.s. you can talk, but noone can hear you unless you own a newspaper or a media interest allows you to appear in their channel, if you fit in with their own agenda.
that being said, in between the two countries, there werent people eating from garbage dumps out on the streets, and there was noone unemployed. and the luxuries the party's top people spent for themselves, could not be even compared to a mid-level executives luxuries.
all that what you posted shows, is that microsoft is trying to extort people without showing them any patents. this was the point.
having 'enormous' number of patents, does NOT mean that you can just go about threatening people saying you have patents and NOT showing the patents. they showed the patents to barnes and noble. and what happened ? b&n laughed. now they are taking microsoft to court over monopoly practice.
Microsoft alleges that their patents are violated. they do NOT show, or say, or even let you peek at what patents were violated. they may basically be bluffing, and there is no way to know that. you cant sue them for their own patents either. they dont sue anyone, ending up having to show their patents either. they are just THREATENING to sue, and extorting money over their alleged patents. we do not even know whether they have patents or not.
That is basically what it came down to. Microsoft is basically making everyone pay to them regardless of what they do - even if you use linux, you have to pay them. and they are doing these on THREATS of litigation and do not even feel the need to actually show their patents. they are not suing anyone either - they are threatening to.
this is extortion. period. there is no other explanation or definition for it.
so, basically we are going to end up having paid to microsoft, EVEN if i do NOT use microsoft products, because microsoft was successful in threatening the producers to pay them out of fear.
i dont approve that. i choose a product, when i choose a product. if i was going to choose a microsoft product, i would do so. when i have not chosen a microsoft product, that means i have NOT chosen to PAY them.
if they take my money through ANY means out of my own choices, then it means they are robbing me. period.
i dont see any other option but to pirate, to get my money back, which was taken away from me through these illegal means.
the problem is, most of microsoft's products are crap, and i evade them as much as possible. so, what am i going to do now, since i am being cashed by microsoft even when i do NOT use their product ? pirate the other software which was supposed to be NOT microsoft ? this is a pinch.
someone who is not aware that microsoft is NOT disclosing any of the 'infringements' or patents and extorting money on THREATS alone, should not talk in this discussion.
microsoft's act is no different from someone coming to your restaurant and demanding money by saying that you damaged his business by using his ideas.
For this is extortion now, basically. They are increasing the cost that reflects on the customer by patent threats that may or may not be valid.
he is. the other side of the world, is closed to russians due to being anglo-american aligned. that's why nato has echelon stations in new zealand, whereas russia does not have a listening station in south africa.
Their own propaganda tells them constantly that they are unique, superior to the others, and surrounded by vile enemies that miss no chance to do harm to russia
that was exactly the case. the moment revolution happened in russia, the leader of the FREE world, great britain, landed with 18 other 'free' countries to suppress the 'rebellion' of the people and reinstate tzar and aristocracy in russia.
when they failed, they withdrew their military forces, and this time started to fund the white russians (Royalists) with arms and gold. to kill their own countrymen. when they were beaten too, they started to set up alliances and surround the country, leading to the cold war. the only intermediate pause was in between 2 world wars, and that was thanks to nazis.
We've been discussing the recent anti-government protests in Moscow, and he says that the government-controlled media (which includes all of TV and radio, and many of the newspapers) has gone into overdrive accusing the U.S. for being behind almost everything that's currently going wrong in Russia.
hasnt it recently leaked that u.s. secret services were behind orchestrating the 'arab spring' that happened around middle east - which hit all of the countries that had u.s. unfriendly governments, but conveniently skipped u.s. backers like jordan, saudi arabia (the hellhole), bahrain and so on ? the minor protest that ensued at the end of all arab spring in bahrain was suppressed violently by saudi arabian forces which bahrain govt. requested. but nothing happened. in contrast, entire arab spring started from a single street salesman burning himself in tunusia ?
i dont think it necessitates any explanation now. we have discussed innumerable articles with news on how the u.s. secret services were using social media, internet as a weapon against unfriendly countries in slashdot.
you can rest assured that there is some u.s. friendly clique that is funded by u.s. in russia, just like how there was the muslim brotherhood, an u.s. backed islamist organization, behind ALL the 'revolutions' in all the arab countries, without exception ; they were working for it for 10 years in libya. they were the main force behind egypt's. and in both cases they immediately called for sharia law and also moved to appease certain u.s. interests with awards of contracts.
unfortunately it is a dirty world.
i bought it mainly for the 3D. and in that, it works great. and has passive glasses too - like in the cinema. the thing is, 3d does not come up as thrilling in the house. even if you use it with games. its really 3d, alright. but ...... so what ..............
and why there are lots of high power RF coming out of alaska, a desolate place of the world, again ?
the problem with these are, first of all you'll be hard pressed to maintain the same exact location on high ocean. you cant just drop anchor in a 8,000 m deep part of the ocean. so, the ship that carries the equipment to do the telemetry would need to be checking out its own location continually itself. and then it would need to compare this with the location received from the craft and analyze it. or send both to the central system (or whatever) they have to analyze it.
leaving that aside, any kind of weather conditions at the point the ship is would affect what you get. ranging from storms to overcast skies. these also affect land based systems, but land based systems do not need to seek evacuation from a storm - they just shut in most of the time. also, other land based locations would make up for reduced efficiency of the one afflicted - to do that in sea you need to keep many ships out, and it would be expensive. in addition, the frequency and mobility of storms for land based installations would be lower since a lot of land features stop or prevent storms (high mountains, different geographical areas) whereas a sea is an open environment in which storm can go anywhere depending on current and atmosphere.
But he said 'the frequent failure of our space launches, which occur at a time when they are flying over the part of Earth not visible from Russia, where we do not see the spacecraft and do not receive telemetric information, are not clear to us,' an apparent reference to the Americas.
I have one of them 'smart tvs' next room, one 32 inch lg 3d tv. as smart as it goes - can connect to internet, watch youtube vids directly, connect to this service and that, and let me tell you :
.... so then why shouldnt i buy/build a small media box and connect my tv to it instead ?
it is a bitch to use it with the remote. the moment you need to type something, you're in deep shit. guess what it needs ? right - a keyboard.
and the moment it gets a keyboard it would become a rather oversized monitored dumb terminal pc that i cannot tinker with
all these said, its rather convenient.
Turn of the century was over 100 years ago. Everyone who might remember remember is dead. Otherwise, we don't have a "Civil wars of tiny countries" educational requirement.
someone who would want to speak actively in a discussion involving political histories of other nations, is required to know about it. or shut up.
ireland is by no means tiny, and ira by no means a joke, even today.
I just don't understand why there is no world wide movement for requesting setting back copyright terms to 20 years?
so you dont understand why there is no worldwide movement for correcting 'copyright issue' ?
maybe because people dont give a shit because they are not only poor, and struggling to survive, but also undereducated and culturally deficient ? (85% of america only does with 15% of national wealth/income - 7% gulps 72% of it).
people are fighting for survival. some are working on two jobs. some start working in high school to support their family. and no - you cannot expect everyone to overcome 'great odds' and dedicate their entire lives to not only pulling their family and themselves out of the 15% wealth/income share hell to a measly middle class existence AND educate themselves and become enlightened members of the society in the meantime. 0.1 - 0.3% of society who have been able to do that does not make a usable rule for the rest.
so therefore, people have more pressing matters than copyright. you can bet that none of them know what copyright exactly is, even if they know the word 'copyright'.
solution ? you need to save people from depths of poverty induced by a dog eat dog system. only then they will become aware of, and care for things like 'copyright'.
but instead, a third of you are ridiculing movements/reactions like ows, a third of you opposing it, a third of you are lukewarm about it.
noone is going to descend from the skies and fix your problems. you need to start somewhere. and you need to support those who started somewhere, even if the start is makeshift.
who will cut copyright to 50 years ?
only a shit ignorant american would not know about how ireland gained its independence in the first place at the turn of the century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army
ira's goal was independent ireland. and they succeeded at it. the united ireland was an after effect, a consequence of that independence, which only then became a goal.
i was 10 years old then.
After all, what you call 'life' is just a definition of complex chemical constructs that can propel themselves and add to their structure in a consistent fashion. That is the basic definition of life. They are basically systems.
And these constructs totally depend on the greater system they are part of. All the conditions, present compounds and elements in a given environment, would cause any such self developing and propelling systems to evolve shaped according to that environment. it does not necessarily be carbon based, it does not necessarily be oxygen using. Any element that can take their place in a DIFFERENT system, can work. The catch is, the entire system needs to be different, for the life to be comprised of different compounds and activities. granted, the possibility of similar systems using one or more elements as they are in each other's systems can exist though.
so, looking for earth like life in other planets is just narrow minded and shortfalling. it is as narrow minded as seti - thinking that technology in any evolved planet would evolve along the lines this one evolved.
everything starts with realization of the situation and letting go of denial.
its a disturbing situation, because when done, it will create a disturbance in one's psyche, and will upset the accustomed normalization that existed. people go into denial because of that. if they dont, the urge to act continually rises until person takes some form of action.
Lets see :
.......
you are not in tibet yet. but the RATE things are going, are in that direction.
so far, people like you have been sitting pretty saying stuff like 'this is not china' and so on, and believing that such things may not happen in america.
and, meanwhile, while all of you were just sitting like that, the RATE things were going has not changed. increasingly, more repressive laws and bills have been put out. habeas corpus was basically gone out of the window back around 2001. but it had a condition of 'enemy combatant'. you people rationalized it, just kept sitting on your butt. and now, after 9 years, habeas corpus is gone out of the window for ALL american citizens. without any kind of reprieve.
there have been many attempts to censor internet and new media before too. the rate things were going in that direction. you just sit on your butt while these attempts were made. believing that these would not happen there. first attack on net neutrality circa 2005 was attempted, dmca passed, acta went into preparation aaand fast forward to today - there is sopa.
see the point ?
as long as there isnt any change at the RATE things are going and the DIRECTION they are going, it is only a matter of time before things just happen.
in short, if you just sit tight on your butt saying 'doh at least i am not in china', you will someday discover that, you ARE in china.
i cant believe that kind of stupidity which afflicts the modern society : there are a group of people who are saying that they WANT to limit your rights for their own profit, they are DOING things to limit your rights for their own profit, they continually succeed in incrementally removing your rights, so it is just a matter of time until your most basic rights are gone. it is on the horizon. these people are openly saying that they want to remove them, and they are not only telling that, but they are doing what they are saying.
it is the stupidity of looking at now, and seeing things as they are, and thinking that they will keep stay same forever, despite there are those who are incrementally changing it.