'removal of money from politics'. its just naive. as long as money exists and some few have mountains of it and masses dont, money will have power. they may not give money directly to campaigns for example. but instead, the retired senators can immediately find a very juicy job at the corporation that s/he passed laws for, after his/her term ends - which was also happening by the way.
you cant remove money from politics. even in middle ages and renaissance, those with the money made the rules despite they were not aristocrats and there was no legal place for them in politics. fuggers basically reigned over charles v, the 'greatest' holy roman emperor. they kept reigning over the empire after his death, because they were the ones who were lending money to the imperial throne and spanish crown. legally they had no right to.
but see, even in systems that there should be no logical point of entry to political system, those with the money find other peripheral means to do so.
Persuaded to how this system will not work ? The one with the gold makes the rule, and the rule of the economy makes few amass the gold.
they are not even feeling the need to hide and put on a facade anymore - like they did a few decades ago. they are outright just doing whatever their paymasters paid them for directly. even the farce of 'democracy' has been dropped.
all the grandstanding bold wordage in your post, pales in the face of the fact that your senator and congressman doesnt give two shits about what you think.
they wont change anything. even if 99,999% of the society wants it. and there is no way to elect those who will change it. as evidenced by how the very basic first rule of the modern society, habeas corpus - that was there since magna carta - has gone to cinders with the recent legislation those people have produced. let me stress this again :
they dont give shit about what you think and they wont change that law of the land. and you cant elect or be elected without being filthy rich. only 1-3% of society is filthy rich. system works for them regardless of what you desire or wish
Endless descriptions. You will find that this did not only plague Tolkien's work, but also a good many of literature pieces back in those decades and earlier. If you go back to victorian times, youll find even more descriptions.
one has to be an idiot not to be able to understand that 'being investigated twice lightly in THIRTY freaking years', counts as 'not investigated' in this context.
we see how well it is working for israel. if not for the inordinate amounts of american taxpayers' money they have been gulping since their founding, they would have been overrun by 10-12 nations decades ago.
im going to slap the same reply i made to someone who had reading comprehension problems like you.
i dont know whether you are incapable of reading comprehension. in case you havent noticed, i have recounted the incidents. 'repeatedly investigated' -> does not mean shit. what happened with the investigations ? how many times were they raided ? how many fines they got ?
i dont know whether you are incapable of reading comprehension. in case you havent noticed, i have recounted the incidents. 'repeatedly investigated' -> does not mean shit. what happened with the investigations ? how many times were they raided ? how many fines they got ?
There has never been such cases about them. they didnt have to be raided, they didnt have to delete files to escape investigation........ they just dont get investigated. microsoft got bothered approx. 2 times in this entire 30 year period in its history. nothing more. freaking 30 years, total domination of personal computer compatibles, and just 2 times. one is the ie thing, and the other is eu's browser ballot box.
and dont get me started on apple.
maybe google also should start buying representatives and bureaucrats........
so the minority groups that are wanting to control the society for their own profit, want to remove activities of a certain group. and your solution for that is, removing that group ?
boy. i dont know what to say - lucky us, because people like you did not constitute the majority in enlightened segments of society in history so that we were able to progress............ or, stupid you, because you think that removing piratebay would make those minority groups stop trying to control you.
and now, not any country in eu or eu commissions (that are MUCH more stringent than any kind of regulatory body in usa or any place else) have not found any problems with boeings, but, very Inconspicuously, australians did. the fact that boeing's largest outfit outside u.s. is residing in australia, is just a coincidence, i assure you.........
it is helpful to society to have professors in colleges who aren't just there to provide "here's the video for the lecture, here's the choose-a-guess test, here's your certificate" classes but instead provide actual interactive discussions, answer questions relevant to the topic at hand from a learned perspective, continue to do research in the subjects they are teaching, and continually update the curriculum thereby.
youre talking as if there does not happen such discussions online. i guess you have never been to a civil, science oriented community forum ? and you are talking as if the only online education methods are khan and mitx. the fact that such discussion forums, communities, mailing lists have existed since arpanet escapes your horizon.
are you sure that you are qualified to participate in discussions pertaining to how science education should be, with your narrow horizon ?
Secondly, last I recall, citizens in other countries don't fear being blown up, shot, kidnapped, and tortured by Israelis
tell that to the bahraini who was murdered in a bahrain hotel room by 5 mossad agents. who didnt even need to avert hotel security cameras - probably to 'make an example' - and used 5 stolen passwords of real european citizens to effect the murder. it was even on cnn, and talked for days. and yet, you dont know even this, and say that 'citizens in other countries dont fear being blown up'............. wow. stupid. utterly stupid.
you dont know this, and yet you are uttering blanket statements like the above. so basically, you dont know jack shit, and yet you have composed a long tirade about things you dont know ? from the liberty sinking to the samson option, the list of things you do NOT know is SO large that it would take a half a day to compose an article to educate yourself with references and links. i will refrain.
so, next time, shut up. as an alternative, you can educate yourself. then you would be respectable and noteworthy.
those 'congressmen' do not give zit about what you think. so you cant 'convince' them either. they have been elected there by the monetary backing of private interest groups who are much richer than rest 95% of the population. only they have their ear.
you have 2 choices at this juncture :
- be richer than 5% or so of the population, that controls 72% of the wealth. (in contrast you have only 15% - so its impossible - there would be enough who made it that much up till this point if it would work)
- get rid of the economic system that allows tiny minority of population to command 70-80% of economic wealth.
- get rid of the current existing political system, in which only those who are extremely rich or have the backing of extremely rich can get elected.
What can possibly go wrong with tinkering with the most abundant insect species on the planet. A species which was recently discovered to be acting as if it was a huge, planet-wide global hive - despite they were continents apart, by the way. (story was on slashdot)
your free speech right is harmless. for it to have any consequence, you have to be rich enough to publish. if you are not, you basically dont exist. only few percent is rich enough to publish.
so you have the right, but you dont have the means to exercise that right.
a right that practically cant be exercised does NOT exist. that is no different from medieval serfs having the right to petition the king against lord's wrongdoings in legalese, but never having the possibility to practice.
I'd like to write a book, so I'm going to require that someone provide me with a free computer, free paper, free writing utensils, free access to commercial printing and binding machines, etc..
yes. and that's how it should be. quite far fetched? no. not more far fetched than arguing that practical impossibility of exercising a right in a way it would matter still qualifies as 'having that right.
You can say whatever you want but building an audience and venue requires consent of other people and usually money. If your words don't cause anyone to want to listen, or pay for it, etc. then that's not a problem with your rights
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. how convenient isnt it. 'you have the right to speech, but exercising it in a way it will matter requires money, and 85% of population does not have it'.
problem sorted. illusion of freedom exists, idiots get fooled, and the rest 15% who do have money to exercise it gets everything their way through that power.
figures why there is an abomination called 'tea party' in usa.
first amendment covers this. and, you have the rights to your free speech. nice. where ?
in your house, among your friends, in your neighborhood, or in a public park which you can put a stool and step on it to give a speech.... oh wait - that last bit turned out not to be a right.
so, you have a right, but the means to exercise it are not your rights. so basically, whomever has the most money can publish newspapers, run tvs or appear in tvs, and all the rest 95% people like you just end up 'free speeching' among your own social circle........
and in contrast, internet access as of this point fixes all of these - you CAN actually exercise that free speech right AS it should be - in a way that it would matter. you can broadcast to millions if they are interested, you can be read for millions if they are interested, and these cost you very minimal amounts.
take it away and what remains ? only the means to exercise your free speech as a rather vocal member of your own small social circle.
ignorance is bliss. really. or is it morondom. im so appalled that i dont know even what to say. have you ever seen what gets openly, publicly voiced in the israeli hardliner parties' assemblies ? like the current coalition partner, and the party of israel's exterior minister ? let me tell you - it falls nothing short of declaring that any non jew is a slave - no metaphor, no analogy - their party leaders openly, directly declare this.
no wonder why these people get little airtime so that the idiot masses in america, which need to be persuaded to support israel, remain oblivious about them.
no, you are stupid. just watch what gets talked in the public party assemblies in liebermann's party (major coalition partner in israel) and you'll see what 'democracy' is, what 'threat' means, and youll think that you are in world war ii and watching a nazi party assembly.
on contrast, all iran does is talk. it did not send any of its secret service agents to kill foreign diplomats in foreign countries to 'teach a lesson' to anyone like israel did in bahrain either. openly. they didnt even attempt to prevent being recorded by hotel's security cameras, and they used 3 different european nation's citizens' passports to pass through airports - which were all stolen by them by the way. never heard of such a thing ? why, it was even on cnn. granted, they gave it little air time. but hey - apparently they succeeded in keeping types like you ignorant.
you dont know of these. yet you have an opinion. next time you attempt to talk smack in response to something, make sure that you are well informed.
And "pray tell me" which nation has stated that they will "wipe Israel off the face of the earth", and have identified America as a nation of evil that must be destroyed?
just watch the footage of any random meeting/assembly of hardliner coalition parties in israel as of today. you will find that 'wiping a country off the face of earth' and 'a nation of evil that needs to be destroyed' would run back to mama crying when compared what liebermann et al spit in those speeches. they are basically literally saying they are the chosen race, and everyone else should be their slaves or servants. actual wordage used, are these.
what issues has israel caused in the international scene ? really ? are you a freaking idiot or you have just not been following world news in the last 2 years ? ranging from proxy bombings of whichever nation opposed israel to sending mossad agents to kill designated targets openly in countries like bahrain, illegally blockading various local populations to starve them to reengineer the population.......... forget it im not going to recount this shit here and sour my evening. the list goes on and its ugly. if you want, research yourself.
pray tell me. if you say 'they are a hardliner state', you will find israel MUCH more hardliner than any other country on the planet. just listen to what liebermann says (external affairs minister of israel). you'll be dumbfounded. just watch what gets publicly spoken in one of their leading party assemblies. youll be appalled.
the signs that israel has nuclear capability is always dodged by all international agencies and governments. yet, iran gets the heat for less.
or maybe it is because only countries that are either in angloamerican or russian alliances are entitled to have nuclear weapons ?
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'removal of money from politics'. its just naive. as long as money exists and some few have mountains of it and masses dont, money will have power. they may not give money directly to campaigns for example. but instead, the retired senators can immediately find a very juicy job at the corporation that s/he passed laws for, after his/her term ends - which was also happening by the way.
you cant remove money from politics. even in middle ages and renaissance, those with the money made the rules despite they were not aristocrats and there was no legal place for them in politics. fuggers basically reigned over charles v, the 'greatest' holy roman emperor. they kept reigning over the empire after his death, because they were the ones who were lending money to the imperial throne and spanish crown. legally they had no right to.
but see, even in systems that there should be no logical point of entry to political system, those with the money find other peripheral means to do so.
Persuaded to how this system will not work ? The one with the gold makes the rule, and the rule of the economy makes few amass the gold.
they are not even feeling the need to hide and put on a facade anymore - like they did a few decades ago. they are outright just doing whatever their paymasters paid them for directly. even the farce of 'democracy' has been dropped.
all the grandstanding bold wordage in your post, pales in the face of the fact that your senator and congressman doesnt give two shits about what you think.
they wont change anything. even if 99,999% of the society wants it. and there is no way to elect those who will change it. as evidenced by how the very basic first rule of the modern society, habeas corpus - that was there since magna carta - has gone to cinders with the recent legislation those people have produced. let me stress this again :
they dont give shit about what you think and they wont change that law of the land. and you cant elect or be elected without being filthy rich. only 1-3% of society is filthy rich. system works for them regardless of what you desire or wish
strings ? those strings fell away long ago. and their bloody mindedness has kept all these wars going.
Endless descriptions. You will find that this did not only plague Tolkien's work, but also a good many of literature pieces back in those decades and earlier. If you go back to victorian times, youll find even more descriptions.
one has to be an idiot not to be able to understand that 'being investigated twice lightly in THIRTY freaking years', counts as 'not investigated' in this context.
we see how well it is working for israel. if not for the inordinate amounts of american taxpayers' money they have been gulping since their founding, they would have been overrun by 10-12 nations decades ago.
stupidity. priceless.
i dont know whether you are incapable of reading comprehension. in case you havent noticed, i have recounted the incidents. 'repeatedly investigated' -> does not mean shit. what happened with the investigations ? how many times were they raided ? how many fines they got ?
apple - never. microsoft 2 times. that's that.
i dont know whether you are incapable of reading comprehension. in case you havent noticed, i have recounted the incidents. 'repeatedly investigated' -> does not mean shit. what happened with the investigations ? how many times were they raided ? how many fines they got ?
apple - never. microsoft 2 times. that's that.
There has never been such cases about them. they didnt have to be raided, they didnt have to delete files to escape investigation ........ they just dont get investigated. microsoft got bothered approx. 2 times in this entire 30 year period in its history. nothing more. freaking 30 years, total domination of personal computer compatibles, and just 2 times. one is the ie thing, and the other is eu's browser ballot box.
........
and dont get me started on apple.
maybe google also should start buying representatives and bureaucrats
so the minority groups that are wanting to control the society for their own profit, want to remove activities of a certain group. and your solution for that is, removing that group ?
boy. i dont know what to say - lucky us, because people like you did not constitute the majority in enlightened segments of society in history so that we were able to progress............ or, stupid you, because you think that removing piratebay would make those minority groups stop trying to control you.
They are outcompeting them. And, boeing australia is boeing's largest outfit outside continental usa.
.........
https://www.google.com/search?q=boeing+australia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
and now, not any country in eu or eu commissions (that are MUCH more stringent than any kind of regulatory body in usa or any place else) have not found any problems with boeings, but, very Inconspicuously, australians did. the fact that boeing's largest outfit outside u.s. is residing in australia, is just a coincidence, i assure you
it is helpful to society to have professors in colleges who aren't just there to provide "here's the video for the lecture, here's the choose-a-guess test, here's your certificate" classes but instead provide actual interactive discussions, answer questions relevant to the topic at hand from a learned perspective, continue to do research in the subjects they are teaching, and continually update the curriculum thereby.
youre talking as if there does not happen such discussions online. i guess you have never been to a civil, science oriented community forum ? and you are talking as if the only online education methods are khan and mitx. the fact that such discussion forums, communities, mailing lists have existed since arpanet escapes your horizon.
are you sure that you are qualified to participate in discussions pertaining to how science education should be, with your narrow horizon ?
israel can just stop fucking murdering foreign nationals in hotels in foreign countries, under the eyes of security cameras.
what am i talking about ? if you dont know what that was, just shut up, and educate yourself before talking politics.
Secondly, last I recall, citizens in other countries don't fear being blown up, shot, kidnapped, and tortured by Israelis
tell that to the bahraini who was murdered in a bahrain hotel room by 5 mossad agents. who didnt even need to avert hotel security cameras - probably to 'make an example' - and used 5 stolen passwords of real european citizens to effect the murder. it was even on cnn, and talked for days. and yet, you dont know even this, and say that 'citizens in other countries dont fear being blown up'............. wow. stupid. utterly stupid.
you dont know this, and yet you are uttering blanket statements like the above. so basically, you dont know jack shit, and yet you have composed a long tirade about things you dont know ? from the liberty sinking to the samson option, the list of things you do NOT know is SO large that it would take a half a day to compose an article to educate yourself with references and links. i will refrain.
so, next time, shut up. as an alternative, you can educate yourself. then you would be respectable and noteworthy.
The thing to do is to convince our Congressmen
those 'congressmen' do not give zit about what you think. so you cant 'convince' them either. they have been elected there by the monetary backing of private interest groups who are much richer than rest 95% of the population. only they have their ear.
you have 2 choices at this juncture :
- be richer than 5% or so of the population, that controls 72% of the wealth. (in contrast you have only 15% - so its impossible - there would be enough who made it that much up till this point if it would work)
- get rid of the economic system that allows tiny minority of population to command 70-80% of economic wealth.
- get rid of the current existing political system, in which only those who are extremely rich or have the backing of extremely rich can get elected.
What can possibly go wrong with tinkering with the most abundant insect species on the planet. A species which was recently discovered to be acting as if it was a huge, planet-wide global hive - despite they were continents apart, by the way. (story was on slashdot)
so you have the right, but you dont have the means to exercise that right.
a right that practically cant be exercised does NOT exist. that is no different from medieval serfs having the right to petition the king against lord's wrongdoings in legalese, but never having the possibility to practice.
I'd like to write a book, so I'm going to require that someone provide me with a free computer, free paper, free writing utensils, free access to commercial printing and binding machines, etc..
yes. and that's how it should be. quite far fetched? no. not more far fetched than arguing that practical impossibility of exercising a right in a way it would matter still qualifies as 'having that right.
You can say whatever you want but building an audience and venue requires consent of other people and usually money. If your words don't cause anyone to want to listen, or pay for it, etc. then that's not a problem with your rights
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. how convenient isnt it. 'you have the right to speech, but exercising it in a way it will matter requires money, and 85% of population does not have it'.
problem sorted. illusion of freedom exists, idiots get fooled, and the rest 15% who do have money to exercise it gets everything their way through that power.
figures why there is an abomination called 'tea party' in usa.
first amendment covers this. and, you have the rights to your free speech. nice. where ?
.... oh wait - that last bit turned out not to be a right.
........
in your house, among your friends, in your neighborhood, or in a public park which you can put a stool and step on it to give a speech
so, you have a right, but the means to exercise it are not your rights. so basically, whomever has the most money can publish newspapers, run tvs or appear in tvs, and all the rest 95% people like you just end up 'free speeching' among your own social circle
and in contrast, internet access as of this point fixes all of these - you CAN actually exercise that free speech right AS it should be - in a way that it would matter. you can broadcast to millions if they are interested, you can be read for millions if they are interested, and these cost you very minimal amounts.
take it away and what remains ? only the means to exercise your free speech as a rather vocal member of your own small social circle.
totally harmless. as they want you to be.
ignorance is bliss. really. or is it morondom. im so appalled that i dont know even what to say. have you ever seen what gets openly, publicly voiced in the israeli hardliner parties' assemblies ? like the current coalition partner, and the party of israel's exterior minister ? let me tell you - it falls nothing short of declaring that any non jew is a slave - no metaphor, no analogy - their party leaders openly, directly declare this.
no wonder why these people get little airtime so that the idiot masses in america, which need to be persuaded to support israel, remain oblivious about them.
no, you are stupid. just watch what gets talked in the public party assemblies in liebermann's party (major coalition partner in israel) and you'll see what 'democracy' is, what 'threat' means, and youll think that you are in world war ii and watching a nazi party assembly.
on contrast, all iran does is talk. it did not send any of its secret service agents to kill foreign diplomats in foreign countries to 'teach a lesson' to anyone like israel did in bahrain either. openly. they didnt even attempt to prevent being recorded by hotel's security cameras, and they used 3 different european nation's citizens' passports to pass through airports - which were all stolen by them by the way. never heard of such a thing ? why, it was even on cnn. granted, they gave it little air time. but hey - apparently they succeeded in keeping types like you ignorant.
you dont know of these. yet you have an opinion. next time you attempt to talk smack in response to something, make sure that you are well informed.
'samson option' ?
And "pray tell me" which nation has stated that they will "wipe Israel off the face of the earth", and have identified America as a nation of evil that must be destroyed?
just watch the footage of any random meeting/assembly of hardliner coalition parties in israel as of today. you will find that 'wiping a country off the face of earth' and 'a nation of evil that needs to be destroyed' would run back to mama crying when compared what liebermann et al spit in those speeches. they are basically literally saying they are the chosen race, and everyone else should be their slaves or servants. actual wordage used, are these.
.......... forget it im not going to recount this shit here and sour my evening. the list goes on and its ugly. if you want, research yourself.
what issues has israel caused in the international scene ? really ? are you a freaking idiot or you have just not been following world news in the last 2 years ? ranging from proxy bombings of whichever nation opposed israel to sending mossad agents to kill designated targets openly in countries like bahrain, illegally blockading various local populations to starve them to reengineer the population
pray tell me. if you say 'they are a hardliner state', you will find israel MUCH more hardliner than any other country on the planet. just listen to what liebermann says (external affairs minister of israel). you'll be dumbfounded. just watch what gets publicly spoken in one of their leading party assemblies. youll be appalled.
the signs that israel has nuclear capability is always dodged by all international agencies and governments. yet, iran gets the heat for less.
or maybe it is because only countries that are either in angloamerican or russian alliances are entitled to have nuclear weapons ?
never mind. the question was rhetorical.