Its lowest layer is dated 9130-8800 BC. That's fucking 11,130 years ago. its the oldest place of worship. Also :
Göbekli Tepe is the oldest human-made place of worship yet discovered.[2] Until excavations began, a complex on this scale was not thought possible for a community so ancient. The massive sequence of stratification layers suggests several millennia of activity, perhaps reaching back to the Mesolithic. The oldest occupation layer (stratum III) contains monolithic pillars linked by coarsely built walls to form circular or oval structures. So far, four such buildings, with diameters between 10 and 30m have been uncovered. Geophysical surveys indicate the existence of 16 additional structures.
Stratum II, dated to Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) (7500 - 6000 BC), has revealed several adjacent rectangular rooms with floors of polished lime, reminiscent of Roman terrazzo floors. The most recent layer consists of sediment deposited as the result of agricultural activity.
Moreover, this is more important - it seems to be the place where mankind first domesticated wheat:
While the site formally belongs to the earliest Neolithic (PPN A), up to now no traces of domesticated plants or animals have been found. The inhabitants were hunters and gatherers who nevertheless lived in villages for at least part of the year.[7] Schmidt speculates that the site played a key function in the transition to agriculture; he assumes that the necessary social organization needed for the creation of these structures went hand-in-hand with the organized exploitation of wild crops. For sustenance, wild cereals may have been used more intensively than before; perhaps they were even deliberately cultivated. Recent DNA analysis of modern domesticated wheat compared with wild wheat has shown that its DNA is closest in structure to wild wheat found on Mount Karaca Da 20 miles away from the site, leading one to believe that this is where modern wheat was first domesticated.[8]
Well, I am not going to speculate on where you learned roman history, making such assumptions seems counter-productive:)
long, self-study through numerous independent resources, offline and online.
You must have a non-standard definition of profit. Usually when a company reports monetary profit (or, net profit) it works, but only on a large scale, e.g. the company took in more selling than they cost to produce. This doesn't work on an individual scale, otherwise you would be reporting a monetary loss of, say, $250 for a Wii. Profit means you decided it would leave you better off than the alternative. Even though you may not enjoy paying $6/gal for gas, it is better than not getting it, therefore you profit (again, even if you don't enjoy it).
the problem here is not with profits. they may rise or lower their profit treshold depending on their political needs at the time, just like how the oil cartels in close friendship with gop have lowered or suspended oil prices prior to elections last year.
the problem here is CONTROL.
Again, freedom does not guarantee a certain number of choices. Just because you have the freedom to choose what or what you do not get, does not mean that you get to choose between two or more things. Largely this is a good thing, for instance it is counter productive to offer more than one Internet service in the US, while there are other areas that have no coverage. Instead of competing for a few people in one area, you could offer service to people who do not have any service at all, and benefit far more people. In other cases, like groceries, say, competition is profitable, and the public is benefited that way. For some services like air travel a regional monopoly would be inefficient, but thousands of airlines wouldn't have the capital necessary to serve the public efficiently either. Generally the market, when there is no violence (that government threatens) largely satisfies human wants not completely but as efficiently as possible.
You must also have a non-standard definition of choice. Companies have the choice of what to offer you, and you have the choice to take it. But the important thing is that no exchange is made unless you both voluntarily agree.
Perhaps I misspoke, selfishness when there is a threat of violence is typically bad. Selfishness when the only way you can be selfish is in return for something someone else offers you, it benefits both parties. This is by definition, it is called "voluntary exchange."
If I understand your definitions correctly I don't see any disagreement.
freedom has to be guaranteeing certain number of choices, because it is in the definition of freedom itself. if you are buying similar service from the SAME ultimate corporation, there is no freedom. and the choices you have can be arranged to fit the needs of that particular company.
you seem to be skipping at what cost we got the fundamental requirement of modern society - modern liberties and universal political suffrage meant that there were many inefficiencies in political mechanisms of countries, but, DESPITE that cost we have embraced them to establish the modern world.
same applies to your technical issues about how to incentivize rural areas for internet and efficiency of monopolies or near monopolies.
... in these researches. you know, the tone that they like to push into everything concerning evolution.
like, the guy doesnt like beating down people from close circle while establishing 'social hierarchy', because he feels he 'needs them'. it cant possibly be because people may not like hurting the ones close to them or making them sad.
impossible. it HAS to be something pragmatic, darwinian survivalist, cutthroat, cold, heartless. there should be NO emotion that has positive undertones involved. for, if there is, then, well, the whole research would be ridiculed and invalidated or something isnt it. people cant have positive emotions. every shit has to be tied into something pragmatic and self serving.
can you POSSIBLy be proposing that, while their entertainment/software division SOE sucks THAT bad, their other divisions wont be suffering from the same 'they are bags of dirt' outlook against their customers because they are under the same corporate roof ?
what was that fucking ROOTKIT ordeal that they pushed on to us ? installing rootkits to our computers ? im sorry ? what ? was it a different time/space continuum than ours ?
i advise you that you dont push your hate-filled bullshit and instead open up your eyes. sony is a corporation. any division under it is under the same corporate roof, with similar philosophy. electronics division wont be a bunch of straight people where all other divisions are assholes.
As in any MMO, loot, achievements, and other acquired goals/recourses play a major role in defining a player's sense of accomplishment in the game.
you eq/wow drones. because of the hype you created endlessly blabbing about 'goals/achievements/resources/accomplishment/success', gaming has turned into a fucking job than an entertainment in the last 10 years.
go die in a corner. and fuck your accomplishments. accomplishments are for real life.
all that wall of text you typed tells me that you are just another eq bimbo (you can replace eq with wow, practically same) which prefer to be put in confined spaces with defined routes to go. you dont love to take initiative, dream, and create your own projects, but rather prefer to 'progress' in narrow, safe confines someone else forced on you.
yours is not entertainment. its a small career progression simulation. no wonder you were baffled with the 'complexity' that was there in pre nge swg. you couldnt even realize that there was no complexity, there was just customization and therefore freedom.
I never said we had the guarantee of choice. Do you care to quote me on that? I said we have freedom. No one can force you to buy something, nor can (well, should) they prevent you from buying something. It is your decision.
it is NOT your decision. that's what you dont understand. that's why i gave you procter&gamble example. half of what you can buy in your area will be coming from the same ultimate source. half of what you can buy in another area you relocate, will be coming from the same ultimate source too.
I entirely agree, the mega-cooperations in bed with government is WRONG. In no way should there be welfare for cooperations. If you cannot turn a profit, you fail and let someone else have their chance to be productive. That is an argument to decrease the power of government, if they had no power to tell companies what to do, they couldn't have bailed them out. You can't say both I am going to tell you how to operate, and then guarantee your success with taxpayer money, it is a financial black hole, not to mention corporate fascism.
what is a government ?
it is something that has the decision power on how certain things be done, and how certain things cant be done.
what is a corporation ? it is something that acquires resources, turns them into products and services, and offers them for consumption.
a corporation decides how all that process of acquiring resources, creating products and services and consumption offerings will happen. it also decides how its products and services are going to be, and the price.
if a company as big as p&g in chemicals, another as big as time warner in broadcasting and publishing, another as big as GM in car manufacturing, another as big as Chase Manhattan in banking, another big healthcare corporation, another big farming corporation are interlinked through conglomerates or shareholder interest linkages, what happens ?
they basically become the source which decides how everything from brushing your teeth to watching tv, to your ride to your atm, from the thing you will eat to the way you are going to die, will be.
basically, they become the deciders of how a portion of people will live their lives.
let 4-5 conglomerates like this happen, and they basically become the de facto rulers of your country.
just take note how products and services are priced similarly in your country. one would think that it was the market deciding those prices, and those were the minimums that they could profit under those market conditions. but really ?
i mean, REALLY ?
with all the manufacturing gone to china which employs slave workers in its factories, the cost of manufacturing things have come down to cents, yet, everything sells from similar prices as they were sold from 15 years ago ? WHY isnt there 'competition' ? why isnt any big company trying to pull down prices and get ahead ?
this should tell you how little control and choice you have in your lives. leave aside guarantee of freedom of choice, you do NOT have freedom of choice.
even the cds which are being manufactured and distributed with a few cents total cost (even with the initial creative work cost overhead accounted into millions of copies), but still are being sold from 15-20 bucks. this is an example everyone is aware of, because it happens in front of our eyes. the rest, not.
in that regard, big conglomerates are little different from dukedoms, and megacorporations from countys. if there is no central, more powerful government, such hierarchical power structures are automatically created. because, in a lawless chaotic environment where power struggle is allowed, bigger fish subdues smaller fish and creates an order. that has been the case throughout history, and wont change because we no longer kill each other in petty feudal wars. the feudalism is economic now.
excuse me, but the 'freedom of choice' in market is total bullshit. all of the 'choices' you can make on the 'market' belong to companies which are either stakeholdings of bigger groups which are, in turn, belong to big conglomerates. if you look at names like procter & gamble, you will see that. there are seemingly zillions of brands in the market for everything, but actually, they stem from similar sources.
all that bullcrap you are trying to sell in the guise of freedom, were sold in roman republic at some time, and they were the reason why the republic turned into an empire with a single man at top first, then turned into the serf-slave culture with landholding elite aristocrats starting at the middle ages.
you really need to study some history. for, if not learned, history repeats itself.
all hte talk you have given me here is practically the exact sermon of the church of holistic economy, led by alan greenspan.
IF, it had ANY credibility, the unbelievable global SCAM that happened with what the megacorporations pulled in wall street that led to the mega crash of 8-10 months ago, would NOT have happened.
the reality is, DESPITE there were some rules and regulations there to prevent such shit, even the government lacked in regulating the corporations so that they wouldnt be poisoning ENTIRE global financial market with the dud assets they 'created'. why ? because even the government in power in the timespan that crisis was created, was a republican government, over a republican senate over a republican congress, ALL placed there thanks to the support (basically money) of the very same corporations.
money makes might. the ONLY power you as a citizen have, against bigger money to save your own ass, is the government. nothing else. left to their own devices, the corporations who offer their goods in exchange for your 'money' wouldnt care about your choices or freedoms a single bit, actually not even your money, and find means (and they do) to make you into a drone who would do what's best for their profit without your consent.
if you dont remember (or your head was buried in deep sand to not know), 1-1.5 years ago some companies in california tried to brand their workers with rfid implants to improve 'security', until california senate banned such shit. if it wasnt for the california senate, probably half of the workers in many american factories would have been branded by now. get a loaad of that.
get this in your head : 'private' interests have lives of their own, and due to the philosophy, they dont care about anyone's freedoms, or profit, but their own. let to themselves, eventually, just like in ANY conflicting dynamic, the stronger powers subdue the lesser powers and create a singular hierarchy (be it tight, or loose like shareholder and conglomerateship). this had happened in the form of big landholders in the past, which led to aristocracy, serfdom and middle ages, this happens in the form of market cornering, lobbying, and practically buying laws in order to bend the people to their will, today.
humanity invented central government with judiciary and regulatory powers in order to cramp down on 'private interests' cramping down on people 200 years ago. and even today, your ONLY power to protect your rights against any group or interest which has more power than you, is the biggest corporation of all, the government. you are a natural and inalienable shareholder of that corporation in equal standing, UNLESS you let that shareholdership or your corporation get eroded by the smaller corporations' interest. (just like how all those finance corps had done in the alan greenspan era and following republican years by lobbying, getting a free reign in wall street to SCAM entire world).
the SAME WSJ which didnt make any sound about where the 500 bn/year was being bured in iraq, and how and WHY haliburton had felt the need to relocate its hq to Qatar, when their financial proceedings were started being questioned in the senate.
wsj, mouthpiece of the CRAP that brought us the global mega crisis through an international, top-grade SCAM. they actually had a huge hand in perpetrating it too, through the shitty promotion they made about those 'mortgage backed securities' and all the scam it encompasses for all those years. a bunch of monkeys would be more reliable in regard to advising about economy.
the affected innocent account holder may not have the means to sue the shit out of that incompetent bank. public prosecution laws are needed to make sure that no party pulls out that kind of stunt on anyone, just because they have the money pull out shitty stunts on any 'small people' they think they may chew down.
its bank's INCOMPETENCE. TWICE. not only once. first, they were incompetent enough to have such lacking information security practices that someone was able to send critical data to a random email account on the web.
second, they were incompetent enough to actually file a suit to the end of hampering an innocent person's life, to whatever extent it may be. and it might be a serious extent, if that person was using his/her gmail account for serious correspondence. and this is despite the ethical concerns of doing something as such.
therefore, i call that bank INCOMPETENT, for that's what they are. anyone who is an account holder of that bank should withdraw their deposits from that bank, for, if their level of incompetence is that high, then it is sure that they are screwing up in many other respects.
public prosecution. we need public prosecution of people and organizations and corporations, in case they try to have their way with the law by filing suits that violate human rights and individual freedoms. they should get their ass fined out of their mouth, so that noone will attempt such shit.
because its like a miracle hobby - you do some stuff, in the end you create some stuff, and what you create actually DOES stuff. AND on top of that you can always modify what you have later, after you created it. that beats out all kinds of hobbies that are currently on the face of planet.
enjoy. i bet they will even attempt to do this with your OWN money through public funds in near future.
noone give me shit about 'american dream' and 'big brother' anymore. this happens when you dont have the 'big brother' -> your OWN government controlled by YOU, cracking down 'private interests' attempting to rip your freedoms and brainwash YOUR kids for their OWN interests.
no other country harbors enough evil on its top ranks of administration and economy as america that they actually go try to infest other countries. this happens only in america.
if you STILL dont know that, that's the word to describe you. youre just another ignorant american.
check scandinavian countries. while local sheriffs are wanting to expose those who criticized on the net in america, in sweden the individual freedoms issues are at the level of 'whether swedish women should be allowed to not wear a bra in public beaches'. which, the women has won, and a court decided that it was inalienable right to be topless.
this should demonstrate how sorry a state you are in.
i want to beat them each with a thick stick. maybe this can put some sense into their heads. how STUPID can someone be, to leave his/her freedoms in the hands of private people and groups, over whom s/he has no control with. it seems like some morons are SO affected by decades of brainwashing that they think that word 'private' is synonymous to the word 'good'.
die out please, will you ? most of you are generally old anyway. just phase out and leave this world be. your time is past.
noone give me the shit that 'american system works' anymore. and noone feed me the bullshit that 'its like that everywhere in the world' either. it isnt. a lot of that corporate filth is cooked in america right on top of your head with the money they earn from you, legislated in your assembly with the reps your votes put there, and attempted to enforce on other countries in the world with your taxpayer money.
you, basically american citizens, who are the ones most suffering from this, are ironically the ones who are perpetrating this shit indirectly.
if you dont wake up and shake the lie that 'american dream' (what a fucking dream; you have similar chance of getting filthy rich just as the chance that a normal serf in A.D. 1000 had for becoming a noble through proving his valor in battle), they'll demand that you pay royalties for the lullaby you sing to your children next.
i know a lot of you oldtimers who are still filled with last decade's propaganda and brainwashing will get angry with me and this will get downmodded, but, take the time to have a look at your country. everyone is trying any kind of means to extort money from anyone. patent trolls, strangling companies deceiving and milking users, filthy relations in between representatives and industry interests, corruption of justice.. anything goes.
im sure there is a goodly number of you who will be further infuriated because youre thinking america is the best place to live on earth still, 'far out'. i hate to break it to you that thats just another propaganda. there are a number of countries which surpassed america in their promise of freedom and wealth. i dont even need to mention which are these. and probably those of you who still think 'the american dream works' probably wouldnt have bothered to look further than your borders either. so ill save the effort.
but still take the time to reflect and realize that things are going bad in your country, and act up.
'energy','solvent' - these are all our assumptions and definitions. each 100 years we are discovering a new energy form, and each 20-30 years a new substance or a molecule. only thing this equation will estimate will be planets holding life/civilization SIMILAR to our own, because the equation is being constructer with our current understanding and science. life on any planet will depend on whatever materials available on that planet. even in our planet we have single cell organisms that have different basis then the common basis.
Probably the best thing ever happened to mankind
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because it is the culmination of all the good things that happened to mankind.
now it brings people together, regardless of location, time, situation, condition, race, gender, nation, age, occupation, social status, from all over the world. even if their governments or rulers do not want that.
children around the world growing up together playing same games, growing up in the flourishing new internet culture. when they are grown up, all of them will have much more in common than previous generations. this will remove many barriers and estrangements in between the nations.
released LIVE passwords to the LIVE and sensitive system, to public court, as evidence ?
if those MORONS said that the world was round, i would be inclined to believe it was flat. i stressed the word MORON many times, because, there can be no other explanation for their failure in logic, and their sheer incompetence, than a mental handicap.
they were also the ones leaning on centuries old laws to assert their 'rights' as lawful. i see little difference in the implementation of such stupidity on behalf of a private interest by a court, than a french aristocrat enforcing his 'rights' over local people through a french court back in 1780.
they needed their heads chopped to get it mildly right. i dont think the current 'nobility' of the capitalist system will let you go with anything less.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
Its lowest layer is dated 9130-8800 BC. That's fucking 11,130 years ago. its the oldest place of worship. Also :
Göbekli Tepe is the oldest human-made place of worship yet discovered.[2] Until excavations began, a complex on this scale was not thought possible for a community so ancient. The massive sequence of stratification layers suggests several millennia of activity, perhaps reaching back to the Mesolithic. The oldest occupation layer (stratum III) contains monolithic pillars linked by coarsely built walls to form circular or oval structures. So far, four such buildings, with diameters between 10 and 30m have been uncovered. Geophysical surveys indicate the existence of 16 additional structures.
Stratum II, dated to Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) (7500 - 6000 BC), has revealed several adjacent rectangular rooms with floors of polished lime, reminiscent of Roman terrazzo floors. The most recent layer consists of sediment deposited as the result of agricultural activity.
Moreover, this is more important - it seems to be the place where mankind first domesticated wheat :
While the site formally belongs to the earliest Neolithic (PPN A), up to now no traces of domesticated plants or animals have been found. The inhabitants were hunters and gatherers who nevertheless lived in villages for at least part of the year.[7] Schmidt speculates that the site played a key function in the transition to agriculture; he assumes that the necessary social organization needed for the creation of these structures went hand-in-hand with the organized exploitation of wild crops. For sustenance, wild cereals may have been used more intensively than before; perhaps they were even deliberately cultivated. Recent DNA analysis of modern domesticated wheat compared with wild wheat has shown that its DNA is closest in structure to wild wheat found on Mount Karaca Da 20 miles away from the site, leading one to believe that this is where modern wheat was first domesticated.[8]
enjoy.
Well, I am not going to speculate on where you learned roman history, making such assumptions seems counter-productive :)
long, self-study through numerous independent resources, offline and online.
You must have a non-standard definition of profit. Usually when a company reports monetary profit (or, net profit) it works, but only on a large scale, e.g. the company took in more selling than they cost to produce. This doesn't work on an individual scale, otherwise you would be reporting a monetary loss of, say, $250 for a Wii. Profit means you decided it would leave you better off than the alternative. Even though you may not enjoy paying $6/gal for gas, it is better than not getting it, therefore you profit (again, even if you don't enjoy it).
the problem here is not with profits. they may rise or lower their profit treshold depending on their political needs at the time, just like how the oil cartels in close friendship with gop have lowered or suspended oil prices prior to elections last year.
the problem here is CONTROL.
Again, freedom does not guarantee a certain number of choices. Just because you have the freedom to choose what or what you do not get, does not mean that you get to choose between two or more things. Largely this is a good thing, for instance it is counter productive to offer more than one Internet service in the US, while there are other areas that have no coverage. Instead of competing for a few people in one area, you could offer service to people who do not have any service at all, and benefit far more people. In other cases, like groceries, say, competition is profitable, and the public is benefited that way. For some services like air travel a regional monopoly would be inefficient, but thousands of airlines wouldn't have the capital necessary to serve the public efficiently either. Generally the market, when there is no violence (that government threatens) largely satisfies human wants not completely but as efficiently as possible.
You must also have a non-standard definition of choice. Companies have the choice of what to offer you, and you have the choice to take it. But the important thing is that no exchange is made unless you both voluntarily agree.
Perhaps I misspoke, selfishness when there is a threat of violence is typically bad. Selfishness when the only way you can be selfish is in return for something someone else offers you, it benefits both parties. This is by definition, it is called "voluntary exchange."
If I understand your definitions correctly I don't see any disagreement.
freedom has to be guaranteeing certain number of choices, because it is in the definition of freedom itself. if you are buying similar service from the SAME ultimate corporation, there is no freedom. and the choices you have can be arranged to fit the needs of that particular company.
you seem to be skipping at what cost we got the fundamental requirement of modern society - modern liberties and universal political suffrage meant that there were many inefficiencies in political mechanisms of countries, but, DESPITE that cost we have embraced them to establish the modern world.
same applies to your technical issues about how to incentivize rural areas for internet and efficiency of monopolies or near monopolies.
small prices to pay, for real freedom.
a freedom in appearance is not real.
and call everything off there, so we can be done with this pile of crap ? thank you.
... in these researches. you know, the tone that they like to push into everything concerning evolution.
like, the guy doesnt like beating down people from close circle while establishing 'social hierarchy', because he feels he 'needs them'. it cant possibly be because people may not like hurting the ones close to them or making them sad.
impossible. it HAS to be something pragmatic, darwinian survivalist, cutthroat, cold, heartless. there should be NO emotion that has positive undertones involved. for, if there is, then, well, the whole research would be ridiculed and invalidated or something isnt it. people cant have positive emotions. every shit has to be tied into something pragmatic and self serving.
i have two words to say to that :
fuck that.
what exactly is the purpose of your post ?
can you POSSIBLy be proposing that, while their entertainment/software division SOE sucks THAT bad, their other divisions wont be suffering from the same 'they are bags of dirt' outlook against their customers because they are under the same corporate roof ?
what was that fucking ROOTKIT ordeal that they pushed on to us ? installing rootkits to our computers ? im sorry ? what ? was it a different time/space continuum than ours ?
i advise you that you dont push your hate-filled bullshit and instead open up your eyes. sony is a corporation. any division under it is under the same corporate roof, with similar philosophy. electronics division wont be a bunch of straight people where all other divisions are assholes.
As in any MMO, loot, achievements, and other acquired goals/recourses play a major role in defining a player's sense of accomplishment in the game.
you eq/wow drones. because of the hype you created endlessly blabbing about 'goals/achievements/resources/accomplishment/success', gaming has turned into a fucking job than an entertainment in the last 10 years.
go die in a corner. and fuck your accomplishments. accomplishments are for real life.
all that wall of text you typed tells me that you are just another eq bimbo (you can replace eq with wow, practically same) which prefer to be put in confined spaces with defined routes to go. you dont love to take initiative, dream, and create your own projects, but rather prefer to 'progress' in narrow, safe confines someone else forced on you.
yours is not entertainment. its a small career progression simulation. no wonder you were baffled with the 'complexity' that was there in pre nge swg. you couldnt even realize that there was no complexity, there was just customization and therefore freedom.
I never said we had the guarantee of choice. Do you care to quote me on that? I said we have freedom. No one can force you to buy something, nor can (well, should) they prevent you from buying something. It is your decision.
it is NOT your decision. that's what you dont understand. that's why i gave you procter&gamble example. half of what you can buy in your area will be coming from the same ultimate source. half of what you can buy in another area you relocate, will be coming from the same ultimate source too.
I entirely agree, the mega-cooperations in bed with government is WRONG. In no way should there be welfare for cooperations. If you cannot turn a profit, you fail and let someone else have their chance to be productive. That is an argument to decrease the power of government, if they had no power to tell companies what to do, they couldn't have bailed them out. You can't say both I am going to tell you how to operate, and then guarantee your success with taxpayer money, it is a financial black hole, not to mention corporate fascism.
what is a government ?
it is something that has the decision power on how certain things be done, and how certain things cant be done.
what is a corporation ? it is something that acquires resources, turns them into products and services, and offers them for consumption.
a corporation decides how all that process of acquiring resources, creating products and services and consumption offerings will happen. it also decides how its products and services are going to be, and the price.
if a company as big as p&g in chemicals, another as big as time warner in broadcasting and publishing, another as big as GM in car manufacturing, another as big as Chase Manhattan in banking, another big healthcare corporation, another big farming corporation are interlinked through conglomerates or shareholder interest linkages, what happens ?
they basically become the source which decides how everything from brushing your teeth to watching tv, to your ride to your atm, from the thing you will eat to the way you are going to die, will be.
basically, they become the deciders of how a portion of people will live their lives.
let 4-5 conglomerates like this happen, and they basically become the de facto rulers of your country.
just take note how products and services are priced similarly in your country. one would think that it was the market deciding those prices, and those were the minimums that they could profit under those market conditions. but really ?
i mean, REALLY ?
with all the manufacturing gone to china which employs slave workers in its factories, the cost of manufacturing things have come down to cents, yet, everything sells from similar prices as they were sold from 15 years ago ? WHY isnt there 'competition' ? why isnt any big company trying to pull down prices and get ahead ?
this should tell you how little control and choice you have in your lives. leave aside guarantee of freedom of choice, you do NOT have freedom of choice.
even the cds which are being manufactured and distributed with a few cents total cost (even with the initial creative work cost overhead accounted into millions of copies), but still are being sold from 15-20 bucks. this is an example everyone is aware of, because it happens in front of our eyes. the rest, not.
in that regard, big conglomerates are little different from dukedoms, and megacorporations from countys. if there is no central, more powerful government, such hierarchical power structures are automatically created. because, in a lawless chaotic environment where power struggle is allowed, bigger fish subdues smaller fish and creates an order. that has been the case throughout history, and wont change because we no longer kill each other in petty feudal wars. the feudalism is economic now.
there is only one thing that can prevent
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I wanted them to overhaul the combat system so that it actually promoted grouping with other players
basically you wanted them to make the game into another fucking eq grind clone.
please, dont play any games anymore. or, dont express your views.
excuse me, but the 'freedom of choice' in market is total bullshit. all of the 'choices' you can make on the 'market' belong to companies which are either stakeholdings of bigger groups which are, in turn, belong to big conglomerates. if you look at names like procter & gamble, you will see that. there are seemingly zillions of brands in the market for everything, but actually, they stem from similar sources.
all that bullcrap you are trying to sell in the guise of freedom, were sold in roman republic at some time, and they were the reason why the republic turned into an empire with a single man at top first, then turned into the serf-slave culture with landholding elite aristocrats starting at the middle ages.
you really need to study some history. for, if not learned, history repeats itself.
all hte talk you have given me here is practically the exact sermon of the church of holistic economy, led by alan greenspan.
IF, it had ANY credibility, the unbelievable global SCAM that happened with what the megacorporations pulled in wall street that led to the mega crash of 8-10 months ago, would NOT have happened.
the reality is, DESPITE there were some rules and regulations there to prevent such shit, even the government lacked in regulating the corporations so that they wouldnt be poisoning ENTIRE global financial market with the dud assets they 'created'. why ? because even the government in power in the timespan that crisis was created, was a republican government, over a republican senate over a republican congress, ALL placed there thanks to the support (basically money) of the very same corporations.
money makes might. the ONLY power you as a citizen have, against bigger money to save your own ass, is the government. nothing else. left to their own devices, the corporations who offer their goods in exchange for your 'money' wouldnt care about your choices or freedoms a single bit, actually not even your money, and find means (and they do) to make you into a drone who would do what's best for their profit without your consent.
if you dont remember (or your head was buried in deep sand to not know), 1-1.5 years ago some companies in california tried to brand their workers with rfid implants to improve 'security', until california senate banned such shit. if it wasnt for the california senate, probably half of the workers in many american factories would have been branded by now. get a loaad of that.
get this in your head : 'private' interests have lives of their own, and due to the philosophy, they dont care about anyone's freedoms, or profit, but their own. let to themselves, eventually, just like in ANY conflicting dynamic, the stronger powers subdue the lesser powers and create a singular hierarchy (be it tight, or loose like shareholder and conglomerateship). this had happened in the form of big landholders in the past, which led to aristocracy, serfdom and middle ages, this happens in the form of market cornering, lobbying, and practically buying laws in order to bend the people to their will, today.
humanity invented central government with judiciary and regulatory powers in order to cramp down on 'private interests' cramping down on people 200 years ago. and even today, your ONLY power to protect your rights against any group or interest which has more power than you, is the biggest corporation of all, the government. you are a natural and inalienable shareholder of that corporation in equal standing, UNLESS you let that shareholdership or your corporation get eroded by the smaller corporations' interest. (just like how all those finance corps had done in the alan greenspan era and following republican years by lobbying, getting a free reign in wall street to SCAM entire world).
also, take up reading history.
the SAME WSJ which didnt make any sound about where the 500 bn/year was being bured in iraq, and how and WHY haliburton had felt the need to relocate its hq to Qatar, when their financial proceedings were started being questioned in the senate.
wsj, mouthpiece of the CRAP that brought us the global mega crisis through an international, top-grade SCAM. they actually had a huge hand in perpetrating it too, through the shitty promotion they made about those 'mortgage backed securities' and all the scam it encompasses for all those years. a bunch of monkeys would be more reliable in regard to advising about economy.
the affected innocent account holder may not have the means to sue the shit out of that incompetent bank. public prosecution laws are needed to make sure that no party pulls out that kind of stunt on anyone, just because they have the money pull out shitty stunts on any 'small people' they think they may chew down.
its bank's INCOMPETENCE. TWICE. not only once. first, they were incompetent enough to have such lacking information security practices that someone was able to send critical data to a random email account on the web.
second, they were incompetent enough to actually file a suit to the end of hampering an innocent person's life, to whatever extent it may be. and it might be a serious extent, if that person was using his/her gmail account for serious correspondence. and this is despite the ethical concerns of doing something as such.
therefore, i call that bank INCOMPETENT, for that's what they are. anyone who is an account holder of that bank should withdraw their deposits from that bank, for, if their level of incompetence is that high, then it is sure that they are screwing up in many other respects.
public prosecution. we need public prosecution of people and organizations and corporations, in case they try to have their way with the law by filing suits that violate human rights and individual freedoms. they should get their ass fined out of their mouth, so that noone will attempt such shit.
because its like a miracle hobby - you do some stuff, in the end you create some stuff, and what you create actually DOES stuff. AND on top of that you can always modify what you have later, after you created it. that beats out all kinds of hobbies that are currently on the face of planet.
enjoy. i bet they will even attempt to do this with your OWN money through public funds in near future.
noone give me shit about 'american dream' and 'big brother' anymore. this happens when you dont have the 'big brother' -> your OWN government controlled by YOU, cracking down 'private interests' attempting to rip your freedoms and brainwash YOUR kids for their OWN interests.
no other country harbors enough evil on its top ranks of administration and economy as america that they actually go try to infest other countries. this happens only in america.
if you STILL dont know that, that's the word to describe you. youre just another ignorant american.
check scandinavian countries. while local sheriffs are wanting to expose those who criticized on the net in america, in sweden the individual freedoms issues are at the level of 'whether swedish women should be allowed to not wear a bra in public beaches'. which, the women has won, and a court decided that it was inalienable right to be topless.
this should demonstrate how sorry a state you are in.
one misstep, after the 23423295693 missteps they have made.
with 'bigbrother'.
i want to beat them each with a thick stick. maybe this can put some sense into their heads. how STUPID can someone be, to leave his/her freedoms in the hands of private people and groups, over whom s/he has no control with. it seems like some morons are SO affected by decades of brainwashing that they think that word 'private' is synonymous to the word 'good'.
die out please, will you ? most of you are generally old anyway. just phase out and leave this world be. your time is past.
noone give me the shit that 'american system works' anymore. and noone feed me the bullshit that 'its like that everywhere in the world' either. it isnt. a lot of that corporate filth is cooked in america right on top of your head with the money they earn from you, legislated in your assembly with the reps your votes put there, and attempted to enforce on other countries in the world with your taxpayer money.
you, basically american citizens, who are the ones most suffering from this, are ironically the ones who are perpetrating this shit indirectly.
if you dont wake up and shake the lie that 'american dream' (what a fucking dream; you have similar chance of getting filthy rich just as the chance that a normal serf in A.D. 1000 had for becoming a noble through proving his valor in battle), they'll demand that you pay royalties for the lullaby you sing to your children next.
i know a lot of you oldtimers who are still filled with last decade's propaganda and brainwashing will get angry with me and this will get downmodded, but, take the time to have a look at your country. everyone is trying any kind of means to extort money from anyone. patent trolls, strangling companies deceiving and milking users, filthy relations in between representatives and industry interests, corruption of justice .. anything goes.
im sure there is a goodly number of you who will be further infuriated because youre thinking america is the best place to live on earth still, 'far out'. i hate to break it to you that thats just another propaganda. there are a number of countries which surpassed america in their promise of freedom and wealth. i dont even need to mention which are these. and probably those of you who still think 'the american dream works' probably wouldnt have bothered to look further than your borders either. so ill save the effort.
but still take the time to reflect and realize that things are going bad in your country, and act up.
'energy','solvent' - these are all our assumptions and definitions. each 100 years we are discovering a new energy form, and each 20-30 years a new substance or a molecule. only thing this equation will estimate will be planets holding life/civilization SIMILAR to our own, because the equation is being constructer with our current understanding and science. life on any planet will depend on whatever materials available on that planet. even in our planet we have single cell organisms that have different basis then the common basis.
because it is the culmination of all the good things that happened to mankind.
now it brings people together, regardless of location, time, situation, condition, race, gender, nation, age, occupation, social status, from all over the world. even if their governments or rulers do not want that.
children around the world growing up together playing same games, growing up in the flourishing new internet culture. when they are grown up, all of them will have much more in common than previous generations. this will remove many barriers and estrangements in between the nations.
internet is very important.
released LIVE passwords to the LIVE and sensitive system, to public court, as evidence ?
if those MORONS said that the world was round, i would be inclined to believe it was flat. i stressed the word MORON many times, because, there can be no other explanation for their failure in logic, and their sheer incompetence, than a mental handicap.
they were also the ones leaning on centuries old laws to assert their 'rights' as lawful. i see little difference in the implementation of such stupidity on behalf of a private interest by a court, than a french aristocrat enforcing his 'rights' over local people through a french court back in 1780.
they needed their heads chopped to get it mildly right. i dont think the current 'nobility' of the capitalist system will let you go with anything less.