isnt there any other vendor out there providing business solutions ? its not like everyone is going to jump into exchange wagon because they couldnt do with google apps. geez.
he wants to bolster business, but he wants to kill what made internet so big a field for doing business in - network neutrality, which ensures that the small entrepreneur and the big boy start equal on everything ? at least almost ? and turn the tables for benefit of big buck corporations ?
its your country. everything is at HYPERinflated prices there. the cost of decent living therefore is stupefying high.
includes everything from food prices to college education. so someone pays 100 k to a college, and expects to be paid enough to pay it out ? from whence does that guaranteed mindset come ? in a free market, you are shelling out $100k to get ahead of others, knowing that adding extra value to yourself will get you ahead, according to MARKET rules, but when you get out, you expect a wage OUTSIDE of the market rules ?
well. hypocrisy.
and im sure to receive a lot of selfish, self-righteous replies to this post from people who talk very sanely and reasonably on other subjects.
never fails. neither they have become the bitch of the industry like the ones in u.s., nor they have gone stupid while trying to lick the boots of the music cartels, but just went simple and efficient.
countries for immigration. why ? with such stupid draconian, boot licking laws as these, graduates in other countries will not be choosing britain either for grad study, or immigration and working.
there britain goes down the drain in terms of brain power. right at the time the entire population average was becoming too old to support the country too.
you gotta love politicians. for a few dollars, they can sink their own country.
software that is. the only people who decide what goes as standards are developers of software. if individual developers and software houses do not like OOXML and make their software accommodate it, it doesnt have a snowball's chance in hell, REGARDLESS of what you chant around. REGARDLESS of who microsoft or any other company bribes, regardless of which country mandates which standard, whichever standard wins the most support from programmers, developers, whomever creates software, will be the winner.
Why should they be forced to? Someone who makes the right choices in life (get an education, not get pregnant at 15, etc...) and becomes successful should now be forced to support those who made the poor choices? One of the reasons we're in this credit/housing mess right now is that we aren't letting people take the punishment for their poor choices. It's easy to take extreme risks when you think the government will always come to bail you out. Keep in mind I'm pointing at everyone from the greedy hedge fund guys on wall street to the hair dresser who buys an overpriced house 'because real estate goes up 20%/year.'
ill tell you why they should be forced to.
because THEY ARE MAKING USE OF THE RESOURCES AND ADVANTAGES OF BEING A SOCIETY
its plainly, flat out, this. mankind is only out of the caves and reaching for the stars because they have developed the ability to be a SOCIETY, and a compassionate, caring one at that. there are many kinds of societies in animal world, like the darwinian hellhole you picture - weak is left to die for the betterment of the herd, strong genetic strain lives and that shit. whereas the monkeys who constituted ancestors to this civilization had developed the habit of caring for EVEN their weak and disabled. (there are bones of early humanoids with disabilities who had lived a long life, which is not possible without the group caring for them). THAT was the thing that allowed the mankind to be able to develop tools, because they were able to play with stuff that is not vital to direct survival.
so here you are, basically in 21st century, proposing a darwinian, survivalist environment in 21st century technological level, to the contrary of what brought us to this state. let me tell you what causes this - its not anything that is beneficial to the society, its PLAIN OUT SELFISHNESS.
yes, you are going to GIVE to the society more than the services/products you generate. because, EVERYONE is generating services and products, while enjoying benefits of the society. therefore there is no debt to society, your group, being paid by anyone unless they give something EXTRA.
if you dont agree with this, take your baggage and go set up a small cabin atop a mountain and live away from the society.
Whereas a democrat would say, "Stab Bill Gates, take his money and live in his house instead." Republicans would just slaughter your children and bathe in their blood because they are pure evil.
yea. just like what revolutionaries in france in 1789 have said about aristocrats, and that abolishment of privileges and overreaching wealth has become what has paved the way to our MODERN Society, in which you experience all these freedoms ?
yes exactly like that.
distribution of wealth is an important ingredient in a healthy society. REGARDLESS of how, if distribution of wealth is TOO distorted, you cant talk about a healthy society. 5% of the society hoarding 80% of the wealth is no different from aristocracy doing the same thing in 1789 france. the only chance is that, with a little, VERY little chance, like, 0.001%, you may become one of those aristocrats. no really, its the same - in old regime in france you could distinguish yourself in the battlefield or do great service to the crown, and get entitled to considerable nobility. these people were called 'nobles of the sword'.
what is being sold as a 'wonderful world of opportunities' today, is little different then ancient regime in france touting 'those who are worthy could get to be nobles'.
Democrats are socialists who admire the old Soviet state; they want to create a huge government to make everyone equal
you americans really dont have a zit of an idea what socialism, or soviet means. if you'd seen it, you would know that democrats you label as socialists is nowhere near what you portray them to be. you are TOO exaggerating.
democrats are your social democrats. half of europe is running on social democrat governments for the last 50 years, and they are experiencing incomparable wealth and prosperity and freedom compared to the shit of a freedom and wealth you think you experienced in republican or democrat periods in america.
How do you discriminate between free speech and propaganda at all? Counting anti-Chinese and anti-Russian videos as free speech and counting anti-American videos as propaganda might look like an attractive answer to some, but it will not be accepted.
shitload of anti american videos posted by americans are on youtube since 2002.
You never even had a girlfriend I bet because you're to busy being smarter than everyone else. Fuck you stop sending mail just because you can't handle me!
Meanwhile, right wing talk has so dominated radio that
its not that they are more successful - it is because the right wing is SO whacked out that an african american is going to become a president that they just cant keep calm, and the right wing resources fund everything from lunatics to crazy cat ladies to rant about democrats so maybe, MAYBE they can reduce democrat's win chance a bit.
im turkish. 10.000 plus miles away. the picture looks like that, even from here. i can see the desperation and rage in the eyes of conservatives.
its not vexing at all. you need to want to research yourself in order to be able to get anything from it. if it is directly linked to you, you will just take it in the context of the debate and as a counter argument, and automatically assign a lesser credibility value over it regardless of where it is published, and will proceed to think about a counter argument. pointless.
if you became really curious about it, you should research it yourself. this way you'd be unbiased, for it will be out of the context of a debate.
yes there are. because the whole invisible hand thing has become the major concept that entire argument to leave economy to be a total wild west is being based on. 'invisible hand adjusts prices'. it extended to 'invisible hand ensures competition' these days. and some are even extending it to 'invisible hand prevents corruption'. which are, of course, total bullshit, as you can deduce from the fact that in human nature and therefore in societies, there is always corruption in any social construct, and a corporation or any corporation is NOT exempt from this.
therefore stuff like this, and economy classes and courses are ones that build upon the myth of invisible hand. of course, skipping inconvenient facts in the process.
no it isnt. research adam smith's life and views. you'll see that by invisible hand he half means god of hand.
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how about you gather the guts to gather a motherfucking account and post like a REAL person instead of hiding your balls behind anonymous posting ? BEFORE calling others 'pansy' ?
before having ideas, HAVE A PERSONALITY FIRST.
you people REALLY need to be whacked into common sense. and shove your anonymous foot up your own ass first.
just like their idea of economics and business : "let everyone do as they please in business, put no controls" and then rely on god's "invisible hand" to set the market straight. total bullcrap.
so you let people dope like idiots. and someone took an overload of dope, and made the world record for 100 m men's straight 7 seconds. and then 10 seconds later dropped dead. WHAT is going to happen ?
did the athlete break the record, or DOPE broke it ?
what POSSIBLE meaning left in testing human body's limits then ?
taking dope or artificial aid is not 'improving oneself'. its ARTIFICIAL.
its still like the republican view of economics - stupid because it says 'because rules and regulations cant keep up, lets ditch them'.
curiously, the SAME people who defend this never accepts to let go of rules and regulations in other social aspects of life. why not just let go of all rules and regulations, and let mob justice, and circumstantial evidence decide what is right and what is wrong ?
noooo sir. just as we continually develop and make our social rules better for the standards of modern times to get an incomparable level of civilization compared to 10.000 BC conditions, we need to put rules and regulations and improve them as needed in all aspects of life. sports is no exception. if you let everything go, mayhem ensues.
and there is no 'invisible' hand. its a fairy tale.
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isnt there any other vendor out there providing business solutions ? its not like everyone is going to jump into exchange wagon because they couldnt do with google apps. geez.
just see how big microsoft is about matters of freedom related to technical issues and the internet ?
apparently while they were filling the ground at oscon, showing a brave face, their paid cronies were attacking internet freedom in an other front.
what do you microsoft fanbois have to say about this, we really would like to hear.
then fetch that considerable evidence. dont produce arguments out of your butt.
he wants to bolster business, but he wants to kill what made internet so big a field for doing business in - network neutrality, which ensures that the small entrepreneur and the big boy start equal on everything ? at least almost ? and turn the tables for benefit of big buck corporations ?
well, thats quite republican.
its your country. everything is at HYPERinflated prices there. the cost of decent living therefore is stupefying high.
includes everything from food prices to college education. so someone pays 100 k to a college, and expects to be paid enough to pay it out ? from whence does that guaranteed mindset come ? in a free market, you are shelling out $100k to get ahead of others, knowing that adding extra value to yourself will get you ahead, according to MARKET rules, but when you get out, you expect a wage OUTSIDE of the market rules ?
well. hypocrisy.
and im sure to receive a lot of selfish, self-righteous replies to this post from people who talk very sanely and reasonably on other subjects.
never fails. neither they have become the bitch of the industry like the ones in u.s., nor they have gone stupid while trying to lick the boots of the music cartels, but just went simple and efficient.
countries for immigration. why ? with such stupid draconian, boot licking laws as these, graduates in other countries will not be choosing britain either for grad study, or immigration and working.
there britain goes down the drain in terms of brain power. right at the time the entire population average was becoming too old to support the country too.
you gotta love politicians. for a few dollars, they can sink their own country.
software that is. the only people who decide what goes as standards are developers of software. if individual developers and software houses do not like OOXML and make their software accommodate it, it doesnt have a snowball's chance in hell, REGARDLESS of what you chant around. REGARDLESS of who microsoft or any other company bribes, regardless of which country mandates which standard, whichever standard wins the most support from programmers, developers, whomever creates software, will be the winner.
Why should they be forced to? Someone who makes the right choices in life (get an education, not get pregnant at 15, etc...) and becomes successful should now be forced to support those who made the poor choices? One of the reasons we're in this credit/housing mess right now is that we aren't letting people take the punishment for their poor choices. It's easy to take extreme risks when you think the government will always come to bail you out. Keep in mind I'm pointing at everyone from the greedy hedge fund guys on wall street to the hair dresser who buys an overpriced house 'because real estate goes up 20%/year.'
ill tell you why they should be forced to.
because THEY ARE MAKING USE OF THE RESOURCES AND ADVANTAGES OF BEING A SOCIETY
its plainly, flat out, this. mankind is only out of the caves and reaching for the stars because they have developed the ability to be a SOCIETY, and a compassionate, caring one at that. there are many kinds of societies in animal world, like the darwinian hellhole you picture - weak is left to die for the betterment of the herd, strong genetic strain lives and that shit. whereas the monkeys who constituted ancestors to this civilization had developed the habit of caring for EVEN their weak and disabled. (there are bones of early humanoids with disabilities who had lived a long life, which is not possible without the group caring for them). THAT was the thing that allowed the mankind to be able to develop tools, because they were able to play with stuff that is not vital to direct survival.
so here you are, basically in 21st century, proposing a darwinian, survivalist environment in 21st century technological level, to the contrary of what brought us to this state. let me tell you what causes this - its not anything that is beneficial to the society, its PLAIN OUT SELFISHNESS.
yes, you are going to GIVE to the society more than the services/products you generate. because, EVERYONE is generating services and products, while enjoying benefits of the society. therefore there is no debt to society, your group, being paid by anyone unless they give something EXTRA.
if you dont agree with this, take your baggage and go set up a small cabin atop a mountain and live away from the society.
Whereas a democrat would say, "Stab Bill Gates, take his money and live in his house instead." Republicans would just slaughter your children and bathe in their blood because they are pure evil.
yea. just like what revolutionaries in france in 1789 have said about aristocrats, and that abolishment of privileges and overreaching wealth has become what has paved the way to our MODERN Society, in which you experience all these freedoms ?
yes exactly like that.
distribution of wealth is an important ingredient in a healthy society. REGARDLESS of how, if distribution of wealth is TOO distorted, you cant talk about a healthy society. 5% of the society hoarding 80% of the wealth is no different from aristocracy doing the same thing in 1789 france. the only chance is that, with a little, VERY little chance, like, 0.001%, you may become one of those aristocrats. no really, its the same - in old regime in france you could distinguish yourself in the battlefield or do great service to the crown, and get entitled to considerable nobility. these people were called 'nobles of the sword'.
what is being sold as a 'wonderful world of opportunities' today, is little different then ancient regime in france touting 'those who are worthy could get to be nobles'.
Democrats are socialists who admire the old Soviet state; they want to create a huge government to make everyone equal
you americans really dont have a zit of an idea what socialism, or soviet means. if you'd seen it, you would know that democrats you label as socialists is nowhere near what you portray them to be. you are TOO exaggerating.
democrats are your social democrats. half of europe is running on social democrat governments for the last 50 years, and they are experiencing incomparable wealth and prosperity and freedom compared to the shit of a freedom and wealth you think you experienced in republican or democrat periods in america.
How do you discriminate between free speech and propaganda at all? Counting anti-Chinese and anti-Russian videos as free speech and counting anti-American videos as propaganda might look like an attractive answer to some, but it will not be accepted.
shitload of anti american videos posted by americans are on youtube since 2002.
You never even had a girlfriend I bet because you're to busy being smarter than everyone else. Fuck you stop sending mail just because you can't handle me!
HANDLING ME ! YOU CANT DO IT !!!!
this part is the killer
Meanwhile, right wing talk has so dominated radio that
its not that they are more successful - it is because the right wing is SO whacked out that an african american is going to become a president that they just cant keep calm, and the right wing resources fund everything from lunatics to crazy cat ladies to rant about democrats so maybe, MAYBE they can reduce democrat's win chance a bit.
im turkish. 10.000 plus miles away. the picture looks like that, even from here. i can see the desperation and rage in the eyes of conservatives.
its comedy seems to be FAR more high quality and audience more elite.
its not 'your' state of mind. its the general behaviour inclination of people when debating.
its not vexing at all. you need to want to research yourself in order to be able to get anything from it. if it is directly linked to you, you will just take it in the context of the debate and as a counter argument, and automatically assign a lesser credibility value over it regardless of where it is published, and will proceed to think about a counter argument. pointless.
if you became really curious about it, you should research it yourself. this way you'd be unbiased, for it will be out of the context of a debate.
of course it REFERS to adam smith, because it is about the invisible hand 'metaphor'.
please dont sweat it. research adam smith itself. thats all im going to say.
yes there are. because the whole invisible hand thing has become the major concept that entire argument to leave economy to be a total wild west is being based on. 'invisible hand adjusts prices'. it extended to 'invisible hand ensures competition' these days. and some are even extending it to 'invisible hand prevents corruption'. which are, of course, total bullshit, as you can deduce from the fact that in human nature and therefore in societies, there is always corruption in any social construct, and a corporation or any corporation is NOT exempt from this.
therefore stuff like this, and economy classes and courses are ones that build upon the myth of invisible hand. of course, skipping inconvenient facts in the process.
just research adam smith.
i asked HIM (or her) to post with an identity. not another redneck to come to chant the same tune.
sounds more like the fascist party to me.
you brits need to take matters into your own hands.
just research adam smith, life and times. step out of boundaries of econ 101
no it isnt. research adam smith's life and views. you'll see that by invisible hand he half means god of hand.
how about you gather the guts to gather a motherfucking account and post like a REAL person instead of hiding your balls behind anonymous posting ? BEFORE calling others 'pansy' ?
before having ideas, HAVE A PERSONALITY FIRST.
you people REALLY need to be whacked into common sense. and shove your anonymous foot up your own ass first.
just like their idea of economics and business : "let everyone do as they please in business, put no controls" and then rely on god's "invisible hand" to set the market straight. total bullcrap.
so you let people dope like idiots. and someone took an overload of dope, and made the world record for 100 m men's straight 7 seconds. and then 10 seconds later dropped dead. WHAT is going to happen ?
did the athlete break the record, or DOPE broke it ?
what POSSIBLE meaning left in testing human body's limits then ?
taking dope or artificial aid is not 'improving oneself'. its ARTIFICIAL.
its still like the republican view of economics - stupid because it says 'because rules and regulations cant keep up, lets ditch them'.
curiously, the SAME people who defend this never accepts to let go of rules and regulations in other social aspects of life. why not just let go of all rules and regulations, and let mob justice, and circumstantial evidence decide what is right and what is wrong ?
noooo sir. just as we continually develop and make our social rules better for the standards of modern times to get an incomparable level of civilization compared to 10.000 BC conditions, we need to put rules and regulations and improve them as needed in all aspects of life. sports is no exception. if you let everything go, mayhem ensues.
and there is no 'invisible' hand. its a fairy tale.