first, apparently you have no idea that how much those 'inconsequential' settings affect what you see on the screen
second yes, we use pcs to do stuff more than just 'arranging our mp3s', 'shuffling our photo albums', 'typing a document' and 'surfing the internet'. that includes gaming, one of the biggest entertainment of 21st century.
radeon 4850 from the new series. or if you are extremely limited with power, go with 3850 from a generation earlier. these are 55 nm chips, that are very easy on power consumption and heating.
- NO drm shit to slow down the computer
- No bloating of the system with embedded browsers, players or other shit
- Modular structure that only installs or loads stuff that is absolutely necessary
- No 2342532523 different versions that only came to being due to shit from the marketing department
- No 'we could do it, but we wont give some features to old oses to force you to go up to 7' thing, like the dx10 flop in vista
- NO 'win 7 certified' logo on computers that cant run win 7.
- Less chair throwing
yea. who will protect you from predation of big corporations when you dont have the government to 'meddle' ? government was there, regulations were in place, yet still mortgage crisis have put not only u.s. but entire world into crisis and recession. there are more outrageous stuff. a few companies in california started to implant their workers with rfid chips last year, until california senate put an end to it. companies were citing 'security' concerns. who's gonna protect you from such stuff ?
Ray Adams is continuing that project. it works great for auto fan speeds. you can even totally ditch catalyst control center and just use ati tray tools.
tfa says 1 4870 is strong enough to keep up with 280 under many circumstances. and its priced at $300. thats a good price. i guess 4870x2 will be what, $450 ?
However, playing with this early sample of 4870 X2 is a vivid reminder that we don't make these choices in a vacuum. The reality is that a single Radeon HD 4870 GPU is nearly fast enough to keep pace with the GeForce GTX 280. Even if you're running a game that lacks a driver profile or simply doesn't scale well with more than one GPU, the 4870 X2 ought to perform awfully well. And when it does get both GPUs going, as our results show, it's by far the fastest single video card we've ever tested. If this is how AMD rolls, it's hard to complain.
i kinda tend to see the modern amenities contemporary civilization affords (and can afford) to provide its citizens as rights. at least, on basis of having the right to enjoy.
then dont fuckin make use of the socialist retirement, minimum wage, weekly working hours, weekly holidays, yearly vacation days concepts. let go of those rights.
calm people do not resort to insults and cusses every 1.5 sentence, spreading shit out of their mouth instead of carefully worded arguments.
those people do not 'invest' those years of education into themselves out of charity. they invest it in themselves in order to increase their market value in order to attain a higher life standard, and rarely care for any other person than their immediate family. it is a selfish act in itself. they didnt ask me which field to choose while they were investing in their education to raise their life standard, and its noone's responsibility if after that much education, their field of expertise is in low demand. its not as if they were going to do any public service to people by working free of charge or minimum wage for any period or whatnot. or did they even care what position that others less fortunate were in at any given point, save a few philosophical debates in dimly lit dorm rooms.
i have zero sympathy for any of them. for, i once was one of them, getting educated in a top university to be employed in top positions in any fortune 100 company. dont serve me the bullshit that is 'for the benefit of the public'. its all done in self interest.
You were claiming that education is "no effort". Now you are pretending that you meant something else.
that 'no effort' meant meaningful effort after graduation. my first language is not english.
You are an idiot. The reason capitalization exists is to make it easier for whomever you writing for to read what you write! And this is an exemplification of a truly moronic attitude you exhibit here, a self-centered narcissist whose entire life-style depends on offloading the work he is supposed to be doing onto others and then trying to profit from it. You are imparting words? None of what you've been blabbering on has been "imparted" anywhere, nor have you described any "ideas". In fact you are just another societal parasite whose whole purpose of life is to abuse others. I should have figured it out from your idolizing of anything businesses do and whining about anything people do to better themselves.
This discussion is over. Go "impart" your words on someone who is willing to put up with your stupidity.
calm down a moment and check what you have typed in this block. feel the irony with what you are saying and how you are speaking. check how you are using curses and insults instead of logic to prove your point. one should learn to act civil in a debate before commencing to defend any viewpoint.
granted there are still professions that need a scholastic education. but then again, even medicine benefits from reeducation after graduation, and they have to.
if enough regulatory mechanisms were in place to ensure that people who got reeducated are proficient enough, yea, i would trust them.
you still do not get it do you. i, for one, am in a guild that hops from game to game since 2003 with more or less the same entourage i said. these are not random gamers you met in some random game anymore. they are more like friends of the sort.
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im too still running a single 3870 and not feeling the tiniest bit of need to change it.
first, apparently you have no idea that how much those 'inconsequential' settings affect what you see on the screen
second yes, we use pcs to do stuff more than just 'arranging our mp3s', 'shuffling our photo albums', 'typing a document' and 'surfing the internet'. that includes gaming, one of the biggest entertainment of 21st century.
they stopped little short of stamping people's butts with Vista Certified stickers. so go figure.
very probably be same with the 3870x2 thingy. should be around 200 cheaper than 280. at least early reviews a few weeks ago were saying that.
radeon 4850 from the new series. or if you are extremely limited with power, go with 3850 from a generation earlier. these are 55 nm chips, that are very easy on power consumption and heating.
- NO drm shit to slow down the computer
...
- No bloating of the system with embedded browsers, players or other shit
- Modular structure that only installs or loads stuff that is absolutely necessary
- No 2342532523 different versions that only came to being due to shit from the marketing department
- No 'we could do it, but we wont give some features to old oses to force you to go up to 7' thing, like the dx10 flop in vista
- NO 'win 7 certified' logo on computers that cant run win 7.
- Less chair throwing
that should get you going
a $1500 mac is not enough to do the gaming that a $400 card equipped pc does. thats why.
yea. who will protect you from predation of big corporations when you dont have the government to 'meddle' ? government was there, regulations were in place, yet still mortgage crisis have put not only u.s. but entire world into crisis and recession. there are more outrageous stuff. a few companies in california started to implant their workers with rfid chips last year, until california senate put an end to it. companies were citing 'security' concerns. who's gonna protect you from such stuff ?
very low power consumption, low price, and disproportionally high power. you can even x2 them and get a very decent gpu power.
price was for single 4870 (not x2). its listed at the bottom of the fa as advertisement.
Ray Adams is continuing that project. it works great for auto fan speeds. you can even totally ditch catalyst control center and just use ati tray tools.
thats one generation behind. 3870 is its counterpart, and beats it in terms of noise level and energy consumption (hence heat). this is 4870.
tfa says 1 4870 is strong enough to keep up with 280 under many circumstances. and its priced at $300. thats a good price. i guess 4870x2 will be what, $450 ?
However, playing with this early sample of 4870 X2 is a vivid reminder that we don't make these choices in a vacuum. The reality is that a single Radeon HD 4870 GPU is nearly fast enough to keep pace with the GeForce GTX 280. Even if you're running a game that lacks a driver profile or simply doesn't scale well with more than one GPU, the 4870 X2 ought to perform awfully well. And when it does get both GPUs going, as our results show, it's by far the fastest single video card we've ever tested. If this is how AMD rolls, it's hard to complain.
thats good news for gamers' wallets.
So good that there is no reason to choose the 30 cm long humongous and expensive 280 over cheaper 4870x2. what do you think ?
yea. and be sure that you would do well in such an environment.
i kinda tend to see the modern amenities contemporary civilization affords (and can afford) to provide its citizens as rights. at least, on basis of having the right to enjoy.
i would reply, if you werent trying to make fun of it.
replace rights with perks then. put whatever you want to put in.
then dont fuckin make use of the socialist retirement, minimum wage, weekly working hours, weekly holidays, yearly vacation days concepts. let go of those rights.
calm people do not resort to insults and cusses every 1.5 sentence, spreading shit out of their mouth instead of carefully worded arguments.
those people do not 'invest' those years of education into themselves out of charity. they invest it in themselves in order to increase their market value in order to attain a higher life standard, and rarely care for any other person than their immediate family. it is a selfish act in itself. they didnt ask me which field to choose while they were investing in their education to raise their life standard, and its noone's responsibility if after that much education, their field of expertise is in low demand. its not as if they were going to do any public service to people by working free of charge or minimum wage for any period or whatnot. or did they even care what position that others less fortunate were in at any given point, save a few philosophical debates in dimly lit dorm rooms.
i have zero sympathy for any of them. for, i once was one of them, getting educated in a top university to be employed in top positions in any fortune 100 company. dont serve me the bullshit that is 'for the benefit of the public'. its all done in self interest.
You were claiming that education is "no effort". Now you are pretending that you meant something else.
that 'no effort' meant meaningful effort after graduation. my first language is not english.
You are an idiot. The reason capitalization exists is to make it easier for whomever you writing for to read what you write! And this is an exemplification of a truly moronic attitude you exhibit here, a self-centered narcissist whose entire life-style depends on offloading the work he is supposed to be doing onto others and then trying to profit from it. You are imparting words? None of what you've been blabbering on has been "imparted" anywhere, nor have you described any "ideas". In fact you are just another societal parasite whose whole purpose of life is to abuse others. I should have figured it out from your idolizing of anything businesses do and whining about anything people do to better themselves. This discussion is over. Go "impart" your words on someone who is willing to put up with your stupidity.
calm down a moment and check what you have typed in this block. feel the irony with what you are saying and how you are speaking. check how you are using curses and insults instead of logic to prove your point. one should learn to act civil in a debate before commencing to defend any viewpoint.
we are a democratic guild. there are no leaders. everything gets voted online or in-game according to proper procedure.
granted there are still professions that need a scholastic education. but then again, even medicine benefits from reeducation after graduation, and they have to.
if enough regulatory mechanisms were in place to ensure that people who got reeducated are proficient enough, yea, i would trust them.
you still do not get it do you. i, for one, am in a guild that hops from game to game since 2003 with more or less the same entourage i said. these are not random gamers you met in some random game anymore. they are more like friends of the sort.