like some neighbor suspecting that you are a pedophile and taking up the phone to snitch you, or some woman coming up and claiming that you raped her, out of the blue.
in either case, you get harassed. in the latter case, you get arrested before being harassed, even without any evidence.
and you lose. nazi experience is one of the most important lessons this civilization has learned. stupid bambinos jumping on memes like godwin's 'law' do not reduce the importance of the lesson. fuck godwin, fuck illiterate bambinos.
Please explain why pulling a random quote out of the Koran is any more 'relevant' then someone doing the same thing to your holy book? there is this difference ; we know that any version of bible was written and edited by men, heavily so, and if you see any uncivil orders you can just attribute them to human error and discard. there exist no controversy in regard to bible's history of being written by men, not even catholic church denies that, first major council happening in AD 400 or so to decide 4 major bible versions, and edit them appropriately. in islam, koran is said to be unchanged word of god, never edited, never changed, so whatever contained in it is undeniable, impossible to ignore for any muslim. additionally, koran states many times that it is a very clear book for anyone to understand, regardless of who they are or how learned they are, therefore you cant propose that the meaning that is apparent from the first look is not valid. if something is there, it is ordered directly by god, according to islam. thats the difference.
Why? I can't see this as anything other than a blatantly racist statement. ancient middle east, and to an extent near east (greece, anatolia) history is the history of ancient civilizations, where almost more than half of what we know and practice today as world heritage was conceived. thats why.
modern day shitheaded witch hunt. in middle ages, it was 'heresy' word that ensured your doom, now its just 'suspicion' of pedophile that can doom your life. dont like a neighbor ? snitch him for being a pedophile.
after resigning from ceo post. now he is using it to spread bullsh#t instead. 'gpl ensures noone can improve the software' is it why there are sh@tload of excellent software that are now running almost half of the web ? please, bill, cut the crap, at least in retirement. get real.
So conquest of wandering nomads is ok? you got what i meant. if you didnt, let me explain plainly ; native american history is incomparable to ancient middle east history when concerning rights of ownership to a piece of land.
And this is relevant to the present day situation because....? if you havent read and took time to asses what i wrote, i cant go over explaining everything again and again, apologies.
Why did you draw the conclusion that my argument was only directed at the Jews? you are debating by questions i presume. regardless of who your argument was directed at, it justifies any and all occupation.
heritage. just as almost third of the koran is borrowed from christianity, but it explicitly orders muslims to attack christians and jews in maida surah 9/29.
Native american history and ancient middle east history can not be compared. native american history is a history of migrations, whereas ancient middle east history is a history of cultural changes. up until sea people's invasion, or even after that, until 1000 BC, the effect of migrations into this zone is not great. therefore you can easily trace many cultures that existed long before that and way further than the invasions, because what happened was actually altering of existing cultures and melting of invaders into the existing culture. therefore, whatever proto-jew nomadic community were there around caanan at the time of abraham, are just a bastardization of the existing community there, just an arm of it, nothing else. therefore their ancestors were there long before that. not only due to dynamics of the region, but also the hardship of migration and long range travel, at those ages. the voyage by sea from peloponnessos (southern greece) to georgia (E black sea) was SO big a feat even by 800 BC standards that, we have the whole legend of iason and the golden fleece. this should give an idea why proto jews were there as nomadic tribes already, LONG before 1800 BC.
Don't get me wrong -- I don't pretend to have a solution for the Middle East either -- but this idea that a racial/religious group has a "right" to some land based on the fact that they controlled it two millennia ago (the Jews) or even a few decades ago (the Palestinians) is a pretty thin argument. quite apparently you dont know the history of the region. jews were there more than 2 millenia ago, they controlled it aroun 500 years, AND they have been living in those lands under other empires' sovereignty since then. they have never been a negligible population in caanan. just to give you an idea, during 1920-1960, just the number of jews killed by muslim extremists is around 6000 people, each have names and dates of their murder. so, they werent never 'out' of that lands.
The World doesn't owe you a damn thing just because your parents, grandparents, great-grandparents or ancient-ancestors-living-in-the-time-of-Julius-Ceaser got a raw deal. with your argument you could totally justify israeli occupation of palestinian lands - nobody owes any palestinian anything because early muslim empire arabs were able to take those lands from byzantine empire, but then lost it.
do you know that the early christian leaders were in conflict with jews, and satanized them ? do you know that the 4 major versions of bible were edited and chosen in council of nicea around 400 ad ? they are not reliable books. old testament, new testament, no kind of christian text can hold any weight, because they were written by the extreme bias early christians had against jews, due to the pains of a fledling religion had with the established one. you have to go check babylonian and egyptian records. they are reliable. jews were there long before egyptians brought them in as slaves. actually their nomadic existence goes way back than 1800 BC. long before moses brought them out of slavery in egypt to their lands in caanan back again. that happened around 1300 BC.
i dont argue that hotmail has caused much trouble and business disruption, i say it. i experienced it first hand. and in regard to your argument that says google is as bad as microsoft, thousands of customers, partners, business partners, contractors they screwed since 1980s would staunchly disagree.
I'm not sure if this is irony or not, but I'll bite. Google _do_ doom thousands of estore owners on regular basis, through arbitrary changes to ranking algorithm with no information, no communication and no response to complaints. People go bankrupt over this. Read any forum relevant for this and you'll see massive amounts of pain (and no, this is not about ranking spammers). microsoft has been doing that even before google was there, with its own search engines, browsers, mail services. hotmail have caused many web hosting businesses clients, and clients their web sites, just because of the arbitrary spam filtering shit they have been employing.
additionally changing search algorithm and pulling the plug on your OWN service after totally locking in estore owners are two different things.
And Google was the _first_ of the major sites to pull the plug on a DRM licensing server (Google Video) rendering content users had bought useless. one for google. how many for microsoft ?
it was google which pulled the plug on bCentral ecommerce service and doomed thousands of estore owners. it was google which pulled the plug on their music service and shoved subscriptions of paying customers up their #sses. it was google which bribed standards boards in various countries to push their closed standard as an open standard. it is google which is being hammered by a class action lawsuit as of now because they fradulently named many hardware as vista capable despite they were not, suprisingly frankly and openly conspiring through emails records on their corporate network, which has been procured through court order and came to the light of day. are those enough, or do i need to go way back towards 1980s ?
PAYING customers to boot too !! last shit they pulled was pulling the plug on bCentral ecommerce service they were running, many of you who are not affiliated with ecommerce industry or web development havent probably heard it. they gave the customers only 1 month's notice to pack up their stores and leave or migrate to the ecommerce service they dumped the customers on, which didnt have enough experience with oscommerce framework they were planning to move everybody on, causing a lot of horrible experience for the store owners and lost sales. a lot of people couldnt pack up their 2000+ product, thousands of customer data containing stores in sufficient time if they wanted to move, hell, even many of the stores who let the new contractor to do their migration were messed up.
this is the microsoft way. if you havent learned it up to this date, you are either a fanboi or were living in a cave.
just read how you post, just remember how you were talking 2 posts before, and how you are talking now. no change in my attitude, but huge, 180 degree change in the manner and way you talk. and who are you making that post to anyways ? are you talking to an audience to draw their support ? trying to take measures in case i reply to your post with 'So Cheers all; I'm going to leave things here, but expect some form of rhetoric from this unity100 character in response to this post' and all ?
the stability of one's character is understood from the stability of their conduct. talking one way, one manner for 10-15 posts and then going 180 degrees is no stability at all. your last post even makes one think there are two persons using that nick you are posting under. you came from doing argumentation by making historic references to personal assaults and insults. is this what you learned on your 'spiritual way' ? great way of the karma, you have there.
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like some neighbor suspecting that you are a pedophile and taking up the phone to snitch you, or some woman coming up and claiming that you raped her, out of the blue.
in either case, you get harassed. in the latter case, you get arrested before being harassed, even without any evidence.
thats your probable cause.
and you lose. nazi experience is one of the most important lessons this civilization has learned. stupid bambinos jumping on memes like godwin's 'law' do not reduce the importance of the lesson. fuck godwin, fuck illiterate bambinos.
it says SUSPECTED pedophiles, moron. anyone can be a suspect. if i pick up the phone and snitch you for no reason, you are a suspect too.
its a pain to provide technical support for even uninfected computers, and you are telling us to help people clean their infected computers.
relevance please.
modern day shitheaded witch hunt. in middle ages, it was 'heresy' word that ensured your doom, now its just 'suspicion' of pedophile that can doom your life. dont like a neighbor ? snitch him for being a pedophile.
no thanks. save your shit, just for once.
why should people care if some greedy bastard becomes richest man or not ? people are not born to make you rich, you know.
after resigning from ceo post. now he is using it to spread bullsh#t instead. 'gpl ensures noone can improve the software' is it why there are sh@tload of excellent software that are now running almost half of the web ? please, bill, cut the crap, at least in retirement. get real.
why are you debating history if you do not care.
heritage. just as almost third of the koran is borrowed from christianity, but it explicitly orders muslims to attack christians and jews in maida surah 9/29.
do you know that the early christian leaders were in conflict with jews, and satanized them ? do you know that the 4 major versions of bible were edited and chosen in council of nicea around 400 ad ? they are not reliable books. old testament, new testament, no kind of christian text can hold any weight, because they were written by the extreme bias early christians had against jews, due to the pains of a fledling religion had with the established one. you have to go check babylonian and egyptian records. they are reliable. jews were there long before egyptians brought them in as slaves. actually their nomadic existence goes way back than 1800 BC. long before moses brought them out of slavery in egypt to their lands in caanan back again. that happened around 1300 BC.
jews were there 1400 years before any arab appeared on the history scene. dipshit. study some history. and im not jewish.
they were full of shit.
i dont argue that hotmail has caused much trouble and business disruption, i say it. i experienced it first hand. and in regard to your argument that says google is as bad as microsoft, thousands of customers, partners, business partners, contractors they screwed since 1980s would staunchly disagree.
additionally changing search algorithm and pulling the plug on your OWN service after totally locking in estore owners are two different things. And Google was the _first_ of the major sites to pull the plug on a DRM licensing server (Google Video) rendering content users had bought useless. one for google. how many for microsoft ?
it was google which pulled the plug on bCentral ecommerce service and doomed thousands of estore owners. it was google which pulled the plug on their music service and shoved subscriptions of paying customers up their #sses. it was google which bribed standards boards in various countries to push their closed standard as an open standard. it is google which is being hammered by a class action lawsuit as of now because they fradulently named many hardware as vista capable despite they were not, suprisingly frankly and openly conspiring through emails records on their corporate network, which has been procured through court order and came to the light of day. are those enough, or do i need to go way back towards 1980s ?
dont click.
PAYING customers to boot too !! last shit they pulled was pulling the plug on bCentral ecommerce service they were running, many of you who are not affiliated with ecommerce industry or web development havent probably heard it. they gave the customers only 1 month's notice to pack up their stores and leave or migrate to the ecommerce service they dumped the customers on, which didnt have enough experience with oscommerce framework they were planning to move everybody on, causing a lot of horrible experience for the store owners and lost sales. a lot of people couldnt pack up their 2000+ product, thousands of customer data containing stores in sufficient time if they wanted to move, hell, even many of the stores who let the new contractor to do their migration were messed up.
this is the microsoft way. if you havent learned it up to this date, you are either a fanboi or were living in a cave.
just read how you post, just remember how you were talking 2 posts before, and how you are talking now. no change in my attitude, but huge, 180 degree change in the manner and way you talk. and who are you making that post to anyways ? are you talking to an audience to draw their support ? trying to take measures in case i reply to your post with 'So Cheers all; I'm going to leave things here, but expect some form of rhetoric from this unity100 character in response to this post' and all ?
the stability of one's character is understood from the stability of their conduct. talking one way, one manner for 10-15 posts and then going 180 degrees is no stability at all. your last post even makes one think there are two persons using that nick you are posting under. you came from doing argumentation by making historic references to personal assaults and insults. is this what you learned on your 'spiritual way' ? great way of the karma, you have there.
go take your shower lad. you need it.