now, the point is, i moved in this neighborhood when i was 4.5, and i grew up playing around in here, there and right next to that apartment block, where one of my family's long time friends and their son who is a long time friend (since we were born) live.
i can assure you that there are almost nothing that will affect the entire building changed there in the last 25 years.
cell tower is comfortably far from me. so no need to move. but, my friend's parents have started to feel ill and observed irregularities after tower was erected at next building, and they moved out to another city soon after. they are fine now.
unfortunately i cant trust statistics, law, courts, common belief or anything else to work out their common slow mechanics, that is a matter of life and death. Apparently more so for other people around here too, noone is accepting any cell towers in any place near them. So, im safe as far as im concerned.
It's impossible for that cell mast to have caused cancer in 7 people within one year, man theres no impossible. anything impossible becomes the first occurrence of a possible when they go real. building, environment, area everything has been checked due to the fact that the issue has been taken to court.
The problem with this story is that it is completely anecdotal. How many would have come down with cancer if the tower had not been built, given their ages, occupations, and prior medical histories? Even if one would have expected fewer than 7 new cases based on purely statistical grounds, what would be the probability of 7 new cases occurring through random chance instead of, say, 4? one person per building around per 5-6 years. as i said before, you probably didnt read, the buildings and demographic from occupation to age and habits in this 10-15 000 population area are almost identical. 7 people dying from cancer in a year in the same building is phenomenonal. there are no "random chance" occurences recorded in this area a prior. whence do i know ? because this has been the talk of whole city for a long while.
apartment complexes here occupy rather a larger area than common buildings in u.s. and europe. for example the one i live in is 500 m2. from what i remember (that building is not in los from here, but next to it is an apartment complex one of my friends live, so i saw it from there) the antenna is put on close to one corner of the building.
forgot to add, in the next building, in which my friend live, 2 people died from cancer in that same year in addition to the ones in the tower building.
no you dont get it still. i understand it might be rather hard to imagine for someone not living here to think some neighborhood like that is possible.
most of the buildings were built by the same contractors back then, so they are if not identical in plans, identical in materials, manner of construction and such. and, back then, stuff like asbestos and other additive materials were unimaginable here due to cost. most basic stuff is used - plain concrete which is done with beach sand (beach close by), iron/steel bars that are still used today in the same fashion and paint, which is used still since that times.
there are no changing circumstances in that neighborhood, yet alone that building except the cell tower. therefore i conclude that being the cause.
additionally NO apartment complex herearound is letting anyone put up cell towers anywhere due to that incident, leave aside their own building - they dont even let anyone set up anything 2-3 buildings away.
age disposition, income disposition, their employment (current and prior if retired), their occupations of daily life, lifestyle, what they eat, what they not, what they do in free time, when they get up when they go to bed are almost identical to each other. im talking about a neighborhood of 10-20.000 people living in almost identical apartment complexes that were built exactly in the same 5 year period in the past.
there are no occurences of 7 people suddenly dying from cancer in a year in none of them, but this.
Also what was the age of the appartment building? is it possible they had asbestos in the roof? They could have easily disturbed the asbestos, and caused it to break up in the air and that could have caused the cancer. no asbestos - plain concrete, steel and commonly used paint. its of the standard and quality buildings that were done in the same era, and these kind of buildings occasionally go into renovation. if so, it should happen somewhere else too.
or any other construction also what kind of cancer did they die of? did they all die of similar cancers? or did they die of different cancers? no other construction. various.
[quote]How many people died of cancer the year before? [/quote]
none
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The prior decade?
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probably at most 5, due to age.
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How old were the residents?
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young, old mixed.
[quote]Did any of the residents work in the same place?
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none of them.
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Were there any changes in the quality of water reaching the apartments?
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no. this is a high quality neighborhood with considerably good income. quality of life is good.
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Were there any renovations in the building? Any maintenance or pest control?
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no. for the latter, people around here do not like that kind of thing - also pest issue is something that is nearly nonexistent.
the administration (chosen from residents by residents in the building) decided to let a gsm operator put up a cell tower on top of their building in order to provide income for the apartment complex.
within 1 year, 7 residents of the apartment who had no prior conditions died of cancer, including the chosen administrators of the building who spearheaded the move.
For starters, ALL of the countries in africa have very different moral values than west. In many countries there is no concept of "obscenity" and sex is not a taboo. They dont even care if people go around naked in many parts.
Such a filter is plainly and blatantly an imposition of moral values - nothing else. Noone has the right to do it.
Hell, sure better not at&crap. They have been trying every kind of barely legal trick to monopolize and control entire united states's information for over 1.5 years now.
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after this charade i dont know what to think or say
thats what it is. ah, and harmful to their paid administrative counterparts.
You jail him/her, and go on with your life. thats whats gonna happen with wikipedia.
the other related fields that goes into sysadmining from time to time.
thank us, you and others for making things work as they should.
too fishy
.... read articles about open source such as 'Open Source Provider Sees Sales Doubling After Moving Solutions to the Windows Platform.'"
concept of heat/sound/anything isolation, leave aside asbestos was an extreme luxury and out of context at the time those buildings were built.
i dont have info about the later years, since my friend's parents moved out from there.
you too
now, the point is, i moved in this neighborhood when i was 4.5, and i grew up playing around in here, there and right next to that apartment block, where one of my family's long time friends and their son who is a long time friend (since we were born) live.
i can assure you that there are almost nothing that will affect the entire building changed there in the last 25 years.
cell tower is comfortably far from me. so no need to move. but, my friend's parents have started to feel ill and observed irregularities after tower was erected at next building, and they moved out to another city soon after. they are fine now.
unfortunately i cant trust statistics, law, courts, common belief or anything else to work out their common slow mechanics, that is a matter of life and death. Apparently more so for other people around here too, noone is accepting any cell towers in any place near them. So, im safe as far as im concerned.
yes im blowing smoke.
apartment complexes here occupy rather a larger area than common buildings in u.s. and europe. for example the one i live in is 500 m2. from what i remember (that building is not in los from here, but next to it is an apartment complex one of my friends live, so i saw it from there) the antenna is put on close to one corner of the building.
forgot to add, in the next building, in which my friend live, 2 people died from cancer in that same year in addition to the ones in the tower building.
no you dont get it still. i understand it might be rather hard to imagine for someone not living here to think some neighborhood like that is possible.
most of the buildings were built by the same contractors back then, so they are if not identical in plans, identical in materials, manner of construction and such. and, back then, stuff like asbestos and other additive materials were unimaginable here due to cost. most basic stuff is used - plain concrete which is done with beach sand (beach close by), iron/steel bars that are still used today in the same fashion and paint, which is used still since that times.
there are no changing circumstances in that neighborhood, yet alone that building except the cell tower. therefore i conclude that being the cause.
additionally NO apartment complex herearound is letting anyone put up cell towers anywhere due to that incident, leave aside their own building - they dont even let anyone set up anything 2-3 buildings away.
the entire neighborhood is statistic in itself.
age disposition, income disposition, their employment (current and prior if retired), their occupations of daily life, lifestyle, what they eat, what they not, what they do in free time, when they get up when they go to bed are almost identical to each other. im talking about a neighborhood of 10-20.000 people living in almost identical apartment complexes that were built exactly in the same 5 year period in the past.
there are no occurences of 7 people suddenly dying from cancer in a year in none of them, but this.
yay.
"anyway" - you really tied it up despite there being nothing to support a counter argument.
well, heavens help them.
[quote]How many people died of cancer the year before? [/quote] none [quote] The prior decade? [/quote] probably at most 5, due to age. [quote] How old were the residents? [/quote] young, old mixed. [quote]Did any of the residents work in the same place? [/quote] none of them. [quote] Were there any changes in the quality of water reaching the apartments? [/quote] no. this is a high quality neighborhood with considerably good income. quality of life is good. [quote] Were there any renovations in the building? Any maintenance or pest control? [/quote] no. for the latter, people around here do not like that kind of thing - also pest issue is something that is nearly nonexistent.
from where i live.
the administration (chosen from residents by residents in the building) decided to let a gsm operator put up a cell tower on top of their building in order to provide income for the apartment complex.
within 1 year, 7 residents of the apartment who had no prior conditions died of cancer, including the chosen administrators of the building who spearheaded the move.
For starters, ALL of the countries in africa have very different moral values than west. In many countries there is no concept of "obscenity" and sex is not a taboo. They dont even care if people go around naked in many parts.
Such a filter is plainly and blatantly an imposition of moral values - nothing else. Noone has the right to do it.
most of the tv are crap and reruns anyway.
Hell, sure better not at&crap. They have been trying every kind of barely legal trick to monopolize and control entire united states's information for over 1.5 years now.