come on lets get real. theres a tad bit of silliness in it about einstein being a fraud, but you, as well as i, very well know that the other parts of that about tesla are damn true.
Really ? After ALL they did to consumers, (rootkits and other crap) gamers, (swg anyone ?), other small shitty stunts like this one, one would think that they would come to their senses by now.
At this rate, sony is going to be the first mega corp to bite the dust out of arrogance.
i re-read your post, and it now seems more like "i like to live the life carpe diem, in fullest experiencing new things and excitements".
this is a business issue. you cant go "carpe diem" or "experience new stuff" in that matter, because this is not an "experience" - clients' cash and future is involved in it.
i divide my position against microsoft to 2 in these matters.
in general, desktop, mail etc and popular-wise, i see microsoft with contempt, because their sony-ish behaviour and cutthroat/dirty competition logic that is so reminiscent of 80es.
web development-wise, professionally, i stay away from microsoft based on one single fact - their reliability record is crap.
web development clients rarely need to get support for using their stuff. websites are built to serve their needs by simple user-side procedures and interfaces. it is not like a local enterprise office solution, or a desktop in a networking environment that many possibilities and complexities occur.
and many of those sites will be either on a dedicated server, very probably tended by the datacenter they are housed in, or on a shared web host, supported by the web hosting provider, so microsoft will never go into equation.
but, microsoft will go into equation totally when they decide to pull a trick to grab more market share or oust some competitor or any of the similar tricks they pulled in the past. all users of that infrastructure will be in trouble then.
its so absurd. after the novell incident i should not need to tell all these to anybody. its bright as day. novell people were aghast at the results of what they did, and how microsoft twisted their little trust exchange into some self serving deviation of legal maneuvering.
its about living life to the fullest, you can take risks and "try out new things".
you cant throw small businesses or heck, even million dollar enterprises at risk for "trying out new stuff" "just not to be prejudice-driven".
still you are talking as if this is not microsoft but some other company. microsoft is famous for screwing up whoever it works with, be it partner or communities. remember novell deal, remember linux ? see how microsoft forces (from their point of view) gamer crowd to upgrade to vista by making it able to run dx10 and xp not ? should i count more examples ?
we are not talking about "one needs to take risks in business" situation, which is kinda like going ipo and investing.
this is a matter of reliability. especially businesses thriving on the web have their lifeline in their web presence. risking that is a no-enterpreneurship situation.
and to clarify - we are not dismissing a product - we are dismissing a company, based on their prior record.
would you go buy from the same department store if the department store continually screwed you over ?
setting up a client in a framework/infrastructure means this client will be doing all his/her/their business on that framework/infrastructure, building and expanding on that, adapting to that, basically living on that.
and when the company that provides that platform pulls the plug or pulls a crap with that platform's users, client and his business is in trouble. this had happened before with many "new experiences and products", and many people had gone through arduous restructuring and readaptation in order to go on with their business on a new platform.
And apologies, but microsoft is not some company that has a great reliability record.
ill set up as many clients as i can on open/free platforms as i did before. because this is their BUSINESS, they are making a living on that, and that cant be risked.
Id rather set up shop for doing development business for 386DX33 webservers than jump ship on any web related stuff microsoft puts out.
so many times we are having to bail out refugee clients running away from microsoft stuff on the web that its not funny anymore. (i wont mention names)
i wouldnt want to imagine a beowulf cluster of what microsoft would put out. and i dont want to be in an "in a microsoft internet microsoft DEVELOPS YOU !" situation.
how one is supposed to develop an algorithm without a solid understanding of programming ? you cant make it if you have reduced programming emphasis i think.
'"Our artists and labels look forward to working with the Internet radio industry -- large and small, commercial and noncommercial -- so that together we can ensure it succeeds as a place where great music is available to music lovers of all genres,"
our leash holders at riaa member companies are looking forward to suck the internet radio dry, while continuing to screw artists over over royalties - so that together we can ensure that our place as the leeches of the creative industries will continue unabashed.
In turkey, only licensed people can BUY guns for having them in their homes, and to acquire a license for this is hard.
Acquiring a license for CARRYING a gun, is HELL.
as a result, gun ownership is at very low levels compared to usa.
but, as in all countries, criminals have no problems about acquiring any type of small arms. they cant acquire semi automatics, automatics only, as there is terrorism threat in turkey and state pays much attention to this. but, small arms and rifles can be acquired quite easily.
and EVEN if you have a gun to defend yourself, as once a police officer had put it, when he was investigating a burglary at my house "If you have a gun, and see a burglar, shoot it towards the ceiling, shoot it towards the ground, shoot it away from him. if he EVER gets harmed, injured, or heck, even dead, you will serve at least 2 years, while he will get out in 2 months. Its no use having a gun, only maybe if you can scare him by showing it to him, and then they are not scared these days".
so, in turkey, even if you can acquire a gun, you better shove it up in your arse than use it in your own defense.
and, as the exact opposite is being valid for criminals, criminals are getting much more bolder in turkey, there are even burglary cases when burglars sense that the owners of the house are actually awake in their beds, but just imitating to be asleep not to be harmed, they say "paps, ma, we know you are awake. but just lie there as you were asleep, so noone will get harmed". and they get away with this.
final word : never ever ban guns, or bar it from being used in self defense. criminals WILL be acquiring guns as they always did, the difference is that when you ban guns, you wont.
if you are here to read news and EXCHANGE ideas with OTHERS, then respect OTHERS, and do not try to scorn/despise different logic chains that are put in front of you if they dont suit with your particular tastes.
but thank you, paps. ill just keep my mouth shut, attend my studies, and just ask opinion from my elders when need be.
i especially used the word "meditation" in the context so it would ring a bell within the empty recesses of your mind. its not the ignorance what is dangerous, but arrogance.
i am able to get to various states of mind without using any substance, and by natural means.
MANY stuff, like minimum wages, retirement, weekly vacation rights, maximum working hours, social security and such, things you all care about much have sprung up from socialism/communism.
extreme prototype versions of these were tested with time, modified and made to work in conjunction with other principles of society.
if not, you would be working monday till sunday 12-14 hours, only getting a break from the work after sunday mass until monday morning.
this is the same thing with filesharing/music/ip thing.
filesharing may be extreme now. just as intellectual property shit (excuse me here, as it is really in the point of being shit right now) is.
in time a balance will be reached, and everyone will be happy.
up until then, "the people", the billions who constitute most of the human civilization on this world will be having to do their downloads in a kinda illegal position, and musicians/artists will be serving as underdogs to already stinking rich and spoiled media/publishing barons.
i never have smoked, i never drank anything containing alcohol, i rarely (maybe 2 or 3 times a year) eat chocolate, and even then i never have experienced any alteration positive or negative in my consciousness after eating any type, brand or amount of chocolate yet.
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i am confused as to your positions against each others' arguments.
then again, i am working right now, listening to "Mr Postman" from 60s, so thats to be expected.
thats an interesting approach.
thread about microsoft's development tools.
"one needs to 'experience' new products before drawing them off the list" they said.
"this is anti ms rant" they said.
and i said "ms has a bad track record when it comes to hidden motives and reliability".
and voila, now this.
come on lets get real. theres a tad bit of silliness in it about einstein being a fraud, but you, as well as i, very well know that the other parts of that about tesla are damn true.
Really ? After ALL they did to consumers, (rootkits and other crap) gamers, (swg anyone ?), other small shitty stunts like this one, one would think that they would come to their senses by now.
At this rate, sony is going to be the first mega corp to bite the dust out of arrogance.
wow.
i re-read your post, and it now seems more like "i like to live the life carpe diem, in fullest experiencing new things and excitements".
this is a business issue. you cant go "carpe diem" or "experience new stuff" in that matter, because this is not an "experience" - clients' cash and future is involved in it.
i divide my position against microsoft to 2 in these matters.
in general, desktop, mail etc and popular-wise, i see microsoft with contempt, because their sony-ish behaviour and cutthroat/dirty competition logic that is so reminiscent of 80es.
web development-wise, professionally, i stay away from microsoft based on one single fact - their reliability record is crap.
web development clients rarely need to get support for using their stuff. websites are built to serve their needs by simple user-side procedures and interfaces. it is not like a local enterprise office solution, or a desktop in a networking environment that many possibilities and complexities occur.
and many of those sites will be either on a dedicated server, very probably tended by the datacenter they are housed in, or on a shared web host, supported by the web hosting provider, so microsoft will never go into equation.
but, microsoft will go into equation totally when they decide to pull a trick to grab more market share or oust some competitor or any of the similar tricks they pulled in the past. all users of that infrastructure will be in trouble then.
its so absurd. after the novell incident i should not need to tell all these to anybody. its bright as day. novell people were aghast at the results of what they did, and how microsoft twisted their little trust exchange into some self serving deviation of legal maneuvering.
its about living life to the fullest, you can take risks and "try out new things".
you cant throw small businesses or heck, even million dollar enterprises at risk for "trying out new stuff" "just not to be prejudice-driven".
still you are talking as if this is not microsoft but some other company. microsoft is famous for screwing up whoever it works with, be it partner or communities. remember novell deal, remember linux ? see how microsoft forces (from their point of view) gamer crowd to upgrade to vista by making it able to run dx10 and xp not ? should i count more examples ?
we are not talking about "one needs to take risks in business" situation, which is kinda like going ipo and investing.
this is a matter of reliability. especially businesses thriving on the web have their lifeline in their web presence. risking that is a no-enterpreneurship situation.
and to clarify - we are not dismissing a product - we are dismissing a company, based on their prior record.
would you go buy from the same department store if the department store continually screwed you over ?
yea.
Unfortunately.
this is a matter of business.
setting up a client in a framework/infrastructure means this client will be doing all his/her/their business on that framework/infrastructure, building and expanding on that, adapting to that, basically living on that.
and when the company that provides that platform pulls the plug or pulls a crap with that platform's users, client and his business is in trouble. this had happened before with many "new experiences and products", and many people had gone through arduous restructuring and readaptation in order to go on with their business on a new platform.
And apologies, but microsoft is not some company that has a great reliability record.
ill set up as many clients as i can on open/free platforms as i did before. because this is their BUSINESS, they are making a living on that, and that cant be risked.
Id rather set up shop for doing development business for 386DX33 webservers than jump ship on any web related stuff microsoft puts out.
so many times we are having to bail out refugee clients running away from microsoft stuff on the web that its not funny anymore. (i wont mention names)
i wouldnt want to imagine a beowulf cluster of what microsoft would put out. and i dont want to be in an "in a microsoft internet microsoft DEVELOPS YOU !" situation.
so count me any many devs out.
how one is supposed to develop an algorithm without a solid understanding of programming ? you cant make it if you have reduced programming emphasis i think.
we were talking about the net neutrality trick they attempted to pull out.
we are talking about the internet. and yes, it is the greatest invention.
Or even reduced ?
are these missing the point that even the smallest piece of crap that operates in anything computer related has programming involved in it ?
are they giving a computer science education, or running a matchmaker service ?
i expected something like this would come up, but i am standing behind what statement i made.
internet is the greatest invention since the dawn of civilization.
Good lord.
as if they werent the ones pulled stunts just a while ago, to be not a monopoly, but the sole controller of the greatest invention mankind ever had.
our leash holders at riaa member companies are looking forward to suck the internet radio dry, while continuing to screw artists over over royalties - so that together we can ensure that our place as the leeches of the creative industries will continue unabashed.
you are right but more needs to be done
In turkey, only licensed people can BUY guns for having them in their homes, and to acquire a license for this is hard.
Acquiring a license for CARRYING a gun, is HELL.
as a result, gun ownership is at very low levels compared to usa.
but, as in all countries, criminals have no problems about acquiring any type of small arms. they cant acquire semi automatics, automatics only, as there is terrorism threat in turkey and state pays much attention to this. but, small arms and rifles can be acquired quite easily.
and EVEN if you have a gun to defend yourself, as once a police officer had put it, when he was investigating a burglary at my house "If you have a gun, and see a burglar, shoot it towards the ceiling, shoot it towards the ground, shoot it away from him. if he EVER gets harmed, injured, or heck, even dead, you will serve at least 2 years, while he will get out in 2 months. Its no use having a gun, only maybe if you can scare him by showing it to him, and then they are not scared these days".
so, in turkey, even if you can acquire a gun, you better shove it up in your arse than use it in your own defense.
and, as the exact opposite is being valid for criminals, criminals are getting much more bolder in turkey, there are even burglary cases when burglars sense that the owners of the house are actually awake in their beds, but just imitating to be asleep not to be harmed, they say "paps, ma, we know you are awake. but just lie there as you were asleep, so noone will get harmed". and they get away with this.
final word : never ever ban guns, or bar it from being used in self defense. criminals WILL be acquiring guns as they always did, the difference is that when you ban guns, you wont.
if you are here to read news and EXCHANGE ideas with OTHERS, then respect OTHERS, and do not try to scorn/despise different logic chains that are put in front of you if they dont suit with your particular tastes.
but thank you, paps. ill just keep my mouth shut, attend my studies, and just ask opinion from my elders when need be.
not.
i especially used the word "meditation" in the context so it would ring a bell within the empty recesses of your mind. its not the ignorance what is dangerous, but arrogance.
i am able to get to various states of mind without using any substance, and by natural means.
dont be morons.
MANY stuff, like minimum wages, retirement, weekly vacation rights, maximum working hours, social security and such, things you all care about much have sprung up from socialism/communism.
extreme prototype versions of these were tested with time, modified and made to work in conjunction with other principles of society.
if not, you would be working monday till sunday 12-14 hours, only getting a break from the work after sunday mass until monday morning.
this is the same thing with filesharing/music/ip thing.
filesharing may be extreme now. just as intellectual property shit (excuse me here, as it is really in the point of being shit right now) is.
in time a balance will be reached, and everyone will be happy.
up until then, "the people", the billions who constitute most of the human civilization on this world will be having to do their downloads in a kinda illegal position, and musicians/artists will be serving as underdogs to already stinking rich and spoiled media/publishing barons.
i never have smoked, i never drank anything containing alcohol, i rarely (maybe 2 or 3 times a year) eat chocolate, and even then i never have experienced any alteration positive or negative in my consciousness after eating any type, brand or amount of chocolate yet.