and ZILLIONS of people dammit. since when being together with people in numerous legal activities have become "an addiction" ? if so, im a people addict.
pity the pathetic brain of scientist who dares to compare alcohol addiction with internet connectivity.
Sorry, no elaborate arguments, witty remarks, or logic this time. Damn you all who voted for these idiots and made them a trouble for the entire world.
Anybody who doesnt think that Blizzard is intentionally trying to suck people into this game with no regard for what the person will end up losing in the long run.....try going to worldofwarcraft.com and attempt to cancel your account....blizzard does everything short of bribing you with free play time to keep that account up and running.
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Playing computer games have no difference from the real world pursuits apart from the fact that it is much more easier to both access and perform.
There are people who are squandering their lives over playing snooker, or "hanging out with friends" while smoking marijuana in dusky bars. Not majority of people who get involved in these squander their lives, because to be able to squander yourself over these requires much money (in case of avid club-hangers), commitment (in case of snooker) or other resources that are in short supply. (like energy to spend).
The key, like EVERYTHING in life, is getting the balance of things. Nothing else.
As i said computer games are the most low cost and easy doable pursuit in the world. Just because its very easy to do and right under your hand, makes you to be able to spend more time for it.
Your solution is to balance it out with other things in your life, and thats it.
Dont worry though, playing like the way you played wow is something that passes over time. in at most 2 years, such avid computer game players either become progamers, or naturally and casually, and without much effort, turn this playing into some "delicatessen" stuff that is to be done for a few hours each evening, or a weekend.
cameras and papers does not constitute any diminishing factor to your power over your governments.
the nazi genocide was a reality, so it doesnt matter if there is a law against disbelieving it or not.
what is important is that, european bureucracy consist of people more susceptible to people than the big money circles, despite the situation in united states. you have much more chance.
"There is something magical in seeing a website update its content without reloading the whole page, which is the visual essence of Ajax."
Also there is something magical in seeing your computer get busted with tons of new trojans, virus, backdoors, worms with the new exploitation possibilities ajax provides.
Before hippies, it was "do duty by your country, appear conformist at all costs, supress your and others feelings, wealth is good, wealthy is respectable, politicians always right" morally.
And "exploit whatever you can in the name of production, consumption, technological progress, political power, poison the air, sea, water, people, let the government cover it up" socially.
After hippies the ideas that constitute many of the socially bettering principles that we now see as normal have come.
If this is pond scum, i request that whole world should be a pond, and scum be filled in it.
My mother was an agricultural engineer in government service.
She died because of intestine cancer, caused by usage of DDT for agricultural purposes.
If hippies came 10-20 years earlier, she wouldnt have died.
So sire, go drown yourself in a pond.
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doh - all these differences between measurement units and the opportunities they create
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Air force does not think so.
It is an absurd scale if it puts me in "morbidly" or any other sort of "obese".
Should be an american scale apparently, in which healthy people are taken to be skeleton-like supermodels.
being 40 years married for now, makes them at least 60 years old.
Those generations were different from today's generations. Then the values of sincerity, fidelity, sacrifice etc were more emphasized and seen important.
Today's generations have generally grown up in leisure conditions, at least acceptable environments. They have been urged to go to be the best, to get the best, to enjoy life etc.
As a result most of the female members are little princesses, and males are princes.
They marry, and they think that marriage is going to be a place where the attention and effort is still focused on them, like in the parents' house or the college.
Both, after a while sees it is not so. Then problems arise.
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And curiously, you are an anonymous coward here, in your post. Which makes me wonder.
I, a supposed geek, am deliberately expressing opinions about what i have EXPERIENCED in around my life and the people's lives around, a spectrum of people in many ways and alleys of life, yet, your response is just like reprimanding a way out of control husband, albeit in a more fierce manner.
What i see in your post is emotional belittlement and supression of opposite idea, which is EXACTLY the thing i wrote that lenghty post for.
Bad experiences with women - and where did the hell you come with that from ? - Well, one can definitely go into many types of unfounded assumptions when s/he tries to supress an opposite idea cant s/he ?
I, myself suggest you take a look on your post and see that your post alone proves my point.
Misreading and misperceptions here ...
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"You, by now definitely thinking that this is a macho post... and im laying all the blame on women."
Why, yes I am. I can't believe a post saying, and I quote, "women are faulty" got an "insightful" score.
That is of course without reading the latter part of the sentence & post that clearly states "women are faulty IN THIS". in this = case at hand. so no surprise you cant believe why this got an insightful score.
Sure, women have a biological drive to find a secure, loving home to raise children. Even if we choose not to raise a family, we still are wired to be in and part of a loving, caring environment. It's not a fault, it's a virtue that ensures the future of the human race.
When this biological drive to create or be in a loving, secure home starts being in expense of another (male here) soul's expense, there is a problem in that. We, the mankind is not striving to exist just for the existance's sake. We strive to live more fulfilled lives. So, if women tend to turn males to puppets that only feed the herd, by using their emotional superiority, this is exploitation without intention.
Besides, if you never "get out and do something", you'll quickly become obese, lethargic, and die of a heart attack at the age of 40. Who wants to be married to that?
another misperception here, despite i spend VERY much time in front of the computer, and eat everytime i feel like it, im 1.83 cm in height and 75-80 kg in weight. Which proportions are just appropriate for enlisting in the air force academy that has the tightest health requirements in my country.
We live in a world of misperceptions, as you can easily see.
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yes, you are an exception that not only included in my point, but proves it still.
Your spouse is more "me-worldly" than yourself, apparently. which is generally the opposite in female population, they being more "me-worldly".
VERY common misperception here
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"geek" has no social skills.
And apparently, whatnot, you have seen sufficient "evidence" from my post indicative of that matter.
Totally irrelevant.
I have been involved in 4 different clubs in university, did the vice presidency of one of them, which was not a club but even more of a technical department anyways, and also in the meantime i have become involved and worked in a respectable position in a big political party that was the main opposition then.
all these without counting the social organization and stuff i did over the internet.
A very common misconception that is very easily and mistakenly slapped to so-called 'geek's forehead or to the people who do not very much prefer to PHYSICALLY get out of the location and pre-historically come face to face with MANY other people.
If we had internet back then, i would very much prefer to do many stuff over the net, social wise, because it saves you HUGE amounts of time, and prevents unneccessary energy&time wastage for doing trivial social contact.
Internet provides me with much more social contact, on MY initiative. Rather than trying to chance the schedules with some other 4 guys once every month and "see" them by spending a considerable amount of time and effort to meet, i can get into contact with over 80+ people in icq, 40+ people in msn. And a great many of them overseas people.
There are times that one needs to close down instant messengers to feel alone. If used in correct manner, internet amenities can provide THAT much social interaction.
The same thing that was valid in physical contact is still valid on the internet too - less quantity, more quality. Choose who you get around yourself, even in an instant messenger, and you may get phenomenonal amount of pleasure from a simple text chat too.
So please spare me the stereotypical understanding of "people who sit in front of computer dont do any social" crap that is only befitting of a grandmother who has no idea what the hell this internet thing is.
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Yes indeed.
MOST women, almost ALL of them, in every nation of the world, have a tendency to see the universe around them as "part of their life".
Its mostly about their dreams, their needs, their wants, the things that they deem important, things they think should be done or should not.
It can be said to a degree that women live in "their-self" world, in which, the things in existence around are always seen as "part of" their inner world, self.
In short, its "me", not in an overly selfish way, in fact a rather childish perception, but "me" again.
Whereas men, because of the way our current civilization treats them, tends to understand the fact that there is a "me" and "the others" in the world, always. They are more aware that there are "other entitites" in the world, and they are apart from his self, and those other entities have their own agendas, feelings, plans, perceptions, and views.
A short example - a man would think thrice before getting outta the car and yelling at some other car's driver, even he is extremely pissed of - the other guy can be a karate-expert, can be a psycho, can be district attorney, and even indeed, might be right to a degree - world is never black & white.
Women on the other side, tend to behave like there are noone other than themselves while on traffic, even the traffic is an extension of their own selves' lives. Not somewhere filled with many other thinking and conscious entities, but a place they go to and back from work.
This perception varies with income, the social situation in different countries, with education, and (though there are VERY few women in this situation) with a more developed soul, but overall in all over the world, the same generalization applies.
This IT & computer thing is something that is closely tied to that matter.
You might be going to work, doing hell lot of things there that your wife does not want you to do, but, overall, its ok - because you are doing this labor for betterment of the life you are a part of - her life - the baby, the family, the social position, income, amenities and so on. You, are a part of her life. And when you come home, you HAVE to continue being a part of her life, you will deal with stuff, you will watch tv, you will attend kids, eat dinner, listen to this or that and be told that you need to do this or that - all ok. In general, in house, your attentions and your concentration is always on something that is directly related to your wife, or something that she wants you to concentrate on.
There is a VERY big difference if you are in IT, or you are into games.
Both computer games, and IT, are things that can totally get the concentration, creativity, and attention busy on them, your mind and social mind are totally busied and, what is more, satisfied, as their energy overage and desire to act on something is fulfilled.
But, as in the very big but, this process generally totally engulfs your concentration - you are at that point totally taken off of the "self" life of your wife, or the parts that take place in it, and carried away to abstract or "virtual" concepts and environments. At that moment, you are no longer part of her life, because you are not interacting with any part of her life, or doing any benefit or enjoyment to any part of it.
Just like cats get very annoyed with extreme attention you are paying the monitor and keyboard, and come and lay on the keyboard or mouse and try to take attention.
If this trent continues, your wife, will increasingly see you negligent, as you are not concentrating on things that she deems important. Increasingly will she distance herself from you, if the attempts to forcibly get your attention back to what she sees as important via fights, emotional blackmail, social conscience blackmail, fails. Then, the divorce.
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sex in the middle of mayhem, eh ?
and ZILLIONS of people dammit. since when being together with people in numerous legal activities have become "an addiction" ? if so, im a people addict.
pity the pathetic brain of scientist who dares to compare alcohol addiction with internet connectivity.
morons.
as if they were able to defend u.s. against 9/11 with all the resources they had ...
Now they are going to waste shitload of taxpayer money for stuff in space - just to please their arms-industry backers.
Sorry, no elaborate arguments, witty remarks, or logic this time. Damn you all who voted for these idiots and made them a trouble for the entire world.
Anybody who doesnt think that Blizzard is intentionally trying to suck people into this game with no regard for what the person will end up losing in the long run.....try going to worldofwarcraft.com and attempt to cancel your account....blizzard does everything short of bribing you with free play time to keep that account up and running. 1:04 AM Anonymous said... Playing computer games have no difference from the real world pursuits apart from the fact that it is much more easier to both access and perform. There are people who are squandering their lives over playing snooker, or "hanging out with friends" while smoking marijuana in dusky bars. Not majority of people who get involved in these squander their lives, because to be able to squander yourself over these requires much money (in case of avid club-hangers), commitment (in case of snooker) or other resources that are in short supply. (like energy to spend). The key, like EVERYTHING in life, is getting the balance of things. Nothing else. As i said computer games are the most low cost and easy doable pursuit in the world. Just because its very easy to do and right under your hand, makes you to be able to spend more time for it. Your solution is to balance it out with other things in your life, and thats it. Dont worry though, playing like the way you played wow is something that passes over time. in at most 2 years, such avid computer game players either become progamers, or naturally and casually, and without much effort, turn this playing into some "delicatessen" stuff that is to be done for a few hours each evening, or a weekend.
cameras and papers does not constitute any diminishing factor to your power over your governments.
the nazi genocide was a reality, so it doesnt matter if there is a law against disbelieving it or not.
what is important is that, european bureucracy consist of people more susceptible to people than the big money circles, despite the situation in united states. you have much more chance.
in contrast to americans in their own country.
You have more rights, more say, more power over administration.
Use it. or you are going to be treated as how bush adm. treats americans.
"slim, attractive, intelligent and creative sauna loving meatball munching copyright infringing swashbuckling pirate blonde overlords"
i already have wet myself in boundless extacy.
Yea, we are BILLIONS.
For if you have not noticed, we are "the people", and you are shit.
"There is something magical in seeing a website update its content without reloading the whole page, which is the visual essence of Ajax."
Also there is something magical in seeing your computer get busted with tons of new trojans, virus, backdoors, worms with the new exploitation possibilities ajax provides.
Let us see :
Before hippies, it was "do duty by your country, appear conformist at all costs, supress your and others feelings, wealth is good, wealthy is respectable, politicians always right" morally.
And "exploit whatever you can in the name of production, consumption, technological progress, political power, poison the air, sea, water, people, let the government cover it up" socially.
After hippies the ideas that constitute many of the socially bettering principles that we now see as normal have come.
If this is pond scum, i request that whole world should be a pond, and scum be filled in it.
My mother was an agricultural engineer in government service.
She died because of intestine cancer, caused by usage of DDT for agricultural purposes.
If hippies came 10-20 years earlier, she wouldnt have died.
So sire, go drown yourself in a pond.
doh - all these differences between measurement units and the opportunities they create
Air force does not think so.
It is an absurd scale if it puts me in "morbidly" or any other sort of "obese".
Should be an american scale apparently, in which healthy people are taken to be skeleton-like supermodels.
Baby boom generation still had virtuous principles. Heck, the hippie generation was of baby boomers.
If we find the toilet seat down, we put it up and do our thing. We dont yell or bitch about it being up or down.
WHY dont women do the same ?
I dont get why people pose doing sports as an "obligatory" thing.
People fail to realize that every body has its unique psyhology, with its own biorhytm and such.
I dont do sports. i sit in front of computer. i dont go out much. i eat whenever i want.
Yet im still 1.83 cm and 75-80 kg, and healthy.
The main thing is to listen to your body and tend to ITS needs, not what society thinks it needs.
being 40 years married for now, makes them at least 60 years old.
Those generations were different from today's generations. Then the values of sincerity, fidelity, sacrifice etc were more emphasized and seen important.
Today's generations have generally grown up in leisure conditions, at least acceptable environments. They have been urged to go to be the best, to get the best, to enjoy life etc.
As a result most of the female members are little princesses, and males are princes.
They marry, and they think that marriage is going to be a place where the attention and effort is still focused on them, like in the parents' house or the college.
Both, after a while sees it is not so. Then problems arise.
And curiously, you are an anonymous coward here, in your post. Which makes me wonder.
I, a supposed geek, am deliberately expressing opinions about what i have EXPERIENCED in around my life and the people's lives around, a spectrum of people in many ways and alleys of life, yet, your response is just like reprimanding a way out of control husband, albeit in a more fierce manner.
What i see in your post is emotional belittlement and supression of opposite idea, which is EXACTLY the thing i wrote that lenghty post for.
Bad experiences with women - and where did the hell you come with that from ? - Well, one can definitely go into many types of unfounded assumptions when s/he tries to supress an opposite idea cant s/he ?
I, myself suggest you take a look on your post and see that your post alone proves my point.
"You, by now definitely thinking that this is a macho post ... and im laying all the blame on women."
Why, yes I am. I can't believe a post saying, and I quote, "women are faulty" got an "insightful" score.
That is of course without reading the latter part of the sentence & post that clearly states "women are faulty IN THIS". in this = case at hand. so no surprise you cant believe why this got an insightful score.
Sure, women have a biological drive to find a secure, loving home to raise children. Even if we choose not to raise a family, we still are wired to be in and part of a loving, caring environment. It's not a fault, it's a virtue that ensures the future of the human race.
When this biological drive to create or be in a loving, secure home starts being in expense of another (male here) soul's expense, there is a problem in that. We, the mankind is not striving to exist just for the existance's sake. We strive to live more fulfilled lives. So, if women tend to turn males to puppets that only feed the herd, by using their emotional superiority, this is exploitation without intention.
Besides, if you never "get out and do something", you'll quickly become obese, lethargic, and die of a heart attack at the age of 40. Who wants to be married to that?
another misperception here, despite i spend VERY much time in front of the computer, and eat everytime i feel like it, im 1.83 cm in height and 75-80 kg in weight. Which proportions are just appropriate for enlisting in the air force academy that has the tightest health requirements in my country.
We live in a world of misperceptions, as you can easily see.
yes, you are an exception that not only included in my point, but proves it still.
Your spouse is more "me-worldly" than yourself, apparently. which is generally the opposite in female population, they being more "me-worldly".
"geek" has no social skills.
And apparently, whatnot, you have seen sufficient "evidence" from my post indicative of that matter.
Totally irrelevant.
I have been involved in 4 different clubs in university, did the vice presidency of one of them, which was not a club but even more of a technical department anyways, and also in the meantime i have become involved and worked in a respectable position in a big political party that was the main opposition then.
all these without counting the social organization and stuff i did over the internet.
A very common misconception that is very easily and mistakenly slapped to so-called 'geek's forehead or to the people who do not very much prefer to PHYSICALLY get out of the location and pre-historically come face to face with MANY other people.
If we had internet back then, i would very much prefer to do many stuff over the net, social wise, because it saves you HUGE amounts of time, and prevents unneccessary energy&time wastage for doing trivial social contact.
Internet provides me with much more social contact, on MY initiative. Rather than trying to chance the schedules with some other 4 guys once every month and "see" them by spending a considerable amount of time and effort to meet, i can get into contact with over 80+ people in icq, 40+ people in msn. And a great many of them overseas people.
There are times that one needs to close down instant messengers to feel alone. If used in correct manner, internet amenities can provide THAT much social interaction.
The same thing that was valid in physical contact is still valid on the internet too - less quantity, more quality. Choose who you get around yourself, even in an instant messenger, and you may get phenomenonal amount of pleasure from a simple text chat too.
So please spare me the stereotypical understanding of "people who sit in front of computer dont do any social" crap that is only befitting of a grandmother who has no idea what the hell this internet thing is.
Yes indeed.
MOST women, almost ALL of them, in every nation of the world, have a tendency to see the universe around them as "part of their life".
Its mostly about their dreams, their needs, their wants, the things that they deem important, things they think should be done or should not.
It can be said to a degree that women live in "their-self" world, in which, the things in existence around are always seen as "part of" their inner world, self.
In short, its "me", not in an overly selfish way, in fact a rather childish perception, but "me" again.
Whereas men, because of the way our current civilization treats them, tends to understand the fact that there is a "me" and "the others" in the world, always. They are more aware that there are "other entitites" in the world, and they are apart from his self, and those other entities have their own agendas, feelings, plans, perceptions, and views.
A short example - a man would think thrice before getting outta the car and yelling at some other car's driver, even he is extremely pissed of - the other guy can be a karate-expert, can be a psycho, can be district attorney, and even indeed, might be right to a degree - world is never black & white.
Women on the other side, tend to behave like there are noone other than themselves while on traffic, even the traffic is an extension of their own selves' lives. Not somewhere filled with many other thinking and conscious entities, but a place they go to and back from work.
This perception varies with income, the social situation in different countries, with education, and (though there are VERY few women in this situation) with a more developed soul, but overall in all over the world, the same generalization applies.
This IT & computer thing is something that is closely tied to that matter.
You might be going to work, doing hell lot of things there that your wife does not want you to do, but, overall, its ok - because you are doing this labor for betterment of the life you are a part of - her life - the baby, the family, the social position, income, amenities and so on. You, are a part of her life. And when you come home, you HAVE to continue being a part of her life, you will deal with stuff, you will watch tv, you will attend kids, eat dinner, listen to this or that and be told that you need to do this or that - all ok. In general, in house, your attentions and your concentration is always on something that is directly related to your wife, or something that she wants you to concentrate on.
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTT TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTtt
There is a VERY big difference if you are in IT, or you are into games.
Both computer games, and IT, are things that can totally get the concentration, creativity, and attention busy on them, your mind and social mind are totally busied and, what is more, satisfied, as their energy overage and desire to act on something is fulfilled.
But, as in the very big but, this process generally totally engulfs your concentration - you are at that point totally taken off of the "self" life of your wife, or the parts that take place in it, and carried away to abstract or "virtual" concepts and environments. At that moment, you are no longer part of her life, because you are not interacting with any part of her life, or doing any benefit or enjoyment to any part of it.
Just like cats get very annoyed with extreme attention you are paying the monitor and keyboard, and come and lay on the keyboard or mouse and try to take attention.
If this trent continues, your wife, will increasingly see you negligent, as you are not concentrating on things that she deems important. Increasingly will she distance herself from you, if the attempts to forcibly get your attention back to what she sees as important via fights, emotional blackmail, social conscience blackmail, fails. Then, the divorce.
Wo
MORE microsoft CRAP. this is it. havent this always been happening before ?
So WHAT are you surprised with ?
Just DONT buy vista, and let them shove it up their arses with their "intellectual property" conspirators, the big money.
And, sire, you are, apparently, an anonymous coward.