best would be to illustrate the issue with an example. the code below in my signature, is a code that i have programmed just because of such stuff with various 'frameworks'.
check it out. and tell me how do you evaluate drupal's strength as such, as compared to the ease of use, curve and modifiability of the code you see in the signature.
then check out the code in my link below at sourceforge, and tell me what you think about learning curve, modifiability, ease of use and expandability.
its not about 'skills' or professionalism or learning how things work. its how efficient things are. drupal, is not efficient, at any expertise level. with the time being spent doing things in drupal, much more can be done in some other platform in the same experience level. be it hobbyist, be it professional. time is a resource.
If I were an official in the Chinese government, I'd trust a Chinese forked Redhat distribution combed by loyal Chinese developers a lot more than a closed source operating system from a large US company to keep my secrets safe
not to mention all the world, even the u.s. corporations themselves are finding out it to be the same, with the news we are getting of nsa, cia, fbi tampering and corporations willingly letting them tamper and install backdoors in their software for them.
a market which is bigger than 1 billion, (more than 1/7th of the world, mind that) would just open itself to you, just as you wanted it to ?
oh boy. that only happens in america, or satellite states since the corporations have the government all in check all the time. its not that way with china, 1+bn, india ~1bn, and russia (200 mil+) and so on.
its high time to wake up to the fact that not all world turns on the hinge of governments which are vulnerable to riaa, mpaa, bsa, this that.
i had attempted to use drupal 6 for a simple website that the user would use to publish this or that article. it turned to hell, when i learned that i had to conjure an entire module for just changing the looks of a web form that i was going to use, or hack the core files to change the looks of the form, or other horrible workarounds. when i got around that, and proceeded, i had come up against similar issues with other stuff that should be simple in any given platform. eventually, we had left drupal and used a custom code to implement the project. i wouldnt have even entered that route if client didnt want it, being recommended by hearsay that goes around the net through its zealots.
no, they dont matter. government's size is not what matters, its the situation in the economic spectrum of life, that matters. who runs and rules the economy, what are the rules there. these are what matters. government may increase in size, become 10 times its own size, and yet still not be encompassing a few percent of the economy. it may totally blanket 1-2 sectors, yet hundreds of sectors may be dominated by private cartels. the government may be doing huge spending to prop up the army, yet the private sector may be controlling the economy.
what is left to be in the economy, and whether it is left as a dog eat dog world, is what matters. and in that respect, all right wing in america are the same in their very basis. they are delusional to think that if you just let things be, it turns out ok. yet, when they are queried whether we should leave army, judiciary, law, enforcement to private sector, they shut up.
of intellectual/information world. not only they can monopolize thinking through their endless resources with patents, but apparently now they also think that they can decide who gets access to what information, and at what cost.
i didnt miss the qualifier 'traditional'. because there is no 'traditional' in this. i dont see any actual difference in between republicans, randians, neocons, even libertarians. details do not matter, the basis matters - they all have the delusion that if you just let everything be, things work out somehow. they propose this in economy, the thing that runs EVERYthing, because all the resources are in that economy, but, when they are asked why we shouldnt implement the same 'free market' systems in military, police, judiciary too, they fell silent. they cant provide any acceptable response to that, they know it, yet they still keep pushing what they cannot trust in these fields of life, in economics.
An iceland parlementarian's twitter account subpoenaed by u.s. government, yet, the operation to spy on the iceland government, for some godfrigging reason, is proposed to be the operation by wikileaks ?
can anyone provide any actual logic for this proposition ?
'freedom' is the illusion. there is no freedom to a system that allows the strong to dominate the weak, be it economical or political. not to mention that, economic power eventually reflects as political power.
ALL of them americans complain about corrupt government, yet, they refuse to take what corrupts it head on ; as long as there are private interests who are allowed to amass boundless economic resources, they WILL use it to dominate everyone. there has never been a case in history of the world, in which economic power was not used to dominate others.
you should reread the parent you replied to. there is no relevance in between the two. in republican (ayn rand) mindset, everything is left to private parties, then the strongest of which decide what happens. the decisionmaker here, is not the strongest private party, in this model.
the most intolerant bunch of people on earth - americans. not even able to bear opposing ideas. the difference is that, their radicalism, zealotry comes when 'free market' is challenged. thats their religion.
i gave statistics, i gave numbers, ACTUAL data, i gave history, yet, some moron still modded it down. why ?
religion. nothing else. the difference in between someone in middle east and the american zealotry is the suicide bomb.
scroll the thread and see the 'free' market zealots still trying to assert that there has never been a 'free' market on the face of the world up till now. in the brief episode in late 1800s where there was such a condition, almost all of the american asses nearly ended up being owned by 10 individuals (not even corporations). they got their assess off vanderbilt et al, thanks to theodore roosevelt. but, they hate him, because, well, they dont know shit actually.
40% or so of them are hopeless. so brainwashed in their belief in the 'invisible hand' of the market (which is something not only nonexistent, but also never worked), no less than a radical zealot in middle east is brainwashed in his/her holy crusade. two sides of a spectrum, no different than the other.
of course, that is if you take open source as 'the strongest dominates', and the distribution and sharing of wealth as something that comes of worse than middle ages
in middle ages, 33% of the produce from land went to serfs, 33% to church, 33% to lord. that was the law and was observed everywhere more or less.
currently, top 5% of america gets 72% of everything, whereas bottom 85% gets only 15%. that is BEYOND medieval.
not to mention that alan greenspan, the foremost priest of that church have come up in front of senate committee and confessed that 'free market' did not work, openly, and clearly, saying he was wrong. yet, here you are, selling it to us again.
excuse me, but you are selling bullshit. sell it elsewhere.
and did that 'constitutional' model help ANY of the bullshit we have experienced in the last decade ? ranging from soldiers shooting at students to monsanto killing entire agriculture ? AND on top of it, these being called freedom and economic prosperity ?
despite the distribution of income has become worse than the disparage in between medieval serf, and baron in middle ages. (33% serf, 33% church, 33% lord).
excuse me, but you seem to come off sounding like a right wing nutjob. using the word 'constitution' to excuse all kinds of bullshit.
asking whether a local community is willing to share something with the rest of the state is nowhere near anything republican.
in republican, which is just another term for ayn randian, everything is left to the private parties to decide. the strongest private party decides everything in proportion to its economic power, and this is considered something good. there is no 'sharing' in that, and there is no regulatory authority involved in that. that is nowhere near what he describes.
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best would be to illustrate the issue with an example. the code below in my signature, is a code that i have programmed just because of such stuff with various 'frameworks'.
check it out. and tell me how do you evaluate drupal's strength as such, as compared to the ease of use, curve and modifiability of the code you see in the signature.
then check out the code in my link below at sourceforge, and tell me what you think about learning curve, modifiability, ease of use and expandability.
its not about 'skills' or professionalism or learning how things work. its how efficient things are. drupal, is not efficient, at any expertise level. with the time being spent doing things in drupal, much more can be done in some other platform in the same experience level. be it hobbyist, be it professional. time is a resource.
If I were an official in the Chinese government, I'd trust a Chinese forked Redhat distribution combed by loyal Chinese developers a lot more than a closed source operating system from a large US company to keep my secrets safe
not to mention all the world, even the u.s. corporations themselves are finding out it to be the same, with the news we are getting of nsa, cia, fbi tampering and corporations willingly letting them tamper and install backdoors in their software for them.
a market which is bigger than 1 billion, (more than 1/7th of the world, mind that) would just open itself to you, just as you wanted it to ?
oh boy. that only happens in america, or satellite states since the corporations have the government all in check all the time. its not that way with china, 1+bn, india ~1bn, and russia (200 mil+) and so on.
its high time to wake up to the fact that not all world turns on the hinge of governments which are vulnerable to riaa, mpaa, bsa, this that.
i dont see other cmses get pushed here in slashdot. yet, its drupal every other month ? if not its version, its a book written on drupal.
why is this cms being pushed all over others in slashdot ? is someone from the admin crowd participating in drupal (gasp) development ?
i had attempted to use drupal 6 for a simple website that the user would use to publish this or that article. it turned to hell, when i learned that i had to conjure an entire module for just changing the looks of a web form that i was going to use, or hack the core files to change the looks of the form, or other horrible workarounds. when i got around that, and proceeded, i had come up against similar issues with other stuff that should be simple in any given platform. eventually, we had left drupal and used a custom code to implement the project. i wouldnt have even entered that route if client didnt want it, being recommended by hearsay that goes around the net through its zealots.
use the fork ...
When did compliance with RIAA become a law, regulation, or directive ?
no, they dont matter. government's size is not what matters, its the situation in the economic spectrum of life, that matters. who runs and rules the economy, what are the rules there. these are what matters. government may increase in size, become 10 times its own size, and yet still not be encompassing a few percent of the economy. it may totally blanket 1-2 sectors, yet hundreds of sectors may be dominated by private cartels. the government may be doing huge spending to prop up the army, yet the private sector may be controlling the economy.
what is left to be in the economy, and whether it is left as a dog eat dog world, is what matters. and in that respect, all right wing in america are the same in their very basis. they are delusional to think that if you just let things be, it turns out ok. yet, when they are queried whether we should leave army, judiciary, law, enforcement to private sector, they shut up.
Congress does not own Verizon's infrastructure, Verizon does.
the infrastructure that was built on PUBLIC land, with PUBLIC subsidies and with PUBLIC permission ?
what are you ? a moron ? people paid for that infrastructure. when did verizon get the right to usurp public land ?
of intellectual/information world. not only they can monopolize thinking through their endless resources with patents, but apparently now they also think that they can decide who gets access to what information, and at what cost.
then why did it not happen with the censorship law in spain, after all that bullying ?
isnt it possible that the third parties, who are extremely irritated by wikileaks, have intended to gather information on them ?
i didnt miss the qualifier 'traditional'. because there is no 'traditional' in this. i dont see any actual difference in between republicans, randians, neocons, even libertarians. details do not matter, the basis matters - they all have the delusion that if you just let everything be, things work out somehow. they propose this in economy, the thing that runs EVERYthing, because all the resources are in that economy, but, when they are asked why we shouldnt implement the same 'free market' systems in military, police, judiciary too, they fell silent. they cant provide any acceptable response to that, they know it, yet they still keep pushing what they cannot trust in these fields of life, in economics.
An iceland parlementarian's twitter account subpoenaed by u.s. government, yet, the operation to spy on the iceland government, for some godfrigging reason, is proposed to be the operation by wikileaks ?
can anyone provide any actual logic for this proposition ?
'freedom' is the illusion. there is no freedom to a system that allows the strong to dominate the weak, be it economical or political. not to mention that, economic power eventually reflects as political power.
ALL of them americans complain about corrupt government, yet, they refuse to take what corrupts it head on ; as long as there are private interests who are allowed to amass boundless economic resources, they WILL use it to dominate everyone. there has never been a case in history of the world, in which economic power was not used to dominate others.
youre posting as anonymous coward.
you should reread the parent you replied to. there is no relevance in between the two. in republican (ayn rand) mindset, everything is left to private parties, then the strongest of which decide what happens. the decisionmaker here, is not the strongest private party, in this model.
the most intolerant bunch of people on earth - americans. not even able to bear opposing ideas. the difference is that, their radicalism, zealotry comes when 'free market' is challenged. thats their religion.
i gave statistics, i gave numbers, ACTUAL data, i gave history, yet, some moron still modded it down. why ?
religion. nothing else. the difference in between someone in middle east and the american zealotry is the suicide bomb.
scroll the thread and see the 'free' market zealots still trying to assert that there has never been a 'free' market on the face of the world up till now. in the brief episode in late 1800s where there was such a condition, almost all of the american asses nearly ended up being owned by 10 individuals (not even corporations). they got their assess off vanderbilt et al, thanks to theodore roosevelt. but, they hate him, because, well, they dont know shit actually.
40% or so of them are hopeless. so brainwashed in their belief in the 'invisible hand' of the market (which is something not only nonexistent, but also never worked), no less than a radical zealot in middle east is brainwashed in his/her holy crusade. two sides of a spectrum, no different than the other.
proposing anything otherwise, makes them berserk.
of course, that is if you take open source as 'the strongest dominates', and the distribution and sharing of wealth as something that comes of worse than middle ages
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
in middle ages, 33% of the produce from land went to serfs, 33% to church, 33% to lord. that was the law and was observed everywhere more or less.
currently, top 5% of america gets 72% of everything, whereas bottom 85% gets only 15%. that is BEYOND medieval.
not to mention that alan greenspan, the foremost priest of that church have come up in front of senate committee and confessed that 'free market' did not work, openly, and clearly, saying he was wrong. yet, here you are, selling it to us again.
excuse me, but you are selling bullshit. sell it elsewhere.
and did that 'constitutional' model help ANY of the bullshit we have experienced in the last decade ? ranging from soldiers shooting at students to monsanto killing entire agriculture ? AND on top of it, these being called freedom and economic prosperity ?
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
despite the distribution of income has become worse than the disparage in between medieval serf, and baron in middle ages. (33% serf, 33% church, 33% lord).
excuse me, but you seem to come off sounding like a right wing nutjob. using the word 'constitution' to excuse all kinds of bullshit.
the sarcasm you describe above, seems to be the exact thing we need in order to solve corruption on this planet.
asking whether a local community is willing to share something with the rest of the state is nowhere near anything republican.
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in republican, which is just another term for ayn randian, everything is left to the private parties to decide. the strongest private party decides everything in proportion to its economic power, and this is considered something good. there is no 'sharing' in that, and there is no regulatory authority involved in that. that is nowhere near what he describes.
please dont sell shit on