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  1. Re:This happened to kuro5hin five years ago on Trusting Users Too Much · · Score: 1

    K5 could not last. The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long and all that.

    People naturally want to be with like minded people. But the problem with that is that it gets really boring really fast talking about the same things all the time. What made K5 great was that there was a good mix of people. The emo crowd who took the site seriously would write well researched articles. The troll crowd would pick apart these articles if the writer tried to bullshit people in any way. The result was well researched, concise, thought provoking articles.

    But it wouldn't last. The emo crowd couldn't live with the troll crowd and vice versa. One group would inevitably leave. Rusty had to decide whether to implement strict anti-trolling measures and get rid of the trolls or just let the trolls drive the emos away. Maybe he thought the trolls were entertaining. Maybe he didn't like the idea of censoring a certain group of people. Maybe he didn't want to spend a huge amount of time in a possibly futile battle against the trolls. Maybe he was just lazy. Whatever his reasons, rusty took a laissez-faire aproach to the trolls as long (as they didn't take things way too far).

    The end result was the emo crowd left for husi to write diaries about their cats and talk about how hard it is to talk to women, etc. And the trolls rule K5, mostly throwing obscene jokes back and forth with the occasional brilliant article (like once a year).

    Now the Husi crowd blames the trolls for the decline of K5 and the trolls claims the Husi crowd was too wimpy to handle criticism. The truth is probably somewhere in between. The trolls were too vindictive and the emos were wusses.

    So now the republicans hang out at freerepublic. the Democrats hang out at dailykos. The trolls hang out at K5. The Emos are at husi. Everyone can safely preach to their respective choirs safely now.

  2. Re:Disparaging members of other races? Hardly on Hacking the Governator · · Score: 1

    No the Puerto Rican Politician was the one who brought up the hot blooded thing. Arnold just said they were hot because they had black blood and latino blood.

    And I thought hot blooded means that you express your emotions openly whether it be love or anger.

  3. Re:racial stereotypes are not harmless on Hacking the Governator · · Score: 1

    Wow, so if I say black women are beautiful, I'm being racist because there are some black women out there that are unattractive and I'm generalising by not admitting that black women can be both attractive and unattractive?

    Come on dude. There are different races which have different attributes. Those attributes sometimes appeal to people. Has polical correctness gotten to the point where you can't even admit that different races exist? Even to compliment them?

    And you're being totally unfair. You are extrapolating that Arnold thinks only black people can do labour intensive jobs and only asian people can be scientists. You're the one thinking about that, not him. He simply said that cubans and puerto ricans are attractive.

  4. Re:Not "Hacking" on Hacking the Governator · · Score: 1

    The funny thing is, I do the exact same thing these guys did all the time. I'll be looking fo information on a product and get to an address like www.example.com/products/detail?id=34512 and I'll just delete the last part of it to get to www.example.com/products. If the site is well designed I get a listing of all of that company's products. Little did I know I was hacking their site.

    Hell, I could just slip up in copy and pasting to change http://speeches.gov.ca.gov/dir/speech?id=453 to http://speeches.gov.ca.gov/dir. I think when yout website can be "hacked" by a screw up in copy and pasting you really have some serious problems.

    This is quite a bit different from typing in "www.example.com/products/detail?id=34512;UPDATE Products SET product_info='I pwn joo!!!'". I would consider that pretty nefarious, even though it really shouldn't do anything if the site is properly built. But that's quite a bit different from doing the equivalant of 'cd ..' using HTTP.

  5. Re:How Much Space on Apple Announces iTunes 7, Movies, Set-Top Box · · Score: 1

    hell that isn't as bad as today I was looking at ups's and they all had numbers like up to 62 minutes of battery time. How the hell do they know what I'm plugging in to the thing? I can understand giving a number like 60 minutes to give a rough idea, but 62?

    yeah totally offtopic, whatever.

  6. Re:Caligulazation on Consumer Electronics Causing 'Death of Childhood'? · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I asked if you had conversations with people IN the third world, not FROM the third world. The people you spoke to have taken the tests, paid the bribes, sucked up to the right people and were allowed to join the aristocracy. They were allowed inside the walls. The really poor and downtroddden we keep outside of the walls. The people who are still in the third world and have no way of getting out have quite a different perspective.

    I have no sympathy for those who choose to use violence to accomplish their goals. I'm not arguing that we should. What I am arguing is that we are ignorant of the hardships that the people who prvide us with our clothes, our shoes, our cheap little electronic gizmos, our jewelry, our oil, and a whole lot of other things. These people are working for us. And they are working in terrible conditions. We are so wealthy yet most of our stuff is made in sweatshops. Why can't we just pay an extra two dollars for those running shoes so that the poor kid making them can eat a decent meal? would it really kill us to do that?

    But the system doesn't work that way does it? Well why don't we change the system? Well its just easier to leave things the way it is. Those poor pot-bellied african kids you see on tv late at night. Well just change the channel, problem solved.

    But those people are still out there, and they are tired of us using them for their resources and labour. If we don't care about the lives of the people that provide us with all our stuff, why should they care about the lives of our people in some office building?

    You seem pretty angry with Mohammad Attas and his comrades, but are you equally angry with the oil executive that makes a deal with a dictator that tortures and kills thousands of people a year? Or do you just pump the gas into your car and not worry about where it came from?

    Are you getting what I mean by us being disconnected from those that are providing us with most of our products? Let them eat freedom, right?

  7. Re:Caligulazation on Consumer Electronics Causing 'Death of Childhood'? · · Score: 1

    In fuedal times they had horses and oxen that did the work and they only needed a handful of operators. We may have more capital now than we had then, but there isn't any difference in the relationship between the rulers and the ones being ruled. Yes, how they control governments is more sophisticated now. And they outsource so that the sweatshops can't easily be connected back to them. But what we're talking about here is a more sophisticated form of feudalism, not a completely different system.

    How is being underemployed any different from just being poor? The amount of money you get at market for the stuff you farm isn't enough to cover the rent the feudal lord is charging you (so he can pay knights to defend you) plus living expenses, you are poor. Your manager doesn't pay you enough to cover the taxes your government demand (so they can pay soldiers to defend you) plus living expenses, you are underemployed. Yes, we've come a long way.

  8. Re:Caligulazation on Consumer Electronics Causing 'Death of Childhood'? · · Score: 1

    Why do I have to prove this. And besides, any such proof would depend on how the term peasant and aristocrat are defined and its pretty obvious I'm using a very loose definition here. Any argument down those lines will be purely pedantic.

    We know bandits existed in feudal times and terrorists exist today. Both groups want to improve their situation in immoral (some would say evil) ways. Aristocrats were ignorant of the peasants then and westerners are ignorant of the third world now.

  9. Re:Caligulazation on Consumer Electronics Causing 'Death of Childhood'? · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First, it's pretty apparent that Marie Antoinette never actually said that

    Where did I say she did? I used it because its a well known statement symboblising the disconnect between the ruling class and those being ruled over.

    Let me ask you this, how many people in the third world have you actually spoken to? How many deep conversations on their world views have you had?

    I have met people that support Osama bin Laden. These people were not in the middle east. They were not muslim. They were just people struggling to survive while watching fat Americans living a life of luxury. Just glad that the US got a taste of the hardship they have to deal with everyday.

    We seem to have this notion of the "noble poor". That they are well informed, liberal and free thinking. That they will engage in passive resistance to get fair treatment.

    Wake up. The poor are ignorant. What the hell do you expect, they don't get much of an education. They can barely survive. So yeah some of thier ideas are going to be backwards. But they do know they don't like things the way they are.

    Say you're a young muslim man. You can't find work. You look at globalisation is doing elsewhere in the world. Prostitution. Child labour. Slavery. And globalisation is now coming to your country. Your children will work in sweatshops and grow up to be prostitutes like everywhere else in the third world unless you can stop it. What are you going to do?

    You turn back to your traditions. The only education you have tells you about Muhammed conquering everywhere he went with the power of the Koran and Sharia law. It worked then maybe it can work now.

    So do they hate you for your freedoms? Well they see what "freedom" has brought the rest of the developing world and they hate that. And I can't say I blame them.

  10. Re:Caligulazation on Consumer Electronics Causing 'Death of Childhood'? · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We are not like aristocracy, we are aristocracy. Used to be the aristocrats lived within high walls and the peasants had to fend for themselves outside the walls. Now we have entire nations of aristocrats (thank you, globalisation) and the peasants have to fend for themselves in the third world.

    Used to be, on occasion, a peasant would scale the walls and steal from and maybe kill some aristocrats. Now they crash an airplane into an office building.

    Aristocracies collapse when they lose touch with the people they are supposed to rule over. "Let them eat cake", "They hate us for our freedom".

  11. Re:Back in my day on Consumer Electronics Causing 'Death of Childhood'? · · Score: 1

    Every generation has some aspect that is supposedly going to bring utter ruination to the future.

    Whenever I see that I always imagine a scene in ancient Rome:

    Roman #1: Kids these days are spoiled by their bread and circuses and their orgies. It'll be the ruin of us all I tell ya!

    Roman #2: Every generation has some aspect that is supposedly going to bring utter ruination to the future.

    Visigoths invade the city destroying everything.

    Roman #2: Oh... ummm... well I guess you were right about that.

    The point is, every generation complains about how the younger generation is going to ruin everything. Every now and then, they are right.

  12. Re:Uh, Jerry Fuckheimer? on Upcoming Game Movies And Their Likelihood to Suck · · Score: 1

    Yeah also in the same article the guy says the title executive producer doesn't mean much. Doesn't the executive producer just sit around and say stuff like "yeah I'd like to see a movie with a talking kangaroo" and "you know who'd be good in this? Ben Affleck!". Beyond that is there anything they do?

  13. Re:Just to add to this.... on Windows Monoculture Myopia Revisited · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But did MS add anything? MS didn't do anything to make GUIs popular, it was GUIs that made MS popular. If MS didn't exist GUIs would have still became popular, because that is what people want. If MS didn't exist we would still be using GUIs now, except we would be complaining about Apple computer's evil monopoly.

    MS didn't really do anything significant other than being in the right place at the right time, with the right contract with IBM.

  14. Re:End backward compatibility on Windows Monoculture Myopia Revisited · · Score: 1

    Yes, and since this new OS will be using New Technology they can call it "NT" for short.

  15. Re:Questions on MythTV 0.20 Released · · Score: 1

    You can set priorities like you describe on 0.19, so I assume the same is true for 0.20.

  16. Re:Own Goal on Bank Accounts of 5,000 UK Terror Suspects Tracked · · Score: 1

    and 87% of all statistics are made up.

    My mother participated in a survey where they asked if she liked the US or not. She said she disliked what the US was doing but didn't have anything agains the American people. But it was just a yes or no question, so she decided to answer that she disliked the US.

    By the time it got to the newspaper it read X% of canadians dislike Americans, the exact opposite of her opinion.

    It all depends on how the question is asked and interpreted. "Is Britain my country" could be interpreted to mean "Do I agree with the current government's foriegn policy?"

    Then you got issues with people who don't fully understand english. People who answer that they prefer sharia because they don't want to piss off Allah but pragmatically they'd rather live in a democratic country. And of course you always have people who answer in the most fucked up way just for shits and giggles.

    Here's some statistics for you: 15% of British Muslims lie to pollsters. 10% are not native english speakers and did not understand the question. 99.9% of muslims living in Britain prefer to live in Britain than living under sharia law. This is indicated by the fact that THEY ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN BRITAIN. Isn't that one totally fucking obvious? Did you think they live in Britain because they like torturing themselves or something?

    Your statistics are meaningless. You probably keep a link to them in your bookmarks so you can throw them in to these kinds of conversations, but anyone with any experience in being polled knows how useless they are. And as much satisfaction you get from that its totally fucking ridiculous.

  17. Re:abot on Nigeria Widows Lose Their Fortune · · Score: 1

    aboot means he's canadian.

    abot means he's illiterate.

  18. Re:not sad, just inevitable w/ the corporate syste on HP's Dunn as Newsweek Cover Girl · · Score: 1

    Yes but I'm sure no state tells corporations that they should break the law in pursuit of profits. These corporate assholes came up with that on their own. There is a line separating doing things for the benefit of your shareholders and screwing over everyone for money and they have just crossed it.

    A good amount of the law depends on intent. Do you honestly believe that these assholes are motivated by the wellbeing of their shareholders? Come on. They are just greedily grabbing whatever they can whenever they can and if anyone gets in their way they stomp them into the ground. The laws about maximising profits for shareholders are pretty moot at this point. These people are assholes, they will behave the same regardless of what the law says. This should be obvious to everyone now.

    And I agree that China is going to "win", but not for the reason you think. History has nothing to do with it. Our real problem is a general malaise that permeates our entire society. No one does anything to benefit their community, they only work to benefit themselves. Humans are at their strongest when they work together. We have lost that ability. I guess we think we don't need it anymore. It's been a while since we've faced any kind of hardship and we've forgotten how to survive, how to be strong. We've allowed ourselves to become weak. That is why we'll lose.

  19. Re:No, not gambling... on U.S. Arrests Online Gambling Company Chairman · · Score: 1

    It seems like the anti smoking rules make things worse. There used to be smoking rooms and smoking sections which were easily avoided if you're a non-smoker. Now all those are gone so now you have a whole bunch of smokers right at the entrance to every building where you can't avoid them. How is this better?

    And bars are all about engaging in vice. Drinking, smoking and womanizing. If you're afraid of these vices then don't go to bars.

  20. Re:But does it have a useable file-save dialogue? on GNOME 2.16 Released · · Score: 1

    Not really hidden very well, its right there on the view menu in nautilus. You don't want you're open file dialog cluttered with options you use very rarely. And if you're creating hidden files and directories you're supposed to know what you're doing.

  21. Re:candy on GNOME 2.16 Released · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what you're doing to get the behaviour that you describe. Paste is always available to me in nautilus. If I copy a bunch of files and select paste in gedit it inserts a list of the files I copied (separates by CRs not commas, but you can easily make a script to convert it). And where the hell are you getting the smart menus? I use Ubuntu as my primary OS at both home and work and I haven't seen them anywhere.

    Clicking on a file always opens it with the default app. You can right click and select properties to change the default app. You can open with something other than the default app by right clicking and selecting "open with".

    Yes there is the occasional dialog that you can't copy and paste from, and that should be fixed. But I'm just not seeing all the problems you're seeing. Maybe its some of the apps you're using? If someone makes an app that doesn't comply with gnome's UI guidelines there isn't much the gnome people can do about it.

    I use Ubuntu too so it really is a mystery to me why everything on my system is set to what you describe as your ideal setup by default, but its not working for you.

    The biggest problems with nautilus is that its a little slow (especially over the network) and if you are browsing a remote system with ssh, its extremely unstable. It would also be nice if it had a nice plugin for subversion similar to tortoise for windows explorer. But everything else is pretty much the way you want it.

  22. Re:An example on Boardroom Spying Debacle at HP · · Score: 1

    Haven't many Republicans criticised the Presidident's wiretapping program? Are these Republicans being partisan by criticizing the President?

    Criticizing Bush is not the same as supporting the Democrats. Therefore it is not being partisan.

  23. Re:What are CAPTCHAs really for? on Will Solve Captcha for Money? · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the CAPTCHA asks you "are you Sarah Connor?" you should answer "No." and quickly press the back button.

  24. Re:Since you ask, here's why: on Google Releases Tesseract as Open Source · · Score: 1

    Not really quite that bad. You whitelist everyone in your address book (and mailing lists you've subscribed to) so their messages go directly to your inbox without the challenge. The challenge is only for users that have never emailed you before. And the Dueling CR problem is solves by just automatically adding addresses you've sent mail to to your whitelist.

    I don't use CR, but I might consider it if spam gets any worse.

  25. Re:Liberty versus Libertine on Google to Give Data To Brazilian Court · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think you're over simplifying the issue here. Hate speech isn't something that hurts someone's feelings, its something that incites someone to commit a crime.

    "I hate niggers" is not hate speech. "black people deserve to be lynched" is hate speech. Do you see the difference there? Its not the words you use, its that you're encouraging racial violence.

    If you find homosexuals disgusting, its fine for you to say so. But when you start talking about committing a violent act you're crossing a line.

    You can still go ahead and hurt anyone's feelings you want. But if you encourage people to commit crimes, you can get yourself into trouble.