You do know that it was the left that made this off-shoring and bringing in H1-B visas popular, right? The whole idea of off-shoring was the idea that a rising tide raises all ships and that we'd be helping out impoverished people. Does that really sound like the right? No, the left instituted these policies, removed tariffs, and encouraged businesses to seek to help the poorer nations out. The right, and the greedy, of course completely bastardized this but they're not really the ones who started the mess.
No, Henry Ford paid what he paid because we were more migratory workers back then and he wanted to keep the workers from migrating to a different factory every month or two because it cost more money to train them. That they were able to buy his product (many weren't) is incidental and has nothing to do with this oft-trotted out line.
Funny, I mentioned a similar idea a couple of hours ago with regards to firewalling botnet or malware infested PCs to a limited use internet where they'd have access to tools to repair their computers.
It is "a lot" - "alot" is not a word.:-) I say that because I presume you to be an English as a Second Language speaker - not to be a jerk but to be helpful. I'd say that they should be allowed to engage in willful combat with one another, up to and including the use of weapons. They should have a declared and agreed upon outcome. If two people are willing to risk death and are of sound mind then they should be, in my opinion, able to act on their wishes without fear of legal repercussions. I admit, I'm a bit extreme in my love for the right of the individual to have freedom.
However, they should have an agreed on conclusion. The fight stops immediately when one person submits or a third party determines that the other is unable to consent to fight further. The fight stops immediately at the sight of blood. The fight stops immediately on incapacitation. The fight stops immediately at death. Any of those are acceptable to me so long a both parties are of sound mind when making the agreement.
As I said, I'm a bit extreme in my desire to allow the individual the right to make decisions about themselves and affecting only themselves.
*sighs* I wrote this rely, just for you. Yes, yes it is from within Lynx. Do you know how much of a pain it is to use Lynx on the net? I mean, sure, it's okay if you're just consuming stuff on really basic sites but, beyond that, it's really not a very good browser. Even commenting as an AC isn't all that easy. I like the idea but it's really not worth the effort.
I thought that MSFT could have done well, to the community and their bank account, by selling service packs for XP beyond SP3. SP3 was long enough, they supported it far and away beyond what they were obligated to do. I give them credit for that. I do think that they could have (and should have) then kept it on the back burner and continued security updates and maybe back-ported some features as options. For, say, $20 the user could get access to SP4 (which would include any security updates, etc) and then maybe for $50 they get three years of access or something like that. I am guessing that something similar will be the goal of Windows 10 if not just to acclimate users the idea of a more rolling release OS.
Secure boot can be turned off with Windows 10 shipped PCs if the OEM allows it. The enabling or disabling of such is now left to the OEM. Prior to the RTM for Win 10 the OEM was required to let the end-user disable secure boot. This has since changed. I know of no OEM (which doesn't mean much - I don't know them all) who has yet to ship a locked secure boot.
Ubuntu, that I am positive about and I believe the other major distros, can all can be installed with secure boot locked and enabled - they've got access to the appropriate keys AFAIK. They do seem to have some issues with installing dual-boot with this, I'm not sure why - something in the UEFI section is my thinking but I don't actually have any Windows 10 installs with which to test this and, being me, I'm inherently lazy.
Anyhow, so far, secure boot has been able to be disabled by anyone that I know of - I spend an inordinate amount of time at the AskUbuntu (part of StackExchange) site and on the official forums. I own two laptops that came with 10 installed but have not actually ever done more than push a couple of buttons with Windows 10 and not on my own equipment. The first thing I do is pop in a DVD drive, boot, and install Lubuntu, Debian, Mint, or Arch (if I'm feeling sadistic).
There is some chance that I'm missing something, a pretty good chance actually, but I'm not sure what it is that I'd be missing. While I have almost no personal experience with Windows 10, I do have lots of secondhand experience with the OS and, so far, I don't think I've met a single person who was hindered by secure boot in a manner that prevented them from installing an alternative operating system. At some point, I'll likely be more involved with the Lubuntu distro (it's looking pretty likely) which means I'll know more about this but, as of yet, I know of no major issues and, if they do occur, the blame will be at the feet of the OEM.
For some? Probably that there's no free upgrade path to 10 from Vista. For those, the OS just works and they probably don't have the chops to upgrade nor see why they should. We'll just end up with more zombies to work around. Hell, they'll probable be grateful that they needn't download the updates all the time and not realize that this makes them less secure.
Don't hate me but, I kind of liked Vista. I also liked ME.:/ I had a box that was designed for ME and ran ME nicely - it was pretty damned stable. Hell, it ran an OpenNap server hub (don't ask) and regularly had a few months of uptime - or more. So long as the hardware was quality, it was alright. Vista? Yeah, it was pretty crappy at first but SP1 rolled down the pipes and it was great.
This is coming from a guy who uses Linux. Hell, I exclusively use Linux now, on my computers. (I've got a Windows phone being shipped to me from back home. I do own an iPod somewhere and I have VM images for a bunch of OSes.) Oh, I might still technically own a MBP but I'm thinking my daughter absconded with it when she last visited. I'm pretty sure I got a kiss on the cheek and a, "Thanks Daddy!" I can't swear to it. It seems likely, history and all that.
Incidentally, the ME box was my first run in with AMD. I'd simply never tried them before. It was also a "cheap" computer from a company that I'd never used before. It was Acer with an AMD K6-II 350 MHz that I OCed to run at just below 500 MHz. It was awesome, thanks.
I am one of those people who was irked by the increased number, and duration, of commercials. I was never a big fan of television prior to that. I haven't really watched much television at all since that time. (I seem to recall it being a bit sooner but I'll take your word for it.) The internet is lovely for me. I watch documentaries almost exclusively (though I will go see a movie once in a while). Watching them, sans commercials, is excellent and there are some nice documentaries made today. I don't watch to learn and any learning is coincidental. They're entertainment for me. It's why I can recount a bunch of history and science but not know the names, all the places, or even the exact dates.
I've been saying this for years. If you're exhibiting signs of malicious activity that indicates an infection then you get firewalled from the 'net in general but have access to the tools to repair it.
Then maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't own a computer. I know, I know... It's a horrible thought that people would be better served by knowing how to properly use the tools they own.
My IQ testing scores indicate that I'd, almost certainly, qualify for Mensa. The amusing thing is, I'm really not all that smart. I just test really well. Not long after I've stopped doing something, I've forgotten it. If I cram, I can probably pass any test given to me. I'd wager on a passing score for any test where I can see the practice exams and have 72 hours to prepare with the test. I don't even care if it's a long test.
She has a nice voice. I'm not sure that I like the music but it could grow on me.
I was watching old versions of The Computer Chronicles. It's funny. The machines needed to make those effects were tens of thousands of dollars back in the day. Today, those are sub-par graphics that a child could make on their tablet. I'm not sure that the ease has meant an improvement in the art.
Anyhow, I'd never heard of her. I'll give a few more of her songs a try. I don't even recall her getting radio play back then. If she did then I missed it.
I can agree. And, yeah, so long as there's no prize money - I think it's legal??? So long as you're consenting and of sound enough mind to do so. Even if you killed your opponent, you might not go to prison? I'm not really sure - I'd think you should be okay but we've got jury trials and passionate people with things other than the rule of law as their priority. I'd probably not want to risk it by ensuring that I stop when required or requested.
I also know that/. users can be a bit... picky... Yes, picky. And attentive. "There are three full polygons that are slightly off color, take up a 9 square pixel space, and stays on the screen for 0.42 seconds! This is an outrage!" I could see it... But yeah, I was kind of figuring that there was some drama involved but I don't game and I've been hearing this a lot, more so over the years. I'm assuming that there's some kernel of truth to it - even if it's out of proportion.
I didn't see a price for it. I'd seriously consider buying something like that just for shits and giggles. I'm not home to take delivery but I may look into this later when I am going back in that direction (maybe not until the end of winter). You should let the Lubuntu folks know that you're running it. I hang out with a few of them in chat and on AskUbuntu (or the official Ubuntu site) so I can probably dig up a contact address if you need it. That is most awesome!
The responsible aren't the ones who control the markets, it seems. While I tend to agree with you, there are limits to what one can do and buying local isn't always an option unless you're willing to go without. Far to few people even care about buying local. And they wonder why the economy is depressed and where the jobs have gone. They demanded cheaper while refusing to work for less. They got cheaper and now they seem to be on a downward spiral to the point where they'll have even fewer jobs. I'm retired so, to me, it's just a show. I can, at least, insulate myself and my family from it. Unfortunately, a lot of others are not in that position.
Actually, I'd buy one if I could. I've seen individuals that have them out at "machine gun shoots" and a few have tanks and stuff. I don't actually know quite how one goes about getting them or what kind of licensing is required to own one that is functional. So, I'm sure that it's somehow technically possible for me to own one (I have no felony convictions). I'm pretty sure I'm going to need some sort of additional class of license than I currently have. I'm thinking those are probably classed as destructive devices or similar.
The guy that I responded to is talking about scientists reading his brain. I'm pretty sure that's a targeted attack.:/ Unless he's picturing giant rays of mind reading beams. I'm pretty sure he's talking about the one where they put the electrodes on your skull and monitor the output. I seem to recall this being theoretically possible according to a Slashdot post a few years (maybe) back.
I would say you're less 'passionate' than the F/OSS zealots who are less passionate than the gamer platform (console, which console, and PC - Macs aren't even on this list, really) goobers. So, there's that. I mean, you do go out of your way to minimize every security issue and seem inclined to think Mac users are as technical as you (they're not - trust me on this one). You, at least, admit it's not infallible and don't seem to worship Steve Jobs (maybe Woz).
So, yeah. You're definitely not quite that passionate. It might take some work to get you to admit that such existed if a true virus came around and impacted the OS. I'd expect a lot of straight up denial, trying to figure out a defense on their behalf, and maybe some overlooking or minimizing. I mean, yeah, we're all humans. I'll straight up stab a bit over blueberries. Heaven forbid, don't leave me alone with a big red button that says do not push.
As an aside, someone pointed out that I can get the kids Scholastic gift cards now. I am having a teacher find out the information for me. The book stores all closed and I'm not going to subject the children to Amazon no matter how much I want them to read. Hopefully, this can be done by Christmas break. *sighs* It doesn't look like I'll be going home this winter, at all. For better or worse, I've got a female to attend to. I'm not sure how one ends up with a cute female that's nearly forty years their junior but I can't complain - she's not even all that high maintenance. She just has a gift of gab (I'm used to being alone as of late) and a million and three questions. Constantly.
I hope that's a generic you and not a you that refers to me.;-) No, I recognize that a lot happened because of space. I'm not sure where the revisionist history comes from but, as near as I can tell, it's some crazy Russian or something. They were twisting the NASA method into it being socialist even though, you know, NASA made jack shit and everything was contracted out to the lowest but best bidder. The strange part is that people were agreeing with the poster.:/ I don't get it.
That's what I'm thinking. I need something that can push and, maybe, compress video and sound. It's probably also going to have storage attached to record something like snapshots at 3 second intervals or the likes. I don't want to "make do" with something. I want to just make it, learn about it, and forget about it - until I need to repair or update and realize that I should have followed good documentation methods. Then, I'll learn it, fix it, and forget about it! Seems pretty good to me.
I think I might get one, then. Thanks. This would be an area where there some maths - I posted as an AC earlier. My VPN is still being screwy so I just logged out.
It'll give me an excuse to brush up on my C and learn about the whole RFID methods. I've been meaning to do both for a while now. If you're curious or inclined to opine the AC post is above. I identify myself.
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You do know that it was the left that made this off-shoring and bringing in H1-B visas popular, right? The whole idea of off-shoring was the idea that a rising tide raises all ships and that we'd be helping out impoverished people. Does that really sound like the right? No, the left instituted these policies, removed tariffs, and encouraged businesses to seek to help the poorer nations out. The right, and the greedy, of course completely bastardized this but they're not really the ones who started the mess.
No, Henry Ford paid what he paid because we were more migratory workers back then and he wanted to keep the workers from migrating to a different factory every month or two because it cost more money to train them. That they were able to buy his product (many weren't) is incidental and has nothing to do with this oft-trotted out line.
Funny, I mentioned a similar idea a couple of hours ago with regards to firewalling botnet or malware infested PCs to a limited use internet where they'd have access to tools to repair their computers.
It is "a lot" - "alot" is not a word. :-) I say that because I presume you to be an English as a Second Language speaker - not to be a jerk but to be helpful. I'd say that they should be allowed to engage in willful combat with one another, up to and including the use of weapons. They should have a declared and agreed upon outcome. If two people are willing to risk death and are of sound mind then they should be, in my opinion, able to act on their wishes without fear of legal repercussions. I admit, I'm a bit extreme in my love for the right of the individual to have freedom.
However, they should have an agreed on conclusion. The fight stops immediately when one person submits or a third party determines that the other is unable to consent to fight further. The fight stops immediately at the sight of blood. The fight stops immediately on incapacitation. The fight stops immediately at death. Any of those are acceptable to me so long a both parties are of sound mind when making the agreement.
As I said, I'm a bit extreme in my desire to allow the individual the right to make decisions about themselves and affecting only themselves.
*sighs* I wrote this rely, just for you. Yes, yes it is from within Lynx. Do you know how much of a pain it is to use Lynx on the net? I mean, sure, it's okay if you're just consuming stuff on really basic sites but, beyond that, it's really not a very good browser. Even commenting as an AC isn't all that easy. I like the idea but it's really not worth the effort.
I thought that MSFT could have done well, to the community and their bank account, by selling service packs for XP beyond SP3. SP3 was long enough, they supported it far and away beyond what they were obligated to do. I give them credit for that. I do think that they could have (and should have) then kept it on the back burner and continued security updates and maybe back-ported some features as options. For, say, $20 the user could get access to SP4 (which would include any security updates, etc) and then maybe for $50 they get three years of access or something like that. I am guessing that something similar will be the goal of Windows 10 if not just to acclimate users the idea of a more rolling release OS.
Nice find. Pity, I've already commented in this thread. I have mod points, I don't normally use them but I'd have made an exception.
Secure boot can be turned off with Windows 10 shipped PCs if the OEM allows it. The enabling or disabling of such is now left to the OEM. Prior to the RTM for Win 10 the OEM was required to let the end-user disable secure boot. This has since changed. I know of no OEM (which doesn't mean much - I don't know them all) who has yet to ship a locked secure boot.
Ubuntu, that I am positive about and I believe the other major distros, can all can be installed with secure boot locked and enabled - they've got access to the appropriate keys AFAIK. They do seem to have some issues with installing dual-boot with this, I'm not sure why - something in the UEFI section is my thinking but I don't actually have any Windows 10 installs with which to test this and, being me, I'm inherently lazy.
Anyhow, so far, secure boot has been able to be disabled by anyone that I know of - I spend an inordinate amount of time at the AskUbuntu (part of StackExchange) site and on the official forums. I own two laptops that came with 10 installed but have not actually ever done more than push a couple of buttons with Windows 10 and not on my own equipment. The first thing I do is pop in a DVD drive, boot, and install Lubuntu, Debian, Mint, or Arch (if I'm feeling sadistic).
There is some chance that I'm missing something, a pretty good chance actually, but I'm not sure what it is that I'd be missing. While I have almost no personal experience with Windows 10, I do have lots of secondhand experience with the OS and, so far, I don't think I've met a single person who was hindered by secure boot in a manner that prevented them from installing an alternative operating system. At some point, I'll likely be more involved with the Lubuntu distro (it's looking pretty likely) which means I'll know more about this but, as of yet, I know of no major issues and, if they do occur, the blame will be at the feet of the OEM.
For some? Probably that there's no free upgrade path to 10 from Vista. For those, the OS just works and they probably don't have the chops to upgrade nor see why they should. We'll just end up with more zombies to work around. Hell, they'll probable be grateful that they needn't download the updates all the time and not realize that this makes them less secure.
Don't hate me but, I kind of liked Vista. I also liked ME. :/ I had a box that was designed for ME and ran ME nicely - it was pretty damned stable. Hell, it ran an OpenNap server hub (don't ask) and regularly had a few months of uptime - or more. So long as the hardware was quality, it was alright. Vista? Yeah, it was pretty crappy at first but SP1 rolled down the pipes and it was great.
This is coming from a guy who uses Linux. Hell, I exclusively use Linux now, on my computers. (I've got a Windows phone being shipped to me from back home. I do own an iPod somewhere and I have VM images for a bunch of OSes.) Oh, I might still technically own a MBP but I'm thinking my daughter absconded with it when she last visited. I'm pretty sure I got a kiss on the cheek and a, "Thanks Daddy!" I can't swear to it. It seems likely, history and all that.
Incidentally, the ME box was my first run in with AMD. I'd simply never tried them before. It was also a "cheap" computer from a company that I'd never used before. It was Acer with an AMD K6-II 350 MHz that I OCed to run at just below 500 MHz. It was awesome, thanks.
I am one of those people who was irked by the increased number, and duration, of commercials. I was never a big fan of television prior to that. I haven't really watched much television at all since that time. (I seem to recall it being a bit sooner but I'll take your word for it.) The internet is lovely for me. I watch documentaries almost exclusively (though I will go see a movie once in a while). Watching them, sans commercials, is excellent and there are some nice documentaries made today. I don't watch to learn and any learning is coincidental. They're entertainment for me. It's why I can recount a bunch of history and science but not know the names, all the places, or even the exact dates.
I've been saying this for years. If you're exhibiting signs of malicious activity that indicates an infection then you get firewalled from the 'net in general but have access to the tools to repair it.
Then maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't own a computer. I know, I know... It's a horrible thought that people would be better served by knowing how to properly use the tools they own.
My IQ testing scores indicate that I'd, almost certainly, qualify for Mensa. The amusing thing is, I'm really not all that smart. I just test really well. Not long after I've stopped doing something, I've forgotten it. If I cram, I can probably pass any test given to me. I'd wager on a passing score for any test where I can see the practice exams and have 72 hours to prepare with the test. I don't even care if it's a long test.
She has a nice voice. I'm not sure that I like the music but it could grow on me.
I was watching old versions of The Computer Chronicles. It's funny. The machines needed to make those effects were tens of thousands of dollars back in the day. Today, those are sub-par graphics that a child could make on their tablet. I'm not sure that the ease has meant an improvement in the art.
Anyhow, I'd never heard of her. I'll give a few more of her songs a try. I don't even recall her getting radio play back then. If she did then I missed it.
I can agree. And, yeah, so long as there's no prize money - I think it's legal??? So long as you're consenting and of sound enough mind to do so. Even if you killed your opponent, you might not go to prison? I'm not really sure - I'd think you should be okay but we've got jury trials and passionate people with things other than the rule of law as their priority. I'd probably not want to risk it by ensuring that I stop when required or requested.
I also know that /. users can be a bit... picky... Yes, picky. And attentive. "There are three full polygons that are slightly off color, take up a 9 square pixel space, and stays on the screen for 0.42 seconds! This is an outrage!" I could see it... But yeah, I was kind of figuring that there was some drama involved but I don't game and I've been hearing this a lot, more so over the years. I'm assuming that there's some kernel of truth to it - even if it's out of proportion.
I didn't see a price for it. I'd seriously consider buying something like that just for shits and giggles. I'm not home to take delivery but I may look into this later when I am going back in that direction (maybe not until the end of winter). You should let the Lubuntu folks know that you're running it. I hang out with a few of them in chat and on AskUbuntu (or the official Ubuntu site) so I can probably dig up a contact address if you need it. That is most awesome!
The responsible aren't the ones who control the markets, it seems. While I tend to agree with you, there are limits to what one can do and buying local isn't always an option unless you're willing to go without. Far to few people even care about buying local. And they wonder why the economy is depressed and where the jobs have gone. They demanded cheaper while refusing to work for less. They got cheaper and now they seem to be on a downward spiral to the point where they'll have even fewer jobs. I'm retired so, to me, it's just a show. I can, at least, insulate myself and my family from it. Unfortunately, a lot of others are not in that position.
Only because I don't have room for three!
Actually, I'd buy one if I could. I've seen individuals that have them out at "machine gun shoots" and a few have tanks and stuff. I don't actually know quite how one goes about getting them or what kind of licensing is required to own one that is functional. So, I'm sure that it's somehow technically possible for me to own one (I have no felony convictions). I'm pretty sure I'm going to need some sort of additional class of license than I currently have. I'm thinking those are probably classed as destructive devices or similar.
With a name like that, how can you not want two?
The guy that I responded to is talking about scientists reading his brain. I'm pretty sure that's a targeted attack. :/ Unless he's picturing giant rays of mind reading beams. I'm pretty sure he's talking about the one where they put the electrodes on your skull and monitor the output. I seem to recall this being theoretically possible according to a Slashdot post a few years (maybe) back.
I would say you're less 'passionate' than the F/OSS zealots who are less passionate than the gamer platform (console, which console, and PC - Macs aren't even on this list, really) goobers. So, there's that. I mean, you do go out of your way to minimize every security issue and seem inclined to think Mac users are as technical as you (they're not - trust me on this one). You, at least, admit it's not infallible and don't seem to worship Steve Jobs (maybe Woz).
So, yeah. You're definitely not quite that passionate. It might take some work to get you to admit that such existed if a true virus came around and impacted the OS. I'd expect a lot of straight up denial, trying to figure out a defense on their behalf, and maybe some overlooking or minimizing. I mean, yeah, we're all humans. I'll straight up stab a bit over blueberries. Heaven forbid, don't leave me alone with a big red button that says do not push.
As an aside, someone pointed out that I can get the kids Scholastic gift cards now. I am having a teacher find out the information for me. The book stores all closed and I'm not going to subject the children to Amazon no matter how much I want them to read. Hopefully, this can be done by Christmas break. *sighs* It doesn't look like I'll be going home this winter, at all. For better or worse, I've got a female to attend to. I'm not sure how one ends up with a cute female that's nearly forty years their junior but I can't complain - she's not even all that high maintenance. She just has a gift of gab (I'm used to being alone as of late) and a million and three questions. Constantly.
I hope that's a generic you and not a you that refers to me. ;-) No, I recognize that a lot happened because of space. I'm not sure where the revisionist history comes from but, as near as I can tell, it's some crazy Russian or something. They were twisting the NASA method into it being socialist even though, you know, NASA made jack shit and everything was contracted out to the lowest but best bidder. The strange part is that people were agreeing with the poster. :/ I don't get it.
That's what I'm thinking. I need something that can push and, maybe, compress video and sound. It's probably also going to have storage attached to record something like snapshots at 3 second intervals or the likes. I don't want to "make do" with something. I want to just make it, learn about it, and forget about it - until I need to repair or update and realize that I should have followed good documentation methods. Then, I'll learn it, fix it, and forget about it! Seems pretty good to me.
I think I might get one, then. Thanks. This would be an area where there some maths - I posted as an AC earlier. My VPN is still being screwy so I just logged out.
It'll give me an excuse to brush up on my C and learn about the whole RFID methods. I've been meaning to do both for a while now. If you're curious or inclined to opine the AC post is above. I identify myself.