I'm not asking where are the parents in paying the bill. I'm asking where is their guidance? When a fresh out of high-school kid goes and gets him/herself into 100s of thousands of debt for a degree that is pretty obviously not in demand I have to wonder.. where the hell are their parents and why aren't they kicking their kids in the ass?!?!
Actually.. the parents probably have to co-sign for those loans. You can argue that the students are too inexperienced to know better. I don't know why.. I sure knew enough basic arithmetic at far younger than that to realize it was a bad idea. But... how about a little tough love from the adults?
You shouldn't buy anything if you don't have a good idea how you are going to pay for it. If you can afford to buy an education just for the benefit of having one then fine.. more power to you! For most of us that is too much money to spend unless it is an investment towards a future career that can pay for it. That is why a university degree is for career building and not for personal development.
Maybe if people actually looked at the cost of their degree and made responsible economic decisions about how far they are willing to go into debt and what they can expect to make afterwards the demand for non-career building degrees would fall. Maybe then the price would fall until a person could afford to get it just because they are inerested.
"Unless of course, you think that only the wealthy should be able to learn anything about art history..."
No. I think in todays internet enabled age anybody can make themselves an expert in anything if they are willing to do the work. If you want to know about art history... go find out about it! I don't think you are entitled to having someone prepare and teach a series of classes for you just because you want it!
This could be an opportunity to take swatting to a whole new level. I can just imagine gamer kidies dressing up as ISIS and taking selfies in front of their opponents houses now.
One refers to a people, the other refers to a place. Immigrants to the West from the middle east don't kill each other very often based on their ancestor's tribal conflicts.
Children who are raised inside all that BS and never make it out... well.. a few of them will eventually act on it. And.. it doesn't take many to ruin a neighborhood.
Surely there is a body somewhere that will one day be discovered by someone who isn't careful. Maybe somebody died in a strange place and hasn't been found yet. Or a sick murder victim. Or maybe somebody will dig up a grave that just doesn't know any better.
If we assume the virus is extinct forever and so don't immunize against it how far will it spread when this happens?
Well, when you learn to read yourself you can go back to the start of this thread and see that I was replying to someone who said that Google was being evil. You seem to be supporting that person's comment. I don't see how they can be evil (in regards to this report) unless they somehow owe the world all that information so I am aksing why they owe it.
It seems to me that they should hire the best applicants that apply (as best as they can determine that) and it's really nobody else's business.
Most will die quickly without a host to reproduce in. I do know that.
But... a small number will not. I certainly don't believe that every place a smallpox victim has been or every gravesite where one was buried still contains viri. But there were a lot of hosts before it was 'exterminated'. I do think it's probably out there somewhere.
Except that now you are talking about a very expensive and difficult report to create. You would end up creating a team of people whose sole job is to collect, organize and report this information while providing no benefit back to Google. Why do you feel Google owes this to you? Sorry, not doing that does not make them evil.
I'm skeptical it can even be done at all. So it's said that smallpox is gone. But.. it's just too big of a big world.
Besides the know laboratories there has to be somewhere that some viri have somehow managed to be preserved. Maybe a vial that has long since lost it's label, now stuck in an attic or basement waiting to be sold with a pile of antiques. Maybe it's in a body that has managed to be burried in just the perfect environment to preserve it. Maybe it's in a stain on some old antique, totally not obvious by site after decades of just sitting there that it's source was a bodily fluid.
Wherever it is it's only a matter of time before someone wakes it up.
They aren't testing the true capabilities of the airport screeners. If they sent there fake weapons through taped to the crotches of young children and elderly grandmothers they would see the agents really shine.
I wouldn't bother. Just use QEMU. It's slower but it works.
I don't think proprietary software is worthwile on Linux. No, I'm not an RMS type that would completely boycott proprietary anything on philosphical grounds. It's just that my experience is that if I can't compile it from source on Linux it sucks.
First... you have to be running the same distro as the author or.. no support and maybe a 40% chance it will even work.
Ok, for the Pi everything is probably Raspbian so that might not be a problem.
But.. a year later... it doesn't work if you download any updates because it is dependant on some old library version or the distro has moved some file or something like that.
If you get source code... just recompile and it works. You get about 5 years before Linux has changed too much to use that same source code without modification.
Get a community to maintain the source code... it's more like 25 years.
Now.. proprietary software on Windows.. 10 to 20 years before you can't use it anymore.
"Because it's both insanely expensive as well as utterly pointless."
So the greatest aspiration of humanity should be to get fat sitting in a chair observing the universe from afar? Why not just go extinct imediately? What's the point?
If we aren't moving towards a future then what's the point of the present?
Really? Rovers can dig under the surface better? Citation needed!
Rovers have brought us some great information but now we are hitting the limits of what they can do and all we are getting in re-runs of the same great discoveries.
Robot scratched the surface of a rock.. found evidence of ancient water. Robot sampled surface soil... found products of broken down organics. It was news years ago. And yet it's still all we hear today.
Robot digs some feet down and finds things that haven't been sterilized by UV... Nope... not happening.
Sure, Tang is cool I guess. I am a bit more excited about microwave ovens, better integrated circuits which enabled personal computers and important things like that which came out of the Apollo program but hey.. if Tang is what floats your boat then whatever.
"Yeah! Because we just left the ISS floating around up there doing nothing sciencey for YEARS before somebody said "let's try to grow some plants!" "
No but it hasn't been doing the "sciency stuff" it was supposed to. It was sold to the public as a development platform to develop the technologies needed to live for long periods in space. That's what NASA said they were going to do anyway.
Growing plants in zero G being a great example of this as they provide food and oxygen. What it has been used for however is to give private companies a taxpayer funded zero G labratory to study how various crystals form and other chemical reactions without the influence of gravity.
Don't get me wrong.. there are some great material science and drug applications there but the goal of developing tech for living beyond the Earth seems to have been mostly forgotten since the thing was launched.
"Even at our current growth rate there's not enough for everyone. Not enough food,"
BS! There is plenty of food. What there isn't is a decent distribution system. More than enough to feed the starving is constantly being thrown away because it is too expensive to ship or it's genes are patented and stuff like that.
We have all sorts of spinoff technologies from the manned space program. It was hardly useless.
What scientifically USEFULL information are those robots providing? If nobody is going there we aren't actually USING that information are we?
Don't get me wrong.. I do value information simply for the sake of knowing about the universe we live in. I don't want to see the robotic progams ended completely. We should always be sending a probe or two out beyond the reaches of our farthest manned program. Keep the discoveries coming!
But.. how many more reports of 'Amazing new evidence found that Mars was once warmer and wetter' do we really need? When do we get someone up there with a shovel to look beneath the sun-sterilized surface? When do we get actual permanent habitats anywhere outside of Earth?
We don't even seem to be even working towards this kind of goal anymore. How about some balance between information for the sake of enlightenment vs hard tangible, practical goals?
Look how many years we supported the ISS before anyone even tried to grow a plant in it? WTF? Isn't that the kind of resarch it was supposed to be for?
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Um... no.
I'm not asking where are the parents in paying the bill. I'm asking where is their guidance? When a fresh out of high-school kid goes and gets him/herself into 100s of thousands of debt for a degree that is pretty obviously not in demand I have to wonder.. where the hell are their parents and why aren't they kicking their kids in the ass?!?!
Actually.. the parents probably have to co-sign for those loans. You can argue that the students are too inexperienced to know better. I don't know why.. I sure knew enough basic arithmetic at far younger than that to realize it was a bad idea. But... how about a little tough love from the adults?
Where are the parents?
You shouldn't buy anything if you don't have a good idea how you are going to pay for it. If you can afford to buy an education just for the benefit of having one then fine.. more power to you! For most of us that is too much money to spend unless it is an investment towards a future career that can pay for it. That is why a university degree is for career building and not for personal development.
Maybe if people actually looked at the cost of their degree and made responsible economic decisions about how far they are willing to go into debt and what they can expect to make afterwards the demand for non-career building degrees would fall. Maybe then the price would fall until a person could afford to get it just because they are inerested.
"Unless of course, you think that only the wealthy should be able to learn anything about art history..."
No. I think in todays internet enabled age anybody can make themselves an expert in anything if they are willing to do the work. If you want to know about art history... go find out about it! I don't think you are entitled to having someone prepare and teach a series of classes for you just because you want it!
This could be an opportunity to take swatting to a whole new level. I can just imagine gamer kidies dressing up as ISIS and taking selfies in front of their opponents houses now.
One refers to a people, the other refers to a place. Immigrants to the West from the middle east don't kill each other very often based on their ancestor's tribal conflicts.
Children who are raised inside all that BS and never make it out... well.. a few of them will eventually act on it. And.. it doesn't take many to ruin a neighborhood.
Exactly!
Surely there is a body somewhere that will one day be discovered by someone who isn't careful. Maybe somebody died in a strange place and hasn't been found yet. Or a sick murder victim. Or maybe somebody will dig up a grave that just doesn't know any better.
If we assume the virus is extinct forever and so don't immunize against it how far will it spread when this happens?
Well, when you learn to read yourself you can go back to the start of this thread and see that I was replying to someone who said that Google was being evil. You seem to be supporting that person's comment. I don't see how they can be evil (in regards to this report) unless they somehow owe the world all that information so I am aksing why they owe it.
It seems to me that they should hire the best applicants that apply (as best as they can determine that) and it's really nobody else's business.
He only said that the guy deserves it. I think we all agree with that. He didn't say that it was a good law.
Most will die quickly without a host to reproduce in. I do know that.
But... a small number will not. I certainly don't believe that every place a smallpox victim has been or every gravesite where one was buried still contains viri. But there were a lot of hosts before it was 'exterminated'. I do think it's probably out there somewhere.
Except that now you are talking about a very expensive and difficult report to create. You would end up creating a team of people whose sole job is to collect, organize and report this information while providing no benefit back to Google. Why do you feel Google owes this to you? Sorry, not doing that does not make them evil.
That's pretty dumb. Comparing a virus to macroscopic animals.
I'm skeptical it can even be done at all. So it's said that smallpox is gone. But.. it's just too big of a big world.
Besides the know laboratories there has to be somewhere that some viri have somehow managed to be preserved. Maybe a vial that has long since lost it's label, now stuck in an attic or basement waiting to be sold with a pile of antiques. Maybe it's in a body that has managed to be burried in just the perfect environment to preserve it. Maybe it's in a stain on some old antique, totally not obvious by site after decades of just sitting there that it's source was a bodily fluid.
Wherever it is it's only a matter of time before someone wakes it up.
"Google is being evil here"
Uh, Yah... they are being real evil.
They should fire a bunch of white people and hire a bunch of non-white people based solely on the color of their skin.
That would make them not evil.
They aren't testing the true capabilities of the airport screeners. If they sent there fake weapons through taped to the crotches of young children and elderly grandmothers they would see the agents really shine.
I wouldn't bother. Just use QEMU. It's slower but it works.
I don't think proprietary software is worthwile on Linux. No, I'm not an RMS type that would completely boycott proprietary anything on philosphical grounds. It's just that my experience is that if I can't compile it from source on Linux it sucks.
First... you have to be running the same distro as the author or.. no support and maybe a 40% chance it will even work.
Ok, for the Pi everything is probably Raspbian so that might not be a problem.
But.. a year later... it doesn't work if you download any updates because it is dependant on some old library version or the distro has moved some file or something like that.
If you get source code... just recompile and it works. You get about 5 years before Linux has changed too much to use that same source code without modification.
Get a community to maintain the source code... it's more like 25 years.
Now.. proprietary software on Windows.. 10 to 20 years before you can't use it anymore.
ln -s /dev/null beacon.csv
"Because it's both insanely expensive as well as utterly pointless."
So the greatest aspiration of humanity should be to get fat sitting in a chair observing the universe from afar? Why not just go extinct imediately? What's the point?
If we aren't moving towards a future then what's the point of the present?
I like the way that kid thinks!
Really? Rovers can dig under the surface better? Citation needed!
Rovers have brought us some great information but now we are hitting the limits of what they can do and all we are getting in re-runs of the same great discoveries.
Robot scratched the surface of a rock.. found evidence of ancient water. Robot sampled surface soil... found products of broken down organics. It was news years ago. And yet it's still all we hear today.
Robot digs some feet down and finds things that haven't been sterilized by UV... Nope... not happening.
Sure, Tang is cool I guess. I am a bit more excited about microwave ovens, better integrated circuits which enabled personal computers and important things like that which came out of the Apollo program but hey.. if Tang is what floats your boat then whatever.
"Yeah! Because we just left the ISS floating around up there doing nothing sciencey for YEARS before somebody said "let's try to grow some plants!" "
No but it hasn't been doing the "sciency stuff" it was supposed to. It was sold to the public as a development platform to develop the technologies needed to live for long periods in space. That's what NASA said they were going to do anyway.
Growing plants in zero G being a great example of this as they provide food and oxygen. What it has been used for however is to give private companies a taxpayer funded zero G labratory to study how various crystals form and other chemical reactions without the influence of gravity.
Don't get me wrong.. there are some great material science and drug applications there but the goal of developing tech for living beyond the Earth seems to have been mostly forgotten since the thing was launched.
" ...only the really old live, then we run out of viable sperm and eggs in a few generations"
I would think that a man who's aging has been reversed would continue to produce viable sperm. Eggs... well.. that could be a problem.
"Even at our current growth rate there's not enough for everyone. Not enough food,"
BS! There is plenty of food. What there isn't is a decent distribution system. More than enough to feed the starving is constantly being thrown away because it is too expensive to ship or it's genes are patented and stuff like that.
We have all sorts of spinoff technologies from the manned space program. It was hardly useless.
What scientifically USEFULL information are those robots providing? If nobody is going there we aren't actually USING that information are we?
Don't get me wrong.. I do value information simply for the sake of knowing about the universe we live in. I don't want to see the robotic progams ended completely. We should always be sending a probe or two out beyond the reaches of our farthest manned program. Keep the discoveries coming!
But.. how many more reports of 'Amazing new evidence found that Mars was once warmer and wetter' do we really need? When do we get someone up there with a shovel to look beneath the sun-sterilized surface? When do we get actual permanent habitats anywhere outside of Earth?
We don't even seem to be even working towards this kind of goal anymore. How about some balance between information for the sake of enlightenment vs hard tangible, practical goals?
Look how many years we supported the ISS before anyone even tried to grow a plant in it? WTF? Isn't that the kind of resarch it was supposed to be for?
Doesn't matter to me. I only pay taxes in one nation. I only get to vote in one nation.
Not that I can really do anything about my own nation doing jack shit for 40 years but I can do even less regarding all the others!
Why bother. Would the other guy have done better?