I guess this answers our question, the only conservatives that can support this are the ones that think we shouldn't care about the loss of our liberties or that they can accurately compare the leader of the "free world" with the instigator of the holocaust.
More important than that, is anyone willing to do something about rulings like this other than bitch about them on Slashdot?
I'm not flaming, that too, is a serious question.
Yknow, those pods from the Matrix sure do look comfy.
I know it isn't steak, but if it tastes like steak, who cares?
Think about your reaction to that movie before you dismiss the loss of your freedoms, if you were outraged at the loss of the human race, think of this as the start of the slippery slope.
I should really make this more comprehensive but I'm on vacation and can't be bothered.
In short. The President can only obtain Emergency Powers for a limited amount of time to respond militarily to an imediate threat. While I cannot remember off the top of my head what period of time this is, it is not, as most of our laws are, ambiguous. Congress has to authorize any further actions, including a declaration of war (which has not happened since either World War 2 or the Korean war, Congress simply gave the president authority to execute Vietnam and other conflicts through other "enabling" acts, such as the one preceding the Iraq war.) Anyways, just because Bush puts his legacy on the line for what he believes it (in my opinion his "legacy" will be more infamy than anything else, but time will tell) doesn't mean he is right about anything. I am sure that Saddam Hussein firmly believes in his dictatorship and the 9/11 hijackers firmly believed in their cause as well. The fact is, an enemy of any liberty is an enemy of the United States, and George Bush has done more than any President in the history of this nation to destroy the freedoms essential to the ideals of this country.
If you think that about HL2 you must've just played Lost Coast (which IS a technology demonstrator). The REAL HL2 story and game were amazing, and it remains alongside HL1 the only single player game I will still play through after beating about 5 times.
How about we do something about it besides voting, I don't know what yet but we need to organize a way to fight this in the (likely) case that elections get us nowhere.
Excuse me if I'm wrong, and I don't mean offense because its a general comment and I'm guilty too, but I don't see you or me or anyone else who is complaining about it on slashdot doing anything about it that the government could see and care about. The US Government is only too happy to let its people complain in a private forum so long as it doesn't get any publicity and the only publicity rights violations get from the media is either neutral or positive. We need to get out there and start doing something, so who's gonna be the brave one to help start?
This is not true, students are permitted to say anything on campus that is not obscene, lewd, vulgar, or plainly offensive at school, and case law has continually proven that judges will protect student speech if it doesn't legitimately qualify in these categories. I strongly support what this student did, as to fight ignorance about the laws of our country examples are neccesary.
Of conspiracy theories, I have none, of suggestions, some, why don't we create a nationwide group to organize protests.
Now that you mention it though, I do have a theory. My theory is that most people simply don't care as long as it doesn't affect their lives in an immediate context, i.e. if the FBI isn't busting down their doors, listening to stories about the NSA violating their rights is, as Al Gore would put it, an inconvenient truth.
I don't know the answer, but I think they deserve compensation for the song still. I think they deserve all the compensation people give them in fact, and I think the record companies should be completely cut out. Technology has gotten to the point that artists could publish their own music, I don't see why more people don't do that and keep the profits from selling it downloaded online. Or even make a new association to distribute music that benefits the artists, not record companies, something nonprofit.
I suppose I agree with you, I was just thinking out loud. It isn't right for the artists to get no compensation, and I guess I feel that if its made entirely legal people will download even if they would've bought otherwise sometime, there has to be a system whereby the artist gets compensated for their work but we can still abandon the cruel world of DRM and lawsuits, and I just don't know how to create that for music. For software its alot easier, corporations need to buy corporate licenses, but corporate software should be available to everyone else for free, since people would obviously never buy $1,000 software, there should at least be a way for them to learn it and try it out, and since corporations have the money to pay for licenses and would rather that than paying lawyers in lawsuits, they pay for licensing, in that case I think there is a solution, but i just don't know about music.
As I feel that way too, I'm going to add both of you, and I think we should create some kind of website or forum or something to register, just so we can group the people who support change together.
Copyright Infringement in this case is stealing, though I believe there is equal fault in both sides because the insane markup by the RIAA is tantamount to Grand Larceny, if the artists marketed the songs direct and you shared them, however, that shouldn't be legal, as the author deserves some proceeds from their work.
I'm as liberal as the next guy, but people who steal things understand the risks involved, or if they don't, they deserve what they get simply out of ignorance. Actively sharing that much is flaunting illegal activity, and when you do that, you're gonna get caught. I think the RIAA is stealing from us as much as we from them but unfortunately their stealing is legal, and in any case two wrongs don't make a right. That's not saying that I disapprove of piracy, just that if people get caught its not like they can make a case that what they're doing doesn't deserve punishment.
I think we're a bit smarter than that, and protest is always preferable to war, we just need to make meaningful protests showing the possibilities if our issues aren't addressed, not any actual violence for now.
I say there is no difference and one way or another we will have to fight, but saying you think thats the answer isn't enough, we need to ORGANIZE! Are you willing to help start, because if so we should start right now and if not we should shutup and sit back to echo the results of our actions.
I can't believe the extent of the civil liberties violations in my countries these days, Gonzales is essentially creating a culture where the media is a puppet to the state because if it publishes anything against them it is subject to prosecution. Is anyone now ready to protest this in a forum besides the internet? That is the only way anything will get done about it.
You might wanna check this out.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/17050 6_b_Memorandum.htm
It turns out, the President gave a memorandum telling the National Intelligence Director he could authorize companies to lie about dealings having to do with national security without being subject to penalties almost a week before the NSA shit really started hitting the fan.
There are messages that the President can't avoid, not every change happens because a lawmaker initiates it, sometimes it is the publics responsibility.
We should learn from the examples of fascist countries that've come before and do something about it before these people start taking away liberties that affect us directly, like life.
You're absolutely right if you're talking about what we can do on the internet (well not absolutely, but I don't even want to talk about the challenges of getting technically illiterate people aquainted with things like anonet). We need to do something outside of slashdot and message boards. If we could organize all the people who feel so strongly on the net and then make a real world appearance, it might actually have an affect, and its better than sitting on our asses and bitching.
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I guess this answers our question, the only conservatives that can support this are the ones that think we shouldn't care about the loss of our liberties or that they can accurately compare the leader of the "free world" with the instigator of the holocaust.
More important than that, is anyone willing to do something about rulings like this other than bitch about them on Slashdot? I'm not flaming, that too, is a serious question.
Yknow, those pods from the Matrix sure do look comfy. I know it isn't steak, but if it tastes like steak, who cares? Think about your reaction to that movie before you dismiss the loss of your freedoms, if you were outraged at the loss of the human race, think of this as the start of the slippery slope.
I should really make this more comprehensive but I'm on vacation and can't be bothered. In short. The President can only obtain Emergency Powers for a limited amount of time to respond militarily to an imediate threat. While I cannot remember off the top of my head what period of time this is, it is not, as most of our laws are, ambiguous. Congress has to authorize any further actions, including a declaration of war (which has not happened since either World War 2 or the Korean war, Congress simply gave the president authority to execute Vietnam and other conflicts through other "enabling" acts, such as the one preceding the Iraq war.) Anyways, just because Bush puts his legacy on the line for what he believes it (in my opinion his "legacy" will be more infamy than anything else, but time will tell) doesn't mean he is right about anything. I am sure that Saddam Hussein firmly believes in his dictatorship and the 9/11 hijackers firmly believed in their cause as well. The fact is, an enemy of any liberty is an enemy of the United States, and George Bush has done more than any President in the history of this nation to destroy the freedoms essential to the ideals of this country.
If you think that about HL2 you must've just played Lost Coast (which IS a technology demonstrator). The REAL HL2 story and game were amazing, and it remains alongside HL1 the only single player game I will still play through after beating about 5 times.
Wow that was clever.
How about we do something about it besides voting, I don't know what yet but we need to organize a way to fight this in the (likely) case that elections get us nowhere.
Excuse me if I'm wrong, and I don't mean offense because its a general comment and I'm guilty too, but I don't see you or me or anyone else who is complaining about it on slashdot doing anything about it that the government could see and care about. The US Government is only too happy to let its people complain in a private forum so long as it doesn't get any publicity and the only publicity rights violations get from the media is either neutral or positive. We need to get out there and start doing something, so who's gonna be the brave one to help start?
Haha, I noticed that too, I was amazed the first comment wasn't on that irony.
This is not true, students are permitted to say anything on campus that is not obscene, lewd, vulgar, or plainly offensive at school, and case law has continually proven that judges will protect student speech if it doesn't legitimately qualify in these categories. I strongly support what this student did, as to fight ignorance about the laws of our country examples are neccesary.
Of conspiracy theories, I have none, of suggestions, some, why don't we create a nationwide group to organize protests. Now that you mention it though, I do have a theory. My theory is that most people simply don't care as long as it doesn't affect their lives in an immediate context, i.e. if the FBI isn't busting down their doors, listening to stories about the NSA violating their rights is, as Al Gore would put it, an inconvenient truth.
So lets stop talking about it and organize it.
I don't know the answer, but I think they deserve compensation for the song still. I think they deserve all the compensation people give them in fact, and I think the record companies should be completely cut out. Technology has gotten to the point that artists could publish their own music, I don't see why more people don't do that and keep the profits from selling it downloaded online. Or even make a new association to distribute music that benefits the artists, not record companies, something nonprofit.
I suppose I agree with you, I was just thinking out loud. It isn't right for the artists to get no compensation, and I guess I feel that if its made entirely legal people will download even if they would've bought otherwise sometime, there has to be a system whereby the artist gets compensated for their work but we can still abandon the cruel world of DRM and lawsuits, and I just don't know how to create that for music. For software its alot easier, corporations need to buy corporate licenses, but corporate software should be available to everyone else for free, since people would obviously never buy $1,000 software, there should at least be a way for them to learn it and try it out, and since corporations have the money to pay for licenses and would rather that than paying lawyers in lawsuits, they pay for licensing, in that case I think there is a solution, but i just don't know about music.
As I feel that way too, I'm going to add both of you, and I think we should create some kind of website or forum or something to register, just so we can group the people who support change together.
Copyright Infringement in this case is stealing, though I believe there is equal fault in both sides because the insane markup by the RIAA is tantamount to Grand Larceny, if the artists marketed the songs direct and you shared them, however, that shouldn't be legal, as the author deserves some proceeds from their work.
I'm as liberal as the next guy, but people who steal things understand the risks involved, or if they don't, they deserve what they get simply out of ignorance. Actively sharing that much is flaunting illegal activity, and when you do that, you're gonna get caught. I think the RIAA is stealing from us as much as we from them but unfortunately their stealing is legal, and in any case two wrongs don't make a right. That's not saying that I disapprove of piracy, just that if people get caught its not like they can make a case that what they're doing doesn't deserve punishment.
I think we're a bit smarter than that, and protest is always preferable to war, we just need to make meaningful protests showing the possibilities if our issues aren't addressed, not any actual violence for now.
You go the money? I don't, but if you do by all means go for it.
I say there is no difference and one way or another we will have to fight, but saying you think thats the answer isn't enough, we need to ORGANIZE! Are you willing to help start, because if so we should start right now and if not we should shutup and sit back to echo the results of our actions.
I can't believe the extent of the civil liberties violations in my countries these days, Gonzales is essentially creating a culture where the media is a puppet to the state because if it publishes anything against them it is subject to prosecution. Is anyone now ready to protest this in a forum besides the internet? That is the only way anything will get done about it.
You might wanna check this out. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/17050 6_b_Memorandum.htm
It turns out, the President gave a memorandum telling the National Intelligence Director he could authorize companies to lie about dealings having to do with national security without being subject to penalties almost a week before the NSA shit really started hitting the fan.
There are messages that the President can't avoid, not every change happens because a lawmaker initiates it, sometimes it is the publics responsibility.
We should learn from the examples of fascist countries that've come before and do something about it before these people start taking away liberties that affect us directly, like life.
You're absolutely right if you're talking about what we can do on the internet (well not absolutely, but I don't even want to talk about the challenges of getting technically illiterate people aquainted with things like anonet). We need to do something outside of slashdot and message boards. If we could organize all the people who feel so strongly on the net and then make a real world appearance, it might actually have an affect, and its better than sitting on our asses and bitching.