I love you guys/gals at Firefox, hell all of you in the OSS community. Without you the world would be less exciting. I started reading the posts and realized that after getting through the first 20, everyone talks about citizen responsibility within the market. At times, I give up hope thinking people don't care about their world around them, they only care about themselves and profit. Profit and selfishness isn't bad but too much really chaps my hide. I end up on/. and what do I see, the same crazy wound up cats I'm so very proud to be a part of.
yes but they also buy up patents. some of the patents they purchase compete directly against Microsoft and their OS. Seems like they spend a lot of time shielding innovation than producing it. what the original patent holders did with their money is their own business. if they were to reinvest it in developing more patents then Google's money would have been invested wisely within those companies. In the end, it really comes down to IBM and what they decide to do within the market. MS runs on old blue's hardware but at the same time MS is a consistent revenue stream for them. Find a good reason, and you got yourself a broken addiction.
yeah, considering Microsoft owns a lot of apple stock and Linux is still too idealistic for its own good it makes the market bleak for small business owners and innovators. giving these companies power will kill the middle class not just in our country but across the board mainly because of the way the market is centralized to one vendor for support. who needs a government when you can lobby a corporation privately without any moral obligation. for them its business, for those who use their product, its competitive edge through security and stability. I pray that there will be no exploit attack created from some special interest within that company in which the public will not be aware of. Whether it's intentional or not, they will ultimately be held accountable for their actions.
It's hypothetical. What's stupid is that he did something like that. I'm just making a point of stupidity. It's like the old saying where "if your friends jump off a cliff would you do it too just to be cool" kind of thing. Anybody that's involved inside a court case should be aware of laws and the flexibility of those laws to make it work for them. If they weren't smart enough to effectively defend themselves why then would they waste taxpayers time and money? The whole thing is an embarrassment and I'm sorry if I'm not sympathetic but what do you expect.
"The very next day, we declared bankruptcy," said the executive source, "Darl thought he'd won some major victory. He was dancing around the office chanting 'Neener neener, you're a wiener!' all by himself. I think it was around this point that we realized we may have made a mistake."
What scares me is if someone would say, "he shouldn't kill himself" he just might do the opposite. Who the fuck takes legal advice by doing the opposite of what some groklaw website comments say. There should be some sort of Darwin award for this.
Yeah, I'm running 2.0.0.9 on Fedora Core 8 atm and it's running at 65k MB. It's been on for the past couple of hours and I've browsed hundreds of pages within that time. I have several tabs open and it's still at 65k MB. No tweaks with about:config, just the default configuration. I've toyed around with 3.0b and it's pretty much the same. Still has some bugs to it like rendering PNG format correctly but the memory is pretty much consistent.
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We're the MotherF'ing United States of America. We've sued people who sang poorly in church, we sued Saudi Arabia because of 9/11, we sued a fast food chain because their damn coffee was hot. Did we win all of them? No, but it doesn't keep the US from doing it.
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Is this not something that the Tor project should have explained in clear language for those who do NOT have a basic understanding of networking?
It does on the download page and pretty much throughout the site. Here's the download page:
Notice the section "Warning: Want Tor to really work?" It goes over all the pitfalls of using tor. They know what they made and they did inform the average joe that tor isn't perfect. It even clearly states the following:
While Tor blocks attackers on your local network from discovering or influencing your destination, it opens new risks: malicious or misconfigured Tor exit nodes can send you the wrong page, or even send you embedded Java applets disguised as domains you trust.
If you don't read about something that you assume you can trust, you are an idiot. If you don't understand that the layers of how applications/network works, you're setting yourself up for failure. The sad part is that the real criminals don't use tor, they have their own private proxies or use open virus infected systems. Wireless technologies have also been a pain in the past. A lot of cases involving leeching bandwidth end up happening because some idiot doesn't secure his router to prevent unwanted access, ie criminal intent through public access. Like everyone has said before, I'll say it for them again. There is no easy fix solution to provide security. You have to pay for it one way or another. Research before you buy and then no what the hell you are buying by seeing how the damn thing works. If you can't then it will become a big problem later on down the line.
The way it looks it probably is the problem. From their corporate section they claim the following:
SanDisk currently has approximately 780 issued U.S. patents, and more than 400 foreign patents, and is the only company, worldwide, that has the rights to both manufacture and sell every major flash card format, including CompactFlash®, SD(TM), miniSD(TM), microSD(TM), MultiMediaCard(TM), Reduced Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC(TM) ), Memory Stick PRO(TM) and related Memory Stick® products, xD-Picture Card(TM) and USB flash drives.
Their claim seems pretty broad. It's hard to tell what's going on until they present their argument.
Problem with this. Let me go over some points I learned over the years in dealing with software companies. Initially when a startup software company gets going they have to have a product to sell. Within the time alloted between development and the release they advertise their service to VC's who will fund their project off the ground. The VC's money gives them power over the project most of the time which can complicate the development process. Once the final product is made, the company releases it to the public and then provide a service of support. The support begins when the product is released. A company is considered unreliable if they do not provide support for their product. For companies with existing products already out in the market, they still provide a service by developing new features or patching security holes. Now if a company would decide to make upgrade after upgrade for sheer profit while sacrificing security, well you end up with a bad product while the consumer spends more and more money for each "upgrade". Consumers tire of this quickly.
When you have an OS made out of hundreds of programs all made from various individuals or groups, a business would be the only way there could be any type of support for such a system. The company would monitor all changes from the developer or forks and figure out how new patches can be applied and distributed to their consumer base. The developers who make the software decide for themselves on how they wish to handle their product within the market, whether they wish to profit off of it or not. The best thing to happen to a project is for that project to be incorporated into the business who is providing OS support. That way it provides jobs for coders and developers while allowing new ideas to fully develop and gain popularity. This all happens without having a Venture Capitalist to lay their money on a risky venture. If the developer wishes to profit from their program, they don't have to use the GPL. They also have the option to sell the rights of their software to big industries such as Google, RedHat, IBM, Novell, and Sun. If you don't have a hacker mentality in the real world you will never be able to make money. There are opportunities everywhere but often times we don't see it because we don't care to see anything other than what we are so dependent on. If it works why fix it right? Well, for a lot of developers, coders and hobbyists the system was broke a long time ago. What's going on right now is because of the same type of apathy that this is all charity and yet no one does anything to fix the existing problems. If you don't fix the problems yourself, someone else will do it for you. In the end whose really to blame?
You can build all the security systems in the world; you can build the most sophisticated technology, and all it takes is one weak link -- someone who operates that technology -- to bring it all down.
I'm still waiting for someone to say, "and that's where I come in..."
Well, when the competition, (ie microsoft) said that google beat them in the search market at one of those release parties for office 2007 it makes me wonder if google wasn't there who would take their place. I hate saying it but the technology is out there and nobody is forcing people to use it. It's there but it's completely voluntary. It's better than having it embedded into your operating system.
Yeah, more stuff, more power. Why does Vista need at least 1gig RAM to run properly, etc...
I've been running Fedora for a while. I've been running games on both xp and in wine. Average idle temp for Linux is around 35C, Microsoft was at around 32C after reinstall but currently xp has been running around 38C on idle. Video runs a lot cooler in Windows though because of Windows Media Player. I do have to give them credit for that. Under heavy load while running games, Linux runs about 42C. Highest temp goes up to around 48C. XP runs on average 46 and highest goes up to 52C while running the same games. Point is there are a lot of factors for this and that. What the tests end up showing is that average power usage only goes up around 1-3%. Not for each upgrade but for the overall life of the OS. I hate these lame attempts to divert and redirect attention. While it provides fodder for the MS crowd, it's convenient that there are no benchmarks for power usage for Vista right along with Ubuntu.
One other thing, it does seem pretty ridiculous but it's probably because they want their voice heard so they could negotiate a deal to earn profit on licensing. Once that's started they'll drop the case. In any case there are plenty of other GUI's available on the Linux platform such as KDE, Fluxbox, Blackbox, Enlightenment, XFCE, etc. I find it interesting that Linux is getting more attention over this than Apple did... Even the terminology is different. Is it me or is there partisanship going on here. Maybe someone should fix that.
IANAL but not exactly. There are a lot of frivolous lawsuits within the US court system. Most of the time what makes a frivolous case is because one party fails to provide complete or accurate information for their defense within a given time or there is precedence which invalidates a parties defense. I've been witness to a lot of court cases in my life and if there is a lack of evidence to uphold one's defense, the case gets thrown out every single time whether it's through a jury or a judge. There are times when certain lawsuits are based around political agenda (such as this) and they uphold their defense only for as long as it's affordable to the party who would profit from a judgment in their favor. Most would resort to a settlement to avoid new allegations which could damage the character for one or both sides. Basically, it's all about due process. If you have a complaint then go through the proper procedure for that complaint to be judged. Every argument is heard but it's up to the judge's/lawyer's experience in how the case will proceed. This involves a lot of reading and studying...
I don't know if any of this makes sense but a better person than I could probably clarify much better outside of legalese speak.
Number one, if they are basing it off of prior art then why wasn't this complaint filed 16 years ago. Number two, Linux companies aren't profiting off of the software, they are profiting off of paid support through subscription so what damages are they implying. (You can't say that Linux didn't have a strong market share in the server market back in the 90's) Number three, the code has been open on Linux for a long time. If there is a complaint, disclose the code so it can be fixed. Number four, because the system is open, regardless of how many lawsuits there are, companies suing the Linux community wastes their own resources just like SCO did. Businesses that will do this will end up bankrupt because the information is already readily available to all programmers across the world.
With such free information available to everyone it diversifies focus on which companies will be sued. If you start suing US companies such as Redhat (North Carolina) and Novell(Massachusetts) then it forces foreign countries to take up the slack. Very stupid of American companies to even think of taking American jobs away and indirectly providing more jobs overseas. My suggestion is to be more innovative to keep up with the free information. If there is a conflict, I would suggest negotiation or disclosing the code because this community thrives on forking.
IMHO I thought in order to hack an iphone all you had to do is swap sim cards. Albeit it is hard to access the sim card, I think it's funny that something that's done in other phones by other carriers is considered hacking on this phone. Apple using one phone carrier is their choice. I don't know why. It's their policy but it's monopolistic and anti-competitive. I guess it's one way to keep the price of their phone so high.
About people liking their products, I can't blame them. They make nice eye candy and their products perform the way they should. There are similar products out there but right now they are the top dog when it comes to digital media. One, five, ten years from now that will all change just the way it always does.
IANAL: Yeah, but where does he get taxed? Even then, what will your friend do with his savings? I'm not trying to be critical but he earned his money and he can do what he wants with it. The center he works at is located outside of the US which means that branch should be subject to foreign law. While the products that Microsoft produced are governed by State and Federal law to limit liability as stated in their EULA and other agreements, when it comes to labor practices, it would have to be negotiated with the corporation and the governing body in order to come up with a reasonable compromise for that company to operate on foreign soil. Or I'm thinking it's just a filing practice in order to do it. I'm not to sure, that needs to be cited. One person isn't a problem but a whole bunch of them absorbing at least 50k+ Euro/Pound/Dollar per person is. The companies supporting them will say that they are producing profits only to fund new foreign ventures indirectly. These new ventures will not negotiate with the companies that made it happen. They would have no reason to especially when it comes to their national solidarity. Competition is never fair and no corporation will ever be above it. Saying all of this, I think that life should be improved for all within reason. We do what we can by how much we can afford to do.
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They already have. It's called Frostwire http://www.frostwire.com/
I love you guys/gals at Firefox, hell all of you in the OSS community. Without you the world would be less exciting. I started reading the posts and realized that after getting through the first 20, everyone talks about citizen responsibility within the market. At times, I give up hope thinking people don't care about their world around them, they only care about themselves and profit. Profit and selfishness isn't bad but too much really chaps my hide. I end up on /. and what do I see, the same crazy wound up cats I'm so very proud to be a part of.
because if they can get away with doing it, their political enemies can do it as well if not better.
yes but they also buy up patents. some of the patents they purchase compete directly against Microsoft and their OS. Seems like they spend a lot of time shielding innovation than producing it. what the original patent holders did with their money is their own business. if they were to reinvest it in developing more patents then Google's money would have been invested wisely within those companies. In the end, it really comes down to IBM and what they decide to do within the market. MS runs on old blue's hardware but at the same time MS is a consistent revenue stream for them. Find a good reason, and you got yourself a broken addiction.
yeah, considering Microsoft owns a lot of apple stock and Linux is still too idealistic for its own good it makes the market bleak for small business owners and innovators. giving these companies power will kill the middle class not just in our country but across the board mainly because of the way the market is centralized to one vendor for support. who needs a government when you can lobby a corporation privately without any moral obligation. for them its business, for those who use their product, its competitive edge through security and stability. I pray that there will be no exploit attack created from some special interest within that company in which the public will not be aware of. Whether it's intentional or not, they will ultimately be held accountable for their actions.
why not just downgrade the article in firehose http://politics.slashdot.org/firehose.pl. You guys are right. It is blatant FUD.
It's hypothetical. What's stupid is that he did something like that. I'm just making a point of stupidity. It's like the old saying where "if your friends jump off a cliff would you do it too just to be cool" kind of thing. Anybody that's involved inside a court case should be aware of laws and the flexibility of those laws to make it work for them. If they weren't smart enough to effectively defend themselves why then would they waste taxpayers time and money? The whole thing is an embarrassment and I'm sorry if I'm not sympathetic but what do you expect.
I like the sentence after that one.
"The very next day, we declared bankruptcy," said the executive source, "Darl thought he'd won some major victory. He was dancing around the office chanting 'Neener neener, you're a wiener!' all by himself. I think it was around this point that we realized we may have made a mistake."What scares me is if someone would say, "he shouldn't kill himself" he just might do the opposite. Who the fuck takes legal advice by doing the opposite of what some groklaw website comments say. There should be some sort of Darwin award for this.
Yeah, I'm running 2.0.0.9 on Fedora Core 8 atm and it's running at 65k MB. It's been on for the past couple of hours and I've browsed hundreds of pages within that time. I have several tabs open and it's still at 65k MB. No tweaks with about:config, just the default configuration. I've toyed around with 3.0b and it's pretty much the same. Still has some bugs to it like rendering PNG format correctly but the memory is pretty much consistent.
We're the MotherF'ing United States of America. We've sued people who sang poorly in church, we sued Saudi Arabia because of 9/11, we sued a fast food chain because their damn coffee was hot. Did we win all of them? No, but it doesn't keep the US from doing it.
It does on the download page and pretty much throughout the site. Here's the download page:
http://www.torproject.org/download.html.en
Notice the section "Warning: Want Tor to really work?" It goes over all the pitfalls of using tor. They know what they made and they did inform the average joe that tor isn't perfect. It even clearly states the following:
While Tor blocks attackers on your local network from discovering or influencing your destination, it opens new risks: malicious or misconfigured Tor exit nodes can send you the wrong page, or even send you embedded Java applets disguised as domains you trust.If you don't read about something that you assume you can trust, you are an idiot. If you don't understand that the layers of how applications/network works, you're setting yourself up for failure. The sad part is that the real criminals don't use tor, they have their own private proxies or use open virus infected systems. Wireless technologies have also been a pain in the past. A lot of cases involving leeching bandwidth end up happening because some idiot doesn't secure his router to prevent unwanted access, ie criminal intent through public access. Like everyone has said before, I'll say it for them again. There is no easy fix solution to provide security. You have to pay for it one way or another. Research before you buy and then no what the hell you are buying by seeing how the damn thing works. If you can't then it will become a big problem later on down the line.
wait for the sequel
The way it looks it probably is the problem. From their corporate section they claim the following:
SanDisk currently has approximately 780 issued U.S. patents, and more than 400 foreign patents, and is the only company, worldwide, that has the rights to both manufacture and sell every major flash card format , including CompactFlash®, SD(TM), miniSD(TM), microSD(TM), MultiMediaCard(TM), Reduced Size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC(TM) ), Memory Stick PRO(TM) and related Memory Stick® products, xD-Picture Card(TM) and USB flash drives.Their claim seems pretty broad. It's hard to tell what's going on until they present their argument.
yeah, but is the mars rover really making money for anyone?
Problem with this. Let me go over some points I learned over the years in dealing with software companies. Initially when a startup software company gets going they have to have a product to sell. Within the time alloted between development and the release they advertise their service to VC's who will fund their project off the ground. The VC's money gives them power over the project most of the time which can complicate the development process. Once the final product is made, the company releases it to the public and then provide a service of support. The support begins when the product is released. A company is considered unreliable if they do not provide support for their product. For companies with existing products already out in the market, they still provide a service by developing new features or patching security holes. Now if a company would decide to make upgrade after upgrade for sheer profit while sacrificing security, well you end up with a bad product while the consumer spends more and more money for each "upgrade". Consumers tire of this quickly.
When you have an OS made out of hundreds of programs all made from various individuals or groups, a business would be the only way there could be any type of support for such a system. The company would monitor all changes from the developer or forks and figure out how new patches can be applied and distributed to their consumer base. The developers who make the software decide for themselves on how they wish to handle their product within the market, whether they wish to profit off of it or not. The best thing to happen to a project is for that project to be incorporated into the business who is providing OS support. That way it provides jobs for coders and developers while allowing new ideas to fully develop and gain popularity. This all happens without having a Venture Capitalist to lay their money on a risky venture. If the developer wishes to profit from their program, they don't have to use the GPL. They also have the option to sell the rights of their software to big industries such as Google, RedHat, IBM, Novell, and Sun. If you don't have a hacker mentality in the real world you will never be able to make money. There are opportunities everywhere but often times we don't see it because we don't care to see anything other than what we are so dependent on. If it works why fix it right? Well, for a lot of developers, coders and hobbyists the system was broke a long time ago. What's going on right now is because of the same type of apathy that this is all charity and yet no one does anything to fix the existing problems. If you don't fix the problems yourself, someone else will do it for you. In the end whose really to blame?
I'm still waiting for someone to say, "and that's where I come in..."
Well, when the competition, (ie microsoft) said that google beat them in the search market at one of those release parties for office 2007 it makes me wonder if google wasn't there who would take their place. I hate saying it but the technology is out there and nobody is forcing people to use it. It's there but it's completely voluntary. It's better than having it embedded into your operating system.
That might change when SP3 maybe even SP2 comes out...
Yeah, more stuff, more power. Why does Vista need at least 1gig RAM to run properly, etc...
I've been running Fedora for a while. I've been running games on both xp and in wine. Average idle temp for Linux is around 35C, Microsoft was at around 32C after reinstall but currently xp has been running around 38C on idle. Video runs a lot cooler in Windows though because of Windows Media Player. I do have to give them credit for that. Under heavy load while running games, Linux runs about 42C. Highest temp goes up to around 48C. XP runs on average 46 and highest goes up to 52C while running the same games. Point is there are a lot of factors for this and that. What the tests end up showing is that average power usage only goes up around 1-3%. Not for each upgrade but for the overall life of the OS. I hate these lame attempts to divert and redirect attention. While it provides fodder for the MS crowd, it's convenient that there are no benchmarks for power usage for Vista right along with Ubuntu.
One other thing, it does seem pretty ridiculous but it's probably because they want their voice heard so they could negotiate a deal to earn profit on licensing. Once that's started they'll drop the case. In any case there are plenty of other GUI's available on the Linux platform such as KDE, Fluxbox, Blackbox, Enlightenment, XFCE, etc. I find it interesting that Linux is getting more attention over this than Apple did... Even the terminology is different. Is it me or is there partisanship going on here. Maybe someone should fix that.
IANAL but not exactly. There are a lot of frivolous lawsuits within the US court system. Most of the time what makes a frivolous case is because one party fails to provide complete or accurate information for their defense within a given time or there is precedence which invalidates a parties defense. I've been witness to a lot of court cases in my life and if there is a lack of evidence to uphold one's defense, the case gets thrown out every single time whether it's through a jury or a judge. There are times when certain lawsuits are based around political agenda (such as this) and they uphold their defense only for as long as it's affordable to the party who would profit from a judgment in their favor. Most would resort to a settlement to avoid new allegations which could damage the character for one or both sides. Basically, it's all about due process. If you have a complaint then go through the proper procedure for that complaint to be judged. Every argument is heard but it's up to the judge's/lawyer's experience in how the case will proceed. This involves a lot of reading and studying...
I don't know if any of this makes sense but a better person than I could probably clarify much better outside of legalese speak.
Number one, if they are basing it off of prior art then why wasn't this complaint filed 16 years ago. Number two, Linux companies aren't profiting off of the software, they are profiting off of paid support through subscription so what damages are they implying. (You can't say that Linux didn't have a strong market share in the server market back in the 90's) Number three, the code has been open on Linux for a long time. If there is a complaint, disclose the code so it can be fixed. Number four, because the system is open, regardless of how many lawsuits there are, companies suing the Linux community wastes their own resources just like SCO did. Businesses that will do this will end up bankrupt because the information is already readily available to all programmers across the world.
With such free information available to everyone it diversifies focus on which companies will be sued. If you start suing US companies such as Redhat (North Carolina) and Novell(Massachusetts) then it forces foreign countries to take up the slack. Very stupid of American companies to even think of taking American jobs away and indirectly providing more jobs overseas. My suggestion is to be more innovative to keep up with the free information. If there is a conflict, I would suggest negotiation or disclosing the code because this community thrives on forking.
I got an iPod but that's about it.
IMHO I thought in order to hack an iphone all you had to do is swap sim cards. Albeit it is hard to access the sim card, I think it's funny that something that's done in other phones by other carriers is considered hacking on this phone. Apple using one phone carrier is their choice. I don't know why. It's their policy but it's monopolistic and anti-competitive. I guess it's one way to keep the price of their phone so high.
About people liking their products, I can't blame them. They make nice eye candy and their products perform the way they should. There are similar products out there but right now they are the top dog when it comes to digital media. One, five, ten years from now that will all change just the way it always does.
IANAL: Yeah, but where does he get taxed? Even then, what will your friend do with his savings? I'm not trying to be critical but he earned his money and he can do what he wants with it. The center he works at is located outside of the US which means that branch should be subject to foreign law. While the products that Microsoft produced are governed by State and Federal law to limit liability as stated in their EULA and other agreements, when it comes to labor practices, it would have to be negotiated with the corporation and the governing body in order to come up with a reasonable compromise for that company to operate on foreign soil. Or I'm thinking it's just a filing practice in order to do it. I'm not to sure, that needs to be cited. One person isn't a problem but a whole bunch of them absorbing at least 50k+ Euro/Pound/Dollar per person is. The companies supporting them will say that they are producing profits only to fund new foreign ventures indirectly. These new ventures will not negotiate with the companies that made it happen. They would have no reason to especially when it comes to their national solidarity. Competition is never fair and no corporation will ever be above it. Saying all of this, I think that life should be improved for all within reason. We do what we can by how much we can afford to do.