How do you build an advertising economy when the number can't be trusted?
Nothing to do with advertising can be trusted. That's the whole point - it's bullshit intended to manipulate you into giving your money away - how do you establish trust in that kind of parasitic activity? You just don't. You open your eyes to the reality and filter out the bullshit.
> I'm having trouble doing so in Australia. What? Buying a PC without an OS. I'm in Australia, too:)
www.umart.com.au is the cheapest place for computer parts I've found in Australia. Useless service... but I don't need that.
Pick your parts... or ask your friendly neighbourhood nerd to spec one out in your budget. Pay said nerd $100 to build it. Assuming said nerd is any good, parts will rock, and spec better than anything Dell will do for $1k more.
Many computer shops let you pick your parts, and then pay them to build it for you - my previous PC was built this way from Gamedude (their service and price is worse than umart, but it was still cheap, parts were good, and lasted me years).
Yeah, it's harder with the big-name brands... but, well, if the customer has an interest in "alternative" OS's, then they're more likely to find a way... and more likely to want to build a custom PC.
The fact of the matter is, most comsumers want their OS pre-installed. And most consumers prefer windows, or don't know alternatives exist. The real challenge for Linux is to compete at this game and get an OEM to preinstall. Unfortunately, that requires the dosh and marketing push, more common to big business than a "community".
I got kickass marks at school and uni coz I worked my butt off. Never cheated on a single item. When I got a job relevant to my degree, I kicked serious ass in it, because I put in the effort to know my shit.
You can bullshit your way through school or uni and bullshit on your resume and still get a good job. But you won't be good at the job... you'll just be a bullshit artist.
There comes a time where you can't bullshit your way out of something, and you have to do it properly. And if you can't, you'll be caught. It's Karma 101.
Look, if you can't do your job, people find out... your colleagues and supervisors will know you can't be trusted to do your job. And they will know
So... like someone else said on this thread... the thing we need to do is show kids that learning is the most important thing, not getting grades.
Unfortunately - how the hell are you going to do that to a kid... what about a 14 year-old teenager? Life sucks, I hate the world, I wanna kill my parents, why do I have to learn this shit? It just doesn't work.
School... highschool particularly, really is torture for most kids. In the end, does it really matter if they cheat or not? If they do, they're cheating themselves... they may suck at some jobs, learn how much they can bullshit, and somehow either get the skills or find a way to cope... at least they fucking got out of school. It's a game and they won... who cares if they cheat, just get them out of the hell-hole that is high school.
Uni's a bit different - it's a bit more drunken and a lot less "teen social hellhole with unpaid work"... you still get a bit of "i'm only doing this because I have to" and "i'm broke and can barely afford to eat", and "i'm here coz my parents are rich" but you get a pretty big percentage of people who are there to kick ass and get a good career.
Look, you can perceive anything as anything else, in particular, anything can be considered a game. You can play, not play, play clean, play dirty, or not consider it a game. If you play dirty, there's risks of being caught... if you play clean, there's risks of opportunities passing you by because you were too pussy to bend the rules to take them.
Is this what it comes down to? Those who play dirty are evil, so we should stop them? Huzzah for arms races! We need the cheaters and the legits; the good and the evil; THE YIN AND THE YANG!
Like Bender said: "[Good and evil are] both fine choices, whatever floats your boat."
The Term Paper may be dead, but the term: "paper" is still quite useful in referring to those thin, usually-white sheets made of trees that we write and print on.
Drilling through walls?
Is it really that much of a hassle to gaffa tape CAT5 to the floor? Sheesh!
If you really want wireless security, use WEP, restrict MAC addresses, and run a VPN.
Yay, wow! Let's spend all our energy research money on building better ways to burn fuel.
Increasing fuel efficiency is good, but we're still burning fuel.
Can't this research effort be put into something non-polluting?
Consumers hate DRM as it removes freedom, but big business likes it because it locks in customers, and gives them a lesser product for the same price, prevents piracy etc.
Now, why does the music business want to prevent piracy? So they can guarantee sales.
Apple has such a big chunk of the online music industry that <i>they'll get sales regardless of whether they have DRM or not</i>. So, if the customer will be happier without DRM, it makes sense for Apple to be against DRM... happier customers + guaranteed sales.
Still... put your money where your fucking mouth is, Jobs. You've got enough weight to pressure the record companies out of the stone age.
The big music execs may have big chunks of their markets, but there isn't a single one that has the % market share that Apple has, in their respective businesses. They have more to protect... and they're just greedy fucks used to getting bucketloads of free money. They like putting up big brick walls, and suing their customers. Apple is far from non-evil, but they're a bit more 'with the times', so they're willing to see some sense in actually giving the customer what they want.
The real issue with music piracy is value-for-money. Once they can compete with piracy in the value-for-money stakes, they may start to win this. It's about society's percieved value of goods and services... it really shows how out of sync $30/cd is with what the general public perceives the value of it. You could blame piracy for this, yes. You can similarly blame price fixing.
The world seems to be of the opinion that the existence of global warming proves we are fucking up this planet... and it's non-existence would prove that we're fine... as if global warming is the ONLY environmental issue there is, and if we can solve that, we're fine. Jeebus!
What about deforestation? Air quality? Mass extinctions? Loss of biodiversity? Water availability and quality? Overpopulation? Non-renewable resource shortages? Nuclear waste? Landfill?
Anyone tasted the air in peak hour traffic in a major city? Isn't that enough to prompt some action?
We don't have to prove the earth is warming for us to realise the damage we are doing! It's a RED HERRING! It's just one issue. What if we solve global warming... then what? Will our attitudes have changed? Will we still be pumping sewage in the ocean, burning coal and cutting down all the trees?
Global Warming isn't a problem unto itself... its a symptom of our abuse of this planet. It's only a poster-boy issue. Both sides need to stop debating - it doesn't matter whether global warming is happening or not. It's OBVIOUS the damage we're doing... that should be enough to prompt us to fix it.
To me, the reason is clear - Suse Linux allows you to log into Active Directory... and it actually works.
I've tried setting up AD domain logins using Fedora 5, Ubuntu 6.06 and SUSE and SUSE was the only one that worked out-of-the box. I got the rest working, but it was a bit of rocket science.
Microsoft realises that Active Directory is a key component for the enterprise market, and that it's valuable for it to be supported by a variety of client OS's - SUSE seems to be the only client OS that's taken this requirement seriously. Microsoft sees a strength in its AD server market, but sees clients switching to Linux desktops and needs to still keep them.
Also, in the directory services market, Novell is their biggest competitor. Novell directory services support Windows and Linux clients, which gives them a big advantage. If Microsoft also had this capability, they would be better able to compete.
Microsoft is also desperate to try and be seen as "open-source friendly"... as a lot of people have switched from MS to Linux because MS isn't open-source friendly. They're trying to win back some cred with these people.
If only MS would work with the Samba team... or compete with them. AD can feasibly be as useful to a Linux client environment as a Windows one, if only the right integration projects were happening... which could be given a big push if MS supported the Samba team.
Does anyone think MS could even buy Novell? I guess the antitrust boffins would have a field day if that happened.
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Nothing to do with advertising can be trusted. That's the whole point - it's bullshit intended to manipulate you into giving your money away - how do you establish trust in that kind of parasitic activity? You just don't. You open your eyes to the reality and filter out the bullshit.
> I'm having trouble doing so in Australia. :)
What? Buying a PC without an OS. I'm in Australia, too
www.umart.com.au is the cheapest place for computer parts I've found in Australia. Useless service... but I don't need that.
Pick your parts... or ask your friendly neighbourhood nerd to spec one out in your budget. Pay said nerd $100 to build it. Assuming said nerd is any good, parts will rock, and spec better than anything Dell will do for $1k more.
Many computer shops let you pick your parts, and then pay them to build it for you - my previous PC was built this way from Gamedude (their service and price is worse than umart, but it was still cheap, parts were good, and lasted me years).
Yeah, it's harder with the big-name brands... but, well, if the customer has an interest in "alternative" OS's, then they're more likely to find a way... and more likely to want to build a custom PC.
The fact of the matter is, most comsumers want their OS pre-installed. And most consumers prefer windows, or don't know alternatives exist. The real challenge for Linux is to compete at this game and get an OEM to preinstall. Unfortunately, that requires the dosh and marketing push, more common to big business than a "community".
I got a better idea - don't buy a big name pc. They cost twice as much.
Um... hello?
You can buy new computers without an operating system. I did it last week.
If you don't want to buy a new computer with vista, don't buy a new computer with vista! Get one without vista! They exist!
I got kickass marks at school and uni coz I worked my butt off. Never cheated on a single item. When I got a job relevant to my degree, I kicked serious ass in it, because I put in the effort to know my shit.
You can bullshit your way through school or uni and bullshit on your resume and still get a good job. But you won't be good at the job... you'll just be a bullshit artist.
There comes a time where you can't bullshit your way out of something, and you have to do it properly. And if you can't, you'll be caught. It's Karma 101.
Look, if you can't do your job, people find out... your colleagues and supervisors will know you can't be trusted to do your job. And they will know
So... like someone else said on this thread... the thing we need to do is show kids that learning is the most important thing, not getting grades.
Unfortunately - how the hell are you going to do that to a kid... what about a 14 year-old teenager? Life sucks, I hate the world, I wanna kill my parents, why do I have to learn this shit? It just doesn't work.
School... highschool particularly, really is torture for most kids. In the end, does it really matter if they cheat or not? If they do, they're cheating themselves... they may suck at some jobs, learn how much they can bullshit, and somehow either get the skills or find a way to cope... at least they fucking got out of school. It's a game and they won... who cares if they cheat, just get them out of the hell-hole that is high school.
Uni's a bit different - it's a bit more drunken and a lot less "teen social hellhole with unpaid work"... you still get a bit of "i'm only doing this because I have to" and "i'm broke and can barely afford to eat", and "i'm here coz my parents are rich" but you get a pretty big percentage of people who are there to kick ass and get a good career.
Look, you can perceive anything as anything else, in particular, anything can be considered a game. You can play, not play, play clean, play dirty, or not consider it a game. If you play dirty, there's risks of being caught... if you play clean, there's risks of opportunities passing you by because you were too pussy to bend the rules to take them.
Is this what it comes down to? Those who play dirty are evil, so we should stop them? Huzzah for arms races! We need the cheaters and the legits; the good and the evil; THE YIN AND THE YANG!
Like Bender said: "[Good and evil are] both fine choices, whatever floats your boat."
The Term Paper may be dead, but the term: "paper" is still quite useful in referring to those thin, usually-white sheets made of trees that we write and print on.
Auctioning visas doesn't work because people being paid large salaries are not necessarily more skilled or more valuable to the economy.
It's a similar argument as higher education - higher education should be accessible for those academically qualified, not those economically affluent.
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Drilling through walls? Is it really that much of a hassle to gaffa tape CAT5 to the floor? Sheesh! If you really want wireless security, use WEP, restrict MAC addresses, and run a VPN.
Yay, wow! Let's spend all our energy research money on building better ways to burn fuel. Increasing fuel efficiency is good, but we're still burning fuel. Can't this research effort be put into something non-polluting?
Christ! Isn't it obvious?
Consumers hate DRM as it removes freedom, but big business likes it because it locks in customers, and gives them a lesser product for the same price, prevents piracy etc.
Now, why does the music business want to prevent piracy? So they can guarantee sales.
Apple has such a big chunk of the online music industry that <i>they'll get sales regardless of whether they have DRM or not</i>. So, if the customer will be happier without DRM, it makes sense for Apple to be against DRM... happier customers + guaranteed sales.
Still... put your money where your fucking mouth is, Jobs. You've got enough weight to pressure the record companies out of the stone age.
The big music execs may have big chunks of their markets, but there isn't a single one that has the % market share that Apple has, in their respective businesses. They have more to protect... and they're just greedy fucks used to getting bucketloads of free money. They like putting up big brick walls, and suing their customers. Apple is far from non-evil, but they're a bit more 'with the times', so they're willing to see some sense in actually giving the customer what they want.
The real issue with music piracy is value-for-money. Once they can compete with piracy in the value-for-money stakes, they may start to win this. It's about society's percieved value of goods and services... it really shows how out of sync $30/cd is with what the general public perceives the value of it. You could blame piracy for this, yes. You can similarly blame price fixing.
The world seems to be of the opinion that the existence of global warming proves we are fucking up this planet... and it's non-existence would prove that we're fine... as if global warming is the ONLY environmental issue there is, and if we can solve that, we're fine. Jeebus!
What about deforestation? Air quality? Mass extinctions? Loss of biodiversity? Water availability and quality? Overpopulation? Non-renewable resource shortages? Nuclear waste? Landfill?
Anyone tasted the air in peak hour traffic in a major city? Isn't that enough to prompt some action?
We don't have to prove the earth is warming for us to realise the damage we are doing! It's a RED HERRING! It's just one issue. What if we solve global warming... then what? Will our attitudes have changed? Will we still be pumping sewage in the ocean, burning coal and cutting down all the trees?
Global Warming isn't a problem unto itself... its a symptom of our abuse of this planet. It's only a poster-boy issue. Both sides need to stop debating - it doesn't matter whether global warming is happening or not. It's OBVIOUS the damage we're doing... that should be enough to prompt us to fix it.
"City at the End of Time" makes me think of "Restaurant at the End of the Universe"
To me, the reason is clear - Suse Linux allows you to log into Active Directory... and it actually works. I've tried setting up AD domain logins using Fedora 5, Ubuntu 6.06 and SUSE and SUSE was the only one that worked out-of-the box. I got the rest working, but it was a bit of rocket science. Microsoft realises that Active Directory is a key component for the enterprise market, and that it's valuable for it to be supported by a variety of client OS's - SUSE seems to be the only client OS that's taken this requirement seriously. Microsoft sees a strength in its AD server market, but sees clients switching to Linux desktops and needs to still keep them. Also, in the directory services market, Novell is their biggest competitor. Novell directory services support Windows and Linux clients, which gives them a big advantage. If Microsoft also had this capability, they would be better able to compete. Microsoft is also desperate to try and be seen as "open-source friendly"... as a lot of people have switched from MS to Linux because MS isn't open-source friendly. They're trying to win back some cred with these people. If only MS would work with the Samba team... or compete with them. AD can feasibly be as useful to a Linux client environment as a Windows one, if only the right integration projects were happening... which could be given a big push if MS supported the Samba team. Does anyone think MS could even buy Novell? I guess the antitrust boffins would have a field day if that happened.
It's prounounced like slang for urine! They can't be serious!
Just because we're all allowed to walk down the footpath doesn't mean we're allowed to stalk anyone on there.