20 years ago, I knew a lady who worked at Merck, about the time Propecia was "discovered". In reality, it was developed as a drug for another purpose (something to do with the prostate) and the hair growth was a side effect. She, and no other females, were allowed in the production area, as exposure caused irreversible infertility in females, and it was really bad for pregnant women.
Your story is absolutely bogus. Propecia cannot cause infertility in women, as it causes a breakdown in the development of Dihydrogen-testosterone from Testosterone by blocking the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. (It is a 5a-reductase inhibitor.) Women do not need testosterone or testosterone-analogs for fertility, thus Propecia has no mechanism whereby it could cause infertility in women. (In men? Yeah, it by definition will cause testosterone-analog "deficiency", which can include sexual dysfunction.)
Rather, the real reason why pregnancy is so bad is that if you are being exposed to a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor is that if a child developing in the womb has an XY genotype, then they will develop with 5-alpha-reductase deficiency and if the concentrations are high enough, they will develop female primary sexual characteristics despite having testicles and Wolfian ducts.
Nothing you said invalidated anything I said. In fact, your post is a waste of space.
There's a very real difference between people's eyes glazing over due to basic algebra because they never had access to education and can't add multi-digit numbers, and in the alternative, because they received a worthless education.
The point is that MOST of the world's population is incapable of understanding basic algebra (due to no education) while most of America's population is incapable of understanding basic algebra because we learn at a substandard level (due in general to a kind of anti-intellectualism)
I will note that regardless of the cause of the lack of education, when people are exposed to evolution and naturalistic science in opposition to religion and have no way to evaluate the terms and explanations involved, they have a vastly higher incidence of religion, because the scientists are going to spend hours trying to explain things that people just don't get, meanwhile religion will walk in, tell them some stories about magic, and the people will assimilate the magical stories into justifications for their currently held beliefs.
My entire point is: if you grew up in Western Europe or somewhere else where there is decent education and learning going on, you would likely sound different. Namely you wouldn't claim that most of the world "eye would glaze over" (an expression denoting boredom, as would be the case in the anti-intellectual USA) but rather would be more on terms of "confused and perplexed by what you were talking about" (an expression of ignorance, as would be the REAL case for "most of the world's population" because they're uneducated".
Threatening people is against the law. Film at eleven.
Not just any people, but government workers... go to your local Social Security or DMV office, and you'll see a prominent sign stating that it is illegal to threaten any of the clerks working there. Wait, no... threatening someone with a show of force is commonly "assault" in the USA as well... if you flash a gun at me like you intend to do me harm, you just committed a crime... doesn't matter who I am.
Politicians in general receive fairly blanket protections, a real threat made against one is investigated and you're likely to face jail time if you meant it seriously, and a stern talking to about how they could lock you up if it was made in jest.
From the sound of TFS, this guy was a real threat to Eric Cantor, and the guy ought be in jail...
I thnk you're missing the point: if you don't have the knowledge to understand the science, then you must take on faith that those who do, a) do, and b) are relaying the correct information.
You could study for a decade or two in order to attain the same knowledge and verify it for yourself... but until you do that, your only option is to place your trust (and faith) in those who have already done that.
Now that I think about it, this whole debate is a less interesting formulation of "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
We think a lot of unproven math with yet more unproven theories support that it did.
The theories may be "unproven", but the math is actually proven... and I mean mathematically proven with certainty. (This does not however prove that the model is consistency with reality. I'm just pointing out that there is nothing at all wrong with the math in the Big Bang model, and that the math is a priori fact.)
When basic algebra is used with most people, their eyes glaze over. Which means, for the majority of the world's population, if it wasn't taught in eighth grade, they believe you, "because I said so."
Welcome to Amerocentricism... First, let's split the world up into two groups, the first group is the group of people who have no education, and thus no chance to know math, and thus no ability to evaluate algebra any better than evaluating the merits of the Big Bang theory.
The second group though is the part of the world that does receive wide education, usually public. In this subset of the world America is actually part of the minority, such that while it is true that most American eyes glaze over once you start talking about basic algebra, the majority of the world's educated population doesn't glaze over, but actually understands basic algebra.
If you want to make the claim that the majority of the world's population regardless of education doesn't get basic algebra, then I wouldn't say you're wrong, but I would say "that's because most of them were never received education at all."
but but but... if we can't rampantly speculate hypothetical and absurd consequences of laws, then how are we to fill our newspapers and other media with sensationalist rhetoric?
These people are idiots of outsourcing private information like that... that's why I keep all my customer data on my little notepad, which is.. right... um... around here somewhere... hm... oh well, I'm sure I'll find it eventually.
Nope, the April Fools joke stories were all marked with the fill-in-your-own-word combo boxes. We're now past 8pm ET which means it's past Midnight GMT and we're into April 2nd in GMT and half the world. They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live, but they're geeks in love with GMT.
Actually, they're not in love with GMT, they're in love with UTC...
I don't know what that link is meant to be owing to never going to Conserveourpedos, but I get a 403 forbidden.
I suppose that I should have mentioned that Conservapedia has a 403 server-side block for entire swaths of the internet... Apparently, some countries are too liberal to even view Conservapedia...
Would it look like sign language to someone who didn't know sign language? It only needs to be vaguely passable to be plausable before the viewer catches on that its a joke. Kind of like the old BBC program that had pasta growing on trees being harvested, it only had to look somewhat realistic (which some people actually believed I think).
The Spaghetti tree hoax. Yes. But TFA doesn't claim that it is ASL, that's almost my point. TFS is adding to the joke.
Correction: Windows Live Photo Gallery installs a screensaver to the root Windows directory, which produces a C:\Windows\SL directory if you have the Slovenian language pack installed. However, this shouldn't be exactly hard to check if this is the case, since it's a single MUI file...
77c443b0c85b67a89bb57edcca491d66 *WLXPGSS.SCR.mui
Anything else in there is not from Windows or Windows Live Essentials.
Corrections: Windows Live Photo Gallery installs a Screensaver (which all have to be in C:\Windows, or Windows can't find them... retarded, right?) and that for some godforsaken reason uses a bare languagecode directory for its MUI files. (Even though the rest of Windows has moved on from that, since you know, pt-PT and pt-BR are actually both equally supported... I think they're tier three.)
Windows 7 installs its Slovenian information in C:\Windows\sl-SI... so no, a Windows installation with full multilingual support would not trip up this anti-malware/anti-virus scanner (apparently VIPRE)
Don't these guys even use their MSDN subscriptions to get a full set of Windows installs to test against?
Your suggestion actually fails to fix the problem at all.
I checked my newly purchased Samsung laptop last night after I saw the article and it had the/sl folder on it, but it took about half a second and an ounce of brainpower to notice that there was a large number of similar directories that all looked like language/country codes. And they all had the same kind of non-executable file in them.
I'm not Slovenian.
J
What kind of files? Were they all "*.mui"? Windows 7 (and Windows Vista) use c:\Windows\sl-SI for the Slovenian localizatons...
IANS either, but I have just installed the Slovenian Windows 7 language pack, and Slovenian Windows Live Essentials.
Because it doesn't install there. I just installed the Slovenian Windows Live Essentials, and there is no C:\Windows\SL directory, there is a C:\Windows\sl-SI directory though from installing the Slovenian language pack.
Modern Windows versions use languagecode-COUNTRYCODE for all of its localizations. There would never be a reason why a modern version of Windows would put localization data in C:\Windows\SL...
Let me quote solely the important information that I was debating:
(deliberate lies inter-spread with facts do, believe it or not, that's how they copyright the phone book... but if the alleged offender omits the lies, you're case is over)
In the US, regardless of if someone copies your fake facts, you do not enjoy any copyright protection on a collection of facts.
Honestly, there might be some SLIGHT moral obligation to give him credit, but it's not even that strong. Finding/figuring out a fact first doesn't give you some right to that fact. Newspaper reporters will get information from each other all the time.
Consider an investigative report though... if one news source took the facts and such from that report and presented it as their own, without really kind of indicating that someone else is doing it, it seems just kind of bad form to me.
However, arguing moral obligations and such are pretty much nearly impossible... all we can argue is that there should have been a note in a bibliography... and there is little that actually means anyways... journalists don't usually publish bibliographies.
Yep and cygwin isn't really all that good when alls said and done.
Still, Windows drives me crazy. I'm very happy I'm on a mac.
I miss my Mac a ton, because I was so happy with how the POSIX environment integrated in with everything else. But I've spent HOURS working on my Cygwin environment to get it working just right... I'm relatively settled in by now. I do have a server though hosting a few virtual machines running Linux and OpenBSD, so I have plenty of access to full on POSIX systems.
I've debated a few times about turning my machine into a Hackintosh, but hacking my machine into working is kind of a little out of my way... but then Cygwin is really kind of just a hack anyways as well, so... meh.
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20 years ago, I knew a lady who worked at Merck, about the time Propecia was "discovered". In reality, it was developed as a drug for another purpose (something to do with the prostate) and the hair growth was a side effect. She, and no other females, were allowed in the production area, as exposure caused irreversible infertility in females, and it was really bad for pregnant women.
Your story is absolutely bogus. Propecia cannot cause infertility in women, as it causes a breakdown in the development of Dihydrogen-testosterone from Testosterone by blocking the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. (It is a 5a-reductase inhibitor.) Women do not need testosterone or testosterone-analogs for fertility, thus Propecia has no mechanism whereby it could cause infertility in women. (In men? Yeah, it by definition will cause testosterone-analog "deficiency", which can include sexual dysfunction.)
Rather, the real reason why pregnancy is so bad is that if you are being exposed to a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor is that if a child developing in the womb has an XY genotype, then they will develop with 5-alpha-reductase deficiency and if the concentrations are high enough, they will develop female primary sexual characteristics despite having testicles and Wolfian ducts.
Nothing you said invalidated anything I said. In fact, your post is a waste of space.
There's a very real difference between people's eyes glazing over due to basic algebra because they never had access to education and can't add multi-digit numbers, and in the alternative, because they received a worthless education.
The point is that MOST of the world's population is incapable of understanding basic algebra (due to no education) while most of America's population is incapable of understanding basic algebra because we learn at a substandard level (due in general to a kind of anti-intellectualism)
I will note that regardless of the cause of the lack of education, when people are exposed to evolution and naturalistic science in opposition to religion and have no way to evaluate the terms and explanations involved, they have a vastly higher incidence of religion, because the scientists are going to spend hours trying to explain things that people just don't get, meanwhile religion will walk in, tell them some stories about magic, and the people will assimilate the magical stories into justifications for their currently held beliefs.
My entire point is: if you grew up in Western Europe or somewhere else where there is decent education and learning going on, you would likely sound different. Namely you wouldn't claim that most of the world "eye would glaze over" (an expression denoting boredom, as would be the case in the anti-intellectual USA) but rather would be more on terms of "confused and perplexed by what you were talking about" (an expression of ignorance, as would be the REAL case for "most of the world's population" because they're uneducated".
Threatening people is against the law. Film at eleven.
Not just any people, but government workers... go to your local Social Security or DMV office, and you'll see a prominent sign stating that it is illegal to threaten any of the clerks working there. Wait, no... threatening someone with a show of force is commonly "assault" in the USA as well... if you flash a gun at me like you intend to do me harm, you just committed a crime... doesn't matter who I am.
Politicians in general receive fairly blanket protections, a real threat made against one is investigated and you're likely to face jail time if you meant it seriously, and a stern talking to about how they could lock you up if it was made in jest.
From the sound of TFS, this guy was a real threat to Eric Cantor, and the guy ought be in jail...
I thnk you're missing the point: if you don't have the knowledge to understand the science, then you must take on faith that those who do, a) do, and b) are relaying the correct information.
You could study for a decade or two in order to attain the same knowledge and verify it for yourself... but until you do that, your only option is to place your trust (and faith) in those who have already done that.
Now that I think about it, this whole debate is a less interesting formulation of "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
...They'll call it something else, and the equations might look different, but they will be mathematically identical...
In our Universe, it's called a Saunt Bucker's Basket!
We think a lot of unproven math with yet more unproven theories support that it did.
The theories may be "unproven", but the math is actually proven... and I mean mathematically proven with certainty. (This does not however prove that the model is consistency with reality. I'm just pointing out that there is nothing at all wrong with the math in the Big Bang model, and that the math is a priori fact.)
When basic algebra is used with most people, their eyes glaze over. Which means, for the majority of the world's population, if it wasn't taught in eighth grade, they believe you, "because I said so."
Welcome to Amerocentricism... First, let's split the world up into two groups, the first group is the group of people who have no education, and thus no chance to know math, and thus no ability to evaluate algebra any better than evaluating the merits of the Big Bang theory.
The second group though is the part of the world that does receive wide education, usually public. In this subset of the world America is actually part of the minority, such that while it is true that most American eyes glaze over once you start talking about basic algebra, the majority of the world's educated population doesn't glaze over, but actually understands basic algebra.
If you want to make the claim that the majority of the world's population regardless of education doesn't get basic algebra, then I wouldn't say you're wrong, but I would say "that's because most of them were never received education at all."
but but but... if we can't rampantly speculate hypothetical and absurd consequences of laws, then how are we to fill our newspapers and other media with sensationalist rhetoric?
These people are idiots of outsourcing private information like that... that's why I keep all my customer data on my little notepad, which is.. right... um... around here somewhere... hm... oh well, I'm sure I'll find it eventually.
...but they're geeks in love with GMT.
No, they're geeks in love with UTC! [/pedantic]
Nope, the April Fools joke stories were all marked with the fill-in-your-own-word combo boxes. We're now past 8pm ET which means it's past Midnight GMT and we're into April 2nd in GMT and half the world. They really should program the site for the East Coast USA audience because that's where the most Slashdotters actually live, but they're geeks in love with GMT.
Actually, they're not in love with GMT, they're in love with UTC...
I don't know what that link is meant to be owing to never going to Conserveourpedos, but I get a 403 forbidden.
I suppose that I should have mentioned that Conservapedia has a 403 server-side block for entire swaths of the internet... Apparently, some countries are too liberal to even view Conservapedia...
Would it look like sign language to someone who didn't know sign language? It only needs to be vaguely passable to be plausable before the viewer catches on that its a joke. Kind of like the old BBC program that had pasta growing on trees being harvested, it only had to look somewhat realistic (which some people actually believed I think).
The Spaghetti tree hoax. Yes. But TFA doesn't claim that it is ASL, that's almost my point. TFS is adding to the joke.
That is NOT American Sign Language
RTFA. They know it's not ASL.
RTFS, that's the one I was complaining about. But you are right, TFA got it right.
So, would The Onion's April Fool's joke be to publish an actual, true news story?
No, publishing reality-consistent news is a Conservapedia April Fools joke...
Oddly, I'm not joking...
That is NOT American Sign Language... it's a joking mockery of sign language...
Correction: Windows Live Photo Gallery installs a screensaver to the root Windows directory, which produces a C:\Windows\SL directory if you have the Slovenian language pack installed. However, this shouldn't be exactly hard to check if this is the case, since it's a single MUI file...
77c443b0c85b67a89bb57edcca491d66 *WLXPGSS.SCR.mui
Anything else in there is not from Windows or Windows Live Essentials.
Corrections: Windows Live Photo Gallery installs a Screensaver (which all have to be in C:\Windows, or Windows can't find them... retarded, right?) and that for some godforsaken reason uses a bare languagecode directory for its MUI files. (Even though the rest of Windows has moved on from that, since you know, pt-PT and pt-BR are actually both equally supported... I think they're tier three.)
Windows 7 installs its Slovenian information in C:\Windows\sl-SI... so no, a Windows installation with full multilingual support would not trip up this anti-malware/anti-virus scanner (apparently VIPRE)
Don't these guys even use their MSDN subscriptions to get a full set of Windows installs to test against?
Your suggestion actually fails to fix the problem at all.
I checked my newly purchased Samsung laptop last night after I saw the article and it had the /sl folder on it, but it took about half a second and an ounce of brainpower to notice that there was a large number of similar directories that all looked like language/country codes. And they all had the same kind of non-executable file in them.
I'm not Slovenian.
J
What kind of files? Were they all "*.mui"? Windows 7 (and Windows Vista) use c:\Windows\sl-SI for the Slovenian localizatons...
IANS either, but I have just installed the Slovenian Windows 7 language pack, and Slovenian Windows Live Essentials.
Because it doesn't install there. I just installed the Slovenian Windows Live Essentials, and there is no C:\Windows\SL directory, there is a C:\Windows\sl-SI directory though from installing the Slovenian language pack.
Modern Windows versions use languagecode-COUNTRYCODE for all of its localizations. There would never be a reason why a modern version of Windows would put localization data in C:\Windows\SL...
Let me quote solely the important information that I was debating:
(deliberate lies inter-spread with facts do, believe it or not, that's how they copyright the phone book ... but if the alleged offender omits the lies, you're case is over)
In the US, regardless of if someone copies your fake facts, you do not enjoy any copyright protection on a collection of facts.
Honestly, there might be some SLIGHT moral obligation to give him credit, but it's not even that strong. Finding/figuring out a fact first doesn't give you some right to that fact. Newspaper reporters will get information from each other all the time.
Consider an investigative report though... if one news source took the facts and such from that report and presented it as their own, without really kind of indicating that someone else is doing it, it seems just kind of bad form to me.
However, arguing moral obligations and such are pretty much nearly impossible... all we can argue is that there should have been a note in a bibliography... and there is little that actually means anyways... journalists don't usually publish bibliographies.
Yep and cygwin isn't really all that good when alls said and done.
Still, Windows drives me crazy. I'm very happy I'm on a mac.
I miss my Mac a ton, because I was so happy with how the POSIX environment integrated in with everything else. But I've spent HOURS working on my Cygwin environment to get it working just right... I'm relatively settled in by now. I do have a server though hosting a few virtual machines running Linux and OpenBSD, so I have plenty of access to full on POSIX systems.
I've debated a few times about turning my machine into a Hackintosh, but hacking my machine into working is kind of a little out of my way... but then Cygwin is really kind of just a hack anyways as well, so... meh.
Sheens are on a logarithm scale, compared to Britneys, so it takes a bit of work... I think wikipedia has an article about it.