No, PC user, not "just because... it's made by Apple." Because it's not a flaming piece of shit like Firefox, which doesn't recognize systemwide proxy settings, fails to store passwords and certificates in Keychain, handles multiple users in a distinctly Windows-like way, reimplements Cocoa controls with all the grace and elegance of a reanimated corpse, &c., &c., &c.
Firefox's design is completely alien to the Mac way of doing things. If you actually prefer the Firefox method, don't try to pretend you're a Mac user elsewhere on your desktop.
PithHelmet is much more powerful than Adblock, well worth the $10, and if you're a cheap bastard you can always just neglect to pay. The web inspector in WebKit nightlies beats the pants off Firefox's ugly and inconvenient DOM Element Inspector. And I'll proudly admit I'm not familiar with Firebug, but for debugging JavaScript, have a look at Drosera.
What, like the ones on www.pimpmysafari.com—maintained by the guy who designed Firefox's branding, then ditched it for Safari when Safari became available? And if you use Keychain the way it was intended—like a Mac user—certificate management is a cinch. Firefox doesn't even recognize Keychain.
Apple's said from the start it would be bundled with Leopard, and it still is. And as usual, people still on Tiger—over two years old at this point—can upgrade to it at a heavily discount (compared to the full price of Leopard).
What's the fuss about? What's wrong with you Apple-hating malcontents?
I can't think of any "hardcore Mac users" who don't regard Firefox as an abomination, an attempt to force Windows and Linux user interface paradigms, untranslated, onto a platform formerly uncorrupted by such Frankenstenian horrors.
Jon Hicks (the guy who designed the Firefox icon) dumped Firefox as his main browser. He moved on to Safari when it came out. What does that tell you?
I'd rather just see the Mac port of Firefox disappear so as to discourage would-be switchers (at least those who subscribe to PC aesthetics). It's already misleading to describe it as a Mac application when it behaves nothing at all like a real Mac app.
If you think you need to run Windows so badly, just buy a PC and GTFO the Mac. You linear-thinking rectangular types are ruining the platform for the rest of us.
Frankly, I'm pleased to hear it. Apple seems at last to be realizing the recent flood of beige onto the Mac platform has been detrimental to the community. Many Mac apps are losing their polish and careful interaction aesthetics as PC users, as customers and complainers, begin to have a role in their design. Seriously, Firefox? Who but a PC user would prefer Firefox to Safari?
Making it harder for people like that to switch to the Mac is the first step in undoing the damage.
Seems to me innovation at Apple happens regardless of market forces. Case in point: the iPod mini was flying off the shelves. Most people considered it the best player of its size. A Microsoft or a Dell, in Apple's position, wouldn't dare mess around with such an obvious success. What does Apple do? Discontinue it at the peak of its popularity and replace it with the iPod nano, an even smaller and better version at the same price point. They didn't improve on the mini because it was facing any immediate threat, nothing even nipping at its heels. They improved it because they fucking could.
Steve Jobs isn't interested in just being adequate. He seems to really care about making the world better, and so do the kinds of people the company attracts as employees. That's reflected in the release history of the iPod and other Apple products that dominate their market (e.g. QuickTime in the '90s pro video market). Really, Apple's not aiming for the mass market at all--that's just a nice accident that's happened with the iPod. Apple's target audience is people who actually give a shit about tasteful design.
I remember when Bungie used to take pride in their "it's done when it's done" attitude towards game development. That's what they were famous for in the Mac community.
Then they sold out to Microsoft, promised nothing would change. Look at them now.
Every one of your "points" only serves to illustrate that you ought to have stuck to PCs. Why would you buy a Mac and then refuse to take advantage of its unique strengths because they're "not cross-platform compatible"? So you ditch Safari, with all the niceties that come from its being so tightly integrated with OS X, and use, what, Firefox instead?
The fact that you're not only satisfied by, but actually prefer the least common denominator speaks volumes about your personality. Indeed, you said it best yourself: you're an uncreative, lazy, and unproductive pimple-riddled gamer dweeb. Leave our platform, please; go back to beige. Why pretend you're something you're not?
Forgive me if this is old news to you, but have you heard of Linotype's FontExplorer X? Hands down the most tasteful, well-designed font management and repair utility I've ever seen on the Mac (i.e. on any computer, period). Beats the shit out of Suitcase and the rest of the holdovers from System 4.2. Best part is it's $free.
Due perhaps to the IIfx debacle, Apple has in years past made a habit of giving people upgrades on the hush-hush if they've bought a new Mac within the couple weeks before unexpected product announcements, if they only call and ask. Of course, the flood of you PC users crashing the party lately really seems to have beiged up the company, so who knows.
Because if we don't, we die. Yes, our resistance to change might suck for all the unborn tropical fruit trees that would presumably thrive in a climate ten degrees warmer than what we humans can tolerate comfortably. But if you doubt that every human act of natural conservation has as an ultimate goal, stated or not, preservation of the status quo for human comfort, you need to rethink things.
Except that, as usual, a twelve-year-old aspie decided that anything he hasn't heard of doesn't belong in Wikipedia, and so the article—like so many others that could have provided information—is up for deletion. Because said twelve-year-old aspie is, like all other twelve-year-old aspies, a Wikipedia administrator. No wonder those fucktards are having problems raising $1.5M. How long was that fundraiser supposed to last again, three weeks?
Actually, I was a thoughtful and productive contributor to Slashdot for several years. But it's only in the past couple weeks, since I've started speaking bluntly, that I've started getting mod points to spend.
Lesson: You don't get mod points unless you troll. This, of course, is as it should be.
Needlessly complicated. You yourself even point out that your suggestion is a practice favored by Microsoft and other purveyors of beige. You PC-using fucktards will never understand the meaning of good taste.
You've gotta be fucking kidding. By your definition, just about every format everyone knows as open would be "proprietary." Try again, shithead, this time speaking the same language as the rest of us.
And who the fuck forced you to buy a TiVo? Would a ReplayTV have somehow caused your starvation? Was the cable-provided DVR going to hack off your limbs? Of course not. I suspect you don't even own a TiVo. You're just another blathering Stallmanist who badly needs a shower.
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No, PC user, not "just because... it's made by Apple." Because it's not a flaming piece of shit like Firefox, which doesn't recognize systemwide proxy settings, fails to store passwords and certificates in Keychain, handles multiple users in a distinctly Windows-like way, reimplements Cocoa controls with all the grace and elegance of a reanimated corpse, &c., &c., &c.
Firefox's design is completely alien to the Mac way of doing things. If you actually prefer the Firefox method, don't try to pretend you're a Mac user elsewhere on your desktop.
I do, I do, and my mistake. Apologies.
PithHelmet is much more powerful than Adblock, well worth the $10, and if you're a cheap bastard you can always just neglect to pay. The web inspector in WebKit nightlies beats the pants off Firefox's ugly and inconvenient DOM Element Inspector. And I'll proudly admit I'm not familiar with Firebug, but for debugging JavaScript, have a look at Drosera.
What, like the ones on www.pimpmysafari.com—maintained by the guy who designed Firefox's branding, then ditched it for Safari when Safari became available? And if you use Keychain the way it was intended—like a Mac user—certificate management is a cinch. Firefox doesn't even recognize Keychain.
Apple's said from the start it would be bundled with Leopard, and it still is. And as usual, people still on Tiger—over two years old at this point—can upgrade to it at a heavily discount (compared to the full price of Leopard).
What's the fuss about? What's wrong with you Apple-hating malcontents?
I can't think of any "hardcore Mac users" who don't regard Firefox as an abomination, an attempt to force Windows and Linux user interface paradigms, untranslated, onto a platform formerly uncorrupted by such Frankenstenian horrors.
Jon Hicks (the guy who designed the Firefox icon) dumped Firefox as his main browser. He moved on to Safari when it came out. What does that tell you?
Hey, we're not talking about Longhorn here.
I'd rather just see the Mac port of Firefox disappear so as to discourage would-be switchers (at least those who subscribe to PC aesthetics). It's already misleading to describe it as a Mac application when it behaves nothing at all like a real Mac app.
If you think you need to run Windows so badly, just buy a PC and GTFO the Mac. You linear-thinking rectangular types are ruining the platform for the rest of us.
Frankly, I'm pleased to hear it. Apple seems at last to be realizing the recent flood of beige onto the Mac platform has been detrimental to the community. Many Mac apps are losing their polish and careful interaction aesthetics as PC users, as customers and complainers, begin to have a role in their design. Seriously, Firefox? Who but a PC user would prefer Firefox to Safari?
Making it harder for people like that to switch to the Mac is the first step in undoing the damage.
Seems to me innovation at Apple happens regardless of market forces. Case in point: the iPod mini was flying off the shelves. Most people considered it the best player of its size. A Microsoft or a Dell, in Apple's position, wouldn't dare mess around with such an obvious success. What does Apple do? Discontinue it at the peak of its popularity and replace it with the iPod nano, an even smaller and better version at the same price point. They didn't improve on the mini because it was facing any immediate threat, nothing even nipping at its heels. They improved it because they fucking could.
Steve Jobs isn't interested in just being adequate. He seems to really care about making the world better, and so do the kinds of people the company attracts as employees. That's reflected in the release history of the iPod and other Apple products that dominate their market (e.g. QuickTime in the '90s pro video market). Really, Apple's not aiming for the mass market at all--that's just a nice accident that's happened with the iPod. Apple's target audience is people who actually give a shit about tasteful design.
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Now there's a guy who knows what's what.
I remember when Bungie used to take pride in their "it's done when it's done" attitude towards game development. That's what they were famous for in the Mac community.
Then they sold out to Microsoft, promised nothing would change. Look at them now.
Every one of your "points" only serves to illustrate that you ought to have stuck to PCs. Why would you buy a Mac and then refuse to take advantage of its unique strengths because they're "not cross-platform compatible"? So you ditch Safari, with all the niceties that come from its being so tightly integrated with OS X, and use, what, Firefox instead?
The fact that you're not only satisfied by, but actually prefer the least common denominator speaks volumes about your personality. Indeed, you said it best yourself: you're an uncreative, lazy, and unproductive pimple-riddled gamer dweeb. Leave our platform, please; go back to beige. Why pretend you're something you're not?
Forgive me if this is old news to you, but have you heard of Linotype's FontExplorer X? Hands down the most tasteful, well-designed font management and repair utility I've ever seen on the Mac (i.e. on any computer, period). Beats the shit out of Suitcase and the rest of the holdovers from System 4.2. Best part is it's $free.
Due perhaps to the IIfx debacle, Apple has in years past made a habit of giving people upgrades on the hush-hush if they've bought a new Mac within the couple weeks before unexpected product announcements, if they only call and ask. Of course, the flood of you PC users crashing the party lately really seems to have beiged up the company, so who knows.
Clothed women with hard nipples are way hotter than nude women. Also, penises cease to be visible in cold weather. What's not to like?
Because if we don't, we die. Yes, our resistance to change might suck for all the unborn tropical fruit trees that would presumably thrive in a climate ten degrees warmer than what we humans can tolerate comfortably. But if you doubt that every human act of natural conservation has as an ultimate goal, stated or not, preservation of the status quo for human comfort, you need to rethink things.
This guy is suggesting that piracy actually hurts content producers and copyright owners. Hey, mods! Why aren't you modding him troll?
Well, you could check Wikipedia for details.
Except that, as usual, a twelve-year-old aspie decided that anything he hasn't heard of doesn't belong in Wikipedia, and so the article—like so many others that could have provided information—is up for deletion. Because said twelve-year-old aspie is, like all other twelve-year-old aspies, a Wikipedia administrator. No wonder those fucktards are having problems raising $1.5M. How long was that fundraiser supposed to last again, three weeks?
Actually, I was a thoughtful and productive contributor to Slashdot for several years. But it's only in the past couple weeks, since I've started speaking bluntly, that I've started getting mod points to spend.
Lesson: You don't get mod points unless you troll. This, of course, is as it should be.
Needlessly complicated. You yourself even point out that your suggestion is a practice favored by Microsoft and other purveyors of beige. You PC-using fucktards will never understand the meaning of good taste.
You've gotta be fucking kidding. By your definition, just about every format everyone knows as open would be "proprietary." Try again, shithead, this time speaking the same language as the rest of us.
And who the fuck forced you to buy a TiVo? Would a ReplayTV have somehow caused your starvation? Was the cable-provided DVR going to hack off your limbs? Of course not. I suspect you don't even own a TiVo. You're just another blathering Stallmanist who badly needs a shower.