I didn't mean to replace the DTD with version altogether, just make the DTD optional. I think we are just arguing in circles though, and in fact this topic isn't really that important since the DTD is availible in either one. Let's just drop it.
Actually, let me clarify that, by viable, I don't mean conceived, I mean something closer to 5 months pregnant which is plenty of time to have an abortion if you want to. Ron Paul said the doctor would have to evaluate the situation to determine viability. Obviously real law would have to have more checks and balances, but it would work along those lines.
The only big problem I foresee is that this kind of law is playing against the future. What about when technology makes a 5 day old fetus viable? Then this problem will rear its ugly head again, although I am ethically comfortable with this solution for now.
Yea, I know it only reduces the number of characters to type, but lowering the bar to write standard code is always good. Why are people so uppity about that?
Actually he said that he wants states to punish obstetricians who abort fetuses that are viable which incidentally is strikingly close to my own position. He said he didn't want the women themselves punished.
Some of what Dr. Paul says does make me a bit frightened when he says absolutely no foreign intervention (what about stopping genocides?). But on the whole he's crazy extreme - which is what we need. The reason we need someone extreme, is because the rest of the politicians are at the other extreme. I think it will balance out in the middle with something more reasonable. If anything, it will break the deadlock the Republicrats have on our system and allow other people with different ideas to get elected.
Moreover, he's a doctor, a scientist. We can at least trust he'll at least listen to logic before tossing it out the window and his record says he doesn't just play to the crowd. His positions are typically well reasoned.
In any case, if you want a change, act on it. Don't just mouth off and vote for the same piles of crap we have right now. I don't think the guy is perfect, but he IS definitely different, and he's different our side for the most part - so unless he croaks or another guy shows up, I know I'll be voting for him.
What, we have flying cars, and robots that do things for our citizens and shining pinnacles over our cities and rocket ships for every town. Hell yes we're better. We just want them all to ourselves.
There is one thing that doctypes can't to that my beloved syntactic suger can: Inspire more web developers to code to standards. If someone, while they are learning can just say version=5 rather than having to fetch the DTD and figure out WTF does it do, we might have a more responsible web. Granted, I don't know how much it would help, but I think making writing to standards easier is never a bad thing.
If I'm writing a browser, it's pretty trivial to download a copy of a dtd and implement that as standards compliant mode. If a new version comes out, well, it won't be version 5 anymore anyway, it'll be 5.01 or something. At least let the browser do the work of remembering where the doctypes are (at the standard w3c address or some mirrors at say the mozilla foundation). We can still have doctypes optionally, but the version thing is much much cleaner.
It's actually a well documented problem, and it's psychological. Stick shift doesn't screw with your attention. Someone that is in the car doesn't screw with your attention as much as a disembodied voice in your ear (and they can watch out for potential problems as well). I've heard of studies that showed that people who are talking into a cell phone drive worse than the average drunk driver. Part of the problem is that when you are talking into a phone, you are psychologically in another place. YMMV of course as different people may use different mental mechanisms.
Make a habit of not charging religiously. Let it go for two days. Every two days or so, you can blame it. If you are actually taking the battery out, you'll still have the power if you need to call *someone else*.
Some services and forms require that you have a.edu account. I can't readily remember what they are other than the old facebook, but they do exist and they use it to make sure you are legit.
If you consider the human-computer interaction as a single system, it's something like a race condition. Humans have a finite capacity for attention, and computers have a finite amount of memory. Game designers need to give players a break, or they get tired and stop (or don't stop and that is JUST ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH AMERICA TODAY ). I think half life 2 pauses are good, because the levels can be intense and eventually, you need to have a break which those pauses afford.
I'm not so sure we can compare software to standard items. Software has so many lines of code that it's as if you went out and bought a huge finely engineered machine with thousands of parts instead of that dinky 10 part toy car you got at the supermarket. If I bought one of those, it seems reasonable that I could get a contract for repairs for several years and pay for extended service as long as I want. Of course, the average customer isn't paying thousands to millions of dollars to the vendor, but on the whole they are. It seems to me that as long as enough of them are willing to pay more than a certain amount, the fixes should come.
Uh dude, a rewritable drive is kind of awesome, you get way more than just music, that is, unless the drive is marked up a lot compared to the blank one.
He's also missing the fact that a hypochondriac won't care about the results of the machine's diagnostic unless it was positive. What the hypochondriac will do is look at the scan until he thinks he sees something that isn't there and then argue with the doctor over it. These machines would only make it worse.
Hate to rain on your parade, but MRI is a pretty common one. Maybe not as quite as common as FBI or some such, but most people would expect you to know it.
That may be true in the average case, but if you do something amazing, then the name power shouldn't matter. The key is to be able to provably take credit for it.
The thing is though, your college grades don't really matter once you've had a real job or two. After that, all that matters is either 1) What you can accomplish AND claim credit for 2) Your boss's opinions. In the long run, the school you go to doesn't matter so much as whether you go to school at all. The going to school can provide you with skills, but the name power only goes so far, at least I hope that's the case.
Who cares? I'll admit it doesn't reflect well on his character unless he had a good reason to hate the system. School grades don't reflect well on what you actually are capable of, they are more of a measuring stick for obedience.
Not to argue with your point, but as a simple clarification of fact, I doubt that YOU would have wanted the kind of medical treatment availible back then. Do you think they had MRIs and procedure success statistics? Ha, it was more like let's bleed the guy until the evil spirit spills out of him. They didn't even have the germ model of infectious disease at the time[1][2].
This is one of the times when it's perfectly acceptable to argue over this, because the founding fathers could not have predicted the changes technology would cause.
To actually address your point, you're just talking rhetoric. A reasonable person would notice that certain things like preventing epidemics are most definitely in the realm of government as the methodology for dealing with them might include isolating certain people or mandating the destruction of livestock which requires special legal powers that I wouldn't feel comfortable giving to a private organization.
Yes government does play the fear game, but I think it is more overplayed on the terrorist angle than it is on the healthcare angle.
I don't think the government has the job to protect you from yourself, but there should be a realistic threshold of protecting the populace from infectious disease. I think that a certain amount of basic care should be provided for so that we have a happier healthier environment overall which leads to a better economy and more science. I'm not sure how to deal with extreme (and expensive) cases like severe autoimmune disease, but it makes fiscal sense to provide the most basic things like 1000 dollars/person for medical care a year since that would allow general practitioners to catch stuff early and keep it from getting to the point where people can't work (and requiring much more expensive care).
The reason the full libertarian argument doesn't work in the case of medicine is because it is arguing to apply the usual algorithm to a discontinuity. Usually if you want something, you work your ass off for it and possibly eventually achieve it. When medicine is involved, the physical integrity of the system is in jeopardy and you're essentially asking a car with a bad motor to run a 1000 extra miles before you'll take it to a mechanic. What you really need is some padding to make sure that the car doesn't fall to pieces before you take it on the journey. If we say that we don't value human life any more than cars, the libertarian argument is fine. If we value it somewhat more than cars, we should take care of basic checkups at least.
Agree. To the greatest possible extent, intellectual discussions should value function over form. When you are dissecting something, you're going to get blood on your hands, no need to sprinkle roses over everything.
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I'm not sure, I think I saw something on TV once, but wasn't this similar to the plot of some sort of gundam show?
I didn't mean to replace the DTD with version altogether, just make the DTD optional. I think we are just arguing in circles though, and in fact this topic isn't really that important since the DTD is availible in either one. Let's just drop it.
Actually, let me clarify that, by viable, I don't mean conceived, I mean something closer to 5 months pregnant which is plenty of time to have an abortion if you want to. Ron Paul said the doctor would have to evaluate the situation to determine viability. Obviously real law would have to have more checks and balances, but it would work along those lines.
The only big problem I foresee is that this kind of law is playing against the future. What about when technology makes a 5 day old fetus viable? Then this problem will rear its ugly head again, although I am ethically comfortable with this solution for now.
Yea, I know it only reduces the number of characters to type, but lowering the bar to write standard code is always good. Why are people so uppity about that?
Actually he said that he wants states to punish obstetricians who abort fetuses that are viable which incidentally is strikingly close to my own position. He said he didn't want the women themselves punished.
Some of what Dr. Paul says does make me a bit frightened when he says absolutely no foreign intervention (what about stopping genocides?). But on the whole he's crazy extreme - which is what we need. The reason we need someone extreme, is because the rest of the politicians are at the other extreme. I think it will balance out in the middle with something more reasonable. If anything, it will break the deadlock the Republicrats have on our system and allow other people with different ideas to get elected. Moreover, he's a doctor, a scientist. We can at least trust he'll at least listen to logic before tossing it out the window and his record says he doesn't just play to the crowd. His positions are typically well reasoned. In any case, if you want a change, act on it. Don't just mouth off and vote for the same piles of crap we have right now. I don't think the guy is perfect, but he IS definitely different, and he's different our side for the most part - so unless he croaks or another guy shows up, I know I'll be voting for him.
What, we have flying cars, and robots that do things for our citizens and shining pinnacles over our cities and rocket ships for every town. Hell yes we're better. We just want them all to ourselves.
Wait, you actually work for MS? And you aren't afraid to post on /.? Mad props dude.
There is one thing that doctypes can't to that my beloved syntactic suger can: Inspire more web developers to code to standards. If someone, while they are learning can just say version=5 rather than having to fetch the DTD and figure out WTF does it do, we might have a more responsible web. Granted, I don't know how much it would help, but I think making writing to standards easier is never a bad thing.
If I'm writing a browser, it's pretty trivial to download a copy of a dtd and implement that as standards compliant mode. If a new version comes out, well, it won't be version 5 anymore anyway, it'll be 5.01 or something. At least let the browser do the work of remembering where the doctypes are (at the standard w3c address or some mirrors at say the mozilla foundation). We can still have doctypes optionally, but the version thing is much much cleaner.
It's actually a well documented problem, and it's psychological. Stick shift doesn't screw with your attention. Someone that is in the car doesn't screw with your attention as much as a disembodied voice in your ear (and they can watch out for potential problems as well). I've heard of studies that showed that people who are talking into a cell phone drive worse than the average drunk driver. Part of the problem is that when you are talking into a phone, you are psychologically in another place. YMMV of course as different people may use different mental mechanisms.
You are aware that the sun, earth, the human body, and just about everything shoots light right?
Make a habit of not charging religiously. Let it go for two days. Every two days or so, you can blame it. If you are actually taking the battery out, you'll still have the power if you need to call *someone else*.
What did the judge say? I'm assuming he had a witty remark. Like on tv!
Some services and forms require that you have a .edu account. I can't readily remember what they are other than the old facebook, but they do exist and they use it to make sure you are legit.
If you consider the human-computer interaction as a single system, it's something like a race condition. Humans have a finite capacity for attention, and computers have a finite amount of memory. Game designers need to give players a break, or they get tired and stop (or don't stop and that is JUST ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH AMERICA TODAY ). I think half life 2 pauses are good, because the levels can be intense and eventually, you need to have a break which those pauses afford.
I'm not so sure we can compare software to standard items. Software has so many lines of code that it's as if you went out and bought a huge finely engineered machine with thousands of parts instead of that dinky 10 part toy car you got at the supermarket. If I bought one of those, it seems reasonable that I could get a contract for repairs for several years and pay for extended service as long as I want. Of course, the average customer isn't paying thousands to millions of dollars to the vendor, but on the whole they are. It seems to me that as long as enough of them are willing to pay more than a certain amount, the fixes should come.
Uh dude, a rewritable drive is kind of awesome, you get way more than just music, that is, unless the drive is marked up a lot compared to the blank one.
He's also missing the fact that a hypochondriac won't care about the results of the machine's diagnostic unless it was positive. What the hypochondriac will do is look at the scan until he thinks he sees something that isn't there and then argue with the doctor over it. These machines would only make it worse.
Hate to rain on your parade, but MRI is a pretty common one. Maybe not as quite as common as FBI or some such, but most people would expect you to know it.
That may be true in the average case, but if you do something amazing, then the name power shouldn't matter. The key is to be able to provably take credit for it.
The thing is though, your college grades don't really matter once you've had a real job or two. After that, all that matters is either 1) What you can accomplish AND claim credit for 2) Your boss's opinions. In the long run, the school you go to doesn't matter so much as whether you go to school at all. The going to school can provide you with skills, but the name power only goes so far, at least I hope that's the case.
Who cares? I'll admit it doesn't reflect well on his character unless he had a good reason to hate the system. School grades don't reflect well on what you actually are capable of, they are more of a measuring stick for obedience.
Not to argue with your point, but as a simple clarification of fact, I doubt that YOU would have wanted the kind of medical treatment availible back then. Do you think they had MRIs and procedure success statistics? Ha, it was more like let's bleed the guy until the evil spirit spills out of him. They didn't even have the germ model of infectious disease at the time[1][2].
This is one of the times when it's perfectly acceptable to argue over this, because the founding fathers could not have predicted the changes technology would cause.
To actually address your point, you're just talking rhetoric. A reasonable person would notice that certain things like preventing epidemics are most definitely in the realm of government as the methodology for dealing with them might include isolating certain people or mandating the destruction of livestock which requires special legal powers that I wouldn't feel comfortable giving to a private organization.
Yes government does play the fear game, but I think it is more overplayed on the terrorist angle than it is on the healthcare angle.
I don't think the government has the job to protect you from yourself, but there should be a realistic threshold of protecting the populace from infectious disease. I think that a certain amount of basic care should be provided for so that we have a happier healthier environment overall which leads to a better economy and more science. I'm not sure how to deal with extreme (and expensive) cases like severe autoimmune disease, but it makes fiscal sense to provide the most basic things like 1000 dollars/person for medical care a year since that would allow general practitioners to catch stuff early and keep it from getting to the point where people can't work (and requiring much more expensive care).
The reason the full libertarian argument doesn't work in the case of medicine is because it is arguing to apply the usual algorithm to a discontinuity. Usually if you want something, you work your ass off for it and possibly eventually achieve it. When medicine is involved, the physical integrity of the system is in jeopardy and you're essentially asking a car with a bad motor to run a 1000 extra miles before you'll take it to a mechanic. What you really need is some padding to make sure that the car doesn't fall to pieces before you take it on the journey. If we say that we don't value human life any more than cars, the libertarian argument is fine. If we value it somewhat more than cars, we should take care of basic checkups at least.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hooke - the discoverer of cells in 1660 AD
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease - 1st major proposal in 1835 regarding the death of silk worms, well after the constitutional convention
Agree. To the greatest possible extent, intellectual discussions should value function over form. When you are dissecting something, you're going to get blood on your hands, no need to sprinkle roses over everything.