Good effort to be reasonable, but this is almost judicial panic. I expect junk from prosecutors, but not judges.
This is the same as requiring them to cross reference every single version of every single web document ever made with every single person who happens to "be in it", and that's not even getting into the people who were photoshopped in it!
The list may never disappear. It might morph from "translation" into "Oh yeah,that's how I do X".
I'm exactly midline - passably solid user on Win XP, a few holistic instincts, and... utterly new to Linux. I tried Ubuntu and had some bad experiences. Known problem in 6.06 Drake, random problems with one or other of the new builds etc.
The other distro that keeps popping up is that OpenSuse 11.2, and I finally took a whack at that. I got it about 60% working, with video, sound, flash, mp3's, Nvidia drivers, etc. I even cobbled up a Terminal Svc client to remote into work.
You want the distro to "sorta" look like Win XP because there's an exhaustion factor. It really is like learning a new forign language. It's nice to get a burger, beer, and rest stop before tackling the next 10 things.
Sorry, I respectfully have to disagree here. Computers are a powerhouse for education. I believe the problem is that the optimal teaching styles are far different though.
(Begin Accent) Back in their day, huge swaths of primary instructional conversations sunk the minute the teacher didn't know an answer, and even more student-student conversations sunk even faster because the students knew far less. The best scenario was that the answer could be dug up in a week by scheduling a visit to that Librarian Who Knew Everything. (Dying breed, those. Ever met one? Knows six languages cold and could swear in three more, knew the equivalent of four bachelor's degrees under the radar, and then became a rebel and went into Library Science.)
Now, for the spot questions, *anyone* can shut down the silly squabbles. Done right, that should free the teacher for the really tough questions.
I've learned more in the last 5 years lurking on the net than I did for 20 years prior. Memes aside, here on The Dot we get monopolistic theory of markets, civics updates on the dumber things lawmakers keep trying to push through, technological implementation with counter horror stories, etc.
The new distractions that come with tech like texting are red herrings.
I disagree. Data mining needs only to find the few important pieces among the noise to serve a certain purpose. And if you pair BOTH a computer AND a data pattern expert, then no one is "truly safe".
But there's a large middle ground of "relative safety" that works enough of the time. Stay off of named pics. Sculpt what your name produces in a boring search. Use screen handles. I like to say anyone smart can unravel my info in an hour, but that's an hour GoogleMonkeys and BoredHRreps won't spend.
It might be stupid focus group materials conducted in malls. I did one once. The respondents get handed a FIXED list of names and a hopeless list of questions.
After some random pokes at Gnome Ubuntu 6.06, and hearing the rumblings of the early KDE 4, I held off for a few years. Based on some NotCited reports on the web, I went exactly for OpenSuse 11.2 KDE (I think 4.3?). Apparently I Chose Wisely.
KDE 4.3 has a few odd feeling placements compared to WinXP, but I managed to stumble my way through some Nvidia drivers and a terminal svc client, and flash mostly works by this point.
Anyone know if the difference between 4.3 and 4.4 is dramatic, or should I "sit back and wait for 3 more releases" again?
AT&T is in the mindshare chart because of the iPhone. I went from T-Mobile and zero service, to Sprint with terrible service, on a brick phone that did nothing interesting and still clunked the battery.
I wanted to be part of the GSM theme, even though I knew Verizon was reputed to be slightly better service in my area.
So I switched to AT&T and the iPhone. My service went from "Terrible" to "Yucky". I decided that my usage habits for phones were opposite than the desktop, so I with with the current "game changer".
So to reverse my above reasoning, someone will have to uncork something new and exciting.
Steve Said, "... The bone doesn't fall out of our mouth... we keep working and working and working and working and coming and coming and coming and coming".
He wants to embrace, extend, and squirt into every market.
Did Google find a Force Majeure (sp) escape clause in their contract to censor Google.cn? I'd call it classy to pit a fairly random local security problem and make it the country's fault so that they can return to operating a standard search in China. Beautiful Reverse-Canary!!
"Dear Minister. For every day we do not get hacked, we'll follow your censor guidelines. When we do, they will no longer apply. "
"It's incredibly frustrating to READ through to the end OF A POST and have no conclusion, and have no real idea whether the end will be in sight at all.
--- Sig voted off the show: "+1 Funny is a battle between writing something smart enough to earn it vs. a mod who didn't get it."
The dangerous case with your note is that it's result dependent.
"Spends all his time with math"... and writes semi-pro papers, tutors a kid, and writes little freeware puzzles to amuse the net hordes. Win.
"Spends all his time with math"... and tries to figure out the numerology of life, but crucially, gets the worst of new age with none of the science of emergence. Then he's total bait for medical pigeonholing. Too smart for "ordinary" types, but too flawed to play the "strange genius" card.
If the ability comes together holistically/gestalt, I believe there is a "critical mass" that needs to occur to get it right. When the subject falls below that threshold, they get GarbageOut that proves very frustrating.
What if he does sorta understand? My new motto (I am too lazy to google the official name) is "Never assume naive incompetence for that which can be explained by malice *sold as* incompetence."
Because all of slashdot seems to hide when I start a reply, you made me open seven tabs to compose this. But here we go.
---- Section A - you vs. poster above you.
You said: "[citations needed]very badly since you seem to be the only person on the entire internet to have ever heard any of these stories."
Calling his comment some 75% correct, that makes your remark about 75% libel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel...libel (for written or otherwise published words)--is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual,... a negative image. It is usually.. a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed...
Saying this is "too long - didn't read" tries to cover your fallacious post with a fallacious ad hominem attack. Your comment directly says his post was not long enough, so to discard the requested length below is a red herring.
----- Section B - Poster's comment #2.
"2. Aspirin was patented well after a similar process for making Salicylic Acid on an industrial scale was. The office decided, with no precidents, that making the same chemical in pure enough form that it was safe for medicinal use was novel. When challenged on it, the USPO said they were going through a bottle a day deciding patent claims and were not about to reject rewarding this claim no matter what the law said."
"Salicylic Acid on an industrial scale"... also known as "Salicylic acid is commercially prepared from sodium salicylate, which is produced from sodium phenoxide and carbon dioxide at high pressure and temperature in the Kolbe-Schmitt reaction." http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Salicylic_acid
(In about the mid 1840's)...Kolbe also synthesized salicylic acid and showed its value as a preservative. The process was named Kolbe synthesis (or Kolbe-Schmitt reaction)...
On March 6, 1899, Bayer registered Aspirin as a trademark. However, the German company lost the right to use the trademark in many countries as the Allies seized and resold its foreign assets after World War I. The right to use "Aspirin" in the United States (along with all other Bayer trademarks) was purchased from the U.S. government by Sterling Drug in 1918. However, even before the patent for the drug expired in 1917, Bayer had been unable to stop competitors from copying the formula and using the name elsewhere, and so, with a flooded market, the public was unable to recognize "Aspirin" as coming from only one manufacturer. Sterling was subsequently unable to prevent "Aspirin" from being ruled a genericized trademark in a U.S. federal court in 1921. Sterling was ultimately acquired by Bayer in 1994, but this did not rest
You have a fairly complicated comment there. Let's dig a little.
This has so many red herrings I will skip it entirely. The second part gets more interesting.
"...productively engage in a constructive discussion with me with respect to the most efficient way to use the resources at our disposal and how to get to the point where that is the focus of our society rather than consume, consume, consume..."
"Being productive" is more than creating text & spreadsheets. "Make the recreation more efficient". *TV* is one of the most inefficient recreations out there! Not the show - the timing schedule. A lot of "risky" shows are arriving with 16 episode contracts instead of 24, spread out over longer periods to eke out some more "remember me" mindshare. However, it was the internet entertainment multiverse that thrashed the TV mentality to smithereens. Instead of having to wrench our lives to see "our show" for seven months of the year, batch it on Hulu and churn through it on four Saturday Graveyard blocks from 2AM to 7AM. Remember the misery of "nothing good being on"? And even when you're watching it, you can do low level work during the boring scenes. I gained two virtual years of life back while still being satisfied with four show's worth of entertainment.
But if you're now looking askance at processing power, "the cool work" these days eats processor power like a hog. Multimedia editing audio commercials, online collaboration, enterprise accounting, onscreen CAD, information modeling rendering, etc. I bought a quad core machine precisely because the "document machines" couldn't cut it.
Isn't there a Black Hole of Godel-Class paradoxes here?
How can you have "content oriented" anything? Right now I think we have a Location(URL) centric model. Go (somewhere) and maybe, or maybe not, find (Something). (Something) can become (SomethingElse) at any time.
How can you possibly resolve Near-Alike Content? Some weird kind of statistical deviation thingy? I'm thinking of gmail's 'conversation view' that makes the first sender some kind of 'owner' of the conversation.
What I remember from high school was that jocks leveraged their bigger body to inflict the meaness cooked up by their smaller IQ. Can we get a Youtube edition of the prehistoric prequel to Revenge of the Nerds now?
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Good effort to be reasonable, but this is almost judicial panic. I expect junk from prosecutors, but not judges.
This is the same as requiring them to cross reference every single version of every single web document ever made with every single person who happens to "be in it", and that's not even getting into the people who were photoshopped in it!
It's just so wrong it's despair worthy.
The list may never disappear. It might morph from "translation" into "Oh yeah,that's how I do X".
I'm exactly midline - passably solid user on Win XP, a few holistic instincts, and ... utterly new to Linux. I tried Ubuntu and had some bad experiences. Known problem in 6.06 Drake, random problems with one or other of the new builds etc.
The other distro that keeps popping up is that OpenSuse 11.2, and I finally took a whack at that. I got it about 60% working, with video, sound, flash, mp3's, Nvidia drivers, etc. I even cobbled up a Terminal Svc client to remote into work.
You want the distro to "sorta" look like Win XP because there's an exhaustion factor. It really is like learning a new forign language. It's nice to get a burger, beer, and rest stop before tackling the next 10 things.
Sorry, I respectfully have to disagree here. Computers are a powerhouse for education. I believe the problem is that the optimal teaching styles are far different though.
(Begin Accent) Back in their day, huge swaths of primary instructional conversations sunk the minute the teacher didn't know an answer, and even more student-student conversations sunk even faster because the students knew far less. The best scenario was that the answer could be dug up in a week by scheduling a visit to that Librarian Who Knew Everything. (Dying breed, those. Ever met one? Knows six languages cold and could swear in three more, knew the equivalent of four bachelor's degrees under the radar, and then became a rebel and went into Library Science.)
Now, for the spot questions, *anyone* can shut down the silly squabbles. Done right, that should free the teacher for the really tough questions.
I've learned more in the last 5 years lurking on the net than I did for 20 years prior. Memes aside, here on The Dot we get monopolistic theory of markets, civics updates on the dumber things lawmakers keep trying to push through, technological implementation with counter horror stories, etc.
The new distractions that come with tech like texting are red herrings.
Problem is, the other baskets are Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T.
They all rotate into the limelight with something awful.
Google is a really tricky company. I think they do a decent job of scaring everyone into line.
I disagree. Data mining needs only to find the few important pieces among the noise to serve a certain purpose. And if you pair BOTH a computer AND a data pattern expert, then no one is "truly safe".
But there's a large middle ground of "relative safety" that works enough of the time. Stay off of named pics. Sculpt what your name produces in a boring search. Use screen handles. I like to say anyone smart can unravel my info in an hour, but that's an hour GoogleMonkeys and BoredHRreps won't spend.
It might be stupid focus group materials conducted in malls. I did one once. The respondents get handed a FIXED list of names and a hopeless list of questions.
"Possible names:
XFinity
QuanTastic
HolDelpheron
AmeriVerse
Please list the name that best describes a company aiming to reach for the stars and deliver new heights of unsurpassed customer service".
I find these badgers so compelling that I will consent to the content on the rest of the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badger_Badger_Badger
Hi.
UltraTurbo++ Linux Newbie here.
After some random pokes at Gnome Ubuntu 6.06, and hearing the rumblings of the early KDE 4, I held off for a few years. Based on some NotCited reports on the web, I went exactly for OpenSuse 11.2 KDE (I think 4.3?). Apparently I Chose Wisely.
KDE 4.3 has a few odd feeling placements compared to WinXP, but I managed to stumble my way through some Nvidia drivers and a terminal svc client, and flash mostly works by this point.
Anyone know if the difference between 4.3 and 4.4 is dramatic, or should I "sit back and wait for 3 more releases" again?
Don't feed the troll of the article.
He's Just Another Manic Mundie.
The Tooth shall set you free. Tell others about the Tooth, the whole Tooth, and nothing but the Tooth.
I want one!
Forget Luke. He'd go next to my Jung figure.
"Regress towards the mean".
AT&T is in the mindshare chart because of the iPhone. I went from T-Mobile and zero service, to Sprint with terrible service, on a brick phone that did nothing interesting and still clunked the battery.
I wanted to be part of the GSM theme, even though I knew Verizon was reputed to be slightly better service in my area.
So I switched to AT&T and the iPhone. My service went from "Terrible" to "Yucky". I decided that my usage habits for phones were opposite than the desktop, so I with with the current "game changer".
So to reverse my above reasoning, someone will have to uncork something new and exciting.
You said: He seems like a real prick.
Steve Said, "... The bone doesn't fall out of our mouth... we keep working and working and working and working and coming and coming and coming and coming".
He wants to embrace, extend, and squirt into every market.
Study item:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Klczu14tE
"no longer censoring results in Google.cn"
Did Google find a Force Majeure (sp) escape clause in their contract to censor Google.cn? I'd call it classy to pit a fairly random local security problem and make it the country's fault so that they can return to operating a standard search in China. Beautiful Reverse-Canary!!
"Dear Minister. For every day we do not get hacked, we'll follow your censor guidelines. When we do, they will no longer apply. "
NT
"It's incredibly frustrating to READ through to the end OF A POST and have no conclusion, and have no real idea whether the end will be in sight at all.
---
Sig voted off the show: "+1 Funny is a battle between writing something smart enough to earn it vs. a mod who didn't get it."
The dangerous case with your note is that it's result dependent.
"Spends all his time with math" ... and writes semi-pro papers, tutors a kid, and writes little freeware puzzles to amuse the net hordes. Win.
"Spends all his time with math" ... and tries to figure out the numerology of life, but crucially, gets the worst of new age with none of the science of emergence. Then he's total bait for medical pigeonholing. Too smart for "ordinary" types, but too flawed to play the "strange genius" card.
Very possibly.
If the ability comes together holistically/gestalt, I believe there is a "critical mass" that needs to occur to get it right. When the subject falls below that threshold, they get GarbageOut that proves very frustrating.
"President@whitehouse.gov"
What if he does sorta understand? My new motto (I am too lazy to google the official name) is "Never assume naive incompetence for that which can be explained by malice *sold as* incompetence."
Oh right. You gave me the excuse to play the remix again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXhoU43lNHA
Sorry, sir, I changed my sig because of folks like you. It reads:
Citation War - A1: Correct, NotCited. A2: Correct, Cited. B1: Wrong, NotCited B2: Wrong, Flawed Citation.
Because all of slashdot seems to hide when I start a reply, you made me open seven tabs to compose this. But here we go.
----
Section A - you vs. poster above you.
You said: "[citations needed]very badly since you seem to be the only person on the entire internet to have ever heard any of these stories."
Calling his comment some 75% correct, that makes your remark about 75% libel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel ...libel (for written or otherwise published words)--is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, ... a negative image. It is usually.. a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed...
Retire the Freudian acronym. This is a partial list of Slashdot Lawyers. If I were a lawyer I would be on my own list. I am not on that list.
http://taophoenix.paradoxservers.net/Freedom/Slashdot_Lawyers.html
Saying this is "too long - didn't read" tries to cover your fallacious post with a fallacious ad hominem attack. Your comment directly says his post was not long enough, so to discard the requested length below is a red herring.
-----
Section B - Poster's comment #2.
"2. Aspirin was patented well after a similar process for making Salicylic Acid on an industrial scale was. The office decided, with no precidents, that making the same chemical in pure enough form that it was safe for medicinal use was novel. When challenged on it, the USPO said they were going through a bottle a day deciding patent claims and were not about to reject rewarding this claim no matter what the law said."
"Salicylic Acid on an industrial scale"... also known as "Salicylic acid is commercially prepared from sodium salicylate, which is produced from sodium phenoxide and carbon dioxide at high pressure and temperature in the Kolbe-Schmitt reaction."
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Salicylic_acid
(In about the mid 1840's) ...Kolbe also synthesized salicylic acid and showed its value as a preservative. The process was named Kolbe synthesis (or Kolbe-Schmitt reaction)...
Going to
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/History/mid-nineteen.htm
Then, in 1853, French chemist Charles F. Gerhardt synthesized a primitive form of aspirin, a derivative of salicylic acid.
In 1897 Felix Hoffmann, a German chemist working at the Bayer division of I.G. Farber, discovered a better method for synthesizing the drug.
Going to
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Aspirin#Synthesis_of_aspirin
On March 6, 1899, Bayer registered Aspirin as a trademark. However, the German company lost the right to use the trademark in many countries as the Allies seized and resold its foreign assets after World War I. The right to use "Aspirin" in the United States (along with all other Bayer trademarks) was purchased from the U.S. government by Sterling Drug in 1918. However, even before the patent for the drug expired in 1917, Bayer had been unable to stop competitors from copying the formula and using the name elsewhere, and so, with a flooded market, the public was unable to recognize "Aspirin" as coming from only one manufacturer. Sterling was subsequently unable to prevent "Aspirin" from being ruled a genericized trademark in a U.S. federal court in 1921. Sterling was ultimately acquired by Bayer in 1994, but this did not rest
You have a fairly complicated comment there. Let's dig a little.
This has so many red herrings I will skip it entirely. The second part gets more interesting.
"...productively engage in a constructive discussion with me with respect to the most efficient way to use the resources at our disposal and how to get to the point where that is the focus of our society rather than consume, consume, consume..."
"Being productive" is more than creating text & spreadsheets. "Make the recreation more efficient". *TV* is one of the most inefficient recreations out there! Not the show - the timing schedule. A lot of "risky" shows are arriving with 16 episode contracts instead of 24, spread out over longer periods to eke out some more "remember me" mindshare. However, it was the internet entertainment multiverse that thrashed the TV mentality to smithereens. Instead of having to wrench our lives to see "our show" for seven months of the year, batch it on Hulu and churn through it on four Saturday Graveyard blocks from 2AM to 7AM. Remember the misery of "nothing good being on"? And even when you're watching it, you can do low level work during the boring scenes. I gained two virtual years of life back while still being satisfied with four show's worth of entertainment.
But if you're now looking askance at processing power, "the cool work" these days eats processor power like a hog. Multimedia editing audio commercials, online collaboration, enterprise accounting, onscreen CAD, information modeling rendering, etc. I bought a quad core machine precisely because the "document machines" couldn't cut it.
Isn't there a Black Hole of Godel-Class paradoxes here?
How can you have "content oriented" anything? Right now I think we have a Location(URL) centric model. Go (somewhere) and maybe, or maybe not, find (Something). (Something) can become (SomethingElse) at any time.
How can you possibly resolve Near-Alike Content? Some weird kind of statistical deviation thingy? I'm thinking of gmail's 'conversation view' that makes the first sender some kind of 'owner' of the conversation.
I think I heard this before!
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/d/disney/a_whole_new_world.html
(~Link is untrusted. I do not know if they have correctly paid their license fee to display lyrics.~)
EXACTLY!
What I remember from high school was that jocks leveraged their bigger body to inflict the meaness cooked up by their smaller IQ. Can we get a Youtube edition of the prehistoric prequel to Revenge of the Nerds now?