Another BBS system that's alive and strong
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Another BBS system that's survived since way back then is Monochrome. It used to run over the UK academic network JANET even before JANET had TCP/IP, but it migrated to an independent system a few years ago. It's classified into sections covering a whole load of different topics (news, technology, lifestyle, user diaries, music, humour [always worth a read], and so on), each with section moderators, and just like in the Elder Days, none of the files have threading.
(PS: I have nothing to do with Mono other than being a satisfied user.)
How is the OS they run on the departures board systems anything to do with the air traffic control? That's sillier than criticising the code behind Slashdot because I'm posting this from a Windows machine.
Another interesting aspect is that LM fiercely resisted having their hardware and software examined by the plaintiffs... People who have fought their red light tickets in court and who wanted the design details and calibration records for the camera that photographed them were routinely refused this information
DNS: see RFC 2671. It uses a label type that was deliberately reserved in the original standard in order to send extended information, and a new resource type, OPT, that lets you advertise what extensions you support and to send more kinds of request than could possibly be encoded in the original standard.
NNTP: see RFC 2980. (The extension mechanism seems to be that if the client sends an extended command that's not recognised, it'll get an error.:) )
Gandalf told me to help poor unconscious Mr. Frodo get out of dirty clothes. So took clothes off him and gave him a bath. And another one. Then gave him another bath. Gandalf came and told me six baths was quite enough, Samwise Gamgee. Poncy old git probably hasn't taken a bath since the Second Age.
"Gandalf told me to help poor unconscious Mr. Frodo get out of dirty clothes. So took clothes off him and gave him a bath. And another one. Then gave him another bath. Gandalf came and told me six baths was quite enough, Samwise Gamgee. Poncy old git probably hasn't taken a bath since the Second Age."
From the article: The Usenet, to my way of thinking, is very different than e-mail because it's not something that's just coming to you.
Isn't he thinking backwards here? Here's a clue: people have to store and transmit Usenet posts, just like they do with email, and they have to pay for the time and the storage, just like they do with email. The only difference from email for our purposes is in the opposite direction from that which he implies.
So when he says that Usenet spam isn't something that's "just coming to you", he's confusing the issue: the real difference from email spam is that it's not coming just to you. The spammer gets to make thousands of people pay to read their one ad, instead of having to go to the trouble of sending an individual message for each one.
You're going to these message boards for whatever reason,
Sure. And 99 times out of a hundred it isn't to get told about how to find a green card.
and although it may be true that mass posting to every Usenet group in sight wasn't good, I still don't see how it is nearly as intrusive as receiving 300 pornographic e-mail solicitations every day
Which makes it quite all right, of course.
<bad-taste> "News.com has an interview today with the surviving lawyer who spammed Usenet with multiple "Green Card Lottery" posts in '94."
You mean someone got the other one?:) </bad-taste>
Which was the first of the two issues I mentioned, yes. The specific problem of the CoS telling Google to remove pages from the database without any legal reason, since they don't quote from copyrighted texts, has been solved. This is newsworthy.
As for whether Google continues to block the remaining URLs from its database, that (as I said above) is a separate and unresolved issue. I abhor the extensive powers of censorship that the DMCA gives to corporations. Unfortunately, it's not up to Google to legitimise the use of any given legislation for a given purpose: that's the function of the judiciary.
The CoS were claiming that the large chunks of text on certain xenu.net pages violated their copyright. That's one issue. But on the basis of this, they asked Google to remove a whole load of other xenu.net URLs, including all the ones that come up on the first few pages when you search Google for, say, "scientology". That's a separate issue.
Now, the first issue (whether, if A holds the copyright on some text, and B publishes it online, A has the right to ask a search engine to remove copies of it from their cache or database) is an important question to resolve, as are the question of whether A should have this right in the first place, and whether it makes a difference if A and B are in different jurisdictions, or it's in the public interest to know. So that's worth discussing still.
But it's not the same as the second issue (that the CoS had no grounds on which to claim that xenu.net's front page should be removed from Google, and nevertheless succeeded in getting it removed). I think we can say that, given xenu.net's root page (rather than the pages which actually incorporate CoS text) is back in the database for these keywords, that this issue is happily closed.
Perl has POD, which can be embedded in your source in a manner similar to javadoc. You can then use standard Perl tools to turn the source into html, LaTeX, man pages or whatever.
Unfortunately not-- though I'm sure you could submit a patch if you felt like it. See the docs:
#r h or <left-arrow> - move left
#r j or <down-arrow> - move down
#r k or <up-arrow> - move up
#r l or <right-arrow> - move right
There's a handler in there for the "p" key, though I'm still not sure what it's supposed to do. It seems to put sed into an infinite loop.
Re:Ummm....What?
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Sed is a stream editor-- it takes a file and modifies it according to your instructions (such as "add a space at the start of every line"). Here's a quick introduction, and here's the sed FAQ from comp.editors.
It's a slippery slope...
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Today it's Sokoban... beware, for before you know it it'll be Elite.
Education is the answer to this problem, and we need to take the lead.
Education is the answer to ignorance. Are we sure ignorance is the problem? With so many reports of mails to abuse@ going ignored, so many open relays reported and yet remaining open, I have to wonder whether it's not often an attitude problem (not that Far Eastern ISPs have a monopoly on those), and that's much harder to know what to do about.
So it'll save $4m not to publish these in the Federal Register? It's good to see officials looking to save public money like that. But I wonder, if it's seen to be sufficient in this case to publish only the index in dead-tree form and to supply the full texts online and on CD-ROMs, whether a precedent will be set for the comments on all such cases to be published in this way. The consequent savings would presumably be non-trivial.
Every state does have its own unique domain, though: state.xx.us (e.g. state.pa.us, state.mn.us, and so on, though some are migrating to statename.gov). It's been that way for a long while.
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Another BBS system that's survived since way back then is Monochrome. It used to run over the UK academic network JANET even before JANET had TCP/IP, but it migrated to an independent system a few years ago. It's classified into sections covering a whole load of different topics (news, technology, lifestyle, user diaries, music, humour [always worth a read], and so on), each with section moderators, and just like in the Elder Days, none of the files have threading.
(PS: I have nothing to do with Mono other than being a satisfied user.)
How is the OS they run on the departures board systems anything to do with the air traffic control? That's sillier than criticising the code behind Slashdot because I'm posting this from a Windows machine.
Another interesting aspect is that LM fiercely resisted having their hardware and software examined by the plaintiffs... People who have fought their red light tickets in court and who wanted the design details and calibration records for the camera that photographed them were routinely refused this information
Hm, that's becoming a familiar story today...
DNS: see RFC 2671. It uses a label type that was deliberately reserved in the original standard in order to send extended information, and a new resource type, OPT, that lets you advertise what extensions you support and to send more kinds of request than could possibly be encoded in the original standard.
NNTP: see RFC 2980. (The extension mechanism seems to be that if the client sends an extended command that's not recognised, it'll get an error. :) )
So, go visit the Very Secret Diaries. Great stuff.
Gandalf told me to help poor unconscious Mr. Frodo get out of dirty clothes. So took clothes off him and gave him a bath. And another one. Then gave him another bath. Gandalf came and told me six baths was quite enough, Samwise Gamgee. Poncy old git probably hasn't taken a bath since the Second Age.
So, go read the Very Secret Diaries. Great stuff.
"Gandalf told me to help poor unconscious Mr. Frodo get out of dirty clothes. So took clothes off him and gave him a bath. And another one. Then gave him another bath. Gandalf came and told me six baths was quite enough, Samwise Gamgee. Poncy old git probably hasn't taken a bath since the Second Age."
A little Googling around suggests l-ware.com might be a place to start.
From the article: The Usenet, to my way of thinking, is very different than e-mail because it's not something that's just coming to you.
Isn't he thinking backwards here? Here's a clue: people have to store and transmit Usenet posts, just like they do with email, and they have to pay for the time and the storage, just like they do with email. The only difference from email for our purposes is in the opposite direction from that which he implies.
So when he says that Usenet spam isn't something that's "just coming to you", he's confusing the issue: the real difference from email spam is that it's not coming just to you. The spammer gets to make thousands of people pay to read their one ad, instead of having to go to the trouble of sending an individual message for each one.
You're going to these message boards for whatever reason,
Sure. And 99 times out of a hundred it isn't to get told about how to find a green card.
and although it may be true that mass posting to every Usenet group in sight wasn't good, I still don't see how it is nearly as intrusive as receiving 300 pornographic e-mail solicitations every day
Which makes it quite all right, of course.
<bad-taste> "News.com has an interview today with the surviving lawyer who spammed Usenet with multiple "Green Card Lottery" posts in '94."
You mean someone got the other one? :) </bad-taste>
Uh, I don't get it. Why?
Which was the first of the two issues I mentioned, yes. The specific problem of the CoS telling Google to remove pages from the database without any legal reason, since they don't quote from copyrighted texts, has been solved. This is newsworthy.
As for whether Google continues to block the remaining URLs from its database, that (as I said above) is a separate and unresolved issue. I abhor the extensive powers of censorship that the DMCA gives to corporations. Unfortunately, it's not up to Google to legitimise the use of any given legislation for a given purpose: that's the function of the judiciary.
The CoS were claiming that the large chunks of text on certain xenu.net pages violated their copyright. That's one issue. But on the basis of this, they asked Google to remove a whole load of other xenu.net URLs, including all the ones that come up on the first few pages when you search Google for, say, "scientology". That's a separate issue.
Now, the first issue (whether, if A holds the copyright on some text, and B publishes it online, A has the right to ask a search engine to remove copies of it from their cache or database) is an important question to resolve, as are the question of whether A should have this right in the first place, and whether it makes a difference if A and B are in different jurisdictions, or it's in the public interest to know. So that's worth discussing still.
But it's not the same as the second issue (that the CoS had no grounds on which to claim that xenu.net's front page should be removed from Google, and nevertheless succeeded in getting it removed). I think we can say that, given xenu.net's root page (rather than the pages which actually incorporate CoS text) is back in the database for these keywords, that this issue is happily closed.
Would that be Mr. M3 Sweatt?
Hmm. I wonder whether his initials are M.M.M. Sweat.
Perl has POD, which can be embedded in your source in a manner similar to javadoc. You can then use standard Perl tools to turn the source into html, LaTeX, man pages or whatever.
Slightly on a tangent, does anyone know of a help system for *nix similar to the old DOS help system
GNU's info?
Unfortunately not-- though I'm sure you could submit a patch if you felt like it. See the docs:
#r h or <left-arrow> - move left
#r j or <down-arrow> - move down
#r k or <up-arrow> - move up
#r l or <right-arrow> - move right
There's a handler in there for the "p" key, though I'm still not sure what it's supposed to do. It seems to put sed into an infinite loop.
Sed is a stream editor-- it takes a file and modifies it according to your instructions (such as "add a space at the start of every line"). Here's a quick introduction, and here's the sed FAQ from comp.editors.
Today it's Sokoban... beware, for before you know it it'll be Elite.
That's right: they (or rather, someone from their advertising agency) chalked "Peace, Love and Linux" all over Chicago and San Francisco. The artist got thirty days' community service, and IBM got fined ten thousand dollars. Here's the story Slashdot ran at the time.
They can? How?
Education is the answer to this problem, and we need to take the lead.
Education is the answer to ignorance. Are we sure ignorance is the problem? With so many reports of mails to abuse@ going ignored, so many open relays reported and yet remaining open, I have to wonder whether it's not often an attitude problem (not that Far Eastern ISPs have a monopoly on those), and that's much harder to know what to do about.
Does that 15% VAT tax apply to me?
I believe not. You might have to pay it and then claim it back, though. IANAL.
Fucking EU.
Nothing to do with the EU. It's a UK tax.
Cue the ucam.chat New Four Yorkshiremen sketch. Binary? We used to dream o' binary!
I'm a little confused: who's "us"?
So it'll save $4m not to publish these in the Federal Register? It's good to see officials looking to save public money like that. But I wonder, if it's seen to be sufficient in this case to publish only the index in dead-tree form and to supply the full texts online and on CD-ROMs, whether a precedent will be set for the comments on all such cases to be published in this way. The consequent savings would presumably be non-trivial.
Every state does have its own unique domain, though: state.xx.us (e.g. state.pa.us, state.mn.us, and so on, though some are migrating to statename.gov). It's been that way for a long while.