Oops! I think you're missing my point. Put anything you want on the internet. If your site is used by folks in country in a way that is illegal in their country, then if you come into that country you may very well be arrested. I'm not necessarily saying that's right, I'm saying that's the way the country's law works. You raised great points. Let me bring one you didn't...child porn. Do you think that if child porn is allowed in a country and is presented on the internet that viewers of that child porn should be allowed a free pass in countries where child porn is illegal? Should the purveyors of that child porn be allowed free access to travel countries where it is illegal?
If you knowingly break the law of a country you should definitely not visit within the reach of that country's short, or long arm of the law. Or...you may be arrested.
"Why doesn't the US just be a bit more honest with its citizens and setup a Chinese style firewall around the entire country?
Much more honest for Americans to see a "The Bush administration is preventing you from gambling for your own good" page then to have the US attempting to enforce it's laws across the entire internet."
I can't argue with that in the least. But, everyone knows the US government is not exactly honest with their citizens, much less the world.
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"It is worrisome how the US is trying to enforce its law on the whole world."
Respectfully, I have to call bullshit. It's not the US trying to enforce its law on the whole world. Its the US trying to enforce its laws within their borders. Gambling businesses are making money from people living within US borders where that business is illegal. If you violate US law, don't step foot within their borders. They may arrest you. Having said that, the US would do a whole lot better working with these folks for a share of the profits. It certainly is not unreasonable to say, "Give us a share for letting your business be legal in our jurisdiction". Besides, it might subsidize my income tax.
I remember reading somewhere that life in prison is less expensive to the taxpayer than the death sentence. Can't cite it and can't say that's true...setting that portion aside, I'll give you my short list of life sentence/death sentence offenses: murder, rape, kidnapping, sexual exploitation of children, and torts that affect a massive number of people (think Enron), that's a start. I'm certainly open to suggestions.
I don't think that dumping all serious predators on desert island would be a bad idea either. Let them prey on each other. They'll work things out as far as local resources go (think Easter Island) until global warming takes care of them all. In the meantime they are isolated from those of us who try to follow the golden rule and some of them may come to understand the pain they inflicted upon others.
I knew I saw this a couple of days ago on BBC. I was going to post something to the effect of "a little late on the draw there aren't we", then, I saw this is dupe. I must have missed the first post.
"He was convicted of several different offenses including "attempted witness harassment." Undoubtedly some of the convictions carried very stiff penalties and were for things you wouldn't normally associated with just spamming."
Great point! Judges hate it when the accused is convicted of attempted witness harassment. They tend to take a very dim view of folks who attempt to suborn justice. That is only their privilege!:) Really, judges don't like any disrespect to their proceedings.
"Then don't use it. If you mean "fuck" writing "fork" or "f**k" or whatever doesn't change anything - you meant to swear and everyone who reads it knows you meant to swear."
If everyone who reads it knows what was meant, what is the harm?
I keep my GPS on when driving even if I don't need directions because it also shows my speed. And, my speedometer consistently shows ~5% - 7% above my actual speed. Having checked both against those mobile speed signs they often put out in school zones it seems that the GPS is very accurate. I'd expect that though when you consider it shows to tenths of a mile and hour at speeds below 10 miles an hour.
My wife has no interest in any technology other than what it can do for her. She prefers to have it remain inexplicable magic. The same goes for all of her female friends.
Insightful? Maybe inciteful. Yes, I know that's not a real word.
I didn't know that someone had dictated rules as to what does or doesn't constitute being a Christian. Where can I find this all encompassing document? I know many people who don't believe in a literal reading of the bible but THEY consider themselves to be Christians. I consider them to be Christians if they believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God. As a matter of fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that a large proportion of Christians look at a lot of the old testament as not being literal. Some do, but I think most of them don't. Do you hate just Christians or adherents of all religions? What is the problem with allowing people to have their beliefs as long as they don't try to foist them upon you?
Disclaimer: I am not religious but I try to respect others' religions as long as they understand I have no wish to be converted to theirs.
I think that it has more to do with using more of your brain. Kids do better learning 2nd, 3rd, or other languages...whether they are spoken or otherwise. You can include maths and music. It's more about stretching your brain's abilities. If you stretch earlier, you promote more pathways and therefore help prevent problems in the future. There probably is still a genetic aspect for dementia of all types but, the more you expand, the less or later the impact.
Too cool! I've followed your posts for a long time (really, you have posted comments I can appreciate). So, what are 1 thru 7? Passwords and user ID's would be appreciated.:):):)
"If you don't keep your security stuff up to date, especially on a Windows machine, you have no idea what it's being used for."
Even if Windows users keep their box up to date they have no clue as to what it is being used for. It's the same as a dishwasher. My dishwasher washes my dishes. My computer gives me email and internet. Most people have no clue that their computer can do a WHOLE lot more if they don't take proper precautions. Even more important is that they don't know what the proper precautions are!
Until MS (and others) can deliver a box loaded with an OS and apps that automatically set to a fairly secure point, we will continue to have these problems. Unfortunately, this is the nature of the beast. You have end users who know NOTHING, and bad folks who know a lot more. That's going to be more of problem with *nix flavors too. Even if more/most users switch from MS, that just means the bad people will concentrate in a different direction. There are security problems with *nix and Apple too. They are fewer but then again the bad guys concentrate on finding MS issues.
"They are so greedy and so clueless bad people around the internet don't have to try very hard to own them."
I'll agree with clueless but I have an issue with "greedy". Because they are clueless they don't understand that "free" could equal bad. TANSTAAFL comes to mind. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Robert Heinlein was prescient to many issues we face today. I only hope that some of his worst scenarios don't come to fruition. All though...killing all the lawyers might improve the US to a degree...just kidding. Lawyers have their place in society too. The big issue is that your regular, everyday user has no concept of the evil that can come about from just clicking on a link for some free, minor computer knick knack. Someone please save us from free screen savers, games, and cursors.
You are correct however I think most people equate "killed" with "murder" so the usage really isn't current. Also, I take issue with your statement that she was killed by her own stupidity. I think she DIED due to ignorance on her part as to the danger of H2O poisoning.:) Only us nerds and geeks know how dangerous H2O is.
Point of curiosity. What makes you think there are "hundreds if not thousands" of applications? Are you speaking to each and every database or the number of diverse applications accessing the individual databases? Data is data and most major database apps have tools for importing data or you write scripts to import it.
"Lets hope this dosen't get traction, but as with most things 'New Labour', I can only imagine this is signed and sealed now that the public are being made aware"
Is "dosen't" a UK spelling I'm not familiar with?:)
From experience...chickens can and will start laying before 20 weeks. Ducks too. That's a great benefit with chickens over cows. Plus, chickens require a lot less feed and care than cows. Of course avian flu might have the potential to fuck things up a bit. No matter, a cancer fighting benefit from either is a huge plus.
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Oops! I think you're missing my point. Put anything you want on the internet. If your site is used by folks in country in a way that is illegal in their country, then if you come into that country you may very well be arrested. I'm not necessarily saying that's right, I'm saying that's the way the country's law works. You raised great points. Let me bring one you didn't...child porn. Do you think that if child porn is allowed in a country and is presented on the internet that viewers of that child porn should be allowed a free pass in countries where child porn is illegal? Should the purveyors of that child porn be allowed free access to travel countries where it is illegal?
If you knowingly break the law of a country you should definitely not visit within the reach of that country's short, or long arm of the law. Or...you may be arrested.
"Why doesn't the US just be a bit more honest with its citizens and setup a Chinese style firewall around the entire country?
Much more honest for Americans to see a "The Bush administration is preventing you from gambling for your own good" page then to have the US attempting to enforce it's laws across the entire internet."
I can't argue with that in the least. But, everyone knows the US government is not exactly honest with their citizens, much less the world.
"It is worrisome how the US is trying to enforce its law on the whole world."
Respectfully, I have to call bullshit. It's not the US trying to enforce its law on the whole world. Its the US trying to enforce its laws within their borders. Gambling businesses are making money from people living within US borders where that business is illegal. If you violate US law, don't step foot within their borders. They may arrest you. Having said that, the US would do a whole lot better working with these folks for a share of the profits. It certainly is not unreasonable to say, "Give us a share for letting your business be legal in our jurisdiction". Besides, it might subsidize my income tax.
I remember reading somewhere that life in prison is less expensive to the taxpayer than the death sentence. Can't cite it and can't say that's true...setting that portion aside, I'll give you my short list of life sentence/death sentence offenses: murder, rape, kidnapping, sexual exploitation of children, and torts that affect a massive number of people (think Enron), that's a start. I'm certainly open to suggestions.
I don't think that dumping all serious predators on desert island would be a bad idea either. Let them prey on each other. They'll work things out as far as local resources go (think Easter Island) until global warming takes care of them all. In the meantime they are isolated from those of us who try to follow the golden rule and some of them may come to understand the pain they inflicted upon others.
I knew I saw this a couple of days ago on BBC. I was going to post something to the effect of "a little late on the draw there aren't we", then, I saw this is dupe. I must have missed the first post.
"the foreign based spammers often collect money on behalf of US-based companies.
just read the articles out there about how many of the spammers's clients can be traced"
Great point. I didn't even think of that. Maybe we should be going after the spammers's clients too.
"He was convicted of several different offenses including "attempted witness harassment." Undoubtedly some of the convictions carried very stiff penalties and were for things you wouldn't normally associated with just spamming."
:) Really, judges don't like any disrespect to their proceedings.
Great point! Judges hate it when the accused is convicted of attempted witness harassment. They tend to take a very dim view of folks who attempt to suborn justice. That is only their privilege!
I think boys do much better with "erector" sets than girls once they reach puberty. :)
"Then don't use it. If you mean "fuck" writing "fork" or "f**k" or whatever doesn't change anything - you meant to swear and everyone who reads it knows you meant to swear."
If everyone who reads it knows what was meant, what is the harm?
Don't be a rectal orifice.
This may be a great deterrent for US based spammers but I don't think the foreign based spammers will blink an eye from it.
I would hope that other governments could make similar examples of spammers based from their countries.
I keep my GPS on when driving even if I don't need directions because it also shows my speed. And, my speedometer consistently shows ~5% - 7% above my actual speed. Having checked both against those mobile speed signs they often put out in school zones it seems that the GPS is very accurate. I'd expect that though when you consider it shows to tenths of a mile and hour at speeds below 10 miles an hour.
Maybe the male geeks and nerds scare them away! :)
My wife has no interest in any technology other than what it can do for her. She prefers to have it remain inexplicable magic. The same goes for all of her female friends.
Insightful? Maybe inciteful. Yes, I know that's not a real word.
I didn't know that someone had dictated rules as to what does or doesn't constitute being a Christian. Where can I find this all encompassing document? I know many people who don't believe in a literal reading of the bible but THEY consider themselves to be Christians. I consider them to be Christians if they believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God. As a matter of fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that a large proportion of Christians look at a lot of the old testament as not being literal. Some do, but I think most of them don't. Do you hate just Christians or adherents of all religions? What is the problem with allowing people to have their beliefs as long as they don't try to foist them upon you?
Disclaimer: I am not religious but I try to respect others' religions as long as they understand I have no wish to be converted to theirs.
I think that it has more to do with using more of your brain. Kids do better learning 2nd, 3rd, or other languages...whether they are spoken or otherwise. You can include maths and music. It's more about stretching your brain's abilities. If you stretch earlier, you promote more pathways and therefore help prevent problems in the future. There probably is still a genetic aspect for dementia of all types but, the more you expand, the less or later the impact.
Too cool! I've followed your posts for a long time (really, you have posted comments I can appreciate). So, what are 1 thru 7? Passwords and user ID's would be appreciated. :) :) :)
Ouch! I wasn't going there... Actually, Mom's computer is probably part of the problem!
"Speaking for myself, I've never owned a PC in my life, Windows or otherwise."
:)
Holy shit! You must be posting using your psychic abilities. I alway knew mutants were out there. Are you one of the X-Men?
"If you don't keep your security stuff up to date, especially on a Windows machine, you have no idea what it's being used for."
Even if Windows users keep their box up to date they have no clue as to what it is being used for. It's the same as a dishwasher. My dishwasher washes my dishes. My computer gives me email and internet. Most people have no clue that their computer can do a WHOLE lot more if they don't take proper precautions. Even more important is that they don't know what the proper precautions are!
Until MS (and others) can deliver a box loaded with an OS and apps that automatically set to a fairly secure point, we will continue to have these problems. Unfortunately, this is the nature of the beast. You have end users who know NOTHING, and bad folks who know a lot more. That's going to be more of problem with *nix flavors too. Even if more/most users switch from MS, that just means the bad people will concentrate in a different direction. There are security problems with *nix and Apple too. They are fewer but then again the bad guys concentrate on finding MS issues.
Do you think that more than half of Slashdot users don't have a Windows box in addition to their main OS?
"They are so greedy and so clueless bad people around the internet don't have to try very hard to own them."
I'll agree with clueless but I have an issue with "greedy". Because they are clueless they don't understand that "free" could equal bad. TANSTAAFL comes to mind. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Robert Heinlein was prescient to many issues we face today. I only hope that some of his worst scenarios don't come to fruition. All though...killing all the lawyers might improve the US to a degree...just kidding. Lawyers have their place in society too. The big issue is that your regular, everyday user has no concept of the evil that can come about from just clicking on a link for some free, minor computer knick knack. Someone please save us from free screen savers, games, and cursors.
You are correct however I think most people equate "killed" with "murder" so the usage really isn't current. Also, I take issue with your statement that she was killed by her own stupidity. I think she DIED due to ignorance on her part as to the danger of H2O poisoning. :) Only us nerds and geeks know how dangerous H2O is.
Point of curiosity. What makes you think there are "hundreds if not thousands" of applications? Are you speaking to each and every database or the number of diverse applications accessing the individual databases? Data is data and most major database apps have tools for importing data or you write scripts to import it.
Thanks. You made your point succinctly, certainly no harm in that. :) Very glad that instead I found someone I could agree with in the end.
"Lets hope this dosen't get traction, but as with most things 'New Labour', I can only imagine this is signed and sealed now that the public are being made aware"
:)
Is "dosen't" a UK spelling I'm not familiar with?
From experience...chickens can and will start laying before 20 weeks. Ducks too. That's a great benefit with chickens over cows. Plus, chickens require a lot less feed and care than cows. Of course avian flu might have the potential to fuck things up a bit. No matter, a cancer fighting benefit from either is a huge plus.