I was hoping someone could emphasize that this is really cool. It looks like such a basic step to be able to categorize, but their usefullness depends on that. If you can't sort into certain sizes with certain properties, then they're just a novelty.
Cool. Honest government with enforced altruism. It won't happen though. I think there's a great interest for lie detectors to be considered as not reliable enough for court use by our elected officials.
Thanks. You would think two contiguous countrys with similar governments would be closer than they have seemed to be in the past. I have friends who visited Canada and enjoyed themselves immensely and having lived in Florida previously, I can tell you Canadian tourists seem to enjoy themselves in the US. Maybe it's just us commoners who know how to get along.
Well the pigeons will be safe...from Cheney at least. I'm sure they'd satellite photograph the smoke signals and put their best cryptographers on it...either that or sic the EPA on you.
Canada may be suffering from being too close geographically to the US. Okay, still kidding.
I don't follow Canadian politics enough to offer an opinion. Has the Canadian government seen a radical increase of conservatives or some other kind of shift?
Unfortunately, I think a lot of people will look at this as the ISP participating in a neighborhood watch type program to protect everyone from the "bad" people on the internet. That's how I would certainly try to market it if I worked for an ISP that was instituting this kind of invasion of privacy.
"Will it be too late then?" My cynical side says it's too late now. My hopeful side says...nothing.
I understand there is a choice, the options are more the lesser of two evils. Do we give up our stated ideals of supporting non-discrimination or do we give up a significant amount of the public funding we receive? To me, that is exactly how the supreme court said "screw your idealism". You have your choices, idealism or funding. I think we are closer in opinion on this than it may appear to you. The fault may have been mine in that my original comment reflected my extreme dislike of the court's decision and I was perhaps too brief in explaining my opinion.
I appoligize for being a spelling/grammar nazi. I try very hard to ignore those items in general but sometimes they really take away from an otherwise passionate, reasoned comment.
You know, it's kind of funny looking at our login names...look! sumdumass and alshithead are arguing!
And if it matters, I haven't used an Apple since I had an Apple II+ and it was hardly stylish. I'm sure I talk to a lot of people who aren't members of MENSA as I care so little about it I don't bother to ask someone if they are member. My shit smells like...shit. As for being a douch bag...look at my login name. I think it's more apt.
Well, if I speak veeerrryy slowly maybe you'll understand. Maybe I was flippantly trying to say that the poor phrasing of his comment could be construed as a measure of his own intelligence. It might be a little deeper humor than you're capable of comprehending.
You must be drunk or trolling. What are you arguing with me about? Quote from my comment that you just replied to..."State universities get a lot of federal money and the Supreme Court said, "Screw your idealism on gays, we don't care if your policies align with military's. We say you HAVE to let the recruiters on campus even if it violates your policies."." I think you just said the same thing I did. Of course, I'm not really sure because you seem to be A MOSTLY ILLITERATE FUCK. Come on, a couple of typo's is one thing but go back to some elementary school that your tax dollars pay for and learn something.
You know a few of them well enough to judge their intelligence? What does that say about you?
Some people do their jobs well and others don't. I've heard that most of the Geek Squad members are people. That being said, there some really interesting horror stories on the bestbuysucks site (wwww.bestbuysucks.com).
There are pro's and con's to both sides. For below ground the most obvious con is the combination of water and gravity. Trying to keep a large underground infrastructure dry would seem to be major challenge. Of course many major challenges can be solved or at least made more tractable with more money...hmmm...another con. Maintenance and INSPECTION underground is more difficult...definitely another con. I have a friend who helped manage some of the repair work in Louisianna and Texas after the hurricanes last year. I just called and chatted with him. He says the repair work he saw was for both above and below ground infrastructures. He also says they were able to get more people back on the grid more quickly when their lines were above ground.
I'm not saying one is better than the other but maybe the way it should looked at is which is more appropriate for the location. Underground in urban areas like DC certainly seems appropriate. Underground along coasts where flooding can be expected on a fairly regular basis might not be a good idea.
Actually I'm using OpenOffice on a Windows XP system and it is slower than Office. My wife is using Office 2003 and it is faster on comparable hardware. That does NOT mean OpenOffice is the lesser application. It does everything I need it to and it didn't cost a cent. Meanwhile, I hate waiting but what the hell, an extra half a minute here and there doesn't amount to much for something that's FREE.
So? What's your point? I remember being able to drive through and buy a mixed drink in LA. Just like McDonald's except it's alcohol take out. How does that apply to my comment? Any state can decide to be proactive or they can wait until they are forced by the feds. The fact is, if they want the federal funds they will eventually comply. NY just jumped on the bandwagon sooner because they are a hotbed of flaming liberals. Of course, I hate flaming conservatives just as much...
I'm absolutely NOT saying they are more important. They are more in the US public's eye. Malaria in the US? I don't know anyone who got malaria in the US and I've lived in FL, LA, NC, SC, and MD...lots of fucking mosquitos. AIDS in US? Only happens to gays and IV drug users according to the stereotype fed to us by the news and our government. Type II diabetes? That's more of a prevention issue than a cure issue although I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of prevention. But, and this is a big but...diabetes, alzheimers, and the flu are the problems that almost everyone in the US can associate with, more so than AIDS and malaria because almost everyone in the US knows someone with one of those issues. AIDS and malaria are not on most US citizen's radar screen. I focused on mainstream problems for the general population of the US...just like most US citizens would. As for the pharmaceutical companies...all they care about is revenue. Got to increase that stock price and that is where their focus is. They aren't philanthropical entities. They are businesses and maybe the world suffers by that.
You are correct sir! Any organization that receives federal funds can elect to go against policy and choose to face the possibility that they won't receive the funds anymore. Great example...the.08 drunken driving limit and mandatory seatbelts. All states now have state law following the federal government's mandates because otherwise they lose their highway funding.
You're only reinforcing my point. Those who distribute the money have the ability to decide how it is spent. State universities get a lot of federal money and the Supreme Court said, "Screw your idealism on gays, we don't care if your policies align with military's. We say you HAVE to let the recruiters on campus even if it violates your policies."
And how is this a surprise? It works the same way here in the US. Do you think the Bush government isn't giving millions of dollars to religious organizations that relflect the Republican party's goals? All governments in power give support to organizations they think will help promote their goals.
Right on target. The schools can put almost any kind of language into their scholarship agreements as long it is not a violation of federal or state laws. Restrictions on the constitution or its amendments are fair game. If you don't like the restrictions you have the OPTION of not taking the scholarship. I don't know of any state or federal law that says you can't WILLINGLY give up some of your rights as citizen in exchange for some other benefit. That's how non-disclosure clauses work. The scholarship recipients have to weigh their options and choose what they personally value the most...assistance in paying for their education or in this case, free speech.
I'm not sure a state univeristy is completely out of bounds here. The supreme court might very well rule in their favor. Hell, they allowed the military to recruit on campus despite the fact that their "don't ask, don't tell" policy violates many state universities' written policies on discrimination against gays.
Oh, you're right...they don't DESERVE the credit but they will get it anyway. Those with wealth and power usually get the best publicity. If I'm the king I can make sure the history books say whatever I want them to while I'm in power...
Now, suck it up...if they do a HUGE amount of good with their ill gotten gains, can it outweigh the evil they have done? That is the bigger question and if you believe in a G(g)od of some kind, does it hold any weight with T(t)hem? Is humanity actually better off in the long run especially if they solve some long term ill of humanity outweighing the evil they caused?
I don't know and I only care to a certain point. I couldn't prevent their evils in the first place and if something good eventually comes out of it...then maybe it's all good...
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I was hoping someone could emphasize that this is really cool. It looks like such a basic step to be able to categorize, but their usefullness depends on that. If you can't sort into certain sizes with certain properties, then they're just a novelty.
Cool. Honest government with enforced altruism. It won't happen though. I think there's a great interest for lie detectors to be considered as not reliable enough for court use by our elected officials.
Thanks. You would think two contiguous countrys with similar governments would be closer than they have seemed to be in the past. I have friends who visited Canada and enjoyed themselves immensely and having lived in Florida previously, I can tell you Canadian tourists seem to enjoy themselves in the US. Maybe it's just us commoners who know how to get along.
Well the pigeons will be safe...from Cheney at least. I'm sure they'd satellite photograph the smoke signals and put their best cryptographers on it...either that or sic the EPA on you.
Too many gay stoners? Just kidding.
Canada may be suffering from being too close geographically to the US. Okay, still kidding.
I don't follow Canadian politics enough to offer an opinion. Has the Canadian government seen a radical increase of conservatives or some other kind of shift?
Unfortunately, I think a lot of people will look at this as the ISP participating in a neighborhood watch type program to protect everyone from the "bad" people on the internet. That's how I would certainly try to market it if I worked for an ISP that was instituting this kind of invasion of privacy. "Will it be too late then?" My cynical side says it's too late now. My hopeful side says...nothing.
I understand there is a choice, the options are more the lesser of two evils. Do we give up our stated ideals of supporting non-discrimination or do we give up a significant amount of the public funding we receive? To me, that is exactly how the supreme court said "screw your idealism". You have your choices, idealism or funding. I think we are closer in opinion on this than it may appear to you. The fault may have been mine in that my original comment reflected my extreme dislike of the court's decision and I was perhaps too brief in explaining my opinion. I appoligize for being a spelling/grammar nazi. I try very hard to ignore those items in general but sometimes they really take away from an otherwise passionate, reasoned comment. You know, it's kind of funny looking at our login names...look! sumdumass and alshithead are arguing!
It was there last month or so. I found some good reading on the copyright infringement suit they are facing.
Are you one of his Geek Squad buddies?
And if it matters, I haven't used an Apple since I had an Apple II+ and it was hardly stylish. I'm sure I talk to a lot of people who aren't members of MENSA as I care so little about it I don't bother to ask someone if they are member. My shit smells like...shit. As for being a douch bag...look at my login name. I think it's more apt.
Well, if I speak veeerrryy slowly maybe you'll understand. Maybe I was flippantly trying to say that the poor phrasing of his comment could be construed as a measure of his own intelligence. It might be a little deeper humor than you're capable of comprehending.
You must be drunk or trolling. What are you arguing with me about? Quote from my comment that you just replied to..."State universities get a lot of federal money and the Supreme Court said, "Screw your idealism on gays, we don't care if your policies align with military's. We say you HAVE to let the recruiters on campus even if it violates your policies."." I think you just said the same thing I did. Of course, I'm not really sure because you seem to be A MOSTLY ILLITERATE FUCK. Come on, a couple of typo's is one thing but go back to some elementary school that your tax dollars pay for and learn something.
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A big part of this specific issue is that there are gays who want to support our military but aren't allowed to be members and puclicly be gay.
You know a few of them well enough to judge their intelligence? What does that say about you?
Some people do their jobs well and others don't. I've heard that most of the Geek Squad members are people. That being said, there some really interesting horror stories on the bestbuysucks site (wwww.bestbuysucks.com).
What study?
There are pro's and con's to both sides. For below ground the most obvious con is the combination of water and gravity. Trying to keep a large underground infrastructure dry would seem to be major challenge. Of course many major challenges can be solved or at least made more tractable with more money...hmmm...another con. Maintenance and INSPECTION underground is more difficult...definitely another con. I have a friend who helped manage some of the repair work in Louisianna and Texas after the hurricanes last year. I just called and chatted with him. He says the repair work he saw was for both above and below ground infrastructures. He also says they were able to get more people back on the grid more quickly when their lines were above ground.
I'm not saying one is better than the other but maybe the way it should looked at is which is more appropriate for the location. Underground in urban areas like DC certainly seems appropriate. Underground along coasts where flooding can be expected on a fairly regular basis might not be a good idea.
Yeah, power is power...doesn't matter which party is exercising their control.
Actually I'm using OpenOffice on a Windows XP system and it is slower than Office. My wife is using Office 2003 and it is faster on comparable hardware. That does NOT mean OpenOffice is the lesser application. It does everything I need it to and it didn't cost a cent. Meanwhile, I hate waiting but what the hell, an extra half a minute here and there doesn't amount to much for something that's FREE.
So? What's your point? I remember being able to drive through and buy a mixed drink in LA. Just like McDonald's except it's alcohol take out. How does that apply to my comment? Any state can decide to be proactive or they can wait until they are forced by the feds. The fact is, if they want the federal funds they will eventually comply. NY just jumped on the bandwagon sooner because they are a hotbed of flaming liberals. Of course, I hate flaming conservatives just as much...
I'm absolutely NOT saying they are more important. They are more in the US public's eye. Malaria in the US? I don't know anyone who got malaria in the US and I've lived in FL, LA, NC, SC, and MD...lots of fucking mosquitos. AIDS in US? Only happens to gays and IV drug users according to the stereotype fed to us by the news and our government. Type II diabetes? That's more of a prevention issue than a cure issue although I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of prevention. But, and this is a big but...diabetes, alzheimers, and the flu are the problems that almost everyone in the US can associate with, more so than AIDS and malaria because almost everyone in the US knows someone with one of those issues. AIDS and malaria are not on most US citizen's radar screen. I focused on mainstream problems for the general population of the US...just like most US citizens would. As for the pharmaceutical companies...all they care about is revenue. Got to increase that stock price and that is where their focus is. They aren't philanthropical entities. They are businesses and maybe the world suffers by that.
You are correct sir! Any organization that receives federal funds can elect to go against policy and choose to face the possibility that they won't receive the funds anymore. Great example...the .08 drunken driving limit and mandatory seatbelts. All states now have state law following the federal government's mandates because otherwise they lose their highway funding.
You're only reinforcing my point. Those who distribute the money have the ability to decide how it is spent. State universities get a lot of federal money and the Supreme Court said, "Screw your idealism on gays, we don't care if your policies align with military's. We say you HAVE to let the recruiters on campus even if it violates your policies."
And how is this a surprise? It works the same way here in the US. Do you think the Bush government isn't giving millions of dollars to religious organizations that relflect the Republican party's goals? All governments in power give support to organizations they think will help promote their goals.
Right on target. The schools can put almost any kind of language into their scholarship agreements as long it is not a violation of federal or state laws. Restrictions on the constitution or its amendments are fair game. If you don't like the restrictions you have the OPTION of not taking the scholarship. I don't know of any state or federal law that says you can't WILLINGLY give up some of your rights as citizen in exchange for some other benefit. That's how non-disclosure clauses work. The scholarship recipients have to weigh their options and choose what they personally value the most...assistance in paying for their education or in this case, free speech.
I'm not sure a state univeristy is completely out of bounds here. The supreme court might very well rule in their favor. Hell, they allowed the military to recruit on campus despite the fact that their "don't ask, don't tell" policy violates many state universities' written policies on discrimination against gays.
Oh, you're right...they don't DESERVE the credit but they will get it anyway. Those with wealth and power usually get the best publicity. If I'm the king I can make sure the history books say whatever I want them to while I'm in power...
Now, suck it up...if they do a HUGE amount of good with their ill gotten gains, can it outweigh the evil they have done? That is the bigger question and if you believe in a G(g)od of some kind, does it hold any weight with T(t)hem? Is humanity actually better off in the long run especially if they solve some long term ill of humanity outweighing the evil they caused?
I don't know and I only care to a certain point. I couldn't prevent their evils in the first place and if something good eventually comes out of it...then maybe it's all good...
Yeah, tell that to the parent I replied to. I think you're reinforcing my point...
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Please, could you convert metric fucktons to English fucktons?