I agree with you that there is no absolute evil in this world. Generally people strive to enjoy themselves, we don't chase pain and misery, except when we're fed up and sick in our heads. But that's not really evil either, even terrorists love, probably more than most of us, they just focus it in negative and misguided ways. Feelings of love can quickly turn into hate when we put conditions in it. New-nazists are often hurt and broken people, what better way to conceal it, especially to themselves, than to hate people? Our efforts can be so misguided sometimes because we're stuck in our small immediate world. We tend to favour short-time pleasure and long time misery over short-time pain and long time happiness. This is because we make too simple decisions sometimes, trying to escape ALL pain and misery. The result often makes us more miserable.
Which is the obvious, and correct, choice?
Any choice is correct, because it leads you forward in time. This means you don't really have to attach so much meaning into a meaningless thing - eg. what OS you run and how well it is configured. After you've chosen and configured, what's left for you to do? Do these activities make you happy? If not, don't switch OS or distribution. Step out of the situation. You cannot find perfection on the outside before you find it on the inside anyways.
So the obvious correct choice is to step out of what you define as yourself and make a new choice based on more facts and a bigger perspective. Enjoy life, even when it could be labeled as "bad". When you step out of yourself, you can watch yourself and those around you, laugh at the supposed "misery" you are in now and gain a better insight of what's going on. It's the same thing as looking back at a situation after 1 year, but accellerated. Why do we look back so fondly of past memories? Maybe things weren't so bad after all! Misery is only a state of mind, and so is happiness. Nothing can make you happy but yourself.
(If this is too OT, sorry. I just meditated and felt the need to say this when I read your post)
The best part of it all, was The Guardian publishing the photo in question in full colour on the front page on the first day of the fuss, when this photo was still being called indecent by the authorities. I was impressed they were willing to so dramatically state their position and hold firm.
I think it's great there's still some people that got their balls left. Especially when nobody can really decide anything for themselves without actually seeing the photos. Something which is now illegal in Australia! Since when did the government get the power to neuter us?
dust is dead skin...
you are asking for a flesh eating bacterium...
Nah, just skin. It sounds interesting. Maybe if we send it up in space and blast these little fellas to every corner of the globe, we're FINALLY gonna get rid of dust.
Norwegian trade-law ("angrefristloven") grants you the right to return your bought product (does not apply to services), no questions asked, within 10 days of purchases outside the store (yes, Internet included). If you haven't got an obligatory return-form, the period may be extended to 3 months until you do get it. I can imagine this applies to AO as well, but people aren't aware of this fact. For some reason people have been scared away from asserting their legal rights when it comes down to software. As if you are some kind of pirate if you return software. Don't be a fool, you're only supporting crappy software by being apathetic with your money.
Well, it's definately better than earning yourself new cement-shoes, sleeping with the fishes. In this respect it's an improvement. The people behind gambling have always been crooks, it's just more socially acceptable to be a crook now. As long as you keep up an expensive facade. We automatically look up to and respect people who have more money and power, regardless how they got it. So our value-system is basically flawed, no matter how much we think we're better than others in that respect.
You don't always notice a camera is set up. Especially if they choose to hide it. Ever seen a show called "Candid camera"? I'd say a sign saying you're under surveillance should be obligatory.
He said he thought human rights issues to be more important. At least that's how I understood it. It's subjective though, depends on what values you regard.
If you believe in reincarnation, killing people for terrible crimes often lead to them being reborn almost at once as "uncurable" offenders ("devil child", pathological killers etc). While keeping them alive outside of society gives them time to contemplate their actions and hopefully wisen up.
IF you believe in reincarnation that is.. Just some food for thought. Who knows for sure? Can't base laws on fiction either.
I guess those institutions that run routers seem pretty stupid now. I mean, here we sit on our lazy bums using THEIR bandwidth, CPU power and maintanence-time. Well, time to wrap it up folks. It seemed like a good idea, but it's not beneficial to me, Me, ME.
But this one is almost thinking like a human and is being configured by human brainwaves as we speak (just read the story). Not many years from now, it'll have to leave the university to discover the world on its own. By it's 20th birthday, it'll have found its mother. From then it's only 5 years with video scenes of training w/hip background music and arming itself with submarine guns, before it can exterminate the whole family in order to be loved by Mother alone. Looking forward to it.
I think you've got some issues you need sorting out, such as who the bad people are in this world, and who are the good people.
Who is to say who's bad and who's good? If people just stopped labelling other people, I think we'd be much better off in the first place. Judging others is often a self-fulfilling prophecy, a blind-fold and a cowardly distraction from our own problems.
What if you were injured? A mutant racoon attacked you, biting off your legs. If someone knew where you were, they could come find you if you were missing/maimed by racoons.
I guess he'd accept his fate as any other. If everything you do has to have a safety-net, that shows you're morbidly afraid of risks, injury and death. Which takes away excitement in your life. What happen, happens. You don't have to justify your every action with risk-analysis, guardians and impecable logic. Actions we do out of fear has a way of materializing what we fear, therefore it's often good to have courage and not dwell on everything.
It's the business of the community you live in. Surely there are only disadvantages to it... or am I wrong?
What is a disadvantage? You have already judged the concept of privacy, which limits your vision to other conclusions than what you have reached yourself (although you're open to discussion). It's good that you don't fear being tracked and judged by others, but that doesn't mean you should judge others based on your own assumptions and feelings.
For me personally, privacy is a space that belongs to me. I don't want just anyone to invade that space without notification or admission. I don't want to be treated with a customer-# in some database judging me and my shopping habits, if I don't want to. It doesn't matter if I'm aware of it or not, on some level it affects me no matter what. Especially when getting junk mail/email and phone-calls, or my insurance premium just sky-rocketed. I want to be respected and understood as a human being, and human beings want to be left alone sometimes. Corporations obviously don't understand that concept, and thus should not have the same privileges as human beings. (Ie, it's not illegal to talk behind someone's back)
There is no reason to speed in the first place, let alone do it in someone elses vehicle.
Sure there are, if you just thought a little instead of spewing ignorance to troll/. There are many reasons it's legal to build cars that can go faster than the actual speed limit. Maybe you should look up freedom in your dictionary.
I truly hope they hardwire speed limit on cars and your wife have to give birth in your car. Darwinism may actually be good for something.
As far as it only being the police's place to impose fines for this I totally disagree. Thats like saying the library has no right to fine you for turning in a book late.
I quit being a customer to companies that do this to me. I also will start fining them for incompetence, late delivery and outright lying to me. See how they like that!
Why are you against personal firewalls? It's a great concept for desktop use. True, not everyone should use it for lack of clue of what's going on, but sending out information about them could potentially minimize ISP problems.
Maybe you got a point. It's just that I can't for the life of me think an informed customer would buy it. THAT's whom we should build laws for, not for sheep-consumers. That'll just keep an incentive not to learn, keeping those with knowledge in power in a more general sense. Of course, I don't really believe people will tolerate being told- and treated as sheep for long either.
It's standard closet-psychology. What traits you deep down don't like in yourself, you will want tranferred to your enemies. Just so you can continue to live in your illusion of doing your best, being productive, happy, friendly and helpful.
I know I'm going to be modded down for saying that, but I also know that I'm going to be modded up for saying this. So now I have no clue, and I don't really care. Except that I lied and that my further adulthood depends on at least a +2, or maybe not. Eat my shorts, this is confused-psychology. [Insert Monty Pyton-style clown waving and smiling from the side here]
(GOD, is there life after 50 mod-points?? Halp. Halp.)
Now what can we learn from this kids? As long as Microsoft has the Gun (compaign contributions), you can kiss your sweet open source ass goodbye as new laws get bought. However, there is still light: Use BSD-license, everyone knows they're good. Not like these virus-creating linux freaks. Nooo, they be BAAAAD.
Can anyone with a straight face tell me that they could do the fatal mistake of buying Killustrator instead of Adobe Illustrator, because of name-confusion? I think not. I rest me case.
Point 1. I wasn't talking about getting thrown in jail. I was talking about swat teams breaking into your house, smashing everything in it in search for terrorist weapons and generally making your life miserable because they mistakedly took you for a terrorist.
Point 2. On that low salary, you better be damned sure they have enough work to do. Btw, do you really think nobody will be able to use the cameras for personal agendas within the force? Just because the signal is sent to a computer, doesn't mean it's never going to be supervised by a human.
Point 3. I wasn't talking about fraud-cases, I was talking about more gray areas where the injury is more open to interpretation. Insurance companies are unable to see other people's pain, so to them it maybe clear-cut. Just because someone broke their leg, doesn't mean they should be totally inactive. People with only one leg manage to ski slalom for instance.
Of course, you'll see what you want to see. You just don't realize that safety has a bigger prize, but you seem to be willing to pay it.
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Three Mile Island anyone? I can't believe you have never heard of it.
- Steeltoe
Spout your propaganda to these people.
- Steeltoe
What is more selfish? Constrict distribution only to people who share, or refuse to share anything you add to a project?
- Steeltoe
I agree with you that there is no absolute evil in this world. Generally people strive to enjoy themselves, we don't chase pain and misery, except when we're fed up and sick in our heads. But that's not really evil either, even terrorists love, probably more than most of us, they just focus it in negative and misguided ways. Feelings of love can quickly turn into hate when we put conditions in it. New-nazists are often hurt and broken people, what better way to conceal it, especially to themselves, than to hate people? Our efforts can be so misguided sometimes because we're stuck in our small immediate world. We tend to favour short-time pleasure and long time misery over short-time pain and long time happiness. This is because we make too simple decisions sometimes, trying to escape ALL pain and misery. The result often makes us more miserable.
Which is the obvious, and correct, choice?
Any choice is correct, because it leads you forward in time. This means you don't really have to attach so much meaning into a meaningless thing - eg. what OS you run and how well it is configured. After you've chosen and configured, what's left for you to do? Do these activities make you happy? If not, don't switch OS or distribution. Step out of the situation. You cannot find perfection on the outside before you find it on the inside anyways.
So the obvious correct choice is to step out of what you define as yourself and make a new choice based on more facts and a bigger perspective. Enjoy life, even when it could be labeled as "bad". When you step out of yourself, you can watch yourself and those around you, laugh at the supposed "misery" you are in now and gain a better insight of what's going on. It's the same thing as looking back at a situation after 1 year, but accellerated. Why do we look back so fondly of past memories? Maybe things weren't so bad after all! Misery is only a state of mind, and so is happiness. Nothing can make you happy but yourself.
(If this is too OT, sorry. I just meditated and felt the need to say this when I read your post)
- Steeltoe
The best part of it all, was The Guardian publishing the photo in question in full colour on the front page on the first day of the fuss, when this photo was still being called indecent by the authorities. I was impressed they were willing to so dramatically state their position and hold firm.
I think it's great there's still some people that got their balls left. Especially when nobody can really decide anything for themselves without actually seeing the photos. Something which is now illegal in Australia! Since when did the government get the power to neuter us?
- Steeltoe
dust is dead skin...
you are asking for a flesh eating bacterium...
Nah, just skin. It sounds interesting. Maybe if we send it up in space and blast these little fellas to every corner of the globe, we're FINALLY gonna get rid of dust.
- Steeltoe
Norwegian trade-law ("angrefristloven") grants you the right to return your bought product (does not apply to services), no questions asked, within 10 days of purchases outside the store (yes, Internet included). If you haven't got an obligatory return-form, the period may be extended to 3 months until you do get it. I can imagine this applies to AO as well, but people aren't aware of this fact. For some reason people have been scared away from asserting their legal rights when it comes down to software. As if you are some kind of pirate if you return software. Don't be a fool, you're only supporting crappy software by being apathetic with your money.
Here's a norwegian link on the law.
- Steeltoe
Well, it's definately better than earning yourself new cement-shoes, sleeping with the fishes. In this respect it's an improvement. The people behind gambling have always been crooks, it's just more socially acceptable to be a crook now. As long as you keep up an expensive facade. We automatically look up to and respect people who have more money and power, regardless how they got it. So our value-system is basically flawed, no matter how much we think we're better than others in that respect.
- Steeltoe
You don't always notice a camera is set up. Especially if they choose to hide it. Ever seen a show called "Candid camera"? I'd say a sign saying you're under surveillance should be obligatory.
- Steeltoe
He said he thought human rights issues to be more important. At least that's how I understood it. It's subjective though, depends on what values you regard.
- Steeltoe
If you believe in reincarnation, killing people for terrible crimes often lead to them being reborn almost at once as "uncurable" offenders ("devil child", pathological killers etc). While keeping them alive outside of society gives them time to contemplate their actions and hopefully wisen up.
IF you believe in reincarnation that is.. Just some food for thought. Who knows for sure? Can't base laws on fiction either.
- Steeltoe
I guess those institutions that run routers seem pretty stupid now. I mean, here we sit on our lazy bums using THEIR bandwidth, CPU power and maintanence-time. Well, time to wrap it up folks. It seemed like a good idea, but it's not beneficial to me, Me, ME.
- Steeltoe
But this one is almost thinking like a human and is being configured by human brainwaves as we speak (just read the story). Not many years from now, it'll have to leave the university to discover the world on its own. By it's 20th birthday, it'll have found its mother. From then it's only 5 years with video scenes of training w/hip background music and arming itself with submarine guns, before it can exterminate the whole family in order to be loved by Mother alone. Looking forward to it.
- Steeltoe
I think you've got some issues you need sorting out, such as who the bad people are in this world, and who are the good people.
Who is to say who's bad and who's good? If people just stopped labelling other people, I think we'd be much better off in the first place. Judging others is often a self-fulfilling prophecy, a blind-fold and a cowardly distraction from our own problems.
What if you were injured? A mutant racoon attacked you, biting off your legs. If someone knew where you were, they could come find you if you were missing/maimed by racoons.
I guess he'd accept his fate as any other. If everything you do has to have a safety-net, that shows you're morbidly afraid of risks, injury and death. Which takes away excitement in your life. What happen, happens. You don't have to justify your every action with risk-analysis, guardians and impecable logic. Actions we do out of fear has a way of materializing what we fear, therefore it's often good to have courage and not dwell on everything.
It's the business of the community you live in. Surely there are only disadvantages to it... or am I wrong?
What is a disadvantage? You have already judged the concept of privacy, which limits your vision to other conclusions than what you have reached yourself (although you're open to discussion). It's good that you don't fear being tracked and judged by others, but that doesn't mean you should judge others based on your own assumptions and feelings.
For me personally, privacy is a space that belongs to me. I don't want just anyone to invade that space without notification or admission. I don't want to be treated with a customer-# in some database judging me and my shopping habits, if I don't want to. It doesn't matter if I'm aware of it or not, on some level it affects me no matter what. Especially when getting junk mail/email and phone-calls, or my insurance premium just sky-rocketed. I want to be respected and understood as a human being, and human beings want to be left alone sometimes. Corporations obviously don't understand that concept, and thus should not have the same privileges as human beings. (Ie, it's not illegal to talk behind someone's back)
- Steeltoe
There is no reason to speed in the first place, let alone do it in someone elses vehicle.
/. There are many reasons it's legal to build cars that can go faster than the actual speed limit. Maybe you should look up freedom in your dictionary.
Sure there are, if you just thought a little instead of spewing ignorance to troll
I truly hope they hardwire speed limit on cars and your wife have to give birth in your car. Darwinism may actually be good for something.
As far as it only being the police's place to impose fines for this I totally disagree. Thats like saying the library has no right to fine you for turning in a book late.
I quit being a customer to companies that do this to me. I also will start fining them for incompetence, late delivery and outright lying to me. See how they like that!
Sorry for being crampy, but I just had to bite.
- Steeltoe
Why are you against personal firewalls? It's a great concept for desktop use. True, not everyone should use it for lack of clue of what's going on, but sending out information about them could potentially minimize ISP problems.
- Steeltoe
Maybe you got a point. It's just that I can't for the life of me think an informed customer would buy it. THAT's whom we should build laws for, not for sheep-consumers. That'll just keep an incentive not to learn, keeping those with knowledge in power in a more general sense. Of course, I don't really believe people will tolerate being told- and treated as sheep for long either.
- Steeltoe
It's standard closet-psychology. What traits you deep down don't like in yourself, you will want tranferred to your enemies. Just so you can continue to live in your illusion of doing your best, being productive, happy, friendly and helpful.
I know I'm going to be modded down for saying that, but I also know that I'm going to be modded up for saying this. So now I have no clue, and I don't really care. Except that I lied and that my further adulthood depends on at least a +2, or maybe not. Eat my shorts, this is confused-psychology. [Insert Monty Pyton-style clown waving and smiling from the side here]
(GOD, is there life after 50 mod-points?? Halp. Halp.)
- Steeltoe
Good. Bad. I'm the man with the Gun.
- Ash, Army of Darkness
Now what can we learn from this kids? As long as Microsoft has the Gun (compaign contributions), you can kiss your sweet open source ass goodbye as new laws get bought. However, there is still light: Use BSD-license, everyone knows they're good. Not like these virus-creating linux freaks. Nooo, they be BAAAAD.
Walk in the light.
- Children of the Light (Wheel of Time)
- Steeltoe
Shut up and let the Score:4, Insightful talk. They always do ;*)
- Steeltoe
Can anyone with a straight face tell me that they could do the fatal mistake of buying Killustrator instead of Adobe Illustrator, because of name-confusion? I think not. I rest me case.
- Steeltoe
I think you may be mistaking me for your typical ignorant American slashbot.
Hehe, thinking a little extra never hurt anybody. The truly wise regard himself as ignorant.
Also, what's the deal with that Art Of Living crap? Didn't you know that Ravi Shankar is a con artist?
No, but perhaps you can enlighten me with some info on that?
- Steeltoe
Now I don't need to post anything to this story, you summed it up nicely. :-)
- Steeltoe
How patronising you are.
Sorry, I just wanted to get you thinking a little. I didn't mean anything by it, I swear.
(Notice how I know can't help be anything but patronising)
- Steeltoe
Point 1. I wasn't talking about getting thrown in jail. I was talking about swat teams breaking into your house, smashing everything in it in search for terrorist weapons and generally making your life miserable because they mistakedly took you for a terrorist.
Point 2. On that low salary, you better be damned sure they have enough work to do. Btw, do you really think nobody will be able to use the cameras for personal agendas within the force? Just because the signal is sent to a computer, doesn't mean it's never going to be supervised by a human.
Point 3. I wasn't talking about fraud-cases, I was talking about more gray areas where the injury is more open to interpretation. Insurance companies are unable to see other people's pain, so to them it maybe clear-cut. Just because someone broke their leg, doesn't mean they should be totally inactive. People with only one leg manage to ski slalom for instance.
Of course, you'll see what you want to see. You just don't realize that safety has a bigger prize, but you seem to be willing to pay it.
- Steeltoe