"If you don't like that a vendor's device is locking you out, don't buy it. Is that so hard?"
Can be as hard as not using ms-office.
Also by allowing to run modified code they allow they allow customers to hire people for added features. Extends job-market for OSS-programmers, ie the people who wrote the stuff in the first place. That kind of advertising is taken away with DRM.
"At worst case scenario, you won't be able to run certain propriatary apps when running nonDRMed stuff. big deal, sounds like your don't want to run them anyways."
Having multimedia or not makes or breaks a desktop today.
Whatever survival-stuff we can build in space we can build on earth too. A catastrophy may poison everything, but if be build a space-station on earth, its independend of air and water. A meteor hits only one side of the earth. But an earth-station can be far bigger (or more numerous). And a space-station can be killed by a homeless screw-drewer (or meteor else of that size), while an earth-station survives the biggest meteors we know, That space-thingy will doomsday much earlier than earth.
If i have an animal which is sick in childhood, for example does not get enough of mothers milk, it usually stays the little one.
And the civil-war time is not exactly a healthy one. Child-work, people fleeing europe for economic reasons, cruel working conditions (early factories are no fun) etc. Sounds like a lot babies without "enough milk".
Which is why the germans supported a bit "socialism" (unions, schools etc) at Bismarcs time. Labor should be as cheap as possible, yes, but then you get bad soldiers..
I agree for most parts. But i disagree about scale. ISS needs all our space-capacity to keep two people alive. I think to call something a first step, that would be 30+ people. And that is nothing we can enforce. At least not without reducing our capablities to live on earth. I guess even launching enough rockets would do interesting things to our atmosphere.
In my experience it is a good way not to enforce things head thru wall, but to explore a lot things on a much smaller scale. Because the appointed head-thinkers are rarely the guys with the real insights and luck. But these other guys will never get the big scale money. With a lot small projects, well, peanuts are still food. So if we go full steam to mars, we will go with very big steam engines. If we do many small projects,we will get stuff like this inflatable space-station. Collect a lot of such small clever stuff and a colony may really work. Not as early as full steam to mars, but much more sustainable. If it is about rescue all humans when the sun blows up, we have a lot time to do it right;)
The post with this? "and don't think you will be living on mars. living on mars would be so costly for people still on earth (who would have to be your lifeline) that it would not be worth it. lets be clear - there is no concept of colonizing mars. there is only people who are residing in such a place while people on earth keep them alive"
That does not say engineering, that says "need earthling to feed".
Signals are about something, not the things itself. You can have a lot makers, pick the best one and make signals about them. In a forum about it high signal to noise is good, but there should be something to speak about:)
The bugs where found with automated tools to make "broken" files. Seems to work well. Means there will be a much higher detection-rate and it is much harder to keep up patching.
Also Office is the new vector of attack, no longer IE or email. Office is now the format for the web, and people can't avoid opening files coming from the outside. A good reason to examine it closely.
Columbus? You mean doing something completely wrong and still beeing right? Happens 1 time in 500 years. We should give everyone who ask for a ship a fleet to repeat it.
What happened to explorers? Government decided to give 0.7% of its money to spaceship-builders instead of giving it to explorers. There are a lot good frontiers in deep sea or in laboratories (medicine, nano etc), even music, room for segways, flying cars, new ways of living together. Where real explorers find no money/support. Instead they dump billions in the vacuum.
"I'm simply shocked and amazed your post got modded +5! Where to begin?"
History repeats, you five, me shocked:)
"Research is a burden for private organizations?! More like, research (coupled with development) is what enables them to produce new, useful, and innovative products which makes them lots and lots of money!"
Thats why they prefer to cut down on research.
"Way to cherry pick some lame sounding inventions. You and I and everyone else knows scores of incredibly valuable things came out of our race to the moon in the 60s and 70s."
Do you count scifi-stories?
"You're assuming that if those dollars were freed up, they'd go to fixing up our messed up planet. What makes you think that would happen?"
Compard to thinking like "I promise that if those dollars where spend for space, they'd go to incredible inventions."? Your parent sounds more reasonbable.
"The dinosaurs went extinct because they didn't have a space program."
The dinos would have to keep it running for 100 million years to make a difference..
What poor? You can simply found more scientists, startups, bright ideas if you dont need a rocket to try one. And you cant found them if the money goes into space.
Funny, Titan rockets never went to the moon. Apollo went to the moon. Please read your space history.
Well, do you realize that the Saturn rockets burned 20,000 gal. of fuel per second (!) to go to the Moon then?
- transoceanic ships (why go to another country, we have everything we need here!)
- cars (horses were far better in the early years)
- airplanes (think how many people spent their life savings working on one, and never made progress)
Please look at the US budget. NASA's entire budget is 0.7% of that
Please look at what you write. Which of ships, cars or airplanes got 0.7% of a nations budget? In an infantile stage, because of reasons like "The human race needs to go to the moon"?
the US military can drop onto pretty much any point on earth and build a base from scratch.
On earth, yes.
Building something in space is indeed far more difficult, but distinct in that it's an expansion of the domain of humanity.
Not only more difficult, but more expensive. Gold is very cheap per kg compared to stuff brought to space. Not as in "some easy printable paper" but as in "ressources which could be used elsewhere". Fuel etc. Stuff which could feed billions of people on earth feed a few hundred on moon, if "expansion" is meant serious (suv and all;)
Though, in the 'sun is eventually going to blow up' timescale, getting off this rock is the #1 priority.
Blowing up? Sun? You can live full lives a few million times before that will happen. Regarding timescale. Regarding sustainable, if you blow up all the ressources to go to space, its much shorter.
To put it bluntly, we need to get off this hunk of rock we're on and start colonizing elsewhere.
Insigthfull? For some training you could blow up your lovely rocky home and colonize on some little island somewhere in Alaska. Don't expect colonies in space to be easier.
a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange;
That means if i accompany the sourcecode immediate, there is no need to keep it available longer?
If i write a downloader which downloads all sources immediate, ie fetches the exact versions from the repository where i got that stuff, i am ok? Would be a big download, but..
3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
Doubles the download, but why not add source?
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
I read "for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution,".
If i pay a server for 3 years, thats performing source distribution? So i can request that money for source?
And, how about sourceforge etc? Sure a distro is large, but could they host it?
c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.)
That sounds like referencing another distro would do it.
If somebody came to you and said "hey, I've got this great new way to build a bridge! Instead of making up plans, we'll just start building it! We'll build it out of popsicle sticks first, and then we'll go in and add some steel beams, and toss some pavement on top of that," you'd say they were insane. Nobody does stuff like that in the real world -- yet that's exactly what a lot of poorly-managed 'agile' software projects are doing. They're getting short-term prototyping gains but at the cost of maintainability and probably stability as well.
In the real world you can't switch gravity off while developing.;)
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"Do you really think that non-locked computers are going to just disappear?"
Non-windows-preloaded did.
"If you don't like that a vendor's device is locking you out, don't buy it. Is that so hard?"
Can be as hard as not using ms-office.
Also by allowing to run modified code they allow they allow customers to hire people for added features.
Extends job-market for OSS-programmers, ie the people who wrote the stuff in the first place.
That kind of advertising is taken away with DRM.
"At worst case scenario, you won't be able to run certain propriatary apps when running nonDRMed stuff. big deal, sounds like your don't want to run them anyways."
Having multimedia or not makes or breaks a desktop today.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/moon_mechani cs_0303018.html
Whatever survival-stuff we can build in space we can build on earth too. A catastrophy may poison everything, but if be build a space-station on earth, its independend of air and water. A meteor hits only one side of the earth. But an earth-station can be far bigger (or more numerous). And a space-station can be killed by a homeless screw-drewer (or meteor else of that size), while an earth-station survives the biggest meteors we know, That space-thingy will doomsday much earlier than earth.
He will not be totally unprepeared. Instead prepared for the gouvernment to take over.
You mean being pumped full of drugs and chemicals protects against chasing saber-toothed tigers? :)
If i have an animal which is sick in childhood, for example does not get enough of mothers milk, it usually stays the little one.
And the civil-war time is not exactly a healthy one. Child-work, people fleeing europe for economic reasons, cruel working conditions (early factories are no fun) etc. Sounds like a lot babies without "enough milk".
Which is why the germans supported a bit "socialism" (unions, schools etc) at Bismarcs time. Labor should be as cheap as possible, yes, but then you get bad soldiers..
I agree for most parts. But i disagree about scale. ISS needs all our space-capacity to keep two people alive. I think to call something a first step, that would be 30+ people. And that is nothing we can enforce. At least not without reducing our capablities to live on earth. I guess even launching enough rockets would do interesting things to our atmosphere.
;)
In my experience it is a good way not to enforce things head thru wall, but to explore a lot things on a much smaller scale. Because the appointed head-thinkers are rarely the guys with the real insights and luck. But these other guys will never get the big scale money. With a lot small projects, well, peanuts are still food. So if we go full steam to mars, we will go with very big steam engines. If we do many small projects,we will get stuff like this inflatable space-station. Collect a lot of such small clever stuff and a colony may really work. Not as early as full steam to mars, but much more sustainable. If it is about rescue all humans when the sun blows up, we have a lot time to do it right
Radiation? Not a hard, but a heavy problem. And sending heavy to space is hard.
The post with this?
"and don't think you will be living on mars. living on mars would be so costly for people still on earth (who would have to be your lifeline) that it would not be worth it. lets be clear - there is no concept of colonizing mars. there is only people who are residing in such a place while people on earth keep them alive"
That does not say engineering, that says "need earthling to feed".
Signals are about something, not the things itself. You can have a lot makers, pick the best one and make signals about them. In a forum about it high signal to noise is good, but there should be something to speak about :)
The bugs where found with automated tools to make "broken" files. Seems to work well. Means there will be a much higher detection-rate and it is much harder to keep up patching.
Also Office is the new vector of attack, no longer IE or email. Office is now the format for the web, and people can't avoid opening files coming from the outside. A good reason to examine it closely.
Columbus?
You mean doing something completely wrong and still beeing right? Happens 1 time in 500 years. We should give everyone who ask for a ship a fleet to repeat it.
What happened to explorers?
Government decided to give 0.7% of its money to spaceship-builders instead of giving it to explorers. There are a lot good frontiers in deep sea or in laboratories (medicine, nano etc), even music, room for segways, flying cars, new ways of living together. Where real explorers find no money/support. Instead they dump billions in the vacuum.
"I'm simply shocked and amazed your post got modded +5! Where to begin?"
:)
History repeats, you five, me shocked
"Research is a burden for private organizations?! More like, research (coupled with development) is what enables them to produce new, useful, and innovative products which makes them lots and lots of money!"
Thats why they prefer to cut down on research.
"Way to cherry pick some lame sounding inventions. You and I and everyone else knows scores of incredibly valuable things came out of our race to the moon in the 60s and 70s."
Do you count scifi-stories?
"You're assuming that if those dollars were freed up, they'd go to fixing up our messed up planet. What makes you think that would happen?"
Compard to thinking like "I promise that if those dollars where spend for space, they'd go to incredible inventions."? Your parent sounds more reasonbable.
"The dinosaurs went extinct because they didn't have a space program."
The dinos would have to keep it running for 100 million years to make a difference..
What poor? You can simply found more scientists, startups, bright ideas if you dont need a rocket to try one. And you cant found them if the money goes into space.
if you have some million people for each astronaut making stuff, on Earth. Having some kind of industry in space is far away, its not only some food.
And, how about sourceforge etc? Sure a distro is large, but could they host it?
That sounds like referencing another distro would do it.