> what happens if you accidentally end up at the site?
This is the scary bit. I'm not a child molestor or a paedophile, but I use the web a lot, and I'm not a stranger to the occasional bit of pr0n. We all know how easy it is to get redirected to a site, to download a deliberately mis-named file through P2P, to click a file in a newsgroup that isn't what you expected, or even to have your computer compromised and "evidence" placed on it.
The way I see it, if you get caught doing any of these things, the level of hysteria in this country, and the public pressure on the police to "stop these monsters" means the burden of proof is on *you*. People are not prepared to believe anyone charged with these offences might be innocent. The file's on your computer, the ISP log says you were at the site, ergo you're fucked. Even if you are acquited, remember that "there's no smoke without fire".
So, you're probably going to prison (as a "nonce"), when you get out you're on the sex offenders list, and if the moral majority get their way, that list will be public. Anyone can go to the library, find out where you live, then come round and set fire to your house while you're asleep. (Look what happened when The Sun printed some names and addresses from said list.)
Even if you did it deliberately, five mintues looking at a couple of pics (which might very well disgust you anyway) really shouldn't be enough to destroy your life.
It's staggering that people will swallow the argument that some loser tugging over pics he found on USEnet in his spare room is what perpetuates child abuse. BUT THEY DO!
This government seems intent on making us all criminals. Preferably ones that are easy to catch and fine. It shows they're tough on crime, getting results, and keeping our children safe, and how could it be easier to catch criminals than to make up a few new web related offences, then sit back and watch those log files? That's where it's heading, and it's frightening.
(Note for those with a tendancy to take everything literally: the "you" in this post is general - it doesn't refer specifically to the parent poster. It is also meant for those who speak English as their first language.)
You call yourselves geeks, you chew people out for the smallest technical error in a linux thread, you go apeshit if someone refers to "Hans Solo" or says Python has cleaner syntax than perl, but you don't take the time to learn the rudiments of the English language.
English is a geek's dream. So much more rich and complicated than anything computing has to offer. Full of curiosities, paradoxes and rules, and incredibly elegant and powerful. Dig in. Enjoy. You can read some pretty amazing books while you're at it.
You confuse "you're" and "your", "they're" and "their", "loose" and "lose", and when someone takes a moment of their time to try and teach you a little something, you call them a "Nazi".
When your C compiler chokes on "maloc" do you whine that "it's obvious what I meant and anyway, languages evolve"?
If you present the linguistic skills and maturity of a nine year old, you might find it's hard to get people to listen to your opinions, however valid they might be.
I'm not nitpicking for the sake of it, I really want people to go out and enjoy learning a valuable skill. Language is wonderful. Make the most of it.
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I used to feel the same. Finally I admitted I'd made the wrong choice, re-ripped as VBR mp3s, got an iPod and never looked back.
It's not the first time (and won't be the last) that I'd backed the wrong horse. For instance, I preferred the Amiga to the PC, but I lost out there too. Market forces meant that I either stayed back with my little minority interest and my politics, or I (begrudgingly at first) followed the herd.
I held out for a good while for ogg support, now I've had 9 months of happy iPodding and I couldn't care less. I really don't see the benefit of vorbis over decent bitrate VBR. I also don't think 95% of the people who've bought iPods have any idea at all what ogg, flac, aiff, audible and so on are./.ers tend to overestimate the real world impact of their pet technologies.
Whenever I see the spec, though, I always wonder how many people are carrying round an iPod full of WAVs...
Cool, thanks. For all the iPod's much vaunted ergonomics, I've never felt those buttons were ideally positioned. This sounds like a good idea, but it's hardly enough to tempt me to upgrade!
Amen. I still use Bars and Pipes on the Amiga. Not anywhere near so stable as Pro-24, but it just suits the way I like to work.
The people saying you should junk the old hardware and software which help you work are idiots. Making music isn't like compiling code - a faster computer doesn't necessarily make you more productive.
When a person creates, the tools they use are important. Some people like oil paints, some like acrylics. Some people like Pro-24, some like Cakewalk. Some like digital, some like analog.
I don't think the average user switches his OS. He (unwittingly) gets a new OS when he buys a new PC. And when he buys a new PC he goes to the shop, sees 4GHz Intel at $1000, 1GHz Mac at $1500, and buys the PC. There's really not a lot linux can do about that.
do you think people shouldn't have a right express whatever their thinking just because their english skills arent as good as yours?
No! But I do want to make people aware that they will be taken more seriously if they take a little time to write and spell properly. However good your point might be, if you can't articulate it, its force will be lost.
why should anyone assume that you know what you're talking about just because you spend more time worrying about spelling and punctuating?
Firstly, with halfway decent grammar and spelling, it should be clear what I'm trying to say. Bad grammar introduces ambiguity. For instance, "loose" means something different to "lose".
Secondly, it shows I've thought beforehand about what I want to say, and that I've taken the time to read back what I've written. Bad spelling - even typos - suggest someone's dashed something off without thinking.
Often I write a comment on here, read it back to check my English, then realise I've contradicted myself, made no point whatsoever, or wasted my time in some other way. Then I just click "back" and carry on reading.
As for my education, the last English lesson I had was when I was 16. I got average grades from a very average school. (Grade C GCSE for anyone who knows what that means.) I don't know a pronoun from a participle. I've always read quite a bit though, and I guess you just get a feeling for when things "look right".
You're right though, I do need to get over myself.
> 1000x performance increases are NOT gotten by changing your OS.
I beg to differ. I have many Slashdot posts from exceptionally informed sources stating that simply by using teh gentoo with -O6 and optimizing for j00r CPU such performance increases are easily obtainable.
your taking it too seriously! no need to loose your cool!
There are my pet hates. "your" instead of "you're", and "loose" instead of "lose".
I agree with almost every word you say, but if you think Americans write bad English, you should see what a mess the English make of it. Do American schools teach any kind of spelling or grammar any more? Ours don't seem to.
I'm not asking for everyone to write perfect English. I just don't want to be regularly depressed because people can't master their native tongue, or spell simple four letter words.
Seriously people, if you can't use the basic tools of language, why should anyone assume that your grasp of what you're talking about is any better?
Wasn't meant to sound superior! I use both (and OpenBSD) myself. I'm expecting this thread to be full of ill-informed "linux does this Slowaris is teh sux" posts and whining about "why won't they GPL it it"?
So I guess I'm saying, if you're 100% linux, that's cool. I certainly don't need to hear about j00r leet gentoo boxen in a Solaris thread. You know the kind of person I mean!
Solaris users could not care less whether Sun ports it to linux or not.
Sun are *not* evil because they don't immediately give away the source to a product which has taken them years and $$$s to develop and which gives them an edge in a competetive market.
Some people just prefer Solaris. If you prefer linux, that's fine.
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> It's the people who actually *pay* for this stuff who are the problem.
I agree. But who pays for their pr0n in this day and age?
A person can easily build up a substantial collection of "normal" pr0n without spending any money. I presume the same goes for the kiddy stuff.
> what happens if you accidentally end up at the site?
This is the scary bit. I'm not a child molestor or a paedophile, but I use the web a lot, and I'm not a stranger to the occasional bit of pr0n. We all know how easy it is to get redirected to a site, to download a deliberately mis-named file through P2P, to click a file in a newsgroup that isn't what you expected, or even to have your computer compromised and "evidence" placed on it.
The way I see it, if you get caught doing any of these things, the level of hysteria in this country, and the public pressure on the police to "stop these monsters" means the burden of proof is on *you*. People are not prepared to believe anyone charged with these offences might be innocent. The file's on your computer, the ISP log says you were at the site, ergo you're fucked. Even if you are acquited, remember that "there's no smoke without fire".
So, you're probably going to prison (as a "nonce"), when you get out you're on the sex offenders list, and if the moral majority get their way, that list will be public. Anyone can go to the library, find out where you live, then come round and set fire to your house while you're asleep. (Look what happened when The Sun printed some names and addresses from said list.)
Even if you did it deliberately, five mintues looking at a couple of pics (which might very well disgust you anyway) really shouldn't be enough to destroy your life.
It's staggering that people will swallow the argument that some loser tugging over pics he found on USEnet in his spare room is what perpetuates child abuse. BUT THEY DO!
This government seems intent on making us all criminals. Preferably ones that are easy to catch and fine. It shows they're tough on crime, getting results, and keeping our children safe, and how could it be easier to catch criminals than to make up a few new web related offences, then sit back and watch those log files? That's where it's heading, and it's frightening.
Don't worry. We'll have ID cards soon, then everything will be fine again.
There's nothing better on Slashdot than being modded down as flamebait *and* being right!
> Sooo... you've got about as much spine as cooked spaghetti?
:-)
I've got the balls to post on Slashdot as a non-anonymous user!
(Note for those with a tendancy to take everything literally: the "you" in this post is general - it doesn't refer specifically to the parent poster. It is also meant for those who speak English as their first language.)
You call yourselves geeks, you chew people out for the smallest technical error in a linux thread, you go apeshit if someone refers to "Hans Solo" or says Python has cleaner syntax than perl, but you don't take the time to learn the rudiments of the English language.
English is a geek's dream. So much more rich and complicated than anything computing has to offer. Full of curiosities, paradoxes and rules, and incredibly elegant and powerful. Dig in. Enjoy. You can read some pretty amazing books while you're at it.
You confuse "you're" and "your", "they're" and "their", "loose" and "lose", and when someone takes a moment of their time to try and teach you a little something, you call them a "Nazi".
When your C compiler chokes on "maloc" do you whine that "it's obvious what I meant and anyway, languages evolve"?
If you present the linguistic skills and maturity of a nine year old, you might find it's hard to get people to listen to your opinions, however valid they might be.
I'm not nitpicking for the sake of it, I really want people to go out and enjoy learning a valuable skill. Language is wonderful. Make the most of it.
I used to feel the same. Finally I admitted I'd made the wrong choice, re-ripped as VBR mp3s, got an iPod and never looked back.
/.ers tend to overestimate the real world impact of their pet technologies.
It's not the first time (and won't be the last) that I'd backed the wrong horse. For instance, I preferred the Amiga to the PC, but I lost out there too. Market forces meant that I either stayed back with my little minority interest and my politics, or I (begrudgingly at first) followed the herd.
I held out for a good while for ogg support, now I've had 9 months of happy iPodding and I couldn't care less. I really don't see the benefit of vorbis over decent bitrate VBR. I also don't think 95% of the people who've bought iPods have any idea at all what ogg, flac, aiff, audible and so on are.
Whenever I see the spec, though, I always wonder how many people are carrying round an iPod full of WAVs...
Cool, thanks. For all the iPod's much vaunted ergonomics, I've never felt those buttons were ideally positioned. This sounds like a good idea, but it's hardly enough to tempt me to upgrade!
And that the plural of box is boxes?
And that the plural of pizza is not pizza's?
And don't even get me *started* on "Unixen"!
blah blah no ogg blah blah too expensive blah blah clever marketing blah blah my rio etc etc etc.
But before we degenerate into that, can somebody kindly explain how the "click wheel" is different from the wheel on the 3G iPod?
Amen. I still use Bars and Pipes on the Amiga. Not anywhere near so stable as Pro-24, but it just suits the way I like to work.
The people saying you should junk the old hardware and software which help you work are idiots. Making music isn't like compiling code - a faster computer doesn't necessarily make you more productive.
When a person creates, the tools they use are important. Some people like oil paints, some like acrylics. Some people like Pro-24, some like Cakewalk. Some like digital, some like analog.
the what guy? Does anyone have a link?
I don't think the average user switches his OS. He (unwittingly) gets a new OS when he buys a new PC. And when he buys a new PC he goes to the shop, sees 4GHz Intel at $1000, 1GHz Mac at $1500, and buys the PC. There's really not a lot linux can do about that.
do you think people shouldn't have a right express whatever their thinking just because their english skills arent as good as yours?
No! But I do want to make people aware that they will be taken more seriously if they take a little time to write and spell properly. However good your point might be, if you can't articulate it, its force will be lost.
why should anyone assume that you know what you're talking about just because you spend more time worrying about spelling and punctuating?
Firstly, with halfway decent grammar and spelling, it should be clear what I'm trying to say. Bad grammar introduces ambiguity. For instance, "loose" means something different to "lose".
Secondly, it shows I've thought beforehand about what I want to say, and that I've taken the time to read back what I've written. Bad spelling - even typos - suggest someone's dashed something off without thinking.
Often I write a comment on here, read it back to check my English, then realise I've contradicted myself, made no point whatsoever, or wasted my time in some other way. Then I just click "back" and carry on reading.
As for my education, the last English lesson I had was when I was 16. I got average grades from a very average school. (Grade C GCSE for anyone who knows what that means.) I don't know a pronoun from a participle. I've always read quite a bit though, and I guess you just get a feeling for when things "look right".
You're right though, I do need to get over myself.
LOL!!!! And that's when my gentoo compile finishes and the 2.6 kernel hits debian stable!!!!!!!!!! OMG teh funny!!!
So more special effects don't make for a better film? Yeah, Jurassic Park would have *rocked* without those stupid dinosaurs.
It does say this was just one operation. I'm betting the first time they ran
DELETE FROM clients
It took 36 seconds to return. The second time it pretty much came straight back.
> 1000x performance increases are NOT gotten by changing your OS.
I beg to differ. I have many Slashdot posts from exceptionally informed sources stating that simply by using teh gentoo with -O6 and optimizing for j00r CPU such performance increases are easily obtainable.
> Now if they had moved to MySQL...
That *is* a joke, right?
your taking it too seriously! no need to loose your cool!
There are my pet hates. "your" instead of "you're", and "loose" instead of "lose".
I agree with almost every word you say, but if you think Americans write bad English, you should see what a mess the English make of it. Do American schools teach any kind of spelling or grammar any more? Ours don't seem to.
I'm not asking for everyone to write perfect English. I just don't want to be regularly depressed because people can't master their native tongue, or spell simple four letter words.
Seriously people, if you can't use the basic tools of language, why should anyone assume that your grasp of what you're talking about is any better?
And what retard modded the parent "funny"?
Dprobes is discussed (briefly) in the announcement paper. (PDF - sorry.)
That's kind of like saying perl is an all round text processing tool, then asking why using perl is better than using cut, sort, and tr.
You can do a lot with cut sort and tr. Often they're all you need, but perl lets you solve problems those three tools can't even address.
I'd recommend grabbing a Solaris 10 beta and having a play with this thing. It's pretty amazing.
Wasn't meant to sound superior! I use both (and OpenBSD) myself. I'm expecting this thread to be full of ill-informed "linux does this Slowaris is teh sux" posts and whining about "why won't they GPL it it"?
So I guess I'm saying, if you're 100% linux, that's cool. I certainly don't need to hear about j00r leet gentoo boxen in a Solaris thread. You know the kind of person I mean!
No, linux does not already do this.
Solaris users could not care less whether Sun ports it to linux or not.
Sun are *not* evil because they don't immediately give away the source to a product which has taken them years and $$$s to develop and which gives them an edge in a competetive market.
Some people just prefer Solaris. If you prefer linux, that's fine.
Whoah, for a moment there I thought you said you were in the bedroom, with your wife, and you wanted to *play with Python scripts*!