Sure there is: it's a free market, and they paid for them.
I hate domain squatting as much as the next guy. I agree with the Parent; it's more like patent warehousing than real estate investments.
But granted that, they're still legal. Which, as another poster so eloquently stated, does not make them not scumbags. I'm not so sure there's an effective way to legislate this issue in a way that doesn't significantly impact other rights which need to be protected.
Parent wasn't trolling; he made a very valid point. Google made the tool, Dell configured the machine. Dell turned the software to spyware. Google has, AFAIK, no under-the-radar delivery system for any of their software, including the URL redirection tools they've made (there's a few). However, system configurators like Dell have been doing this crap for years. Our sniper's scope should be aimed towards Round Rock, not Mountain View.
Being an American citizen makes me deserve the rights of an American citizen more than someone who is not an American citizen, yes. Is that difficult to understand?
So, it's okay with you if I take the next job you apply for, pay no taxes while putting a tax burden on you, and operate as a criminal in your country?
I don't belive in "arbitrarily high wages for relatively unskilled jobs". Sorry, you guessed wrongly; I do not belong to or support any union. I work my ass off and frankly, get paid less to do many jobs that persons/companies in my field get a hell of a lot more for. Do I whine and moan when I have to knock off money from a proposal because some consultant's firm or web services provider undercuts me, and try to force out their competition? No; I either lower my prices, improve my offerings, or back out.
So before you jump on an arrogant soapbox and rally against someone you don't know, try to understand the actual point of my statements, instead of projecting your agendas on my words. I'm from a family with immigrants on both sides as recent as four generations from me, and well aware of it. But guess what? They all came here legally, worked hard, and contributed to society. I will never be one to voice against legal immigration. I swear, if I hear the beautiful words of Emma Lazurs' beautiful poem wrongly applied to illegals one more time, I'm going to scream. Give me the huddled masses of people who are here to work hard, build a dream, and participate in this society. America cannot bear the dead weight of illegals and continue to nurture the legal immigrants she loves; she is crumbling and eroding under the pressure as we speak.
We have a system for those who want to come to America and become citizens. It's a great system; it works pretty well.
By the way, my car isn't working, and there's no food in my fridge. My kids keep bothering me about being hungry. What I'm asking is... is it cool if I come over? Never mind, I'll just wait until you're not looking and raid the kitchen. Thanks.
One onerous requirement might be for a patent holder to maintain a credible product in commercial production in order to sue others for royalties.
Add "or be able to substantially prove ready plans in development to do so" to that, and you've got my vote.
This idea of patents being some repository to hold ideas hostage is really detrimental to the technology market. Kudos to Shuttlesworth for pointing out our common enemy.
So... Kent County was prosecuting for something even the owner of the business didn't care about?
From TFA:
"This is the first time that we've actually charged it," Kent County Assistant Prosecutor Lynn Hopkins said, adding that "we'd been hoping to dodge this bullet for a while."
I fly the BS flag. This "bullet" could have been easily dodged, but Kent County wants its free money.
Yes, you're correct, of course. Interpolation is correct. I was being deceptive, and you caught me. Btw, I just recently noticed they've gone to listing the optical resolution now... good deal.
Free health care?
Guess what happens when an illegal immigrant goes to the emergency room. They don't let them die. Guess what happens when they go to the "free clinics" intended for the economically depressed American citizens?
No, my logic states all illegal immigrants are criminals, and should be treated thusly.
I used to think like you. That selling drugs like pot and lsd was a victimless crime. I never sold any of it, but I didn't see a reason to put people like that away for the "victimless crime".
Then I spent a semester sitting next to a woman whose son died from an overdose -- thanks to some drugs he bought from a drug dealer I happened to know.
Is it that boy's fault he died? He took the drugs, so yes, he's responsible. But that doesn't make him not a victim -- a mugger who is shot in a drive-by would be a victim too, wouldn't he?
What you did was illegal, and you knew it was. If you disagree with the laws of the land, and choose to blatantly disregard and violate them while doing nothing to create change, you are a criminal.
Forgive me, I'm not trying to lecture you. It just pains me to see this kind of virulent wrong thinking flowing through our society.
I second your disagreement with the GP about illegals doing better work. This is the sort of P.C. warm feel-good sentiments that spread amongst the populace like a propaganda virus; the idea that illegal immigrants must be diligent industrious folks who have come here to do the jobs no one else will do, and work extra hard for the American Dream. The fact is, they have come here because they know there's free health care, housing and damn near everything else to be had. Are many hard-working? You bet. That doesn't change the fact that they're here, not paying taxes, drawing their benefits off of your paycheck.
The usual claim is that these illegals would really like to become citizens, but the system is too inefficient, difficult, unreasonable, etc. to allow it. Tell me, if you could have nearly all the benefits of being an American citizen without paying taxes, would becoming a tax-paying citizen be your first priority?
For this reason and more, I really hope something like a "no-work" database will be instituted, and not quietly murdered in a back alley in D.C. because of the many potential complications involved. It is high time for all of us to defend the infrastructure of this nation; it's strained, nearly broken back can not hold all this weight forever.
Sources are respectable. My main problem with the Parent was that he expelled an inflammatory, uninformed remark with little behind it.
Prison is a terrible place. But to make it sound like the Justice Dept. is an evil system that does nothing but ruin the lives of poor innocent people is the kind of wild rantings that prevent progress, insight and change.
I had to make sure and reply to this and voice my disagreement with the Fairness Doctrine, and it's insane precepts of controlling free speech in the interests of assuring minority (or even majority) opinions are given a free platform, at the cost of our most precious first amendment rights.
I just had to make sure and do that, you see....I'd hate the parent to get modded down for violating the Fairness Doctrine.
Let's face facts here, the vast majority of prison inmates, people whose lives have been ruined by our justice system, are in there for victimless crimes involving drugs.
Care to back any part of that loaded statement with facts?
Consider it a lot like the people playing the stock market. Some people want to talk the market up, some want to talk it down, some want to talking you into trading (brokers), others would rather scare you away (real estate) all depending on their position. None of them are into charity and free stock advice. Neither is the CEO of a public company out to give you free business predictions.
Wonderfully stated. What is often missed in this, and many similar, circumstances is that talking points, especially the most sensational ones, put out in the tech sector, are really meant to push and shape rather than reflect and idealize.
Keep in mind that this DRM includes not only the encryption algos but also software to monitor files and attempt to determine if they require licensing. Also, there's a fair bit of behind-the-scenes crap in Vista, spying on media files.
Windows = Bloat. Sorry MSFT fans; it's just true.
I completely agree when it comes to Vista. I have been challenging every Vista fan I come across to convince me that there's something really new, useful and innovative in Vista that can't be easily done in Windows XP, or more importantly, hasn't already been done by Linux and Mac OS X.
The bloat from the DRM, RIAA-pleasing crap alone makes me wretch.
Part of the objective in a new OS release is to take advantage of new technologies and capabilities of modern hardware. How efficiently this is done by any particular vendor is a whole other subject.
Apple has long had the inherent advantage of lording over the hardware, thus assuring that, while you might need a new system for the next major version change, EVERYONE'S new system would be optimized for the software.
If you're looking for feature-rich operating system power with a decreased draw on system resources, Windows simply isn't for you. As the grandparent stated, performance hasn't been an issue for most users. But then again, most users are simply buying a new computer for Vista, OS X, etc.
You would likely have to turn towards an OS lower on the visual effects scale (such as a Linux distribution with XFCE or Fluxbox), as that is what really eats up the resources with the newer operating systems.
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Sure there is: it's a free market, and they paid for them. I hate domain squatting as much as the next guy. I agree with the Parent; it's more like patent warehousing than real estate investments. But granted that, they're still legal. Which, as another poster so eloquently stated, does not make them not scumbags. I'm not so sure there's an effective way to legislate this issue in a way that doesn't significantly impact other rights which need to be protected.
Parent wasn't trolling; he made a very valid point. Google made the tool, Dell configured the machine. Dell turned the software to spyware. Google has, AFAIK, no under-the-radar delivery system for any of their software, including the URL redirection tools they've made (there's a few). However, system configurators like Dell have been doing this crap for years. Our sniper's scope should be aimed towards Round Rock, not Mountain View.
Being an American citizen makes me deserve the rights of an American citizen more than someone who is not an American citizen, yes. Is that difficult to understand?
I don't belive in "arbitrarily high wages for relatively unskilled jobs". Sorry, you guessed wrongly; I do not belong to or support any union. I work my ass off and frankly, get paid less to do many jobs that persons/companies in my field get a hell of a lot more for. Do I whine and moan when I have to knock off money from a proposal because some consultant's firm or web services provider undercuts me, and try to force out their competition? No; I either lower my prices, improve my offerings, or back out.
So before you jump on an arrogant soapbox and rally against someone you don't know, try to understand the actual point of my statements, instead of projecting your agendas on my words. I'm from a family with immigrants on both sides as recent as four generations from me, and well aware of it. But guess what? They all came here legally, worked hard, and contributed to society. I will never be one to voice against legal immigration. I swear, if I hear the beautiful words of Emma Lazurs' beautiful poem wrongly applied to illegals one more time, I'm going to scream. Give me the huddled masses of people who are here to work hard, build a dream, and participate in this society. America cannot bear the dead weight of illegals and continue to nurture the legal immigrants she loves; she is crumbling and eroding under the pressure as we speak.
We have a system for those who want to come to America and become citizens. It's a great system; it works pretty well. By the way, my car isn't working, and there's no food in my fridge. My kids keep bothering me about being hungry. What I'm asking is... is it cool if I come over? Never mind, I'll just wait until you're not looking and raid the kitchen. Thanks.
One onerous requirement might be for a patent holder to maintain a credible product in commercial production in order to sue others for royalties. Add "or be able to substantially prove ready plans in development to do so" to that, and you've got my vote. This idea of patents being some repository to hold ideas hostage is really detrimental to the technology market. Kudos to Shuttlesworth for pointing out our common enemy.
Screenshot of FF2 running perfectly on Windows 98 please?
So... Kent County was prosecuting for something even the owner of the business didn't care about? From TFA: "This is the first time that we've actually charged it," Kent County Assistant Prosecutor Lynn Hopkins said, adding that "we'd been hoping to dodge this bullet for a while." I fly the BS flag. This "bullet" could have been easily dodged, but Kent County wants its free money.
And my logic is that I don't want someone having the same rights as me as a citizen who doesn't deserve it.
Yes, you're correct, of course. Interpolation is correct. I was being deceptive, and you caught me. Btw, I just recently noticed they've gone to listing the optical resolution now... good deal.
Free health care? Guess what happens when an illegal immigrant goes to the emergency room. They don't let them die. Guess what happens when they go to the "free clinics" intended for the economically depressed American citizens? No, my logic states all illegal immigrants are criminals, and should be treated thusly.
So, do we sue HP, Cannon, Brother, Epson, etc. next for selling us scanners that scan at "2400x2400", when they really only do so through dithering?
I used to think like you. That selling drugs like pot and lsd was a victimless crime. I never sold any of it, but I didn't see a reason to put people like that away for the "victimless crime". Then I spent a semester sitting next to a woman whose son died from an overdose -- thanks to some drugs he bought from a drug dealer I happened to know. Is it that boy's fault he died? He took the drugs, so yes, he's responsible. But that doesn't make him not a victim -- a mugger who is shot in a drive-by would be a victim too, wouldn't he? What you did was illegal, and you knew it was. If you disagree with the laws of the land, and choose to blatantly disregard and violate them while doing nothing to create change, you are a criminal. Forgive me, I'm not trying to lecture you. It just pains me to see this kind of virulent wrong thinking flowing through our society.
I second your disagreement with the GP about illegals doing better work. This is the sort of P.C. warm feel-good sentiments that spread amongst the populace like a propaganda virus; the idea that illegal immigrants must be diligent industrious folks who have come here to do the jobs no one else will do, and work extra hard for the American Dream. The fact is, they have come here because they know there's free health care, housing and damn near everything else to be had. Are many hard-working? You bet. That doesn't change the fact that they're here, not paying taxes, drawing their benefits off of your paycheck. The usual claim is that these illegals would really like to become citizens, but the system is too inefficient, difficult, unreasonable, etc. to allow it. Tell me, if you could have nearly all the benefits of being an American citizen without paying taxes, would becoming a tax-paying citizen be your first priority? For this reason and more, I really hope something like a "no-work" database will be instituted, and not quietly murdered in a back alley in D.C. because of the many potential complications involved. It is high time for all of us to defend the infrastructure of this nation; it's strained, nearly broken back can not hold all this weight forever.
Given what the GP was about, I'd say it had something to do with drug use. But yes, I'm interested too.
Sources are respectable. My main problem with the Parent was that he expelled an inflammatory, uninformed remark with little behind it. Prison is a terrible place. But to make it sound like the Justice Dept. is an evil system that does nothing but ruin the lives of poor innocent people is the kind of wild rantings that prevent progress, insight and change.
I had to make sure and reply to this and voice my disagreement with the Fairness Doctrine, and it's insane precepts of controlling free speech in the interests of assuring minority (or even majority) opinions are given a free platform, at the cost of our most precious first amendment rights. I just had to make sure and do that, you see. ...I'd hate the parent to get modded down for violating the Fairness Doctrine.
Yes, they are.
Let's face facts here, the vast majority of prison inmates, people whose lives have been ruined by our justice system, are in there for victimless crimes involving drugs. Care to back any part of that loaded statement with facts?
Consider it a lot like the people playing the stock market. Some people want to talk the market up, some want to talk it down, some want to talking you into trading (brokers), others would rather scare you away (real estate) all depending on their position. None of them are into charity and free stock advice. Neither is the CEO of a public company out to give you free business predictions. Wonderfully stated. What is often missed in this, and many similar, circumstances is that talking points, especially the most sensational ones, put out in the tech sector, are really meant to push and shape rather than reflect and idealize.
Why is parent offtopic? It applies to TFA...
Keep in mind that this DRM includes not only the encryption algos but also software to monitor files and attempt to determine if they require licensing. Also, there's a fair bit of behind-the-scenes crap in Vista, spying on media files. Windows = Bloat. Sorry MSFT fans; it's just true.
I completely agree when it comes to Vista. I have been challenging every Vista fan I come across to convince me that there's something really new, useful and innovative in Vista that can't be easily done in Windows XP, or more importantly, hasn't already been done by Linux and Mac OS X. The bloat from the DRM, RIAA-pleasing crap alone makes me wretch.
Part of the objective in a new OS release is to take advantage of new technologies and capabilities of modern hardware. How efficiently this is done by any particular vendor is a whole other subject. Apple has long had the inherent advantage of lording over the hardware, thus assuring that, while you might need a new system for the next major version change, EVERYONE'S new system would be optimized for the software. If you're looking for feature-rich operating system power with a decreased draw on system resources, Windows simply isn't for you. As the grandparent stated, performance hasn't been an issue for most users. But then again, most users are simply buying a new computer for Vista, OS X, etc. You would likely have to turn towards an OS lower on the visual effects scale (such as a Linux distribution with XFCE or Fluxbox), as that is what really eats up the resources with the newer operating systems.
They're all Unix/GNU Linux Editors, Ithika! kedit now? But seriously, enough guys. less puns about most unix text tools would make all of us more happy.