And no, docking stations are not the solution. They just cause more problems that they are worth. What I think we really need is a Mac Mini type of machine that can be docked onto a laptop frame.
Docking stations aren't the solution, what we need is a Mac with a dock? I thought they weren't the solution?
I've used a docking station in the past. Worked fine. What do you have against them?
I think you need to step away from the game console for a little bit...
Try playing a game of Warcraft where only *you* have FOW turned on. This is what it would be like if a government keeps no secrets.
Some things do need to be secret. Determining what is keep secret is the difficult part, and unfortunately the part we have to trust our elected officials to make.::shudder::
Also, stop using the old "security-through-obscurity" argument. It's out of place and you don't seem to know what it really means. The government and military have been keeping a *lot* of things secret with this method (at least as secret as they need). They're very good at it. Loose lips sink ships and all...
You'd be amazed what some monkeys wearing ties can (and will) do with Access. And how many people will be willing to run part of their business on such an app.
Well, that's rather what happens. I actually had an.ebuild that required rpm to be installed. I forget what it was, but that's when I found out that rpm exists for Gentoo.
I believe the.ebuild downloaded a.rpm and used rpm to extract files from it or something. *shrug*
Look hard enough and you'll find some similarities between Ghandi and Hitler. That's not my point really though. The question is to whether it's a *reasonable* comparison.
And as much as you may dislike Bush, he's no Hitler. Not even *close* by a longshot. No "night of the long knives." No declaring himself dictator. No conquest of Europe (or North America would be more appropriate from the US). No Genocide. No Fascism. Etc.
What? He favors policies that support companies? Wow. That compares with putting people in trains to be brought to gas chambers...
That doesn't mean no full-disclosure. That means delayed full-disclosure.
Reading his quote from LKML: But it should be very clear that no entity (neither the reporter nor any
particular vendor/developer) can require silence, or ask for anything more
than "let's find the right solution". A purely _technical_ delay, in other
words, with no politics or other issues involved.
Well, so long as it's non-trivial to bypass, it will stop the problem of "I got shot with my own gun by an intruder" or "my kid shot his friend when they got into my sock drawer."
Sounds like it's an extra "saftey." Though if it's anything like "child-proof caps" it'll have the opposite result...
(a) because software is ultimately mathematics (algorithms), whereas
literature is art;
(b) you were talking about *publication* costs - not about the content
alone.
Point (a) is very debatable. If I rename "foo.cc" to "foo.txt" does it
become art?
Yes I think we're getting to the nub. Of course many questions arise...
such as: how do you quantify risk?
In my mind that's in the eye of the beholder, so to speak. I leave that
decision to the person making the decision. Chances are they're best
informed about what they wish to do (current company status, market demand
for their product, what they wish to achieve, etc). If they decide that it's too risky, I'll accept
it. Just my $0.02.
How do you quantify things such as 'peace of mind' (or 'smug hippy
bastard quotient' if you prefer)?
*rofl*
Purely pragmatically, it's pretty certain that there will be more Linux
around in five years time than there is now. Getting familiar with the
platform and tools now will give you a head start!
Perhaps I've slightly misrepresented myself here... I've been running
Linux at home for nearly 8 years now as my primary computer. And on
several servers since. I've written some open source (small apps to
scratch an itch mostly), though my professional work isn't truly "Free" (consultant -
client owns my code).
I love what FSW has done, and I'd love to see it continue.
My original post was responding to something like "how can closed source
developers sleep at night?" I rather understand the proprietary folks, and
I don't quite see the same "moral issue" as some FSW people do. To me it's
simply that FSW has been nicer to work with, and easier to get help with.
I see it surviving on technical merits rather than moral merits.
And yes, I'll agree that my FSW companies have a harder time hypothesis is
debatable, and testable. Time will tell.
What the hell are you talking about? You prefer to just say "thanks for proving my point" without any explaination? What the hell do you mean? The story is about CBS's forged documents. Where is the sleight of hand?
CBS airing forged documents is "rhetorical sleight-of-hand"?
Don't look now, but you're dangerously close to becoming an apologist for CBS... They screwed up. They've admitted it. The real tragedy here is that Dan Rather isn't also being punished as well. He gets special treatment for being a "name."
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And no, docking stations are not the solution. They just cause more problems that they are worth. What I think we really need is a Mac Mini type of machine that can be docked onto a laptop frame.
Docking stations aren't the solution, what we need is a Mac with a dock? I thought they weren't the solution?
I've used a docking station in the past. Worked fine. What do you have against them?
I think you need to step away from the game console for a little bit...
::shudder::
Try playing a game of Warcraft where only *you* have FOW turned on. This is what it would be like if a government keeps no secrets.
Some things do need to be secret. Determining what is keep secret is the difficult part, and unfortunately the part we have to trust our elected officials to make.
Also, stop using the old "security-through-obscurity" argument. It's out of place and you don't seem to know what it really means. The government and military have been keeping a *lot* of things secret with this method (at least as secret as they need). They're very good at it. Loose lips sink ships and all...
It would, after all, be their own fault, for failing to save properly for old age.
As a matter of fact, it would. Who's fault do you think it is?
Better? Yes. Easier? Not by a long shot.
::shudder::
You'd be amazed what some monkeys wearing ties can (and will) do with Access. And how many people will be willing to run part of their business on such an app.
You care to point out where I used the word "selfish"?
Hence everything is evil because somebody somewhere benefits from every action.
Altruism is a myth. Take what you can get, and nevermind the reasons.
Well, that's rather what happens. I actually had an .ebuild that required rpm to be installed. I forget what it was, but that's when I found out that rpm exists for Gentoo.
.ebuild downloaded a .rpm and used rpm to extract files from it or something. *shrug*
I believe the
Debian has "alien" I believe. And gentoo users can "emerge rpm" if necessary.
Half of your problems have nothing to do with the RPM *format* and everything to do with RedHat's "rpm" command implementation.
Look hard enough and you'll find some similarities between Ghandi and Hitler. That's not my point really though. The question is to whether it's a *reasonable* comparison.
And as much as you may dislike Bush, he's no Hitler. Not even *close* by a longshot. No "night of the long knives." No declaring himself dictator. No conquest of Europe (or North America would be more appropriate from the US). No Genocide. No Fascism. Etc.
What? He favors policies that support companies? Wow. That compares with putting people in trains to be brought to gas chambers...
Americans vote for the morons that lead them?
Hopefully you're being sarcastic. But if you can't see the difference between Stalin, Hitler, and Bush, then you've got issues.
That doesn't mean no full-disclosure. That means delayed full-disclosure.
Reading his quote from LKML:
But it should be very clear that no entity (neither the reporter nor any particular vendor/developer) can require silence, or ask for anything more than "let's find the right solution". A purely _technical_ delay, in other words, with no politics or other issues involved.
just listen in on Xbox live sometime.
I don't know about politics. But there *is* a lot of discussion over who's "gay" or not.
Hey hey, that's dangerous talk around Hollywood. It's much cheaper, and easier, to milk previous successes for more money.
I'm wating for "Wargames 2" next.
I *believe* he's referring to the government. Not all criminals are in back alleys. Some are elected.
Well, so long as it's non-trivial to bypass, it will stop the problem of "I got shot with my own gun by an intruder" or "my kid shot his friend when they got into my sock drawer."
Sounds like it's an extra "saftey." Though if it's anything like "child-proof caps" it'll have the opposite result...
Ahhh, slashdot. Where you can argue the definition of the word "theft" for *hours*.
(a) because software is ultimately mathematics (algorithms), whereas literature is art;
(b) you were talking about *publication* costs - not about the content alone.
Point (a) is very debatable. If I rename "foo.cc" to "foo.txt" does it become art?
Yes I think we're getting to the nub. Of course many questions arise... such as: how do you quantify risk?
In my mind that's in the eye of the beholder, so to speak. I leave that decision to the person making the decision. Chances are they're best informed about what they wish to do (current company status, market demand for their product, what they wish to achieve, etc). If they decide that it's too risky, I'll accept it. Just my $0.02.
How do you quantify things such as 'peace of mind' (or 'smug hippy bastard quotient' if you prefer)?
*rofl*
Purely pragmatically, it's pretty certain that there will be more Linux around in five years time than there is now. Getting familiar with the platform and tools now will give you a head start!
Perhaps I've slightly misrepresented myself here... I've been running Linux at home for nearly 8 years now as my primary computer. And on several servers since. I've written some open source (small apps to scratch an itch mostly), though my professional work isn't truly "Free" (consultant - client owns my code).
I love what FSW has done, and I'd love to see it continue.
My original post was responding to something like "how can closed source developers sleep at night?" I rather understand the proprietary folks, and I don't quite see the same "moral issue" as some FSW people do. To me it's simply that FSW has been nicer to work with, and easier to get help with. I see it surviving on technical merits rather than moral merits.
And yes, I'll agree that my FSW companies have a harder time hypothesis is debatable, and testable. Time will tell.
Good conversation. Thanks!
Well, it sounds like a time to renew the debate as to whether there are any truly altruistic acts.
Let me save you the debate. No, there aren't.
That doesn't mean this is a bad thing though.
Ahhh, okay. I believe you're correct. I didn't see that.
Thanks for the explaination! Wonder why he couldn't have done that.
What the hell are you talking about? You prefer to just say "thanks for proving my point" without any explaination? What the hell do you mean? The story is about CBS's forged documents. Where is the sleight of hand?
CBS airing forged documents is "rhetorical sleight-of-hand"?
Don't look now, but you're dangerously close to becoming an apologist for CBS... They screwed up. They've admitted it. The real tragedy here is that Dan Rather isn't also being punished as well. He gets special treatment for being a "name."
Therefore... It *IS* the United States' fault! Wow, it's like 3 degrees from blaming the US!
*rofl*
Your post combined with your sig is a riot. I suppose the "liberal left" is always gloriously correct, even when spectacularly wrong?
Does the DMCA apply in France? Wow, I learn something new every day!