1. Does it matter for Joe Sixpack how much time does XP take to install if Joe Sixpack doesn't do the install himself?
runs that software
2. If Joe Sixpack uses Internet Exporer because he doesn't know there is another browser, why should he care about using Firefox instead? Same could be said for the rest.
doesn't crash much, and with newer security measures is unlikely to get infected.
3. With the right drivers you mean. But Joe Sixpack didn't install Windows so he doesn't care about that does he?;)
and with newer security measures is unlikely to get infected.
4. I would be surprised to learn about netbooks shipping with SP3. If they aren't then they are unlikely to get infected if 'getting infected' means the stock Norton antivirus tells you so.
For Linux to compete, it should aim at producing distributions that support as much hardware as XP, have similar friendly installations, and possibly -- dear god did I say it -- run XP software, because win32 is the biggest software base in the world and it's what users want.
5. Ubuntu 7.10 supported my computer's driver infinitely better than the stock Windows XP version. I had to download the drivers using Ubuntu and move them onto the Windows partition.
It could be me, but those banners and those 'sponsored links' on torrent sites about file sharing on USENET make the whole affair sound very very pesky.
1. Install program xyz 2. Uninstall program xyz 3. (optional) Purge program xyz 4. Notice the folder ~/.xyz is still there, with your preferences and maybe temporary files.
And yes, adding lines of code that are never used does take some time and resources. Just to mention one, the OS still needs to read the extra lines of code from disk (which is pretty slow in comparison to execution) and to store them in memory.
Are you sure it isn't just an application going rogue and allocating all the memory? When that happens the kernel goes Out Of Memory, which is pretty painful with swap enabled and less so without any swap. The hang on my machine takes 5 mins in the latter case and more than 20 in the former.
In practice: if you plan to do heavy sessions of Firefox and Flash on Linux, maybe while keeping Evince or Miro open, do put the System Monitor applet in one of your panels and do keep an eye on the Memory graph. Once the graph is all but the top two pixels coloured in a deep shade of green, it's high time you close stuff. If there's only one pixel rush to save everything; if you don't have anything unsaved and just Firefox running just Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and save yourself the hang.
If you want to go the terminal way use 'killall processnamehere', e.g. 'killall firefox'.
If you don't know what to kill, use 'top'. While in top, look for the offensive application. See the number in the first column? Press 'k' and type that number to kill it. Now look at the end of the first line when you see the three "load average:" numbers. If you killed the right process you should see the first number go slowly down after a few seconds. Grats!
So yes, I have far too much experience of OOMs for being in my first year of using Linux.
The point is not about the cost, the point is about this mythical 5% group of cancer/hackers/sharers/etc. who are at fault of everything that's wrong with internet. They are killing the music industry, They are killing the films industry, They are killing the videogame industry, They shamelessly copy copyrighted content to their computers, They disrupting the ad industry with filthy plugins, They do not contribute to the OOS movements, and they are the cancer who is killing random boards on weird websites.
Experienced users are indeed more likely to prefer the Windows option -- as long as they are experienced as in they have Windows experience.
And Windows users who try to use their existing skills and habits generally also find themselves having many issues. In fact, Windows "Power Users" frequently have more problems with Linux than people with little or no computer experience, for this very reason. Typically, the most vehement "Linux is not ready for the desktop yet" arguments come from ingrained Windows users who reason that if they couldn't make the switch, a less-experienced user has no chance. But this is the exact opposite of the truth.
And then that'll become illegal too, with helicopter checks and radio scans of unauthorised wireless access points will send cops straight to your home.
Those nasty radations pose an unacceptable threat to the health of our children!
I have used Windows 95 and 98 for a total four years. I agree you just cannot hit Ctrl-Alt-Del inadvertently. Even if that happened, it would usually bring up a mostly harmless "End application" screen and suspend all running tasks.
But: when would you use that key combination? When something goes wrong, obviously; usually it's an application going wild hanging up the system. If you are lucky Ctrl-Alt-Del will just pop up the dialog and let your hardware breathe a bit. If you are less lucky a blue screen or two will appear:
"WARNING The OS is unstable, press a key to continue, press Ctrl-Alt-Del again to reboot".
Applications are not forced to use Trident, but some do.
I stand corrected as regards IE being part of the Windows Kernel; it still remains part of the Windows Core. Can you fully totally completely remove Internet Explorer from, say, Windows XP?
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1. Does it matter for Joe Sixpack how much time does XP take to install if Joe Sixpack doesn't do the install himself?
runs that software
2. If Joe Sixpack uses Internet Exporer because he doesn't know there is another browser, why should he care about using Firefox instead? Same could be said for the rest.
doesn't crash much, and with newer security measures is unlikely to get infected.
3. With the right drivers you mean. But Joe Sixpack didn't install Windows so he doesn't care about that does he? ;)
and with newer security measures is unlikely to get infected.
4. I would be surprised to learn about netbooks shipping with SP3. If they aren't then they are unlikely to get infected if 'getting infected' means the stock Norton antivirus tells you so.
For Linux to compete, it should aim at producing distributions that support as much hardware as XP, have similar friendly installations, and possibly -- dear god did I say it -- run XP software, because win32 is the biggest software base in the world and it's what users want.
5. Ubuntu 7.10 supported my computer's driver infinitely better than the stock Windows XP version. I had to download the drivers using Ubuntu and move them onto the Windows partition.
6. The setup is as friendly if not friendlier.
7. Wine anybody?
8. Have you actually tried Ubuntu 8.04?
Linux is not GNU. GNU is not Ubuntu. Ubuntu is not Linux.
Better luck next time.
It could be me, but those banners and those 'sponsored links' on torrent sites about file sharing on USENET make the whole affair sound very very pesky.
GUI way to do that:
System > Administrator > Software Sources.
From the drop down box make your choice. "Other..." has a "Select Best Server" tool.
For example:
1. Install program xyz
2. Uninstall program xyz
3. (optional) Purge program xyz
4. Notice the folder ~/.xyz is still there, with your preferences and maybe temporary files.
I'd rather not have to use Wine to p2p, thank you very much.
Hate to break it to you, but typing ~ or ` on an Italian keyboard (with the Windows key set) require Alt+asciicode. That's much worse ;)
(On Ubuntu it's AltGr-í and AltGr-' respectively.)
But have you loaded it from its floppy disk?
Why bother adding features that nobody ever uses?
And yes, adding lines of code that are never used does take some time and resources. Just to mention one, the OS still needs to read the extra lines of code from disk (which is pretty slow in comparison to execution) and to store them in memory.
The website is currently up just fine.
The easy fix is under your Options button, "Comment Post Mode" combobox.
The desktop versions of mainstream browsers nowadays have memory consumption in roughly the same order of magnitude.
Also consider that browsing on a as-smart-as-it-can-be device will still be lighter than browsing on a full blown computer.
You don't even need tabs to get that piece of information you need off the net, log out and move along.
Are you sure it isn't just an application going rogue and allocating all the memory? When that happens the kernel goes Out Of Memory, which is pretty painful with swap enabled and less so without any swap. The hang on my machine takes 5 mins in the latter case and more than 20 in the former.
In practice: if you plan to do heavy sessions of Firefox and Flash on Linux, maybe while keeping Evince or Miro open, do put the System Monitor applet in one of your panels and do keep an eye on the Memory graph. Once the graph is all but the top two pixels coloured in a deep shade of green, it's high time you close stuff. If there's only one pixel rush to save everything; if you don't have anything unsaved and just Firefox running just Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and save yourself the hang.
If you want to go the terminal way use 'killall processnamehere', e.g. 'killall firefox'.
If you don't know what to kill, use 'top'. While in top, look for the offensive application. See the number in the first column? Press 'k' and type that number to kill it. Now look at the end of the first line when you see the three "load average:" numbers. If you killed the right process you should see the first number go slowly down after a few seconds. Grats!
So yes, I have far too much experience of OOMs for being in my first year of using Linux.
The point is not about the cost, the point is about this mythical 5% group of cancer/hackers/sharers/etc. who are at fault of everything that's wrong with internet. They are killing the music industry, They are killing the films industry, They are killing the videogame industry, They shamelessly copy copyrighted content to their computers, They disrupting the ad industry with filthy plugins, They do not contribute to the OOS movements, and they are the cancer who is killing random boards on weird websites.
It's always Them.
Experienced users are indeed more likely to prefer the Windows option -- as long as they are experienced as in they have Windows experience.
And Windows users who try to use their existing skills and habits generally also find themselves having many issues. In fact, Windows "Power Users" frequently have more problems with Linux than people with little or no computer experience, for this very reason. Typically, the most vehement "Linux is not ready for the desktop yet" arguments come from ingrained Windows users who reason that if they couldn't make the switch, a less-experienced user has no chance. But this is the exact opposite of the truth.
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
Of course as just as I post that Silverlight crashes Firefox.
Oh, the humanity.
Rai (Italian TV) uses it for the Olympic broadcasting. It's a good experience.
And how many seats do they currently hold in the parliament?
You're really beating the wrong cat. ;)
Had you said, "Mussolini's *daughter* is in politics", you would have been correct.
I can confirm the above.
And then that'll become illegal too, with helicopter checks and radio scans of unauthorised wireless access points will send cops straight to your home.
Those nasty radations pose an unacceptable threat to the health of our children!
Think of the children!
THINK OF THE GREATER GOOD!
What about the twenteens, you insensitive clod!
Let me clarify.
I have used Windows 95 and 98 for a total four years. I agree you just cannot hit Ctrl-Alt-Del inadvertently. Even if that happened, it would usually bring up a mostly harmless "End application" screen and suspend all running tasks.
But: when would you use that key combination? When something goes wrong, obviously; usually it's an application going wild hanging up the system. If you are lucky Ctrl-Alt-Del will just pop up the dialog and let your hardware breathe a bit. If you are less lucky a blue screen or two will appear:
"WARNING The OS is unstable, press a key to continue, press Ctrl-Alt-Del again to reboot".
This is what I referred to.
They are not related in any way.
Applications are not forced to use Trident, but some do.
I stand corrected as regards IE being part of the Windows Kernel; it still remains part of the Windows Core. Can you fully totally completely remove Internet Explorer from, say, Windows XP?